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Vine
11-11-2012, 03:41 PM
Someone might say I am nitpicking and should be happy with the win, (which I am), but the turnovers are getting old. It would be nice for once, if Denver can have a clean game offensively. Just once?

XXXII&III
11-11-2012, 04:46 PM
I think you're nitpicking and should be happy with the win, heh.

DBroncos4life
11-11-2012, 04:48 PM
LOL

Hamrob
11-11-2012, 05:08 PM
I think....they need to get a handle on them as well. I see it this way. We are going to win the division and probably be the #3 Team in the AFC. That means we have 7 weeks to get this thing humming on all cylanders. If we can start peaking at the end of the season...then watch out.

But, yes....the turnovers are a problem that need to be fixed....or we will not be able to compete with the Texans, Pats, or Ravens.

Greatspirits
11-11-2012, 05:21 PM
Let's hope they're getting them out of their system now, cause in the playoffs it'll cost em.

Kaylore
11-11-2012, 05:28 PM
Well the manning fumble is on the line. It was a blown protection and we haven't had one all year. But the fumbles are on Willis. He's been bad about them and getting worse. Averaging on a game is unacceptable. Two in a game should get you benched. That's what Bobby T would do. I said a few weeks ago but when RB's start getting old, one of the things that can start to flair up is fumbles. We will need to look at RB next year for sure.

Jetmeck
11-11-2012, 05:36 PM
The more Willis fumbles the more every new team we face will see this on film and slap at the ball that much more....................

Don Flamenco
11-11-2012, 05:40 PM
Our freaking starting running back has 4 lost fumbles!

KipCorrington25
11-11-2012, 05:48 PM
McGhee needs to get his **** together, it's got to the point whenever he gets the ball I cringe worse than when Blob posts.

BroncoMan4ever
11-11-2012, 05:52 PM
Well the manning fumble is on the line. It was a blown protection and we haven't had one all year. But the fumbles are on Willis. He's been bad about them and getting worse. Averaging on a game is unacceptable. Two in a game should get you benched. That's what Bobby T would do. I said a few weeks ago but when RB's start getting old, one of the things that can start to flair up is fumbles. We will need to look at RB next year for sure.

Eddie Lacey or Montee Ball please!

Also wouldn't be against giving Lattimore a look as a UDFA.

Br0nc0Buster
11-11-2012, 05:53 PM
Even though I think he sucks, I think it is time to activate Knowshon and get him some carries

McGahee is a problem right now, if I were coach Hillman starts next week with Knowshon and McGahee splitting carries when he needs a breather

theAPAOps5
11-11-2012, 05:57 PM
Well the manning fumble is on the line. It was a blown protection and we haven't had one all year. But the fumbles are on Willis. He's been bad about them and getting worse. Averaging on a game is unacceptable. Two in a game should get you benched. That's what Bobby T would do. I said a few weeks ago but when RB's start getting old, one of the things that can start to flair up is fumbles. We will need to look at RB next year for sure.

Are you saying we aren't a contender then? :)

DBroncos4life
11-11-2012, 05:57 PM
Eddie Lacey or Montee Ball please!

Also wouldn't be against giving Lattimore a look as a UDFA.

You do know Lattimore is going back to college don't you? He is a junior.

WolfpackGuy
11-11-2012, 06:00 PM
Willis' fumbles don't even seem to be from big hits.

And will someone give Franklin some practice on how to secure the ball.

I don't know how he managed to fall on the ball alone and have it squirt away from him like that.

broncswin
11-11-2012, 06:05 PM
Willis has a problem...not nit picking...anyone that thinks its not a big deal will understand how costly those fumbles will be in a playoff game!! Get your Shiat together Willis, or Get the f$$$ off the field!

Don Flamenco
11-11-2012, 06:26 PM
Well the manning fumble is on the line. It was a blown protection and we haven't had one all year. But the fumbles are on Willis. He's been bad about them and getting worse. Averaging on a game is unacceptable. Two in a game should get you benched. That's what Bobby T would do. I said a few weeks ago but when RB's start getting old, one of the things that can start to flair up is fumbles. We will need to look at RB next year for sure.

Under Bobby T, he would've been benched after the second one

BroncoMan4ever
11-11-2012, 06:54 PM
You do know Lattimore is going back to college don't you? He is a junior.

I thought he was a senior. Disregard previous remark about Lattimore

DBroncos4life
11-11-2012, 06:59 PM
I thought he was a senior. Disregard previous remark about Lattimore

I made the same mistake ;D

BroncoMan4ever
11-11-2012, 06:59 PM
Willis' fumbles don't even seem to be from big hits.

And will someone give Franklin some practice on how to secure the ball.

I don't know how he managed to fall on the ball alone and have it squirt away from him like that.

All our players need help in ball security. Our LB and DL both try for a highlight reel play and a run back instead of securing the ball.

mwill07
11-11-2012, 07:21 PM
at this point, what does Willis bring to the table that Moreno doesn't? He fumbles often, takes what is there, and hasn't broken a big one in how long?

errand
11-11-2012, 07:26 PM
Our freaking starting running back has 4 lost fumbles!


Maybe this will pave the way for Hillman to get more plays.....

swaiy
11-11-2012, 07:28 PM
at this point, what does Willis bring to the table that Moreno doesn't? He fumbles often, takes what is there, and hasn't broken a big one in how long?

You're joking, right?

Hilarious!

errand
11-11-2012, 07:31 PM
You're joking, right?

Hilarious!

Well to be fair, what's the damn difference?

one of the big rips on Moreno was he doesn't break long runs, fumbles the ball, and needs too many breaks in a game....

McGahee is basically doing the same ****....and I feel better with Moreno back there than Ball. He can catch the ball and is a pretty decent blocker too....

mwill07
11-11-2012, 07:33 PM
Well to fair, what's the damn difference?

one of the big rips on Moreno was he doesn't break long runs, fumbles the ball, and needs too many breaks in a game....

McGahee is basically doing the same ****....and I feel better with Moreno back there than Ball. He can catch the ball and is a pretty decent blocker too....

exactly. Moreno also has better hands - pretty sure I saw Willis drop at least one easy pass today too.

ZONA
11-11-2012, 07:35 PM
Not only are we fumbling the ball way too much, but we're the worst in the league at recovering our own fumbles. And I thought I saw some stat last week that we're not only the worst in the league at it, we very bad historically at it (meaning we are not even close to the average rate of fumble recovery as you look back at stats going back in time - as an offense that is). Another one today we had a lineman drop right on the ball and can't find a way to come up with it. You just have to wonder.

Agamemnon
11-11-2012, 07:42 PM
This is the glaring issue that keeps me from feeling like we should be favorites to win it all. The fumbles and the inability recover them on either side of the ball are going to kill us in the playoffs unless we fix the issue quick.

ZONA
11-11-2012, 07:56 PM
This is the glaring issue that keeps me from feeling like we should be favorites to win it all. The fumbles and the inability recover them on either side of the ball are going to kill us in the playoffs unless we fix the issue quick.

Seeing your avatar brought back the memories. Man TD hardly ever put the rock on the ground. That dude was ultra good at ball security. I can clearly see McGahee really gets that ball away from his body when he makes his moves. TD kept that thing tight. I love how McGahee fights for those extra yards but you have to keep that ball tighter. Other guys do it, I know he can do it. I guess nothing we can but hope for the best.

swaiy
11-11-2012, 08:25 PM
The difference between Moreno and McGahee? Willis actually gets yards lmao.

You guys are nuts.

Stagger Lee
11-12-2012, 06:16 AM
The difference between Moreno and McGahee? Willis actually gets yards lmao.

You guys are nuts.

This. Moreno is teh suck.

Agamemnon
11-12-2012, 06:50 AM
The difference between Moreno and McGahee? Willis actually gets yards lmao.

You guys are nuts.

Err...Moreno has a career average of 4.1 yards per carry which is the same as McGahee's career average. So no, that's not the difference. The difference is he doesn't get hurt constantly and he gets the tough yards.

BroncoMan4ever
11-12-2012, 09:02 AM
Well to be fair, what's the damn difference?

one of the big rips on Moreno was he doesn't break long runs, fumbles the ball, and needs too many breaks in a game....

McGahee is basically doing the same ****....and I feel better with Moreno back there than Ball. He can catch the ball and is a pretty decent blocker too....

McGahee still gets positive yards. Hits the right hole and not his linemen's backs. McGahee isn't a numbeur 1 back anymore, but he remains best on the team