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Bacchus
10-16-2012, 01:13 PM
1. New England
2. Houston
3. Denver
4. Baltimore
5. Pittsburgh
6. Miami
7. Jets
8. San Diego
9. Buffalo
10. Cinncinnati
11 Tennessee
12. Kansas City
13. Jacksonville
14. Cleveland
15. Indianapolis
16. Oakland

I think that is all of them.

I believe the Pats are the best team in the AFC until they are eliminated in the Playoffs.
Houston is not playoff tested and they just lost their best LB. I believe by the end of the season Denver will be better than the Texans.
The Ravens' defense is horrible and getting worse.
Pittsburgh is old on defense and their running game is not good.
I think KC will turn it around. They are suffering from the same thing Denver has been. Too many turnovers. If they can control that they will win some games.
You cannot tell me Oakland is not the worst team in the division. Palmer is a horrible QB their WRS are raw, running game innuetral and their defense is beat up.

After the first 5 teams their is certainly a huge drop off.

gyldenlove
10-16-2012, 01:24 PM
1. Baltimore - I know they have some serious injuries on defense, but I want to see them suck before I drop them
2. Houston - They got assraped by Green Bay, but they are still a good team
3. New England - Nobody wins in Seattle, you age 2 years just on the flight there
4. Denver - We beat every other team that could possibly be in this spot
5. Pittsburgh - A good team with a lot of injuries in defense, the offense is not explosive enough to make up for their defensive problems
6. Cincinnati - A very balanced team that lacks top coaching to be among the true elite
7. San Diego - Say what you want about Rivers, but he is not going to cough up the ball 6 times every game - unlike Vick and Cassel
8. Miami - I am not sure how Tannehill is doing this, but he has made Miami a somewhat relevant team
9. Buffalo - Just hope you catch them on a day when Spiller and Jackson decide to suck
10. Indianapolis - This team is talented but very much rebuilding
11. Jets - The 2nd worst QB situation in the conference
12. Jacksonville - Not sure where this team is going (well aside from London)
13. Cleveland - This may be too low, Cleveland is not a bad team they just keep finding ways to lose games
14. Oakland - This is a bad team in a dysfunctional situation with a stadium full of convicts pretending to be fans
15. Tennessee - They are so bad they secretly want Vince Young back
16. Kansas City - The worst QB situation in the league, they would need to desecrate the graves of Johnny and Bob and practice some necromancy to bring back any form of Cash or Hope to Arrowhead

MagicHef
10-16-2012, 01:28 PM
Did you see OAK vs ATL? Oakland is better than KC, at the very least.

Br0nc0Buster
10-16-2012, 01:33 PM
Kansas City has never held a lead in the regular season so far this year
They are getting blown the hell out in their games, not just simply losing

KC looks like the worst team in the league
I really think both Indy and Cleveland are better

Jax is pretty bad, prolly the only team you could say might be on KC's suck level

canadianbroncosfan
10-16-2012, 01:41 PM
1. New England
2. Houston
3. Denver
4. Baltimore
5. Pittsburgh
6. Miami
7. Jets
8. San Diego
9. Buffalo
9. Cinncinnati
10 Tennessee
11. Cleveland
12. Kansas City
13. Jacksonville
14. Cleveland
15. Indianapolis
16. Oakland

I think that is all of them.

I believe the Pats are the best team in the AFC until they are eliminated in the Playoffs.
Houston is not playoff tested and they just lost their best LB. I believe by the end of the season Denver will be better than the Texans.
The Ravens' defense is horrible and getting worse.
Pittsburgh is old on defense and their running game is not good.
I think KC will turn it around. They are suffering from the same thing Denver has been. Too many turnovers. If they can control that they will win some games.
You cannot tell me Oakland is not the worst team in the division. Palmer is a horrible QB their WRS are raw, running game innuetral and their defense is beat up.

After the first 5 teams their is certainly a huge drop off.

Right now, we aren't better than the Ravens. We'll see how much that changes in the coming weeks. There is no way KC is better than Oakland, they're probably the worst team in the league. And I think Indy is WAY to low, even after losing to the Sanchez lead Jets.

Jekyll15Hyde
10-16-2012, 01:44 PM
Indy beat GB and you have them at 15?

Bacchus
10-16-2012, 02:01 PM
Cassell for KC has been a turnover machine, Fumbles, ints just horrible. They take him out put Quinn in and he throws two bad ints.

KC looks horrible but I believe if they put Cassell back in and he stops turning the ball over they will be a better team. Maybe not but that is my feeling. Maybe they ar enot good enough NOT to turn the ball over. If that is the case and they keep turning the ball over all year then they are the worst team in the AFC. If they clean up the turnovers I believe they can be much better than worst.

The Raiders played ATl tough, but I think it is a mirage. They'll lose to KC and SD

Bacchus
10-16-2012, 02:01 PM
Indy beat GB and you have them at 15?

Then they got destroyed by the Jets. Indi can beat any team in the NFl at home in the dome. What can they do on the road?

TheReverend
10-16-2012, 02:06 PM
1. Houston
2. Baltimore
3. New England
4. Denver
5. Pittsburgh
6. Cinncinnati
7. Jets
8. San Diego
9. Miami
10. Buffalo
11. Indianapolis
12. Tennessee
13. Oakland
14. Kansas City
15. Cleveland
16. Jacksonville

UberBroncoMan
10-16-2012, 02:09 PM
1. New England
2. Houston
3. Denver
4. Baltimore
5. Pittsburgh
6. Miami
7. Jets
8. San Diego
9. Buffalo
9. Cinncinnati
10 Tennessee
11. Cleveland
12. Kansas City
13. Jacksonville
14. Cleveland
15. Indianapolis
16. Oakland

I think that is all of them.

I believe the Pats are the best team in the AFC until they are eliminated in the Playoffs.
Houston is not playoff tested and they just lost their best LB. I believe by the end of the season Denver will be better than the Texans.
The Ravens' defense is horrible and getting worse.
Pittsburgh is old on defense and their running game is not good.
I think KC will turn it around. They are suffering from the same thing Denver has been. Too many turnovers. If they can control that they will win some games.
You cannot tell me Oakland is not the worst team in the division. Palmer is a horrible QB their WRS are raw, running game innuetral and their defense is beat up.

After the first 5 teams their is certainly a huge drop off.


Balt 4th?

Miami 6th?

Two in 9th?

Cleavland twice?

Bacchus
10-16-2012, 02:12 PM
Balt 4th?

Miami 6th?

Two in 9th?

Cleavland twice?

Thanks I had two # 9's

Miaim could be anywhere from 6 to 12. I like how they are playing. I guess probably more on potential than anything.

Jekyll15Hyde
10-16-2012, 02:13 PM
Then they got destroyed by the Jets. Indi can beat any team in the NFl at home in the dome. What can they do on the road?

I am not saying they are top 10 or anything but there is more than 1 team worse than them. The ranks of 10-11 is about right I'd say

NFLBRONCO
10-16-2012, 02:29 PM
Denver is too high as much as I loved last night.

Kaylore
10-16-2012, 02:35 PM
1. Houston - you are your record. Still most complete team.
2. New England - Flawed but you just KNOW they'll be there in the end.
3. Baltimore - If not for the injuries they are number 2. I think they are banged up.
4. Denver - When you consider the potential of our defense, Prater's leg and Manning and the offense, we are top 5 in the conference for sure.
5. Buffalo - I like them because they can score and on their good days, can beat anyone.
6. Jets - They are a couple of receivers and a healthy Revis away from being a good team.
7. Pittsburgh - They had a season like this before and then pulled it together at thee end for the first of a few SB trips.
8. Miami - A Physical, underrated team. I don't think they have enough playmakers, but they are playing solid.
9. Cinncinati - For all their issues, they play people close and have some good talent on their team.
10. San Diego - Really similar to the Bengals to me, but they feel like they are on the verge of implosion.
11. Tennessee - They're not that good but they're not that bad. A really scrappy team.
12. Cleveland. A tough defense and subborn running game gives their not-so-toung QB something to grow into.
13. Indianapolis - Luck is going to struggle some weeks and look great the next. I still don't think they win more than six games this year.
14. Oakland - Palmer has quietly had a half decent year. It will take them a couple years to rebuild from Al Davis' fail.
15. Kansas City - A team that is playing below their talent, has no QB and an idiot coach. At least Charles is still balling.
16. Jacksonville - Literally an awful, terrible, crappy, barf of a team.

Crushaholic
10-16-2012, 02:44 PM
Kansas City has not played with a lead, in regulation, through 6 games. If they aren't dead last, they are certainly in the bottom 2. Oakland isn't that bad. We were just able to handle McFadden, making them LOOK bad...

Crushaholic
10-16-2012, 02:47 PM
Denver is too high as much as I loved last night.

^^^This^^^

It LOOKS like they are starting to get on the same page, but I would hold off on calling them a Top 5 AFC team...

Kaylore
10-16-2012, 02:55 PM
^^^This^^^

It LOOKS like they are starting to get on the same page, but I would hold off on calling them a Top 5 AFC team...

Who is better? Cincinatti, who lost to the Browns? The Jets? Miami? Buffalo?

You guys don't realize how crappy the AFC is right now...

NFLBRONCO
10-16-2012, 03:21 PM
Who is better? Cincinatti, who lost to the Browns? The Jets? Miami? Buffalo?

You guys don't realize how crappy the AFC is right now...

maybe

Do you think Denver is good enough to win last night without two D turnover's down 24 pts? I don't D isn't good enough yet.

The 3rd best team in AFC plays more then 1 or 2 qtr's and don't get down by 10-20 + pts game after game.

canadianbroncosfan
10-16-2012, 03:29 PM
maybe

Do you think Denver is good enough to win last night without two D turnover's down 24 pts? I don't D isn't good enough yet.

The 3rd best team in AFC plays more then 1 or 2 qtr's and don't get down by 10-20 + pts game after game.

Maybe not, but if we're going to play 'hindsight' we also don't lose if we don't muff two punts in the red zone followed by a pick six. Either we use both teams turnovers or neither however either way I think we win.

Bacchus
10-16-2012, 05:43 PM
1. Houston - you are your record. Still most complete team.
2. New England - Flawed but you just KNOW they'll be there in the end.
3. Baltimore - If not for the injuries they are number 2. I think they are banged up.
4. Denver - When you consider the potential of our defense, Prater's leg and Manning and the offense, we are top 5 in the conference for sure.


#1. Houston: You are your record, and then you have the 3-3 Pats in second over the 5-1 Ravens?

Bacchus
10-16-2012, 05:45 PM
Seeing Jacksonville doing so badly they should have traded Pocket Hercules to Denver!!

rbackfactory80
10-16-2012, 05:54 PM
C+

baja
10-16-2012, 06:57 PM
Where would you guys have Denver if Rivers hadn't imploded for six turnovers and beat Denver?

Epimetheus
10-16-2012, 07:13 PM
Where would you guys have Denver if Rivers hadn't imploded for six turnovers and beat Denver?

You don't think that massive defensive effort and people making plays had anything to do with that?

Bacchus
10-16-2012, 07:16 PM
You don't think that massive defensive effort and people making plays had anything to do with that?

I agree, I have been saying this defense will perform much better the rest of the season and they responded just killing Rivers. VonDoom was very impressive. Also the young talent in the secondary made plays.

baja
10-16-2012, 07:22 PM
You don't think that massive defensive effort and people making plays had anything to do with that?


Sure I do but can anyone deny Rivers helped us tremendously, I mean come on six second half turnovers with a 24point lead at home.

Old Dude
10-16-2012, 07:58 PM
1. Houston
2. Baltimore
3. New England
4. Denver
5. Pittsburgh
6. Cinncinnati
7. Jets
8. San Diego
9. Miami
10. Buffalo
11. Indianapolis
12. Tennessee
13. Oakland
14. Kansas City
15. Cleveland
16. Jacksonville

I'd switch around 14th and 15th places. Otherwise, that looks about right.

Bacchus
10-16-2012, 08:56 PM
Sure I do but can anyone deny Rivers helped us tremendously, I mean come on six second half turnovers with a 24point lead at home.

Well, I saw VonDoom pressuring Rivers into those mistakes. I saw two young players in the secondary making plays.

baja
10-16-2012, 09:57 PM
Well, I saw VonDoom pressuring Rivers into those mistakes. I saw two young players in the secondary making plays.

The Chargers were running the ball and eating clock when Rivers fumbled the ball on a great play by Doom but when The Chargers got the ball back with the score 24 to 14 Rivers inexplicably went to his passing game and tossed 2 soft balls that got picked. Don't get me wrong both the O and the
D for Denver played extremely well the second half but we got a big assist from
Rivers. No doubt it was the best half of football Denver has played all year but we had a big assist from Rivers. Had they continued to run the ball we might be singing a different tune right now

NUB
10-16-2012, 10:10 PM
Baltimore, Houston, and New England are the top teams.

I absolutely think Denver and San Diego are pretty well matched as far as talent goes, but there is something to be said about emotions in this game. Epic Monday Nighters like that can sink teams and raise others (2002 Raiders/Broncos, anyone?). Everyone else kinda washes together. The Browns are much stronger than their record indicates. The Chiefs, who actually have a lot of talent all over the field, are somehow just awful. Crennel-effect. The Raiders are better than their record indicates as well, but they're still the Raiders. I got Miami and Tennessee as the current dark horses to make the playoffs.

Kaylore
10-16-2012, 10:19 PM
#1. Houston: You are your record, and then you have the 3-3 Pats in second over the 5-1 Ravens?

I explain why in my list. Read.

Kaylore
10-16-2012, 10:22 PM
maybe

Do you think Denver is good enough to win last night without two D turnover's down 24 pts? I don't D isn't good enough yet.

The 3rd best team in AFC plays more then 1 or 2 qtr's and don't get down by 10-20 + pts game after game.

You're not answering the question. Who is better?

I'll answer yours. The Chargers scored on one drive they started in their own territory. The muffed punt wasn't even forced. Most of the damage was self-inflicted. It's not like the Boltz dominated us.

razorwire77
10-16-2012, 10:25 PM
1. Houston
2. New England
3. Baltimore
4. Denver
5. Pittsburgh
6. Cincinnati
7. Jets
8. Miami
9. San Diego
10. Buffalo
11. Indianapolis
12. Tennessee
13. Oakland
14. Cleveland
15. Jacksonville
16. Kansas City

Bacchus
10-16-2012, 11:57 PM
I explain why in my list. Read.

I'm much better at jumping at conclusions than reading and comprehending.

Bacchus
10-21-2012, 04:04 PM
Does anyone disagree with me now that the Raiders are the worst team in the AFC? They look pretty bad today against a bad team whose only weapon was carted off the field in the first half.

Cito Pelon
10-21-2012, 04:18 PM
6 games into the season it's hard to tell.

Bacchus
10-21-2012, 04:20 PM
6 games into the season it's hard to tell.

Well, the poll was for right now. Not the end of the season. So it is the perfect time to tell.

FearLanier
10-21-2012, 08:54 PM
This is the weakest I've seen the AFC in a really long time.

Texans are the class of the AFC right now. They are well above the rest at the moment.

NFLBRONCO
10-21-2012, 09:00 PM
You're not answering the question. Who is better?

I'll answer yours. The Chargers scored on one drive they started in their own territory. The muffed punt wasn't even forced. Most of the damage was self-inflicted. It's not like the Boltz dominated us.

I think we are slightly better but, not by much.

maven
10-21-2012, 09:09 PM
1. Baltimore - I know they have some serious injuries on defense, but I want to see them suck before I drop them


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maven
10-21-2012, 09:11 PM
Does anyone disagree with me now that the Raiders are the worst team in the AFC? They look pretty bad today against a bad team whose only weapon was carted off the field in the first half.

They beat the Jags who are in the Afc

maven
10-21-2012, 09:13 PM
Tell me wtf is so good about Balitmore.

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/131/319047856_dbf1ef3e92.jpg

DBroncos4life
10-21-2012, 09:14 PM
Baltimore is going start to fall. Right now I think we are even with them.