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LonghornBronco
11-11-2012, 08:49 PM
Anyone else think we aught to play Ayers over Wolf? Ayers has been awfully impressive lately, and like so many mane memes wolf is taking a dump!

DBroncos4life
11-11-2012, 08:51 PM
Good god no, they can be on the field at the same time.

Atwater His Ass
11-11-2012, 08:54 PM
With doom's status unknown, Ayers will be seeing the field more now anyway. Also Jackson seemed to get more playing time as well.

broncocalijohn
11-11-2012, 08:58 PM
Maybe more Holidey too. Why not Brick Osweiler at Qb? Willis Magahee might lose his job too to Ronny Hilmen!

LongDongJohnson
11-11-2012, 09:12 PM
Wolfe hasnt done much this year so I wouldnt mind.

Cosmo
11-11-2012, 09:39 PM
Yeah, we're a top 5 defense right now because Wolfe has done nothing. You all are stupid.

Ayers at Dooms spot is fine until Doom is healthy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Drunken.Broncoholic
11-11-2012, 09:46 PM
Hearing mike florio after the SNF game it doesn't sound like doom will be back anytime soon. Said John Fox doesn't have a good feeling about the MRI tomorrow.

Looks like Ayers will be taking over for at least a few games

teknic
11-11-2012, 09:46 PM
Could it be that Ayers just plays better at right end? Maybe he had trouble adjusting to playing the left end. Or was Carolina's line that bad today?

Drunken.Broncoholic
11-11-2012, 09:55 PM
Could it be that Ayers just plays better at right end? Maybe he had trouble adjusting to playing the left end. Or was Carolina's line that bad today?

We're gonna find out soon cause speculation is torn labrum

teknic
11-11-2012, 10:03 PM
We're gonna find out soon cause speculation is torn labrum

Not good news... Hope it's just a strain, then he may be good to go for the playoffs.

This was the worst game for injuries. Miller, Thomas, Dumervil, and Manning even came up gimpy after that awkward slide.

Kaylore
11-11-2012, 10:04 PM
Torn labrums are four week to four month recovery. That's not good.

baja
11-11-2012, 10:11 PM
Torn labrums are four week to four month recovery. That's not good.

True, not good but I'd take that as long as he is back 100% for the playoffs

Lestat
11-11-2012, 11:06 PM
no, Wolfe is doing fine and getting some nice pressure on the QB and when he can't he's getting his hands up and trying to knock the ball down.
Ayers needs to stay hungry and keep earning that PT.

of course with Doom out he'll likely end up as the starting DE opposite Von(well, you know what i mean).

theAPAOps5
11-11-2012, 11:13 PM
Torn labrums are four week to four month recovery. That's not good.

Where is that speculation coming from though? It wan't good that Fox said he is uneasy about the results tomorrow but I missed the labrum. That is no bueno.

ZONA
11-11-2012, 11:51 PM
I don't know where that speculation is coming from either. All we "know" is that Doom said he felt a strain but didn't hear or feel any pop. I don't know but that sounds encouraging to me.

BroncsCheer
11-11-2012, 11:57 PM
Not good news... Hope it's just a strain, then he may be good to go for the playoffs.

This was the worst game for injuries. Miller, Thomas, Dumervil, and Manning even came up gimpy after that awkward slide.

Manning looked 'gimpy' because his kneebrace got twisted a bit when it augured in on the slide. Not an issue- it was the brace.

Kinda funny looking back on the replay and seeing his brace leave a divot in the grass.

ZONA
11-12-2012, 12:01 AM
Manning looked 'gimpy' because his kneebrace got twisted a bit when it augured in on the slide. Not an issue- it was the brace.

Kinda funny looking back on the replay and seeing his brace leave a divot in the grass.

Yup, I've seen that happen quite a few times in both NFL and College from both QB's and linemen. Not an issue. Glad to see the thumbnail is not bothering him either.

Bacchus
11-12-2012, 02:40 AM
Maybe Ayers is doing well because he is getting rest from the rotation that is being used. I think he'll be getting more playing time he has earned it.

LongDongJohnson
11-12-2012, 02:49 AM
Yeah, we're a top 5 defense right now because Wolfe has done nothing. You all are stupid.

Ayers at Dooms spot is fine until Doom is healthy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Out of the 11 starters on defense id say wolfe has contributed the least.

Doggcow
11-12-2012, 03:13 AM
Out of the 11 starters on defense id say wolfe has contributed the least.

Mike Adams says hi.

Drek
11-12-2012, 05:32 AM
Good god people.

Right now Wolfe is giving us the kind of production we got out of Ayers last season. Very good run D and flashes of pass rush. I would even say Wolfe is doing a tangible amount better at generating pass rush than Ayers could last year. This is what he's doing as a rookie. Wolfe is a valuable part of the DL rotation.

Ayers is starting to step it up and he definitely should start getting in the mix more, but that doesn't mean you just sit Wolfe. I'd rather see them get Doom off the field more (assuming he's even healthy now) on potential rushing downs and get Ayers on the field along with Wolfe in nickel and dime packages when possible.

Ayers stepping up doesn't mean we drag Wolfe down, just that we look for more opportunities for Ayers to contribute.

Jay3
11-12-2012, 06:15 AM
Could it be that Ayers just plays better at right end? Maybe he had trouble adjusting to playing the left end. Or was Carolina's line that bad today?

Carolina's line is absolute garbage. The Broncos were gang-tackling Newton yesterday.

Agamemnon
11-12-2012, 06:45 AM
Where on earth is this torn labrum talk coming from?

Broncoman13
11-12-2012, 06:48 AM
Torn labrums are four week to four month recovery. That's not good.

Torn labrums are not four weeks... No way no how. The good news, he could possibly play with a torn labrum. It will limit his arm range of motion which is bad for a player like Doom. But, it could put him into a 3rd down specialist type of role which isn't necessarily at bad fit. If he decides to have it repaired through surgery, it's at least 10 weeks and that is super aggressive. It took me 6 months and I specifically asked my doc and PT how long a professional athlete would take to recover. They said with twice daily therapy, possibly 2-3 months.

Ed Reed is playing through a torn labrum right now as well... If it is indeed a torn labrum.

Also, if it is a labrum injury, he would be risking a dislocated shoulder as the labrum is what secures the shoulder's AC Joint. Kind of a small tendon that overlaps the socket to hold everything tightly in place.

Broncoman13
11-12-2012, 06:51 AM
Good god people.

Right now Wolfe is giving us the kind of production we got out of Ayers last season. Very good run D and flashes of pass rush. I would even say Wolfe is doing a tangible amount better at generating pass rush than Ayers could last year. This is what he's doing as a rookie. Wolfe is a valuable part of the DL rotation.

Ayers is starting to step it up and he definitely should start getting in the mix more, but that doesn't mean you just sit Wolfe. I'd rather see them get Doom off the field more (assuming he's even healthy now) on potential rushing downs and get Ayers on the field along with Wolfe in nickel and dime packages when possible.

Ayers stepping up doesn't mean we drag Wolfe down, just that we look for more opportunities for Ayers to contribute.

Agree! I think Ayers in the lineup opposite Wolfe makes a lot of sense. It will definitely help vs the run.

DENVERDUI55
11-12-2012, 08:50 AM
Big bob will get plenty of playing time in the rotation. JDR finally has turned him loose.

Irish Stout
11-12-2012, 08:56 AM
Out of the 11 starters on defense id say wolfe has contributed the least.

I suggest you watch more games. You might find it enlightening.

ColoradoDarin
11-12-2012, 09:24 AM
Sit Champ, play Carter!

baja
11-12-2012, 09:40 AM
sit Manning let's see what we got in Brock

TheReverend
11-12-2012, 09:45 AM
Why are people so hung up on "starts"?

Think snaps. And Ayers is earning more.

It's a positive to be able to rotate guys in and out and keep them "fresher" without a significant drop off in ability.

gyldenlove
11-12-2012, 10:08 AM
Why are people so hung up on "starts"?

Think snaps. And Ayers is earning more.

It's a positive to be able to rotate guys in and out and keep them "fresher" without a significant drop off in ability.

This, a million times this.

I don't give 2 ****s about who is on the field for the first snap of the game, I care more about who is on the field for the next 60.

Having depth on the DL and a competent pass rush is something we have not had for many years, lets enjoy it and lets enjoy that we can put fresh guys in there who can provide pressure and disruption all game long.

I remember not that many years ago, a team from the East coast called the Giants won a super bowl or two using an aggressive 4-3 front with many different pass rushers who could be switched and moved around to generate pressure all game long.....

DENVERDUI55
11-12-2012, 10:12 AM
Why are people so hung up on "starts"?

Think snaps. And Ayers is earning more.

It's a positive to be able to rotate guys in and out and keep them "fresher" without a significant drop off in ability.

Exactly and who is playing in the 4th quarter when the money is on the line. Ayers been a nice surprise in a couple games. He is a guy who can play several spots on the line too.