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baja
11-20-2012, 09:50 AM
Poll

BowlenBall
11-20-2012, 09:51 AM
In before poll choices appear....

bronco militia
11-20-2012, 09:51 AM
...fumble and get hurt

2KBack
11-20-2012, 09:54 AM
...fumble and get hurt

So you think he will play just like Willis?

srphoenix
11-20-2012, 09:55 AM
I think he'll be less effective than McGahee was but generally fill that same role if he ends up as the starter.

Given that Hillman was given the ball 3 straight carries at the end of the last game tells me he will be the starter next week and I think he's going to have a great game.

Pick Six
11-20-2012, 09:59 AM
They'll have to respect Manning, and Knowshon will have a monster game...

dictionary
11-20-2012, 10:02 AM
They'll have to respect Manning, and Knowshon will have a monster game...

This is pretty much what I think will happen. I think Hillman and Moreno will both have great games.

v2micca
11-20-2012, 10:04 AM
You left out the option,

Continually run into his own lineman until he takes one of them out for the game.

Drunken.Broncoholic
11-20-2012, 10:06 AM
It think Manning will throw over 300 yards with multiple scores, While Von has another monster game. Resulting in the run game being just a fraction of the reason they get a win.

BowlenBall
11-20-2012, 10:06 AM
A quote from Moreno this week:

“(Sitting out the past eight weeks has been) tough,” said Moreno. ”You just want to go out there and help your team win. I took the approach where I was helping my team win in practice, doing any type of special-teams or scout team work that I needed to do to help the team win. That’s the approach I was taking.”

“You just never know when your chance is going to be. When your chances do come, you’ve got to make the most of those and go about it the right way. I think that’s where I was.”

Gotta love the positive attitude. I was pretty down on Moreno in the first few weeks of the year, but I'm definitely rooting for him to have a break-out game this week.

bronco militia
11-20-2012, 10:08 AM
So you think he will play just like Willis?

sure, but Willis doesn't dance around like a ballerina

Play2win
11-20-2012, 10:09 AM
Run faster to the sidelines after a score, so he can celebrate, than he ever does actually on the field, especially between the tackles.

Play2win
11-20-2012, 10:10 AM
Seriously though, hopefully he can make some big plays in the screen game.

2KBack
11-20-2012, 10:12 AM
sure, but Willis doesn't dance around like a ballerina

Those are useful skills dammit....he just needs to use them 15 yards downfield instead

bronco militia
11-20-2012, 10:18 AM
Those are useful skills dammit....he just needs to use them 15 yards downfield instead

^5

just remember, those skills don't appear until we are down a few scores

huh??
11-20-2012, 10:23 AM
I'm really hoping he goes "all crazy legs" and does really well. It would be great if he becomes the 'back everyone was expecting. Someone posted a highlight clip in another thread that was pretty cool. It showed how he is capable of good vision and can stop/start on a dime to make tacklers miss and get some extra yards (even a TD on one of those plays). That may have shown ALL of his good runs, but if he can be more consistent, it will be fun to watch. It's too bad that I mainly remember him dancing around in the backfield and getting tackled for a loss.

Kaylore
11-20-2012, 10:26 AM
I expect the usual tap-dancing, jazz hands. Then he'll break a big run, it'll look like a score, and someone will punch the ball out from behind and he'll roll an ankle. Then at after the break we'll see him getting a massage and he'll fall off the massage table.

Tip: It's far less frustrating to watch Moreno play football if you imagine the Benny Hill theme in your head whenever he <s>gets the ball</s> does anything.

Br0nc0Buster
11-20-2012, 10:29 AM
For whatever reason he seems to have success against KC

I am sure he will have a good game
I would like to see us to run it down their throats all game
Not to take a team lightly, but I think this would be a good game to try and establish a physical running game to build on for the future

Beantown Bronco
11-20-2012, 10:36 AM
As much as I'd like to think he'll have a monster game, I just don't see him getting enough touches to make it happen. This is his first game back....and while he's technically been practicing every day as if he's going to play each Sunday, he hasn't actually played in games, so I assume they'll break him in a little slowly.

I'm thinking 10 or so carries. 5 or so targets in the passing game. 70+ combined yards, protect the ball and maybe get a TD. That would be plenty. Certainly good enough, but not a "monster game."

TheElusiveKyleOrton
11-20-2012, 10:38 AM
Platoon with the other backs on the roster to do just enough to get Manning over 300 yards and three touchdowns.

broncocalijohn
11-20-2012, 10:40 AM
He will look good because of the garbage stats. Basically garbage stats start at kickoff versus the Chiefs. I think he should play to see if there is anything worth keeping on the roster. If he plays, he will have 3 catches for 37 yards, 5 runs for 23 yards. Good productive numbers. He won't have enough chances to fumble. Oh, ground causes fumble will be one thing that will happen to him.
Only way he gets more carries is if Ball is ineffective.

baja
11-20-2012, 10:49 AM
I expect the usual tap-dancing, jazz hands. Then he'll break a big run, it'll look like a score, and someone will punch the ball out from behind and he'll roll an ankle. Then at after the break we'll see him getting a massage and he'll fall off the massage table.

Tip: It's far less frustrating to watch Moreno play football if you imagine the Benny Hill theme in your head whenever he <s>gets the ball</s> does anything.

As I see it his problem has always been he tries to make too much happen. If he could learn to let the game come to him I think he could be great. I just hope he doesn't fall into his habit of trying to hard given he knows he is running out of chances. Too bad Bobby Turner left he could have really helped Morano a lot especially in the mental part of the position.

DBroncos4life
11-20-2012, 11:18 AM
As I see it his problem has always been he tries to make too much happen. If he could learn to let the game come to him I think he could be great. I just hope he doesn't fall into his habit of trying to hard given he knows he is running out of chances. Too bad Bobby Turner left he could have really helped Morano a lot especially in the mental part of the position.

Stud has had his hand in developing some fine backs himself. Tiki Barber, McGahee, Lynch and Fred Jackson all rushed for 1000 yards under Studs before he coached at Denver.

baja
11-20-2012, 11:21 AM
Stud has had his hand in developing some fine backs himself. Tiki Barber, McGahee, Lynch and Fred Jackson all rushed for 1000 yards under Studs before he coached at Denver.

That's true but Turner seems to get their head right at least that is what I have read somewhere. Maybe fwf told me. ;D

bronco militia
11-20-2012, 11:23 AM
That's true but Turner seems to get their head right at least that is what I have read somewhere. Maybe fwf told me. ;D

he couldn't fix Tinker Bell

baja
11-20-2012, 11:24 AM
So far 60.54% of the poll respondents says he will be good to great if he plays in KC.

baja
11-20-2012, 11:27 AM
he couldn't fix Tinker Bell

Or that third round pick of Shanny's Maurice Clarett.

DBroncos4life
11-20-2012, 11:28 AM
That's true but Turner seems to get their head right at least that is what I have read somewhere. Maybe fwf told me. ;D

Sometimes you can't fix suck. I would rather see Moreno then Ball though.

bronco militia
11-20-2012, 11:32 AM
Or that third round pick of Shanny's Maurice Clarett.

hell, that clown didn't even get a carry in the pre-season

baja
11-20-2012, 11:34 AM
hell, that clown didn't even get a carry in the pre-season

That was another "He hasn't been coached by ME" pick in the third round


If Shanny wasn't so arrogant to think if other teams knew the Mastermind was interested and steal him away and actually had a conversation with Clarett he would have never wasted the pick

Drunken.Broncoholic
11-20-2012, 11:35 AM
If the RBs don't fumble once this game it's a success no matter how many yards they get.

2KBack
11-20-2012, 11:39 AM
If the RBs don't fumble once this game it's a success no matter how many yards they get.

Ain't that the sad goddamn truth. 8 Fumbles by RB's in 10 games

razorwire77
11-20-2012, 12:06 PM
A quote from Moreno this week:

“(Sitting out the past eight weeks has been) tough,” said Moreno. ”You just want to go out there and help your team win. I took the approach where I was helping my team win in practice, doing any type of special-teams or scout team work that I needed to do to help the team win. That’s the approach I was taking.”

“You just never know when your chance is going to be. When your chances do come, you’ve got to make the most of those and go about it the right way. I think that’s where I was.”

Gotta love the positive attitude. I was pretty down on Moreno in the first few weeks of the year, but I'm definitely rooting for him to have a break-out game this week.
And honestly, I believe him to be genuine. From the sidelines, Moreno (in street clothes) is always one of the first guys to chest bump or high-five a teammate after a big run. Honestly, I was rooting for them to cut the guy during preseason, but now I really hope that he shows us something. He's going to get his chances. Ball sucks and you're not going to give a 21-year-old 185 pound back like Hillman 20 carries.

Broncomutt
11-20-2012, 12:23 PM
Where's the option for: Run to the sideline holding his left shoe in his right hand?

There is a dearth of choices in this poll.

Dr. Broncenstein
11-20-2012, 12:25 PM
If only history could be used to predict the future.

Rohirrim
11-20-2012, 12:28 PM
I'm going with "monster" game.

But I'm an optimist. ;D

ColoradoDarin
11-20-2012, 12:35 PM
If only history could be used to predict the future.

Exactly. Which is why I answered monster game:

2009 - @KC 21/85 2 TDs Rushing - 0/0 Receiving
2009 - KC 14/50 2 TDs - 3/38
2010 - KC 22/106 - 3/50 1 TD
2010 - @KC 23/161 - 1/14
2011 - @KC 4/52 - 0/0 (blew out his knee that game)

Even if you think Knowshon sucks, he owns the Chiefs. Over 550 combined yards and 5 TDs in 5 games.

ZONA
11-20-2012, 12:40 PM
My answer would be ???

I have no clue how Moreno would perform. He's been inactive for 9 weeks. I'm sure he's fresh but hasn't seen live bullets in awhile. Sometimes he looks pretty good, sometimes he dances too much and does nothing. I do know that there is no way Hillman can run between the tackles on a consistent basis. Moreno does make the most sense right now. He's also very decent at picking up the blitz. So I think he's active this week and gets 10 touches and maybe 16 plays. He is a much better option for pass plays where he will be blocking then Hillman. Hillman just doesn't have the size and strength to pick up blitz.

lonestar
11-20-2012, 12:42 PM
A quote from Moreno this week:

“(Sitting out the past eight weeks has been) tough,” said Moreno. ”You just want to go out there and help your team win. I took the approach where I was helping my team win in practice, doing any type of special-teams or scout team work that I needed to do to help the team win. That’s the approach I was taking.”

“You just never know when your chance is going to be. When your chances do come, you’ve got to make the most of those and go about it the right way. I think that’s where I was.”

Gotta love the positive attitude. I was pretty down on Moreno in the first few weeks of the year, but I'm definitely rooting for him to have a break-out game this week.

You see it as positive attitude , I see it as not wanting to get cut and loses the rest of his contract money.

Do not remember his contract but thought it was in the 4+mil a year area. Divide that by 16 and it is a good chunk of change to piss away by not doing what the boss man says.

I hope he turns out to be the second coming of TD. But I'm not holding my breath.

lonestar
11-20-2012, 12:45 PM
Unless I missed something about Ball being injured, I still see Ball getting the majority of the snaps.

He has been with Manning a few years and understands the O better. Vs Moreno who has been playing scout squad.

Steve Sewell
11-20-2012, 01:16 PM
Take himself out after every running play, looking like he's suffered some catastrophic injury.

broncocalijohn
11-20-2012, 02:18 PM
Glad I was one that said don't cut him as he is insurance. Better than anything on the scrap heap. Just hope not too much rust on that tender body.

TomServo
11-20-2012, 03:14 PM
check the stats and compare these two. the results may surpise you. check ypc, long runs, yards per season. first downs etc. i couldnt find a side by side comaprison so just paste KM into the search window.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5566/tatum-bell

2KBack
11-20-2012, 03:17 PM
check the stats and compare these two. the results may surpise you. check ypc, long runs, yards per season. first downs etc. i couldnt find a side by side comaprison so just paste KM into the search window.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5566/tatum-bell

no it won't....Bell played in the Shanahan system.

errand
11-20-2012, 03:23 PM
check the stats and compare these two. the results may surpise you. check ypc, long runs, yards per season. first downs etc. i couldnt find a side by side comaprison so just paste KM into the search window.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5566/tatum-bell

what does Bell's success or lack of success have to do with Moreno's success or lack there of?

Two different systems....RB's that were successful in ZBS have sometimes looked lost in other running systems....and vice versa.

TomServo
11-20-2012, 03:36 PM
im not lobbying for the cell phone guy to be signed. i see you probably didnt look at the stats. KM's longest run in 4 years is 36 yards.cell phone guy, 68 in one season 51 in another so all runs in between are unknown. both played short seasons but cell phone guy came out of the kiosk in 2008 and had a better season than KM starting fresh in 2011. explain how old man buckhalter did fine and old man mcgahee run fine behind the exact same offense? KM and T Bell both fell down if a slight breeze hit them. but given a little room t bell could at least break a long run.

broncocalijohn
11-20-2012, 03:47 PM
I added my own option to this poll....

<LEGEND>Poll Options</LEGEND>
If Morano plays he will
<LABEL for=rb_optionnumber_1><INPUT id=rb_optionnumber_1 type=radio value=1 name=optionnumber>Dance behind the line and generally be ineffective</LABEL>
<LABEL for=rb_optionnumber_2><INPUT id=rb_optionnumber_2 type=radio value=2 name=optionnumber>Take himself out every few plays and end up injured</LABEL>
<LABEL for=rb_optionnumber_3><INPUT id=rb_optionnumber_3 type=radio value=3 name=optionnumber>Give us basically what McGahee did, enough of a run game to set up play action</LABEL>
<LABEL for=rb_optionnumber_4><INPUT id=rb_optionnumber_4 type=radio value=4 name=optionnumber>Have a monster game both running and receiving</LABEL>

<INPUT id=rb_optionnumber_4 type=radio CHECKED value=4 name=optionnumber>When did we sign this Morano guy?

stopgap
11-20-2012, 03:48 PM
More confident with him than Ball. :o

lonestar
11-20-2012, 04:08 PM
According to an interview with him. He said it has been nice to allow his injury to completely heal. ..

So let's see if he makes something of it.

If he makes it on the field at all other than to spell Ball.

Agamemnon
11-20-2012, 04:30 PM
My guess would be that he'll either be moderately effective or get hurt.

errand
11-20-2012, 04:31 PM
im not lobbying for the cell phone guy to be signed. i see you probably didnt look at the stats. KM's longest run in 4 years is 36 yards.cell phone guy, 68 in one season 51 in another so all runs in between are unknown. both played short seasons but cell phone guy came out of the kiosk in 2008 and had a better season than KM starting fresh in 2011. explain how old man buckhalter did fine and old man mcgahee run fine behind the exact same offense? KM and T Bell both fell down if a slight breeze hit them. but given a little room t bell could at least break a long run.

Buckhalter had good ypc average in Philly as well as Denver...problem was he couldn't stay healthy, so I think he was just a very talented RB. McGahee in a tough between the tackles kind of guy, perfect fit for a power running team....I think they would have been decent RB's no matter who they played for.

Bell on the other hand was very good for the ZBS...a one cut and go kind of guy....and generally the ZBS allows a good size cutback lane which could explain why Bell was able to hit a long gainer. He was less successful in Detroit...and was made expendable in Denver by Mike getting canned as McD tried to turn us into a power running team with a ZBS OL....and Moreno almost gained 1000 yards while splitting carries behind that line.

Knowshon catches a lot of flack due to his where he was drafted....like it's his fault McDaniels thought he was worth the 12th overall pick. At the time he was entering the draft he was considered by almost all of the draft "experts" as the most complete back coming out in '09.

If he gets to play, I think he'll make a solid contribution....as will the other guys

Taco John
11-20-2012, 05:00 PM
Where's "Accidentally hang himself while jumping rope?"

baja
11-20-2012, 05:12 PM
Poll at 63% for good to great / 37% sucks

baja
11-20-2012, 05:13 PM
Where's "Accidentally hang himself while jumping rope?"

Careful now that's a banning offense. ;D

cmhargrove
11-20-2012, 05:18 PM
If he does score a TD, I just don't want to see him do anything pelvic related. The dude likes touching his balls (either himself, or on other team mates).

Please Knowshon, no balls...

Beantown Bronco
11-21-2012, 07:23 AM
explain how old man buckhalter did fine and old man mcgahee run fine behind the exact same offense?

Huh? When did Moreno and McGahee run behind exactly the same offense. Only real time was last year before Moreno got hurt and he had exactly the same ypc as McGahee did.

2KBack
11-21-2012, 07:56 AM
im not lobbying for the cell phone guy to be signed. i see you probably didnt look at the stats. KM's longest run in 4 years is 36 yards.cell phone guy, 68 in one season 51 in another so all runs in between are unknown. both played short seasons but cell phone guy came out of the kiosk in 2008 and had a better season than KM starting fresh in 2011. explain how old man buckhalter did fine and old man mcgahee run fine behind the exact same offense? KM and T Bell both fell down if a slight breeze hit them. but given a little room t bell could at least break a long run.

I have seen attempts at this comparison before and yes I did look at the stats. They are essentially meaningless considering the offense. You seem quite confused as to when guys were playing and the system they were playing in. Bell always played in the Shanahan system, and excelled at being fast when he wasn't touched, there's a reason why no one picked Bell up again after the 2008 season. Macgahee and Moreno never played in the same system outside of last season, where unfortunately Moreno got hurt before reaping the benefits of the Tebow running game (although it flashed in KC). Buckhalter was the #2 behind Moreno because KM was the more consistent of the two.

you also seem to have the same selective memory about Moreno that others do. Moreno did not go down easy like Tatum did. He didn't get far a lot, due to guys being in the backfield immediately though.

Beantown Bronco
11-25-2012, 02:38 PM
Anyone like to eat some crow?

errand
11-25-2012, 02:48 PM
Anyone like to eat some crow?

Moreno 20-85-4.3-0td's and 4 receptions for 26 yards....112 total yards.

And even playing this good, we're still gonna hear about the time he tripped himself up trying to avoid Dreesen, or slipped.....