View Full Version : Romney: Huckster in Chief! Made Millions on Auto Bailout!
Rohirrim
10-19-2012, 11:56 AM
Romney opposed the bailout of Detroit. Now The Nation discovers that he raked in over $15 million in taxpayer bailout funds (and maybe as much as $115 million!). Not only that, his partners in vulture capitalism made billions, and then each kicked in a million apiece to Romney's campaign. Remember how Romney slammed Obama for the bailout? At the same time, he was profiting from it. Remember how he keeps saying what a job creator he is? In this deal, he made a fortune and canned 25,000 unionized American workers while profiting from moving Delco's (now Delphi) factories to China. Then, they stiffed the workers on their pensions and the taxpayers had to pay them!
Romney has slammed the bailout as a payoff to the auto workers union. But that certainly wasn’t true for the bailout of Delphi. Once the hedge funders, including Singer—a deep-pocketed right-wing donor and activist who serves as chair of the conservative, anti-union Manhattan Institute—took control of the firm, they rid Delphi of every single one of its 25,200 unionized workers.
http://www.thenation.com/article/170644/mitt-romneys-bailout-bonanza#
Want to see how a top flight flim-flam man operates? Read this article. I have to admit, I almost admire Romney. He takes hucksterism to a fine art. And all the while, he's slamming Obama for saving the auto industry. Un****ingbelievable. Ha!
Rohirrim
10-19-2012, 12:05 PM
Meanwhile, the mainstream media aren't even covering the story. I guess Kim Kardashian did something important. :rofl:
Rohirrim
10-19-2012, 12:16 PM
The savings to the hedge fund billionaires of dropping retiree insurance was peanuts—$70 million a year—compared with the profits they later extracted from Delphi. But the harm to Delphi retirees was severe. Bruce Naylor of Kokomo, Indiana, had been forced into retirement at the age of 54 in 2006, when Delphi began to move its plants overseas. Naylor’s promised pension was slashed 40 percent, and his health insurance and life insurance were canceled. Though he had thirty-six years of experience under his belt as an engineer with GM and Delphi, he couldn’t find another job as an engineer—and he doesn’t know a single former co-worker who has found new employment in his or her field, either. Naylor ended up getting work at a local grocery store. That job gone, he now sells cars online for commission, bringing in one-fifth of what he earned before he was laid off from Delphi.
Even with his wife Judy’s income as a nurse, it hasn’t been enough: the Naylors just declared bankruptcy, and their home is in foreclosure. (Ibid.)
Go Job Creators!
TonyR
10-19-2012, 12:22 PM
Wow. The more you learn about this guy the worse it gets.
Saw this about his son today:
Not long after graduating from Harvard Business School, [Tagg] turned down offers from several prominent firms to join an obscure start-up called eGrad, whose meager resources gave it a kind of grunge aesthetic: secondhand furniture and heating so erratic he brought in blankets to keep warm. …
But making it on your own is never so clear-cut when you’re a Romney. Some of the biggest meetings he landed were with Staples, which his father had funded at Bain Capital, and General Motors, a company where his last name still carried weight. Tagg’s biography is littered with ... short cuts he couldn’t have taken without his last name ... And yet, thanks to the Romney myth, he and his family believe that most of what he has achieved comes from old-fashioned industriousness. … The problem is that Tagg’s blind spots are also Mitt’s. And Mitt’s peculiar version of reality doesn’t just drive him personally; it skews his politics and shapes his policies. http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/108815/tagg-romney-myth-self-reliance
BroncoInferno
10-19-2012, 12:34 PM
^ Yeah, it is puzzling how Romney is able to sell this "pulled myself up by the bootraps" self-made man image with so many people. Of course, they were diamond-studded, gold-plated boot straps inherited from his daddy. Sounds like Tagg is following the same playbook.
Jetmeck
10-19-2012, 12:50 PM
Another hit on the list of this guy LOOKING YOU IN THE EYE ON NATIONAL TV and saying one thing he knows is a lie or his campaign backwalking a comment over and over again.
Very long pattern with this clown.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-19-2012, 03:32 PM
Luckily for Thurston, the Neanderthals and chicken-fried rubes who plan to vote for him couldn't care less who he is or what he really stands for. All that matters is that he's white and republican.
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/579518_546518832040299_813234549_n.jpg
Rohirrim
10-19-2012, 03:50 PM
Ha! Cutthemdown has become one of those gutless aholes who can't bring an argument so he just neg reps like a pussy. He sent me a link to a Michelle Malkin site where she explains away the whole thing. Malkin? Hilarious!
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-19-2012, 03:59 PM
Ha! Cutthemdown has become one of those gutless aholes who can't bring an argument so he just neg reps like a p***Y. He sent me a link to a Michelle Malkin site where she explains away the whole thing. Malkin? Hilarious!
I finally put that ignorant POS on ignore because he wouldn't stop sending me right-wing hate mail via PM.
First, these knuckle draggers try to hide by changing their screen names.
Then, when that doesn't work, they show their true colors via neg rep and/or PM.
Rohirrim
10-19-2012, 06:10 PM
I can't believe there isn't more reaction to this. This is evidence that Romney is a lying SOB. And I don't mean he's twisting the facts, like all politicians do. He's flat-out lying about a fundamental claim of his campaign, and he knows it. He personally profited from putting Americans out of work and sending good jobs to China. He personally profited from what amounts to being in league with a bunch of vulture capitalists who basically blackmailed the U.S. government which was trying to save GM. I can't imagine people would put a guy so lacking in basic character in charge of the USA.
nyuk nyuk
10-19-2012, 07:09 PM
Meanwhile, the mainstream media aren't even covering the story. I guess Kim Kardashian did something important. :rofl:
The common response from liberals when the MSM don't cover something conservatives say is an issue is that the story isn't being covered because its bull****. So...
nyuk nyuk
10-19-2012, 07:19 PM
This about the book:
Author Greg Palast. Well-known lefty whose work is routinely ignored by people who matter. I became familiar with him when I was a leftist and his articles were frequently cited by the likes of Noam Chomsky, Amy Goodman and other lefty scum.
The Nation and this "Puffin Institute" are liberal if not farther left than standard American liberals. In other words: The usual suspects coming up with results we'd expect.
Any article by any of these people is going to have an left bent to it. As such, why should people be impressed by this?
Would you all accept it if I published excerpts here attacking Obama from a David Limbaugh book?
I didn't think so.
Palast's idiocy and political colors are revealed in such pathetic article titles he will never hope to live down such as, "FEAR OF CHAVEZ IS FEAR OF DEMOCRACY." (http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/marxism/2007w49/msg00021.html)
nyuk nyuk
10-19-2012, 07:26 PM
^ Yeah, it is puzzling how Romney is able to sell this "pulled myself up by the bootraps" self-made man image with so many people. Of course, they were diamond-studded, gold-plated boot straps inherited from his daddy. Sounds like Tagg is following the same playbook.
Yes, every Republican candidate is a silver spooner. Yes, we know. It's one of the lines the libs regurgitate every single election cycle, along with utero-fearmongering.
Now with the likes of the Kennedys, of course, well, that's different.
nyuk nyuk
10-19-2012, 07:29 PM
Ha! Cutthemdown has become one of those gutless aholes who can't bring an argument so he just neg reps like a p***Y. He sent me a link to a Michelle Malkin site where she explains away the whole thing. Malkin? Hilarious!
You mean like this?
http://i47.tinypic.com/2vla7a9.png
barryr
10-19-2012, 08:08 PM
You mean like this?
http://i47.tinypic.com/2vla7a9.png
It's different when their own does it of course.
DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-19-2012, 08:10 PM
You mean like this?
http://i47.tinypic.com/2vla7a9.png
now why cant i ever get rep love like that LOL
barryr
10-19-2012, 08:11 PM
Looks like the supposed "independents" around here are just magically finding stories(from surprise, surprise liberal websites) to help support how they will have a "change of heart and have to vote for Obama" instead of some 8th party nobody they planned to. LOL, these guys are so predictable and a joke, but liars tend to be that way.
Rohirrim
10-19-2012, 09:11 PM
Wow! The righties are going ballistic over this one. The deflection hysteria is pegging the meter. I guess when you've made the decision to live in a bubble of ignorance, hiding from facts must be a full time job. Like my drill sergeant used to say, "Denial ain't just a river in Egypt."
lonestar
10-19-2012, 09:36 PM
I remember reading something about this months ago..
IIRC the Delphi profits came out of the BLIND trust of Ann Romney..
Mitt had nothing to do with the move.. as some suggest..
and frankly not sure what the huge up roar is Delphi has had plants in Mexico for decades..
I know I helped to supply them for a long time.. Before I retired.. Had friends that worked in the plant across the border..
more DONKEY CRAP from the liberal left..
Rohirrim
10-19-2012, 10:06 PM
I remember reading something about this months ago..
IIRC the Delphi profits came out of the BLIND trust of Ann Romney..
Mitt had nothing to do with the move.. as some suggest..
and frankly not sure what the huge up roar is Delphi has had plants in Mexico for decades..
I know I helped to supply them for a long time.. Before I retired.. Had friends that worked in the plant across the border..
more DONKEY CRAP from the liberal left..
Answered in the article, which you obviously didn't read.
Snug those blinders up nice and tight.
Rohirrim
10-20-2012, 07:51 PM
Does anybody even ask themselves, why would a guy like Romney put a one million dollar investment in his wife's name? At least we know of one million. Maybe it was more.
lonestar
10-20-2012, 10:34 PM
Answered in the article, which you obviously didn't read.
Snug those blinders up nice and tight.
Well the lefty article might have guessed at it.
But if it was at all true NObamas campaign would be running non stop ads about it.
As you said snug those binders up. As it seems your the one blinded with your bromance with NObama.
Rohirrim
10-21-2012, 08:20 AM
Well the lefty article might have guessed at it.
But if it was at all true NObamas campaign would be running non stop ads about it.
As you said snug those binders up. As it seems your the one blinded with your bromance with NObama.
Why do you think Romney put a one million dollar investment in his wife's name?
lonestar
10-21-2012, 02:04 PM
Why do you think Romney put a one million dollar investment in his wife's name?
For the same reason half of my investments are in my wife's name. well not quite half as some of them are in my kids name. As is wifes are.
Pretty simple. IMO
lonestar
10-21-2012, 02:09 PM
Let me add a blind trust is just that zero control over decisions made. Again pretty simple.
I'd rather have a rich guy calling the shots than some one who is beholden to every special interest groups who got him hired.
But I suspect that is to logical for liberals to figure out.
nyuk nyuk
10-21-2012, 02:17 PM
now why cant i ever get rep love like that LOL
It's actually against the rules and he's serving ban #2 for doing it. He's done it to other conservatives as well, so your time should come shortly.
nyuk nyuk
10-21-2012, 02:20 PM
Looks like the supposed "independents" around here are just magically finding stories(from surprise, surprise liberal websites) to help support how they will have a "change of heart and have to vote for Obama" instead of some 8th party nobody they planned to. LOL, these guys are so predictable and a joke, but liars tend to be that way.
Lots of lefty journalists like to call themselves "independent investigative journalists" but in reality they're totally in the tank with the left and write about little more than evil capitalist pigs and US foreign policy. Palast is among them. Alan Nairn and John Pilger are as well.
Rohirrim
10-21-2012, 02:51 PM
Let me add a blind trust is just that zero control over decisions made. Again pretty simple.
I'd rather have a rich guy calling the shots than some one who is beholden to every special interest groups who got him hired.
But I suspect that is to logical for liberals to figure out.
Here's what Romney once had to say about blind trusts, “The blind trust is an age-old ruse, if you will. Which is to say, you can always tell a blind trust what it can and cannot do.”
Of course, he was referring to Ted Kennedy when he said it. Maybe he thought Ted knew something he didn't know?
Rohirrim
10-21-2012, 02:52 PM
Lots of lefty journalists like to call themselves "independent investigative journalists" but in reality they're totally in the tank with the left and write about little more than evil capitalist pigs and US foreign policy. Palast is among them. Alan Nairn and John Pilger are as well.
Meanwhile, you're hanging on every one of Michelle Malkin's words. ;D
lonestar
10-21-2012, 05:14 PM
It's actually against the rules and he's serving ban #2 for doing it. He's done it to other conservatives as well, so your time should come shortly.
I put the punk on IGGY a very long time ago after he pulled that childish crap on me.
Now he can't do it nor send me rude PMs.
He has been a obnoxious punk since the day I first saw his posts a decade ago.
Something's never change.
lonestar
10-21-2012, 05:18 PM
Here's what Romney once had to say about blind trusts, “The blind trust is an age-old ruse, if you will. Which is to say, you can always tell a blind trust what it can and cannot do.”
Of course, he was referring to Ted Kennedy when he said it. Maybe he thought Ted knew something he didn't know?
Of course that would be illegal now would it not.
While I'd guess that Kennedy who had zero morals would, a devout Mormon probably would not.
nyuk nyuk
10-21-2012, 06:58 PM
I put the punk on IGGY a very long time ago after he pulled that childish crap on me.
Now he can't do it nor send me rude PMs.
He has been a obnoxious punk since the day I first saw his posts a decade ago.
Something's never change.
His profile says he's 25 now, so he's been doing the same thing since he was 15, then he turns around and wonders why I call him an overgrown teenager.
Some things are very easy to spot.
Rohirrim
10-21-2012, 07:34 PM
Now it's pretty clear why Romney refused to release that year's tax return.
lonestar
10-21-2012, 08:33 PM
Now it's pretty clear why Romney refused to release that year's tax return.
As I said to one of the others..
Sam's has their 500 foot roll of Tin foil on sale right now..
You might want to pick up 10-15 rolls..
Rohirrim
10-21-2012, 09:02 PM
If Romney is elected, he'll be the first president hiding assets offshore so they can't be taxed. That's the spirit, Mitt! Ha!
lonestar
10-21-2012, 09:46 PM
If Romney is elected, he'll be the first president hiding assets offshore so they can't be taxed. That's the spirit, Mitt! Ha!
sad thing is YOU just do not know that for sure..
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-21-2012, 10:53 PM
sad thing is YOU just do not know that for sure..
Really?
Has Thurston said he would close his accounts in the Caymans if elected?
It looks like you still have reality on ignore. :wave:
Rohirrim
10-22-2012, 07:18 AM
Can you imagine having a president with investments in China and assets hidden offshore? No matter how they are hidden, blind trust or whatever, the fact remains; It would be like having a coach who's placing bets on the other team. Pete Rose for president!
I just can't believe people would vote for that snake-oil salesman. Party loyalty is fine, but isn't there a limit? Like Drek pointed out, the guy said coal was a killer when he ran for the state house in Massachusetts. Now he's campaigning in coal country telling everybody he's their champion. He was strongly against assault weapons and now says he's the NRA's number one fan. The guy will do anything, or say anything, to win the WH. He's doing it all for him, not for us.
During the primaries, when all the righties were calling Romney a flim-flam man and a liar, guess what? They were right. Now, Fox News tells them to get in line, and like a bunch of sheep, they fall right in. Baaaaaa.
DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-22-2012, 11:45 AM
His profile says he's 25 now, so he's been doing the same thing since he was 15, then he turns around and wonders why I call him an overgrown teenager.
Some things are very easy to spot.
Om has been around for at least 10 years wow ! where does the time fly. i joined during the plummer years didnt have much of a internet during the 90s
TonyR
10-22-2012, 12:05 PM
It's actually against the rules and he's serving ban #2 for doing it. He's done it to other conservatives as well, so your time should come shortly.
Is it against the rules to have more than one active profile? Because I see your other one, epicsocialism4tw, is still there...
elsid13
10-22-2012, 12:15 PM
Back to the story in the OP. I am not blaming Romney for this incident, he was investor in Hedge Fund through a blind trust. If that is true, then he little control how it was run. But I do blame him for giving his money to greedy SOB, that seems to be a wannabe Gordon Gekko. Who you hang out with tells a lot about a man.
lonestar
10-22-2012, 12:21 PM
If Romney is elected, he'll be the first president hiding assets offshore so they can't be taxed. That's the spirit, Mitt! Ha!
Since that first reply went over your head..
how do you know he is the first president with off shore accounts..
Rohirrim
10-22-2012, 12:24 PM
Back to the story in the OP. I am not blaming Romney for this incident, he was investor in Hedge Fund through a blind trust. If that is true, then he little control how it was run. But I do blame him for giving his money to greedy SOB, that seems to be a wannabe Gordon Gekko. Who you hang out with tells a lot about a man.
He made a million dollar investment with this guy. At least a million that we know about. And he put it in his wife's name. Why? Because he knew he wouldn't have to reveal the profit he made on the deal, or the amount he put into it. It was a scam going in, and he knew it. You think he didn't know what Singer was up to? A vulture capitalist leveraged the U.S. government into a losing position, using their desire to save GM jobs against them, basically blackmailing them (I should say "us" as we paid for it), and Romney rakes in millions that he doesn't have to reveal because it's in his wife's name. Then, he comes out publicly against the bailouts? WTF?
And people are voting for this guy? For POTUS? I feel like I'm living in ****ing Wonderland. :pity:
Rohirrim
10-22-2012, 12:27 PM
Since that first reply went over your head..
how do you know he is the first president with off shore accounts..
http://www.policymic.com/articles/10997/romney-would-be-the-first-us-president-with-a-swiss-bank-account-let-that-sink-in
And read the linked Vanity Fair article to let it really sink in. The guy is a vulture capitalist. Not a businessman. He's a flim-flam artist. A huckster. No American should let this guy set foot in the WH.
lonestar
10-22-2012, 12:31 PM
http://www.policymic.com/articles/10997/romney-would-be-the-first-us-president-with-a-swiss-bank-account-let-that-sink-in
And read the linked Vanity Fair article to let it really sink in. The guy is a vulture capitalist. Not a businessman. He's a flim-flam artist. A huckster. No American should let this guy set foot in the WH.
yet your ok with obama? ahahahahahahaha
Sure liked all the hucksterism in saving the SLC Olympics..
Just maybe that is what this country needs is some plain old Businessman hucksterism to save our bacon..
I know my kids and grand kids can't afford another 6-10 trillion in debt that obama will rack up..
BTW where do you find these lefty articles and linked to vanity fair well I'd really trust that one as a solid mainstream non biased magazine..
Rohirrim
10-22-2012, 12:35 PM
From the article:
And that is of course secondary to the most commonsense questions of them all: why would a self-described patriotic citizen who claims to have helped the American worker stash millions in non-American accounts? And if there was no wrongdoing involved, why not disclose them the first time?
Justice, morality, and historical precedent demand that Romney clearly and honestly account, for lack of a better word, for the offshore accounts. Romney’s father, former Michigan Governor George Romney, made history and set the precedent for subsequent presidential elections by being the first to release his own tax returns – 12 years’ worth – during his own run at the White House, citing the need for financial transparency. Meanwhile, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich astutely observed: “I don’t know of any American president who has had a Swiss bank account.”
Rohirrim
10-22-2012, 12:37 PM
yet your ok with obama? ahahahahahahaha
Sure liked all the hucksterism in saving the SLC Olympics..
Just maybe that is what this country needs is some plain old Businessman hucksterism to save our bacon..
I know my kids and grand kids can't afford another 6-10 trillion in debt that obama will rack up..
BTW where do you find these lefty articles and linked to vanity fair well I'd really trust that one as a solid mainstream non biased magazine..
The truth is that you wouldn't believe anything, from any source, that conflicted with what you already believe. Obama ain't so good. Romney would be ****ing horrible. Personally, I'm going with a third party candidate who agrees with what I believe in.
lonestar
10-22-2012, 12:42 PM
The truth is that you wouldn't believe anything, from any source, that conflicted with what you already believe. Obama ain't so good. Romney would be ****ing horrible. Personally, I'm going with a third party candidate who agrees with what I believe in.
good for you..
I guess what most folks do not get is a good CEO/Manager/ top dog knows what his strengths are and brings in folks that can do what his weak stuff is..
Very few bean counters are worth a crap at running things.. They count beans and if it is out of that skill set they are lost..
but they are invaluable to those that do make the tough calls.. SO if he is not a BEAN counter all that means is is he will be overseeing those that do..
Spider
10-22-2012, 12:51 PM
For the same reason half of my investments are in my wife's name. well not quite half as some of them are in my kids name. As is wifes are.
Pretty simple. IMO
probably cause your avoiding garnishment .......
DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-22-2012, 04:40 PM
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all u need to know i dont care what Romney is doing i dont want universal obama care shoved down my throat medicare cade is good enuff i dont want to wind up like canada or the uk
the attacks was started by a youtube video the obama admin said so so there
lonestar
10-22-2012, 05:50 PM
probably cause your avoiding garnishment .......
Ok moron if half of my investments are in my wife's name and half of hers are in my name. How would that stop garnishement.
Just have to attack because of hate?
Or to prove to everyone your rocket scientist. ROFL!
The fact is, it is just the right thing to do. If you have a relationship of trust.
Probably something you do not have a clue about.
Back to IGGY. Not even sure why I thought after your last hiatus you might have learned something.
Just like dream once a moron always a moron.
barryr
10-23-2012, 05:37 AM
Ok moron if half of my investments are in my wife's name and half of hers are in my name. How would that stop garnishement.
Just have to attack because of hate?
Or to prove to everyone your rocket scientist. ROFL!
The fact is, it is just the right thing to do. If you have a relationship of trust.
Probably something you do not have a clue about.
Back to IGGY. Not even sure why I thought after your last hiatus you might have learned something.
Just like dream once a moron always a moron.
He's just a dullard. He is someone who gets drunk, gets into fights and feels the need to run to his computer and tell a bunch of anonymous people all about it like anyone cares to know about his silly, idiotic waste of a life.
lonestar
10-23-2012, 02:16 PM
He's just a dullard. He is someone who gets drunk, gets into fights and feels the need to run to his computer and tell a bunch of anonymous people all about it like anyone cares to know about his silly, idiotic waste of a life.
Well that almost makes sense.. SInce I do not recall ever seeing an inteligent post from him..
Must be another one of those 47% morons that are afraid of losing bennies of they do not vote for their hope and change savoir .
Rohirrim
10-25-2012, 05:30 PM
Damn! That blind trust of Romney's wife sure is a busy little bugger:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y4oerX9QNZY/T4cz1vgI7jI/AAAAAAAACVY/shdMDNSZ4e8/s400/Romney's+overseas+accounts.jpg
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
10-26-2012, 12:55 AM
Well that almost makes sense.. SInce I do not recall ever seeing an inteligent post from him..
Must be another one of those 47% morons that are afraid of losing bennies of they do not vote for their hope and change savoir .
Allow me to personally give you the finger on behalf of those disabled veterans who belong to the "47% morons" group you deride... 4321~