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TheReverend
11-10-2012, 10:20 AM
I want to dive right into one of the most creative plays that I can recall seeing in terms of game-planning favorable match-ups: The Dreessen TD.

Initially, the play looks standard… Peyton Manning hitting a TE in the back of the end zone for 6. We’ve seen it a hundred times (literally). But something caught my eye on the lineup of this play:

http://patrickturley.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Dreessen1.png

Curiously enough, that’s Dreessen at the top of the image lined up at split end in a single-back shotgun formation. Now my curiosity’s piqued and I start examining the play closer. That’s Tamme underneath in the slot. Now I’m wondering if they’re using the formation to give Decker or Demaryius an isolated match-up at flanker.

…nope. That’s Virgil Green.

Three Tight Ends split out wide in a shotgun? And if all of our TE’s are playing outside… who the heck is on the LOS at TE?!?!? Chris Clark, our swing tackle and extra goalline blocker.

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Sorry, I'd post more, but it's hard with the pics I have up to visually show what I'm talking about.

Wes Mantooth
11-10-2012, 10:41 AM
that is cool. Are they matching our heavies with lb's or was that a CB on dreesen?

TheReverend
11-10-2012, 10:47 AM
that is cool. Are they matching our heavies with lb's or was that a CB on dreesen?

You can see better in the second pic. They're all in with LBs.

DENVERDUI55
11-10-2012, 10:54 AM
It was awesome play. Show 3 te set so they get 2 lb on the field that haven't defended a pass in a long time and shift to shotgun spread them out. They had so many options. Fade to green, could run with 6 OL or fo what they did depending on how cincinatti decided to defend it. No way burfict or rey could cover any of our TE even Clark(well maybe but only if he dropped pass). Great play call.

TheChamp24
11-10-2012, 11:27 AM
Yeah that was pretty sweet, we lined up in a power goal line formation, then switched out to that look and completely caught Cincy by surprise.

BroncoMan4ever
11-10-2012, 12:01 PM
Rest at: http://patrickturley.org/brilliance-in-match-ups/

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Sorry, I'd post more, but it's hard with the pics I have up to visually show what I'm talking about.

Been saying it since before last years draft, Green is going to be something good for this team. Next year he will take either Dreessen or Tamme's starting spot. He is going to get more reps in the passing game as this season goes on and be more than just a blocker.

schaaf
11-10-2012, 12:01 PM
Something else I noticed was Decker's first touchdown was the exact same play as one of his earlier touchdowns this year. It seems they like to run it anywhere from 10-20 yards out of the end zone.

Tombstone RJ
11-10-2012, 12:18 PM
but McCoy sucks

Tombstone RJ
11-10-2012, 12:25 PM
this line up makes hella since on the goaline. Go big, big bodies that can out muscle, out reach the smaller DBs. Confuse the LBers. Keep a RB in place just to freeze a LBer or provide a dumpoff. As others have mentioned, lots of options. It totally baffled the Bengels, Dreesen was wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open.

s0phr0syne
11-10-2012, 12:53 PM
Nice catch Rev!

The play happened so fast and it was obviously well designed, but I didn't really get a good look at the personnel in there. Makes sense now.

TheReverend
11-10-2012, 12:57 PM
Nice catch Rev!

The play happened so fast and it was obviously well designed, but I didn't really get a good look at the personnel in there. Makes sense now.

I got your back, amigo

Bronco Yoda
11-10-2012, 01:27 PM
Rest at: http://patrickturley.org/brilliance-in-match-ups/

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Sorry, I'd post more, but it's hard with the pics I have up to visually show what I'm talking about.

Good catch Rev. Very creative indeed.

gyldenlove
11-10-2012, 02:06 PM
- Pete Carroll’s passion and confidence have really infected that lockerroom and have the Seahawks competing with great teams through some unconventional methods.


Seattle is really a tale of two teams this season.

In Seattle: 4-0 with wins over Dallas, Green Bay, New England and Minnesota by an average of 8 points per game.
Away from Seattle: 1-4 with the only win being Carolina and losses to St. Louis, San Fransisco, Arizona and Detroit losing by an average of 3 points per game.

They have only scored more than 20 points in 1 of their 5 away games and that was against Detroit, at home they have scored more than 20 in 3 out of 4.

Seattle has by a wide margin the biggest homefield advantage of any team due to the very long travel distance every team but Denver has, but also a very big away disadvantage for the same reason.

I would predict they win at home against Arizona, St Louis and the Jets but lose at home to San Fransisco and I imagine they will drop all 3 remaining away games.

swaiy
11-10-2012, 02:19 PM
Nice find. Did you notice anything match up wise on the defensive side of the ball for the Broncos?

TheReverend
11-10-2012, 02:48 PM
Nice find. Did you notice anything match up wise on the defensive side of the ball for the Broncos?

I referenced the Miller stunt inside to isolate Faine which resulted in a sack.

The podcast has things on Ayers, Bailey, and Moore in some good depth a long with quick notes on Harris and Carter, as well.

Action
11-10-2012, 02:58 PM
This play was brilliant due to the match ups as pointed out... Bengals defenders got their assignments mixed up and mis matches across the field... put the defense into a "thinking" mode.

I don't believe there was a screen being sold here, however you can make an argument... I personally think the defense got confused on match ups and responsibilities, while they looked to be playing zone... and these types of plays where the TE ends up at the back of the endzone running out work great against goal line zone coverages...Patriots run this all the time against zone goal line.

It's hard to tell without game tape of more games to see what the defense ran there, but obviously the Broncos saw something in tape that made them draw up that play.

If Tamme would have just ran an out route at the top of the endzone with Dreessen running and 1 or 2 yard in, Tamme probably would have been wide open too (not as open as Dresssen on this play though).

58 Mualuga's technique was so far off to really stop any passing play at the upper right half the endzone... and 99 Lawson would have been taken out by any short quick route by Dreessen.

Good work

The Joker
11-10-2012, 06:39 PM
Yeah, good stuff this week. You'd already talked about it in the podcast so I'd gone back and looked at the play already, but this is more like the kinda stuff I want to see from you for sure.

Disappointing to see how down you continue to be on Von Miller though. More spiteful, negative comments in this article despite him having a career game, can't you give the guy props just once?

We all know you're gay for Patrick Peterson but Miller is by far the better player.



















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TheReverend
11-10-2012, 07:57 PM
Disappointing to see how down you continue to be on Von Miller though. More spiteful, negative comments in this article despite him having a career game, can't you give the guy props just once?

... Are you ****ing kidding me?

TheReverend
11-10-2012, 07:59 PM
Action - yes screen. Dreessen slips past because the defender's trying to get past a block that never comes.

The Joker
11-10-2012, 08:20 PM
... Are you ****ing kidding me?

It's all getting a bit out of hand at this point IMO.

I'm living in Melbourne right now, yesterday I was drinking a Fosters in the city and on the wall beside me in massive writing there was graffiti that just said

I h8 Von Miller

- teh Rev

I just don't see why you hate him so much, and am worried that soon this hate may consume you.

broncosteven
11-10-2012, 08:30 PM
McCoy is the best OC we have had since Kubes left.

Love how they dictate the Defensive package by showing jumbo and then go wide.

This should also work on 3rd and short as well.

Got to love Fox trusting his guys!

theAPAOps5
11-10-2012, 08:38 PM
... Are you ****ing kidding me?
:spit: I don't think that guy read the same thing as everyone else did. You have been very positive on Von in your past few articles.

TheReverend
11-10-2012, 09:02 PM
It's all getting a bit out of hand at this point IMO.

I'm living in Melbourne right now, yesterday I was drinking a Fosters in the city and on the wall beside me in massive writing there was graffiti that just said

I h8 Von Miller

- teh Rev

I just don't see why you hate him so much, and am worried that soon this hate may consume you.

Hahaha you had me going. I was like " this is getting out of control ''

theAPAOps5
11-10-2012, 09:28 PM
HA, nice going Schism. Totally missed your sarcasm!

baja
11-10-2012, 09:29 PM
McCoy is the best OC we have had since Kubes left.

Love how they dictate the Defensive package by showing jumbo and then go wide.

This should also work on 3rd and short as well.

Got to love Fox trusting his guys!

Good points.

lonestar
11-10-2012, 09:35 PM
McCoy is the best OC we have had since Kubes left.

Love how they dictate the Defensive package by showing jumbo and then go wide.

This should also work on 3rd and short as well.

Got to love Fox trusting his guys!

Once we making them start thinking just before the snap the more opportunities of ciaos

An old Cary Grant movie Operation Petty Coat IIRC Had a young Lt that was the king of scrounge.. A quote I will never forget was during an air raid on the base they were at trying to get supplies.. As he raced out the door he said " In confusion there is Profit". Meaning while everyone was running around trying to protect themselves those with guts can get all the supplies they needed to get the Boat fixed and out to sea and into the war..

Now that said the next time we line up that way the LB's most likely will sell on the pass and then we run it..

they now have to practice stopping it.. which means they have another play they can't practice till they get it right..

Does anyone believe we could pull all this off without Manning running it?

BroncoMan4ever
11-10-2012, 10:54 PM
I referenced the Miller stunt inside to isolate Faine which resulted in a sack.

The podcast has things on Ayers, Bailey, and Moore in some good depth a long with quick notes on Harris and Carter, as well.

This defense needs to continue rushing Von in creative ways like on that stunt. Rushing from the inside is a big boost as his speed is going to be a problem for a lot of interior linemen plus he has deceptive strength and power for his frame