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KevinJames
10-17-2012, 12:08 AM
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Asked on Monday "Is Trindon Holliday going to get another shot?"

He responded "Oh yeah! In defense of him we could of done a better job of vicing the gunner in that situation and their guy pushed our guy into him a little bit that's why it wasn't a foul so its not all his fault."




Personally I am glad to hear this, I know having him muff his first punt as a Bronco sucks but he was definitely bumped into while looking up to try and make the fair catch so like Fox said its not all his fault. People were killing him last night, so I thought I would post Fox's response.

Denver needs a guy like this and I really hope going forward he can field the ball cleanly and give us great field position in the process because we are missing a guy of that caliber. Its an added bonus that he can break it for a TD at any given moment too.

Im a Bolden fan as well his return in the pre-season was nice but he takes a bit to get to top speed and I would like to see Holliday get both PR/KR duties one time to see what he can do with it. Overall as long as he doesn't become a liability in the kicking game he will be just another weapon for this team.

Dexter
10-17-2012, 12:13 AM
I'm glad. I hate to see someone lose their job over one mistake.

menonite
10-17-2012, 12:36 AM
Hopefully the Sloth can give him some pointers on how to catch the freaking ball.

ol#7
10-17-2012, 12:51 AM
Disagree. There was no contact. He got spooked with the defender right there and muffed it.

The guy is too small to do anything else on the field, what is the upside of having him on the roster? Slow ass Leonhard can at least come in and play on the D (and do a respectable job at that).

Bacchus
10-17-2012, 12:55 AM
Personally I am glad to hear this, I know having him muff his first punt as a Bronco sucks but he was definitely bumped into while looking up to try and make the fair catch so like Fox said its not all his fault. People were killing him last night, so I thought I would post Fox's response.

Denver needs a guy like this and I really hope going forward he can field the ball cleanly and give us great field position in the process because we are missing a guy of that caliber. Its an added bonus that he can break it for a TD at any given moment too.

Im a Bolden fan as well his return in the pre-season was nice but he takes a bit to get to top speed and I would like to see Holliday get both PR/KR duties one time to see what he can do with it. Overall as long as he doesn't become a liability in the kicking game he will be just another weapon for this team.

Holliday also failed to field two other punts letting them roll losing another 15 yards in field position. He has to step up his game.

Atwater His Ass
10-17-2012, 01:01 AM
He wasn't ran into at all. He just muffed it.

My patience is getting short however for this team IRT turnovers. Something like 9 lost fumbles already this season. Unacceptable.

Lycan
10-17-2012, 01:04 AM
He made a mistake, but I'm willing to overlook of it based on his potential.

3 returns for TDs in pre-season and elite speed buys him a few trys IMO.

ol#7
10-17-2012, 02:02 AM
He made a mistake, but I'm willing to overlook of it based on his potential.

3 returns for TDs in pre-season and elite speed buys him a few trys IMO.

Everything he did was in the Pre-Season. He didnt show the Texans anything once the games actually mattered, and he was going against guys who actually made the team.

He better show something in a hurry.

Doggcow
10-17-2012, 02:50 AM
Anyone else think Peyton Manning and our Defense saved Trindon Holliday's Career?

Drunk Monkey
10-17-2012, 02:50 AM
I was just as pissed as everyone else but he should get another chance. Especially when you look at what is behind him.

Agamemnon
10-17-2012, 03:27 AM
Everything he did was in the Pre-Season. He didnt show the Texans anything once the games actually mattered, and he was going against guys who actually made the team.

He better show something in a hurry.

Three TD returns in four preseason games is still remarkable and points to some real potential. With how atrocious our return game has been for years, I'm willing to give the guy a second chance.

long beach bronco
10-17-2012, 07:37 AM
I watched that play where he muffed the punt in slow motion very closely several times, and upon further review, there should have been a flag thrown for interference on the play. Before the season is over, this kid is going to return a couple of touchdowns for us, I believe that.

baja
10-17-2012, 08:18 AM
Personally I am glad to hear this, I know having him muff his first punt as a Bronco sucks but he was definitely bumped into while looking up to try and make the fair catch so like Fox said its not all his fault. People were killing him last night, so I thought I would post Fox's response.

Denver needs a guy like this and I really hope going forward he can field the ball cleanly and give us great field position in the process because we are missing a guy of that caliber. Its an added bonus that he can break it for a TD at any given moment too.

Im a Bolden fan as well his return in the pre-season was nice but he takes a bit to get to top speed and I would like to see Holliday get both PR/KR duties one time to see what he can do with it. Overall as long as he doesn't become a liability in the kicking game he will be just another weapon for this team.


That's the way it is around here. People react in the extreme. If we were all on the Queen Mary and every time we all had an opinion shift we had to run to the other side of the ship the back and forth motion would roll her over.

Drunken.Broncoholic
10-17-2012, 08:43 AM
Their guy pushed our guy into him? Is Fox even watching the same game? The charger player was in his bubble. Not a bronco. And it was catchable. At the high school and college level it's excusable. In the pros that should be caught. Again every once in a while fox reminds us he went 1-15. It was THEIR guy not ours.

Bacchus
10-17-2012, 11:03 AM
Three TD returns in four preseason games is still remarkable and points to some real potential. With how atrocious our return game has been for years, I'm willing to give the guy a second chance.

I was in a colts forum reading about the game and a Texnas fan predicted Holiday would fumble before he fielded the punt. He said he does that a lot.

razorwire77
10-17-2012, 11:27 AM
PR guys put the ball on the ground from time to time. Now if this becomes a repeat issue, then yeah, end the experiment. The timing sucked, being it was his very first attempt, but it's not like he severely misjudged the punt and tried to catch it over his head or it hit his chest and bounced to the ground with 10 yards of running room. It wasn't a fumble due to a blatantly stupid decision. There was a slight muff brought about by borderline illegal kick catch interference. Should he have caught the ball? Yeah, but I agree that you give him another chance.

Lestat
10-17-2012, 11:32 AM
eh, i can live with an occasional mistake if he can rip off some good returns and break a few to the house. not interested in seeing 7.5 yards be all we can get on a return.

menonite
10-17-2012, 11:32 AM
I was in a colts forum reading about the game and a Texnas fan predicted Holiday would fumble before he fielded the punt. He said he does that a lot.

Looking at his NFL.com stats page, it says he had only fumbled once before the Chargers game.

Rabb
10-17-2012, 11:42 AM
obviously it will take a few games to see the benefit here, but if we keep giving the other team a chance in our territory like that, I would take the slow guy that catches it every day of the week

Rohirrim
10-17-2012, 11:44 AM
That's the way it is around here. People react in the extreme. If we were all on the Queen Mary and every time we all had an opinion shift we had to run to the other side of the ship the back and forth motion would roll her over.

Ha!

Fox is doing the right thing here. Not only is he giving the guy another shot, but he's pumping up his confidence, which is something you really need to have in that KR/PR position.

Pick Six
10-17-2012, 11:47 AM
Anyone else think Peyton Manning and our Defense saved Trindon Holliday's Career?

Absolutely. Giving up 10 points, with a short San Diego field, was about as good as the defense could do...

bowtown
10-17-2012, 11:53 AM
Their guy pushed our guy into him? Is Fox even watching the same game? The charger player was in his bubble. Not a bronco. And it was catchable. At the high school and college level it's excusable. In the pros that should be caught. Again every once in a while fox reminds us he went 1-15. It was THEIR guy not ours.

Yeah, coaches trying to stand up for their guys publicly always deal exclusively in facts and throw guys under the bus.

rbackfactory80
10-17-2012, 02:10 PM
Omg. Coach defends player.

DENVERDUI55
11-15-2012, 10:28 AM
Disagree. There was no contact. He got spooked with the defender right there and muffed it.

The guy is too small to do anything else on the field, what is the upside of having him on the roster? Slow ass Leonhard can at least come in and play on the D (and do a respectable job at that).

Everything he did was in the Pre-Season. He didnt show the Texans anything once the games actually mattered, and he was going against guys who actually made the team.

He better show something in a hurry.

Let's thank the lord this guy isn't in charge of our ST.

baja
11-15-2012, 10:37 AM
Let's thank the lord this guy isn't in charge of our ST.

or Houston.

ZONA
11-15-2012, 01:30 PM
As we saw last week, I think this guy is going to be huge for our special teams....and I like how they are beginning to involve him some on offense. Not saying we need to get him 5 touches on offense or anything but I certainly like the idea of lining him up in the backfield once or twice on some flare passes or screens, and maybe once or twice as a WR for some bubble screens or something. The idea, get the ball in hands fast, let this dude crank up the YAC and maybe even get a TD. Even if the defense reads the screen or swing pass, he's so fast he's going to get to the corner and get at least 5-10 yards. Yet another thing the opposing defense has to account for.

Smiling Assassin27
11-15-2012, 01:36 PM
As we saw last week, I think this guy is going to be huge for our special teams....and I like how they are beginning to involve him some on offense. Not saying we need to get him 5 touches on offense or anything but I certainly like the idea of lining him up in the backfield once or twice on some flare passes or screens, and maybe once or twice as a WR for some bubble screens or something. The idea, get the ball in hands fast, let this dude crank up the YAC and maybe even get a TD. Even if the defense reads the screen or swing pass, he's so fast he's going to get to the corner and get at least 5-10 yards. Yet another thing the opposing defense has to account for.


Based on what has been said here about Hillman, I'd think he could take that role but hey, variety is the spice of life.

canadianbroncosfan
11-15-2012, 01:37 PM
Surprisingly (for the Mane) reading back to last months posts there was a lot of support to give Holliday more chances. In no way am I saying we shouldn't have given him another shot after the Chargers game, just surprised that this thread didn't get flooded with negative nancy's calling for him to be cut.

lonestar
11-15-2012, 02:39 PM
Let's thank the lord this guy isn't in charge of our ST.

For that matter anything to do with the Broncos.

lonestar
11-15-2012, 02:44 PM
I'd like to see him carry with more ball security in mind. As small as he is the defender are not trying to tackle him as much as strip the ball. Lots of grabs at his arms as he wings it by them.

Not to mention kick his ass if he ever pulls the celebration stuff again. Act like he has been there before and that he plans on coming back real soon.