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TheReverend
11-03-2012, 11:27 AM
Three phases, 60 minutes, preparation and execution along with every other NFL cliche… throw them out the window. Sunday Night Football hosting the New Orleans Saints was just a solid ass-kicking. Won’t waste much time going into themes, so here’s a few notable details to take away:

- Demaryius has a fantastic decleat block and has grown into being an extremely patient runner behind blockers (*best on the team at this)

- Von’s grown SIGNIFICANTLY vs the run. Saw some great “stack & shed” work all night long.

- We saw some great blocking by Virgil Green. Certainly wasn’t expecting that.

- Chris Harris is growing on the outside. It’s hard to apply inside skills outside at the professional level, but he’s doing it exceedingly well.

- Reference back to my first post: Tony Carter continues to play like Tramon Williams. What a gem.

- Saints played a lot of cover 2 against the most cerebral QB of all time. Therefore they deserved to get annihilated in the seams.

- RE: Our new punt returner, “I’d say Holliday is looking like a dream vacation!” Don’t roll your eyes… you know you smirked.

- And to supply at least one negative: We struggled with YAC in the first quarter on BOTH sides of the ball.

Rest at: http://patrickturley.org/saints-and-bengals/

g6matty
11-03-2012, 11:50 AM
did u buy the game film package on nfl.com and rewatch the tape to give this analysis

Greatspirits
11-03-2012, 12:10 PM
A little nervous about this game, we all know about the Bronx history with early games out east. Just hoping Peyton's leadership and experience will be the difference.

theAPAOps5
11-03-2012, 12:17 PM
That decleation was a thing of beauty. Seems like DT is very good at blocking and works to excel in it. I have seen him lay out guys in key blocks a few times this season. I really like that in him.

He seems to be getting progressively better. I was critical of him but he is growing into one of my favorites.

ColoradoDarin
11-03-2012, 02:02 PM
It's nice to see players actually growing thanks to coaching....

Broncoman13
11-03-2012, 02:24 PM
Rest at: http://patrickturley.org/saints-and-bengals/

Nice work dude!

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 02:39 PM
It's nice to see players actually growing thanks to coaching....

Excellent point.

Honestly, we're only used to seeing that consistently out of offensive players and the occasional LB/DB. We're seeing some pretty consistent growth all over the defense now.

DBroncos4life
11-03-2012, 03:00 PM
Excellent point.

Honestly, we're only used to seeing that consistently out of offensive players and the occasional LB/DB. We're seeing some pretty consistent growth all over the defense now.

While people might not like the idea of DJ stepping on the field again, this coaching staff is the best possible one to take advantage of DJ Williams skills. The D will improve some when he is back.

baja
11-03-2012, 03:13 PM
While people might not like the idea of DJ stepping on the field again, this coaching staff is the best possible one to take advantage of DJ Williams skills. The D will improve some when he is back.

YUP!

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 03:27 PM
While people might not like the idea of DJ stepping on the field again, this coaching staff is the best possible one to take advantage of DJ Williams skills. The D will improve some when he is back.

None of this is even remotely a given.

DJ has been in place to make plays throughout his career and has rarely capitalized. That's not coaching.

DBroncos4life
11-03-2012, 03:38 PM
None of this is even remotely a given.

DJ has been in place to make plays throughout his career and has rarely capitalized. That's not coaching.

None of it is coaching? When has he had the same coach for more then a season? When has he played the same LB in back to back years? We have a DC who specializes in LBs. He will find away to take advantage of what DJ can and can't do. JDR has already shown this with WW. DJ is a better pass rusher of so I expect him to take over the blitzing from WW. Like I said I know people don't believe it but DJ WILL be playing and our D will improve.

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 03:40 PM
None of it is coaching? When has he had the same coach for more then a season? When has he played the same LB in back to back years? We have a DC who specializes in LBs. He will find away to take advantage of what DJ can and can't do. JDR has already shown this with WW. DJ is a better pass rusher of so I expect him to take over the blitzing from WW. Like I said I know people don't believe it but DJ WILL be playing and our D will improve.

Correct.

His ability to never make a play on the ball is on him and not the coaching staff.

DBroncos4life
11-03-2012, 03:44 PM
Correct.

His ability to never make a play on the ball is on him and not the coaching staff.

Blah blah blah blah.

lonestar
11-03-2012, 04:31 PM
A little nervous about this game, we all know about the Bronx history with early games out east. Just hoping Peyton's leadership and experience will be the difference.

that plus a huge emotional game against NOL, big win leads to big heads just waiting to be taken down a notch..

CIN has a pretty damned good QB and wr combo that worries me a lot.. I do not know their OL but I'd guess they are better than most.. if this kid gets time to pick our DB's apart then it could be that classic trap game..

I wonder if Manning playing so poorly in the first halves of some of those early games have something to do with him used to be playing at 1100 on Sundays?

lonestar
11-03-2012, 04:32 PM
None of this is even remotely a given.

DJ has been in place to make plays throughout his career and has rarely capitalized. That's not coaching.

why do these lovers not see this stuff is beyond me..

DENVERDUI55
11-03-2012, 04:34 PM
Correct.

His ability to never make a play on the ball is on him and not the coaching staff.

I have never seen such a skilled player with prototypical size and speed make so few big plays. You would think he could every once in awhile even stumble into an INT or fumble recovery for a TD. Nope just not happening with this guy.

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 05:00 PM
Blah blah blah blah.

Well, sorry, but it's not coaches fault he has 2 picks (one off a tip that fell into his hands) in the entirety of his career. In fact, he spent all of 2007 having plays funnelled inside to him.

When the ball's in the air, coaches have jack dick to do with anything anymore.

DBroncos4life
11-03-2012, 05:09 PM
Well, sorry, but it's not coaches fault he has 2 picks (one off a tip that fell into his hands) in the entirety of his career. In fact, he spent all of 2007 having plays funnelled inside to him.

When the ball's in the air, coaches have jack dick to do with anything anymore.

Where did I saw DJs best skills was coverage? WW has that down, DJ is a better pass rusher. JDR will take advantage of that.

gyldenlove
11-03-2012, 05:10 PM
I am not really worried about this game at all, the current Broncos roster is set up excellently against a team like the Bengals - their offense is not particularly explosive compared to the top of the league and they rely heavily on their number 1 reciever plus their run game is based entirely around grinding short and medium gains with almost no threat of long gains.

Right now we match up well against teams relying on the field position battle since our offense has shown consistent ability to move the ball 80 yards for a TD when required, with AJ Green as the prime target we will be able to match up Champ Bailey with safety help most of the day and allow our physical CBs to deal with the Bengals number 2 and 3 WRs. Gresham is a challenge at TE, but he lacks the athleticism of Gronkowski which should help and I think if we can be physical at the line we have hopes of covering him with a 2 deep look.

The bengals weakness on defense is definitely the safety position, which should help us go deep with Thomas and Decker but we may also be looking to get Green into the secondary to cause some damage, he is a big guy with a lot of speed.

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 05:17 PM
Where did I saw DJs best skills was coverage? WW has that down, DJ is a better pass rusher. JDR will take advantage of that.

Fun Fact: Woodyard's on pace to beat DJ's best sack season by over 50%

DBroncos4life
11-03-2012, 05:18 PM
Fun Fact: Woodyard's on pace to beat DJ's best sack season by over 50%

.5 sack at a time. Ha!

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 05:21 PM
.5 sack at a time. Ha!

..............and?

DBroncos4life
11-03-2012, 05:23 PM
..............and?

Four career sacks and he needs others to help get the QB all the way down. Scary

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 05:27 PM
Four career sacks and he needs others to help get the QB all the way down. Scary

Awesome. I no longer believe you watch the games.

Congratulations!

DBroncos4life
11-03-2012, 05:28 PM
Awesome. I no longer believe you watch the games.

Congratulations!

**** I'm heartbroken.

Rock Chalk
11-03-2012, 05:32 PM
Rest at: http://patrickturley.org/saints-and-bengals/

Question pat.

You think Harris and Carter can both be our eventual starting corners?

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 05:35 PM
Question pat.

You think Harris and Carter can both be our eventual starting corners?

It's possible, but it's much more unlikely.

Rock Chalk
11-03-2012, 05:44 PM
It's possible, but it's much more unlikely.

I dont know if they will be for Denver but I think its almost a 100% gaurantee both end up being NFL starters for a long time.

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 05:50 PM
I dont know if they will be for Denver but I think its almost a 100% gaurantee both end up being NFL starters for a long time.

They both look great, but it's important to temper what we've seen with some reality. We've only got a couple games of seeing Harris play on the outside and a couple games of Carter's entire career. Couple that with not knowing how they'd react without over-the-top coverage rolled toward them (and away from Bailey).

All that being said, they look great and if they can sustain this level of play (let alone continue to improve) they do have bright futures.

gyldenlove
11-03-2012, 06:06 PM
They both look great, but it's important to temper what we've seen with some reality. We've only got a couple games of seeing Harris play on the outside and a couple games of Carter's entire career. Couple that with not knowing how they'd react without over-the-top coverage rolled toward them (and away from Bailey).

All that being said, they look great and if they can sustain this level of play (let alone continue to improve) they do have bright futures.

Carter and Harris remind me a lot of the Seattle starting CBs, very physical guys who jam at the line and like to make and sustain contact.

lonestar
11-03-2012, 06:54 PM
I have never seen such a skilled player with prototypical size and speed make so few big plays. You would think he could every once in awhile even stumble into an INT or fumble recovery for a TD. Nope just not happening with this guy.

:thumbs:

lonestar
11-03-2012, 08:00 PM
I am not really worried about this game at all, the current Broncos roster is set up excellently against a team like the Bengals - their offense is not particularly explosive compared to the top of the league and they rely heavily on their number 1 reciever plus their run game is based entirely around grinding short and medium gains with almost no threat of long gains.

Right now we match up well against teams relying on the field position battle since our offense has shown consistent ability to move the ball 80 yards for a TD when required, with AJ Green as the prime target we will be able to match up Champ Bailey with safety help most of the day and allow our physical CBs to deal with the Bengals number 2 and 3 WRs. Gresham is a challenge at TE, but he lacks the athleticism of Gronkowski which should help and I think if we can be physical at the line we have hopes of covering him with a 2 deep look.

The bengals weakness on defense is definitely the safety position, which should help us go deep with Thomas and Decker but we may also be looking to get Green into the secondary to cause some damage, he is a big guy with a lot of speed.

one can only hope it is this easy..

I fear a letdown from the past two games being emotional highs.. that is something we have been plagued with since mikey took the helm a long time ago.. .

Also read a stats somewhere that DEN is 2-18 in early games on eastcoast time..


Lets hope those issues can be disposed of starting with this game..

lonestar
11-03-2012, 08:08 PM
Fun Fact: Woodyard's on pace to beat DJ's best sack season by over 50%

For as fast as DJ was I could never understand why he was not used Occasionally to get after the QB.. I'm guessing the coaches know something about him that we do not..

someone mentioned that he had never played the smae spot two years ina row.. Male Bovine Excrement (bull crap) for those that do not have a clue what a bovine is...
here is a snippet from teh Broncos web site..• Started for the Broncos at weakside linebacker in 2004, ‘08 and ‘11, strongside linebacker from 2005-06, middle linebacker in ‘07 and inside linebacker from 2009-10. while not consecutive certainly not in different decades..

the limited intelligence on this forum from some folks is astounding..

fwf
11-03-2012, 08:35 PM
It's nice to see players actually growing thanks to coaching....

This. which includes the coach on the field

baja
11-03-2012, 08:52 PM
For as fast as DJ was I could never understand why he was not used Occasionally to get after the QB.. I'm guessing the coaches know something about him that we do not..

someone mentioned that he had never played the smae spot two years ina row.. Male Bovine Excrement (bull crap) for those that do not have a clue what a bovine is...
here is a snippet from teh Broncos web site.. while not consecutive certainly not in different decades..

the limited intelligence on this forum from some folks is astounding..

He also had like 7 coordinators in 7 years not to mention playing every linebacker position and playing them differently with the different DC's not to mention 3 different HC's. For a guy like DJ who is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier the is no easy task. Had he played with the same Dc at the same position in the same style he would have had a much better career

baja
11-03-2012, 08:55 PM
When you reinvent the wheel every season guys like DJ do not do well.

DBroncos4life
11-03-2012, 09:02 PM
When you reinvent the wheel every season guys like DJ do not do well.

Its unbelievable to think that WW who has one career sack prior to this season is playing his best football under a former LB himself and yet people seem to think JDR can't get DJ to play to his strengths.

Kaylore
11-03-2012, 09:09 PM
Yeah the coaching staff isn't going to suddenly make DJ a playmaker. He isn't a playmaker. He wasn't in college and he hasn't been in the pros.

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 09:26 PM
Yeah the coaching staff isn't going to suddenly make DJ a playmaker. He isn't a playmaker. He wasn't in college and he hasn't been in the pros.

Shhhh... didn't you hear "he's a better pass rusher"?

Also the justification is that Woodyard has a lot of half sacks.

Never mind that means he's getting to the QB nearly 3x as often... Ha!

lonestar
11-03-2012, 09:27 PM
Yeah the coaching staff isn't going to suddenly make DJ a playmaker. He isn't a playmaker. He wasn't in college and he hasn't been in the pros.

he was over shadowed at MIA by Vilma and has been since.. a great athlete no doubt but I suspect not much between the ears where great players come from..

lonestar
11-03-2012, 09:29 PM
Shhhh... didn't you hear "he's a better pass rusher"?

Also the justification is that Woodyard has a lot of half sacks.

Never mind that means he's getting to the QB nearly 3x as often... Ha!

be careful Socal is lurking and you will hurt his feelings..

again I do not get the love that so many have for him..

baja
11-03-2012, 09:29 PM
Its unbelievable to think that WW who has one career sack prior to this season is playing his best football under a former LB himself and yet people seem to think JDR can't get DJ to play to his strengths.

I'd like to think JDR can turn the light for DJ but I see he couldn't do the same for Mays, another dummy.

baja
11-03-2012, 09:31 PM
BTW real nice analyst in the OP Rev.

TheReverend
11-03-2012, 09:33 PM
be careful Socal is lurking and you will hurt his feelings..

again I do not get the love that so many have for him..

SoCal and I love each other way too much (grow up, I mean in a completely flamboyantly gay way) to hurt each other's feelings.

lonestar
11-03-2012, 09:34 PM
SoCal and I love each other way too much (grow up, I mean in a completely flamboyantly gay way) to hurt each other's feelings.

:thumbs:

lonestar
11-03-2012, 09:37 PM
When you reinvent the wheel every season guys like DJ do not do well.

so how was the wheel reinvented every year? a different DC?

He mentioned in his interview the other day said he had the same LB coach since IIRC 07.

Not sure how much change that really is..

if he is to stupid to absorb changes in the playbook then why is he making 6 mill a year?

baja
11-03-2012, 09:39 PM
so how was the wheel reinvented every year? a different DC?

He mentioned in his interview the other day said he had the same LB coach since IIRC 07.

Not sure how much change that really is..

if he is to stupid to absorb changes in the playbook then why is he making 6 mill a year?

You'll have to ask the GM that gave him the deal

theAPAOps5
11-03-2012, 09:40 PM
Yeah the coaching staff isn't going to suddenly make DJ a playmaker. He isn't a playmaker. He wasn't in college and he hasn't been in the pros.

No dummy face, poopoo head, stop being redicules. Not one of the seven were able to identify his talent on the field and enable him to be the beast that he is. Stupid face.

DBroncos4life
11-03-2012, 09:52 PM
I'd like to think JDR can turn the light for DJ but I see he couldn't do the same for Mays, another dummy.

Mays sucked though. He turned WW into this beast of a pass rusher ::) who misses sacks or requires someone else to help bring the QB down with him. Imagine what he can do with DJ or you could be ridiculous and think WW is the only LB that JDR can scheme for.

baja
11-03-2012, 09:54 PM
Mays sucked though. He turned WW into this beast of a pass rusher ::) who misses sacks or requires someone else to help bring the QB down with him. Imagine what he can do with DJ or you could be ridiculous and think WW is the only LB that JDR can scheme for.

We'll see

lonestar
11-03-2012, 10:01 PM
You'll have to ask the GM that gave him the deal

Ah he was fired and working in WAS. Just another reason to fire his ass..

lonestar
11-03-2012, 10:04 PM
We'll see

I doubt it. He Certainly will not be here next year with his cap numbers.

The Joker
11-03-2012, 11:07 PM
Bit of constructive criticism, if you're open to it.

(If there's one thing we all know the Rev reacts well to it's being criticised!! ;) )

I'd much prefer to see you choose two or three topics and go into real detail on them rather than the approach you're taking now.

For example, maybe spend a couple of paragraphs breaking down some of Harris' plays when he's lined up outside. What's he doing well? What does he need to improve upon? Same for your comment on Von against the run, or Demaryius' patience in waiting for his blockers.

I enjoy reading your posts on here because when you actually go into some depth you're one of the better posters on here in terms of providing insight into what's going on out on the field. There was some interesting ideas there when it came to previewing the Bengals game but I felt it could have been expanded much more and would have made a much better read had you done so.

In you piece after the San Diego game you talked about how they were using Von in coverage more and how that was a huge part of the second half comeback. You suggested using some 3-3 looks when DJ gets back, pointing out that Woodyard, DJ and Von are all very good pass rushing LB's and would thus create some headaches for opposing QB's in trying to guess who's coming.

That's the kind of stuff I'd like to read more of personally, rather than throw-away one-liners which a lot of this recent piece seemed like to me honestly.

Just my two cents, anyway.

errand
11-03-2012, 11:32 PM
I'd like to think JDR can turn the light for DJ but I see he couldn't do the same for Mays, another dummy.

While he might be a dumbass, DJ is more talented than Mays is...and that might make the job of getting more out of him a little easier...but personally I'm ready to move on from the off field crap he puts this team and fan base through.

errand
11-03-2012, 11:43 PM
Went to Walmart and Best Buy today...still haven't found the TV that all these so called wannabe analysts on here have.

baja
11-04-2012, 12:01 AM
Just watched Rudy AGAIN.

I LOVE THAT MOVE Silly old man that I am.

baja
11-04-2012, 12:03 AM
RUDY RUDY RUDY

ZONA
11-04-2012, 01:12 AM
Its unbelievable to think that WW who has one career sack prior to this season is playing his best football under a former LB himself and yet people seem to think JDR can't get DJ to play to his strengths.

I have to agree with this. Woodyard was considered a nice backup until lately. I give him credit, he's played well. But I also think JDR has a little something to do with it, and also I think our secondary has improved quite a bit as well. I don't know what all the fuss is though, people like or don't like DJ. Fact is, it doesn't matter. He's on the team for a reason. He is probably going to get a good shot at some considerable playing time when he does come back. Honestly though, this is not DJ vs Woodyard. I happen to think Woodyard is staying where he is and DJ will play MLB. If there is one thing DJ does do very well, that is blitz. I think he's solid at coverage and solid at tackling. It's going to be fun.

But back to the topic of the thread. I like the Broncos by 11 points on the road. Broncos 31 Bengals 20.

lonestar
11-04-2012, 02:28 AM
I have to agree with this. Woodyard was considered a nice backup until lately. I give him credit, he's played well. But I also think JDR has a little something to do with it, and also I think our secondary has improved quite a bit as well. I don't know what all the fuss is though, people like or don't like DJ. Fact is, it doesn't matter. He's on the team for a reason. He is probably going to get a good shot at some considerable playing time when he does come back. Honestly though, this is not DJ vs Woodyard. I happen to think Woodyard is staying where he is and DJ will play MLB. If there is one thing DJ does do very well, that is blitz. I think he's solid at coverage and solid at tackling. It's going to be fun.

But back to the topic of the thread. I like the Broncos by 11 points on the road. Broncos 31 Bengals 20.

Dj is not a MLB played it in 07 and they moved him to will the next year. He proved at the time he was unable to make the calls for the front seven. With absolutely o experience so far with this new scheme and player group you think they will make him a MLB.

This is not FF nor madden. Time to get over the bromance.

TheReverend
11-04-2012, 07:24 AM
Bit of constructive criticism, if you're open to it.

(If there's one thing we all know the Rev reacts well to it's being criticised!! ;) )

I'd much prefer to see you choose two or three topics and go into real detail on them rather than the approach you're taking now.

For example, maybe spend a couple of paragraphs breaking down some of Harris' plays when he's lined up outside. What's he doing well? What does he need to improve upon? Same for your comment on Von against the run, or Demaryius' patience in waiting for his blockers.

I enjoy reading your posts on here because when you actually go into some depth you're one of the better posters on here in terms of providing insight into what's going on out on the field. There was some interesting ideas there when it came to previewing the Bengals game but I felt it could have been expanded much more and would have made a much better read had you done so.

In you piece after the San Diego game you talked about how they were using Von in coverage more and how that was a huge part of the second half comeback. You suggested using some 3-3 looks when DJ gets back, pointing out that Woodyard, DJ and Von are all very good pass rushing LB's and would thus create some headaches for opposing QB's in trying to guess who's coming.

That's the kind of stuff I'd like to read more of personally, rather than throw-away one-liners which a lot of this recent piece seemed like to me honestly.

Just my two cents, anyway.

Great input.

Sold.

TheReverend
11-04-2012, 07:28 AM
Went to Walmart

Not even a little surprised.

Dedhed
11-04-2012, 08:34 AM
Where did I saw DJs best skills was coverage? WW has that down, DJ is a better pass rusher. JDR will take advantage of that.

WW has 3 sacks through 7 games as a full time starter. DJ's best season in that category was 5.5 for a full year.

DBroncos4life
11-04-2012, 08:55 AM
WW has 3 sacks through 7 games as a full time starter. DJ's best season in that category was 5.5 for a full year.
WW with same staff as DJ = 1 career sack (last two years)
WW with JDR sack monster
DJ with same staff as WW = 10.5 sacks (last two years)
DJ with JDR = can't rush the passer??? Please!

Some how the DCs before could make DJ a better pass rusher then WW yet some how you guys think JDR can't.

PS Watt is beast.

TheReverend
11-04-2012, 08:57 AM
WW with same staff as DJ = 1 career sack (last two years)
WW with JDR sack monster
DJ with same staff as WW = 10.5 sacks (last two years)
DJ with JDR = can't rush the passer??? Please!

Some how the DCs before could make DJ a better pass rusher then WW yet some how you guys think JDR can't.

PS Watt is beast.

Holy ****ing flawed logic. DJ's been the one on the field getting the opportunities.

You just wouldn't notice because he can't capitalize and make plays.

errand
11-04-2012, 09:00 AM
Not even a little surprised.

sure, like Target is so much better...LOL

Yeah you're right...I should've just went to the horse's ass....err, mouth and asked you what kind of TV you own....

cuz no matter which TV I have watched the Broncos on, the camera only follows where the ball goes....but please keep regurgitating **** we already know......

I find it hilarious that clowns like you come in here with -

[] no access to NFL game film

[] no numerous camera angles provided by NFL Films or the networks

[] nor any experience coaching (or being coached) or playing the game at the NFL level

But think you know more than the average jock who does have access to such .....but please continue to post stupid **** like how the great Patrick Peterson won't face anyone good enough to showcase his amazing talents....LOL LOL LOL LOL

DBroncos4life
11-04-2012, 09:02 AM
I have to agree with this. Woodyard was considered a nice backup until lately. I give him credit, he's played well. But I also think JDR has a little something to do with it, and also I think our secondary has improved quite a bit as well. I don't know what all the fuss is though, people like or don't like DJ. Fact is, it doesn't matter. He's on the team for a reason. He is probably going to get a good shot at some considerable playing time when he does come back. Honestly though, this is not DJ vs Woodyard. I happen to think Woodyard is staying where he is and DJ will play MLB. If there is one thing DJ does do very well, that is blitz. I think he's solid at coverage and solid at tackling. It's going to be fun.

But back to the topic of the thread. I like the Broncos by 11 points on the road. Broncos 31 Bengals 20.

This^

TheReverend
11-04-2012, 09:07 AM
sure, like Target is so much better...LOL

Yeah you're right...I should've just went to the horse's ass....err, mouth and asked you what kind of TV you own....

cuz no matter which TV I have watched the Broncos on, the camera only follows where the ball goes....but please keep regurgitating **** we already know......

I find it hilarious that clowns like you come in here with -

[] no access to NFL game film

[] no numerous camera angles provided by NFL Films or the networks

[] nor any experience coaching (or being coached) or playing the game at the NFL level

But think you know more than the average jock who does have access to such .....but please continue to post stupid **** like how the great Patrick Peterson won't face anyone good enough to showcase his amazing talents....LOL LOL LOL LOL

Wow... think you might just be a little TOO personally invested in this?

PS. Those emoticons aren't fooling anyone. We know you typed this in tear-stained underwear

errand
11-04-2012, 09:12 AM
Wow... think you might just be a little TOO personally invested in this?

PS. Those emoticons aren't fooling anyone. We know you typed this in tear-stained underwear

Nope, just in awe of your supposed genius and infinite wisdom....LOL

oh, and on edit: LOL LOL LOL

Dedhed
11-04-2012, 09:13 AM
WW with same staff as DJ = 1 career sack (last two years)
WW with JDR sack monster
DJ with same staff as WW = 10.5 sacks (last two years)
DJ with JDR = can't rush the passer??? Please!

Some how the DCs before could make DJ a better pass rusher then WW yet some how you guys think JDR can't.


So you think comparing WW's stats as a backup is more appropriate than looking at his stats as a starter? That makes as much sense as wiping before you poop.

People have been scapegoating for DJ for his entire career. He's never been anything but an underachiever.

TheReverend
11-04-2012, 09:14 AM
Nope, just in awe of you're supposed genius and infinite wisdom....LOL

Well... weekly you not only open these threads, but click the link and read the entirety of it, so yeah, probably so.

But I digress, you've whined loud enough begging for my attention, what would you like to say now that your dreams have come true and you have it?

DBroncos4life
11-04-2012, 09:22 AM
So you think comparing WW's stats as a backup is more appropriate than looking at his stats as a starter? That makes as much sense as wiping before you poop.

People have been scapegoating for DJ for his entire career. He's never been anything but an underachiever.

How many sacks did WW have when DJ missed time. Your logic would make sense if starters are the only ones to blitz and rush the passers. WW has been on the field plenty before this year with no sacks to show for it.

lonestar
11-04-2012, 06:49 PM
How many sacks did WW have when DJ missed time. Your logic would make sense if starters are the only ones to blitz and rush the passers. WW has been on the field plenty before this year with no sacks to show for it.

I guess you know that the DCs called for him to attempt sacks?

Since none of us really knows what plays are actually called and how those plays really turned out.. Most of the stuff we talk about is conjecture.

None of us have a clue as to IF WW has been asked to attack the QB or simply learn his position of WLB last year and since we have yet another DC that was actually a Pro Bowl LB at one time it is apparent to me that WW will be the starter most likely at WLB. Brooking/Trevathan will be at MLB and well Miller is not losing the SAM spot.

Yet this year it is indeed apparent that he has been asked to spy the QB and to blitz. So far he has done well.

I also suspect that DJ will be tested on how much of if any of the play book he has absorbed along with all the booze in his exile. Until there is conclusive proof he has a clue JDR and Fox are not going to give him playing time.

In fact might just flat cut his ass or keep him inactive, until it is trading time again.

Yet another possibility exists that he play the fourth LB In a 3-4 configuration.

Unlike those of you with blind faith in him the coaches have a clue.

TonyR
11-04-2012, 06:56 PM
Broncos 31 Bengals 20.

You almost nailed it.

DENVERDUI55
11-04-2012, 07:06 PM
Even though its a broncos article the mention of Peterson at the bottom needs to be followed up on. Another rough game giving up a TD to Cobb on WR screen, poor tackling all day, missed fumbled that cost AZ because Green Bay got them afterwards and the nail in the coffin fumbled punt. He isn't very bright he didn't do it this game but he has called fair catch on punts at the 2 yd line and caught the punt.

TheReverend
11-04-2012, 08:27 PM
Even though its a broncos article the mention of Peterson at the bottom needs to be followed up on. Another rough game giving up a TD to Cobb on WR screen, poor tackling all day, missed fumbled that cost AZ because Green Bay got them afterwards and the nail in the coffin fumbled punt. He isn't very bright he didn't do it this game but he has called fair catch on punts at the 2 yd line and caught the punt.

So you're saying you watched that instead of the Broncos game?

DENVERDUI55
11-05-2012, 07:38 AM
So you're saying you watched that instead of the Broncos game?

No DVR is a great thing you should try it. Plus Denver game was over and the whole 4 th quarter to go was on the other game just in time to watch Peterson seal AZ s fate.

TheReverend
11-05-2012, 07:54 AM
No DVR is a great thing you should try it. Plus Denver game was over and the whole 4 th quarter to go was on the other game just in time to watch Peterson seal AZ s fate.

Okay so you watched that (a game you knew the lopsided outcome of) instead of giants-steelers or falcons Cowboys?

Basically what I'm doing is exhibiting how full of **** you are. You've outright lied about Peterson MANY times in the past and this is just a continuation of a long established trend

DENVERDUI55
11-05-2012, 08:29 AM
Okay so you watched that (a game you knew the lopsided outcome of) instead of giants-steelers or falcons Cowboys?

Basically what I'm doing is exhibiting how full of **** you are. You've outright lied about Peterson MANY times in the past and this is just a continuation of a long established trend

I saw a lot of the AZ game that was on at the same time as Denver. I watched the second half of those above games. I love your deflection of the bad game Peterson had yesterday. Lopsided game? You do realize it was a 7 pt game going into the 4th quarter right? Your inability to judge a player with out biased is about as bad as it gets on this board outside of the teblowers. You just can't handle the truth about your overrated player that you have a fathead on your wall of.

TheReverend
11-05-2012, 11:59 AM
I saw a lot of the AZ game that was on at the same time as Denver. I watched the second half of those above games. I love your deflection of the bad game Peterson had yesterday. Lopsided game? You do realize it was a 7 pt game going into the 4th quarter right? Your inability to judge a player with out biased is about as bad as it gets on this board outside of the teblowers. You just can't handle the truth about your overrated player that you have a fathead on your wall of.

No dude, because you flat out lie.

I've called you on it several times and every time I do, you just quietly exit the thread and come back full of more bull**** a week later.

Here's just one of many, many ****ing examples:

No you just can't ever admit he gets thrown on and gets a lot of completions on him.


Ha! Because that's literally not true...

Hell, here's even a Hartline highlight tape from that game so you can back and watch who he's catching the ball on:

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012093007/2012/REG4/dolphins@cardinals#menu=highlights&tab=recap

Patrick Peterson is quickly living up to his lofty draft status, Craig Morgan of Fox Sports Arizona writes. Opposing quarterbacks have compiled a QB rating of just 36.9, Morgan notes, and that is with Peterson typically matched against the opposition's top receiver. “I've said it from probably Week 4 or 5 (of last season) that he has the potential to be the best defensive player in the league,” Cardinals defensive coordinator Ray Horton told Morgan. “Not just the best defensive back in the league, but the best defensive player in the league.”

So in summation, this is ****ing pointless because:

A. You're either committed to being full of ****

or

B. Too stupid to realize what you're seeing

Either option doesn't work for me.

DBroncos4life
11-05-2012, 01:14 PM
So basically what I'm picking up frown this Peterson guy is. He doesn't always allow catches but when he does they go for touchdowns.

baja
11-05-2012, 01:16 PM
So basically what I'm picking up frown this Peterson guy is. He doesn't always allow catches but when he does they go for touchdowns.

LOL

Rock Chalk
11-05-2012, 01:20 PM
SoCal and I love each other way too much (grow up, I mean in a completely flamboyantly gay way) to hurt each other's feelings.

Does
Not
Surprise

DENVERDUI55
11-05-2012, 02:18 PM
No dude, because you flat out lie.

I've called you on it several times and every time I do, you just quietly exit the thread and come back full of more bull**** a week later.

Here's just one of many, many ****ing examples:






So in summation, this is ****ing pointless because:

A. You're either committed to being full of ****

or

B. Too stupid to realize what you're seeing

Either option doesn't work for me.
One article from one guy using the terms maybe, potential etc. I see you get to use stats and a bs one quarterback rating but when people use them against him you say not a valid source. Craig Morgan LOL he is one of the clowns down here where I live part of the time claiming Manning was a Cardinal for sure. He also claimed Denver was out and Tennessee was only threat. REV the only toolbox around that can't admit when he is wrong. He is deflecting because his boy has been torch this year and especially last 2 games.

TheReverend
11-05-2012, 02:49 PM
One article from one guy using the terms maybe, potential etc. I see you get to use stats and a bs one quarterback rating but when people use them against him you say not a valid source. Craig Morgan LOL he is one of the clowns down here where I live part of the time claiming Manning was a Cardinal for sure. He also claimed Denver was out and Tennessee was only threat. REV the only toolbox around that can't admit when he is wrong. He is deflecting because his boy has been torch this year and especially last 2 games.

Wow. Since you're begging for my attention, I'll entertain you ONE last time.

Your post on the topic:

Even though its a broncos article the mention of Peterson at the bottom needs to be followed up on. Another rough game giving up a TD to Cobb on WR screen, poor tackling all day, missed fumbled that cost AZ because Green Bay got them afterwards and the nail in the coffin fumbled punt. He isn't very bright he didn't do it this game but he has called fair catch on punts at the 2 yd line and caught the punt.

Can immediately dismiss your post on the first "point" once again.

Here's the play as it develops:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj73/thereverend316/CobbScreen.png

^ that's Peterson at the top. Your complaint is that he plays outside... HE HAS TO YOU BUFFOON. IT'S CALLED ****ING CONTAIN.

HIS JOB IS TO GET OUTSIDE AND FORCE THE BALL CARRIER BACK INSIDE AND INTO THE DEFENSE

I look forward to your next misunderstanding and continued lies. :thumbsup:

DENVERDUI55
11-05-2012, 03:13 PM
Wow. Since you're begging for my attention, I'll entertain you ONE last time.

Your post on the topic:



Can immediately dismiss your post on the first "point" once again.

Here's the play as it develops:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj73/thereverend316/CobbScreen.png

^ that's Peterson at the top. Your complaint is that he plays outside... HE HAS TO YOU BUFFOON. IT'S CALLED ****ING CONTAIN.

HIS JOB IS TO GET OUTSIDE AND FORCE THE BALL CARRIER BACK INSIDE AND INTO THE DEFENSE

I look forward to your next misunderstanding and continued lies. :thumbsup:

You mean man coverage where he has cobb and then misses his tackle which would of saved 4 pts? I no he does no wrong in your mind.

TheReverend
11-05-2012, 03:19 PM
You mean man coverage where he has cobb and then misses his tackle which would of saved 4 pts? I no he does no wrong in your mind.

Holy ****, this is easily the dumbest post I've read in 2012.

DENVERDUI55
11-05-2012, 04:03 PM
^ that's Peterson at the top. Your complaint is that he plays outside... HE HAS TO YOU BUFFOON. IT'S CALLED ****ING CONTAIN.

HIS JOB IS TO GET OUTSIDE AND FORCE THE BALL CARRIER BACK INSIDE AND INTO THE DEFENSE

I look forward to your next misunderstanding and continued lies. :thumbsup:

Force back into the defense. What a joke you are the play design goes to the inside of the D. They knew AZ would play man and take a chance on PP garbage tackling and maybe spring for a TD. Sure enough Wilson doesn't get him down and neither can your boy. He also gave up a 3rd and long at a key point in the game because he missed a routine tackle. Whatever dude you just think your so above everyone else when it's clear you are not. I'm not sure why you haven't coached in the NFL yet because I know you feel that way in your own mind.

TheReverend
11-05-2012, 04:12 PM
Force back into the defense. What a joke you are the play design goes to the inside of the D. They knew AZ would play man and take a chance on PP garbage tackling and maybe spring for a TD. Sure enough Wilson doesn't get him down and neither can your boy. He also gave up a 3rd and long at a key point in the game because he missed a routine tackle. Whatever dude you just think your so above everyone else when it's clear you are not. I'm not sure why you haven't coached in the NFL yet because I know you feel that way in your own mind.

Dude, I just posted a ****ing picture indisputably SHOWING that you're wrong...

Meanwhile, according to your "logic", the MLB should be tackling the RB every running play, because "that's his guy"

DENVERDUI55
11-05-2012, 07:05 PM
Dude, I just posted a ****ing picture indisputably SHOWING that you're wrong...

Meanwhile, according to your "logic", the MLB should be tackling the RB every running play, because "that's his guy"

You showed the picture after the snap and the pass happened quickly. Arizona was in man accross the board but whatever your like try to convince an eskimo that he needs to buy ice. Don't you think evaluating the poor angle on the tackle or not making the tackle short of the goalline is a bad play.