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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-10-2012, 04:33 AM
By LAURIE GOODSTEIN (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/laurie_goodstein/index.html)

Published: November 9, 2012

Christian conservatives, for more than two decades a pivotal force in American politics, are grappling with Election Day results that repudiated their influence and suggested that the cultural tide — especially on gay issues — has shifted against them.

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“Those voters turned out, and they voted overwhelmingly against Obama,” said Ralph Reed, founder and chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, of evangelical Christians.


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“The entire moral landscape has changed,” said R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

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“We’re not going away, we just need to recalibrate,” said Bob Vander Plaats, president of the Iowa-based Family Leader.

They are reeling not only from the loss of the presidency, but from what many of them see as a rejection of their agenda. They lost fights against same-sex marriage (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/s/same_sex_marriage/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) in all four states where it was on the ballot, and saw anti-abortion-rights Senate candidates defeated and two states vote to legalize marijuana (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/m/marijuana/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) for recreational use.

It is not as though they did not put up a fight; they went all out as never before: The Rev. Billy Graham dropped any pretense of nonpartisanship and all but endorsed Mitt Romney for president. Roman Catholic bishops denounced President Obama’s policies as a threat to life, religious liberty and the traditional nuclear family. Ralph Reed’s Faith and Freedom Coalition distributed more voter guides in churches and contacted more homes by mail and phone than ever before.

“Millions of American evangelicals are absolutely shocked by not just the presidential election, but by the entire avalanche of results that came in,” R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (http://www.sbts.edu/), in Louisville, Ky., said in an interview. “It’s not that our message — we think abortion is wrong, we think same-sex marriage is wrong — didn’t get out. It did get out.

“It’s that the entire moral landscape has changed,” he said. “An increasingly secularized America understands our positions, and has rejected them.”

Conservative Christian leaders said that they would intensify their efforts to make their case, but were just beginning to discuss how to proceed. “We’re not going away, we just need to recalibrate,” said Bob Vander Plaats, president and chief executive of The Family Leader (http://www.thefamilyleader.com/), an evangelical organization in Iowa.

The election results are just one indication of larger trends in American religion that Christian conservatives are still digesting, political analysts say. Americans who have no religious affiliation — pollsters call them the “nones” — are now about one-fifth of the population over all, according to a study (http://www.pewforum.org/Unaffiliated/nones-on-the-rise.aspx) released last month by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life (http://www.pewforum.org/).

The younger generation is even less religious: about one-third of Americans ages 18 to 22 say they are either atheists, agnostics or nothing in particular. Americans who are secular are far more likely to vote for liberal candidates and for same-sex marriage. Seventy percent of those who said they had no religion voted for Mr. Obama, according to exit polls conducted by Edison Research.

“This election signaled the last where a white Christian strategy is workable,” said Robert P. Jones, chief executive of the Public Religion Research Institute (http://publicreligion.org/), a nonprofit, nonpartisan research and education organization based in Washington.

“Barack Obama’s coalition was less than 4 in 10 white Christian,” Dr. Jones said. “He made up for that with not only overwhelming support from the African-American and Latino community, but also with the support of the religiously unaffiliated.”

In interviews, conservative Christian leaders pointed to other factors that may have blunted their impact in this election: they were outspent by gay rights advocates in the states where marriage was on the ballot; comments on rape by the Senate candidates Todd Akin in Missouri and Richard E. Mourdock in Indiana were ridiculed nationwide and alienated women; and they never trusted Mr. Romney as a reliably conservative voice on social issues.

However, they acknowledge that they are losing ground. The evangelical share of the population is both declining and graying, studies show. Large churches like the Southern Baptist Convention and the Assemblies of God, which have provided an organizing base for the Christian right, are losing members.

“In the long run, this means that the Republican constituency is going to be shrinking on the religious end as well as the ethnic end,” said James L. Guth, a professor of political science at Furman University in Greenville, S.C.

Meanwhile, religious liberals are gradually becoming more visible. Liberal clergy members spoke out in support of same-sex marriage, and one group ran ads praising Mr. Obama’s health care plan for insuring the poor and the sick. In a development that highlighted the diversity within the Catholic Church, the “Nuns on the Bus (http://nunsonthebus.com/)” drove through the Midwest warning that the budget proposed by Representative Paul D. Ryan, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, would cut the social safety net.

For the Christian right in this election, fervor and turnout were not the problem, many organizers said in interviews. White evangelicals made up 26 percent of the electorate — 3 percent more than in 2004, when they helped to propel President George W. Bush to re-election. During the Republican primaries, some commentators said that Mr. Romney’s Mormon faith would drive away evangelicals, many of whom consider his church a heretical cult.

And yet, in the end, evangelicals voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Romney — even matching the presidential vote of Mormons: 78 percent for Mr. Romney and 21 percent for Mr. Obama, according to exit polls by Edison Research.

“We did our job,” said Mr. Reed, who helped pioneer religious voter mobilization with the Christian Coalition in the 1980s and ’90s, and is now founder and chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition (http://ffcoalition.com/). He said that his organization outdid itself this year, putting out 30 million voter guides in 117,000 churches, 24 million mailings to voters in battleground states and 26 million phone calls.

“Those voters turned out, and they voted overwhelmingly against Obama,” Mr. Reed said. “But you can’t be driving in the front of the boat and leaking in the back of the boat, and win the election.

“You can’t just overperform among voters of faith,” he continued. “There’s got to be a strategy for younger voters, unmarried voters, women voters — especially single women — and minorities.”

The Christian right should have a natural inroad with Hispanics. The vast majority of Hispanics are evangelical or Catholic, and many of those are religious conservatives opposed to same-sex marriage and abortion. And yet, the pressing issue of immigration (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/subjects/i/immigration_and_refugees/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) trumped religion, and Mr. Obama won the Hispanic vote by 44 percentage points.

“Latino Protestants were almost as inclined to vote for Mr. Obama as their Catholic brethren were,” said Dr. Guth, at Furman, “and that’s certainly a big change, and going the wrong direction as far as Republicans are concerned.”

The election outcome was also sobering news for Catholic bishops, who this year spoke out on politics more forcefully and more explicitly than ever before, some experts said. The bishops and Catholic conservative groups helped lead the fight against same-sex marriage in the four states where that issue was on the ballot. Nationwide, they undertook a campaign that accused Mr. Obama of undermining religious liberty, redoubling their efforts when a provision in the health care overhaul (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/health/diseasesconditionsandhealthtopics/health_insurance_and_managed_care/health_care_reform/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier) required most employers to provide coverage for contraception.

Despite this, Mr. Obama retained the Catholic vote, 50 to 48 percent, according to exit polls, although his support slipped from four years ago. Also, solid majorities of Catholics supported same-sex marriage, said Dr. Jones, the pollster.

Bishop Jaime Soto of Sacramento, who serves on the bishops’ domestic policy committee, said that the bishops spoke out on many issues, including immigration and poverty, but got news media attention only when they talked about abortion, same-sex marriage and religious liberty. Voters who identify as Catholic but do not attend Mass on Sunday may not have been listening, he said, but Catholics who attend Mass probably “weigh what the church has to say.”

“I think good Catholics can be found across the political spectrum,” Bishop Soto said, “but I do think they wrestle with what the church teaches.”

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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-10-2012, 08:52 AM
This Week in God

By Steve Benen (http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_nv/more/section/archive?author=steve-benen)

Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST

First up from the God Machine this week is a look at the 2012 presidential election, and the differences along religious lines.

The Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life published a report (http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx) this week based on exit polling data, and I put together a chart based on its findings.

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There's a fair amount of interesting data here, though the results among Roman Catholic voters are arguably the most electorally significant. In every recent cycle, Catholics have been considered a key swing constituency, particularly throughout Midwest battleground states, and President Obama narrowly won their support, 50% to 48%. It suggests Republicans' efforts to focus on contraception and reproductive rights had limited success, and the Bishops' lobbying largely fell on deaf ears.

Also note, while many on the right hoped 2012 would be the year that Jewish voters abandoned Democrats, that didn't come close to happening. Though Obama fared slightly worse among Jewish voters as compared to 2008, he still enjoyed overwhelming support.

For the purposes of classification, "Other faiths" became a catch-all for a variety of minority religious traditions -- Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Sihks, and others -- which on their own represent a very small percentage of the voting population. Their support for the GOP remains dismal.

And continue to keep an eye on the religiously unaffiliated -- one of the fastest growing segments of the faith population -- which includes atheists, agnostics, and theists who choose not to associate with any specific tradition. Their lopsided support for Obama reinforces yet another demographic problem for Republicans in the coming years.

As for members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), it's not surprising that they would strongly support Mitt Romney -- he was the first Mormon ever to appear on a national ticket -- but there was one curiosity in the results: Romney did slightly worse (http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55245720-90/percent-romney-mormon-vote.html.csp) among Mormon voters this year than George W. Bush did in 2004.

Also from the God Machine this week:

* Congress only had one openly atheist member, Rep. Pete Stark (D-Calif.), who lost his re-election bid this week. However, Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.), who describes herself as a "non-theist (http://www.religionnews.com/politics/election/arizona-democrat-to-replace-defeated-pete-stark-as-sole-atheist-in-congress)," appears likely to prevail in her congressional bid (thanks to reader R.P. for the tip).

* Hawaii elected (http://india.nydailynews.com/newsarticle/537d06803c93df32ac77c81e0ade87be/tulsi-gabbard-becomes-first-hindu-american-in-us-congress#ixzz2BYonCB1p) Congress' first-ever Hindu American, Tulsi Gabbard, a 31-year-old Iraq war veteran, a woman widely seen as a rising star in Democratic politics. Hawaii also elected Mazie Hirono (D) to the U.S. Senate, where she will be the chamber's first-ever Buddhist senator (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/buddhist-hindu-make-history-in-new-congress/2012/11/07/feaebab2-2923-11e2-aaa5-ac786110c486_story.html).

* And I'd be remiss if I failed to mention this jarring video (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/pat-robertson-fifty-shades-of-grey) of radical TV preacher Pat Robertson, reflecting on "Fifty Shades of Grey" and the fact that he finds porn "boring."

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houghtam
11-10-2012, 09:31 AM
Despite what stellar examples like Rick Santorum and the USCCB would have you believe, Catholics are traditionally the most politically moderate major religious group there is.

nyuk nyuk
11-10-2012, 10:01 AM
I'd like to know what kind of Catholic supports a candidate so eager to hand out birth control pills and abortions on the public dole. Sounds like the Catholic Church has some serious internal values issues.

nyuk nyuk
11-10-2012, 10:03 AM
I don't know why someone would say, "The entire moral landscape has changed" when an election was lost by such a close margin. This is some serious exaggeration and it seems to be in conformity with grossly exaggerated media claims about who "swayed" the election and how "decisive" it was. Unsurprisingly, the liberal activist journalist sector of the MSM has both hands in their pants.

peacepipe
11-10-2012, 10:14 AM
I don't know why someone would say, "The entire moral landscape has changed" when an election was lost by such a close margin. This is some serious exaggeration and it seems to be in conformity with grossly exaggerated media claims about who "swayed" the election and how "decisive" it was. Unsurprisingly, the liberal activist journalist sector of the MSM has both hands in their pants.

332-206 isn't a close margin,it's a landslide.

GWB squeaking by in 2004 with 286 was an election with a close margin.

houghtam
11-10-2012, 10:47 AM
I'd like to know what kind of Catholic supports a candidate so eager to hand out birth control pills and abortions on the public dole. Sounds like the Catholic Church has some serious internal values issues.

Well, for one, the Catholic Church does not forbid birth control.

For two, Catholicism preaches caring for the poor, and not voting on a single issue. So the Catholic voting for candidates who are pro-choice has made the individual decision between themselves and God that caring for the poor is more important than banning abortion, and likely leads to fewer abortions in the long run anyway, as studies show.

As I explained to someone else awhile back, the Catholic Church has never banned birth control. They have spoken out against it, and they do not support it, but there are actually very few laws of political consequence in the Catholic Church. One of the main teachings of the Catholic Faith is the crisis of conscience...that regardless of the teachings of the Church, it is ultimately up to the individual to pray to God, search within themselves, and come up with the answer that best fits their conscience.

Please be familiar with a religion before berating it. I may no longer consider myself a Catholic, but most of my family still is, and I take offense to people who mischaracterize an entire belief system because it doesn't agree with their own, and who know nothing about the religion they're putting down outside what they understand from pop culture and religious zealotry.

houghtam
11-10-2012, 10:53 AM
I don't know why someone would say, "The entire moral landscape has changed" when an election was lost by such a close margin. This is some serious exaggeration and it seems to be in conformity with grossly exaggerated media claims about who "swayed" the election and how "decisive" it was. Unsurprisingly, the liberal activist journalist sector of the MSM has both hands in their pants.

We elected more than a president on Tuesday. Take a closer look at the people who were elected and who they are and what they stand for, and you'll realize the moral landscape has changed.

We have our first openly gay senator. Openly gay state congressmen and women in states like North Dakota and West Virginia. Two states passing gay marriage laws. Two states voting down gay marriage bans. Iowa re-electing a judge who overturned a gay marriage ban. Marijuana laws passing in two states and several localities. Personhood amendments getting soundly defeated in ultra-conservative states like Alabama...

The moral landscape has long-since changed in this country...like any political movement, it has taken time to manifest. Now we're seeing the fruits of that.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
11-10-2012, 11:05 AM
332-206 isn't a close margin,it's a landslide.

GWB squeaking by in 2004 with 286 was an election with a close margin.

Exactly.

Obama came within a hair's breadth of sweeping the battleground states.

News travels slowly to AngryDragQueen's home planet (Kolob?)