Why Romney Already Lost

[frerottenextelway]

"19% of Ohioans say they've already voted and Obama has a 76-24 advantage with them." Good luck overcoming that!

A republican has never won the WH without winning Ohio, and the electoral map almost guarantees that once again.

Source: PPP tonight

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I'll be glad when it's all over and lonestar, barryr, EpicNyuk and the rest of the brownie hounds of the rich and shameless crawl back under their rocks.

[frerottenextelway]

I'll be glad when it's all over and lonestar, barryr, EpicNyuk and the rest of the brownie hounds of the rich and shameless crawl back under their rocks.

Haha. Romney had a really good week by becoming a pretend liberal, but he's not going to win without Ohio, and that margin is insane, pretty much impossible to overcome.

[nyuk nyuk]

PPP isn't exactly a very non-biased site. There are a number of other states who can also claim they always vote for the winner. Invoking this is tantamount to superstition.

I don't expect a Romney win, though he has a better chance than McLame, and I assure you, I won't be going anywhere.

I will be haunting your dreams, pets...

[frerottenextelway]

PPP isn't exactly a very non-biased site. There are a number of other states who can also claim they always vote for the winner. Invoking this is tantamount to superstition.

I don't expect a Romney win, though he has a better chance than McLame, and I assure you, I won't be going anywhere.

I will be haunting your dreams, pets...

PPP is a good pollster. U can claim they work for seiu & kos or whatever, but they also don't poll cells which cost dems a couple points. And I somewhat know Tom who runs it, and I know first hand it's a legit firm.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I will be haunting your dreams, pets...

More like providing laugh fodder for discussion forums everywhere - just like always, DramaLlama.

[frerottenextelway]

And u just don't get a 76-24 survey unless the margin really is huge...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

And u just don't get a 76-24 survey unless the margin really is huge...

Obama will need the huge margin to overcome the usual GOP voter fraud point spread.

Hopefully, it won't be as bad as 2004 when OH was a repeat of FL 2000.

[frerottenextelway]

Obama will need the huge margin to overcome the usual GOP voter fraud point spread.

Hopefully, it won't be as bad as 2004 when OH was a repeat of FL 2000.

Ehh, Obama won the OH case in court, they decided to let black people vote this year against Husted and the GOP wishes.

[frerottenextelway]

I remember in 08 when Obama & Clinton were battling, and Obama nailed the caucuses and early votes and that stuff, and the media was whaaaa? That's pretty much just happened in Ohio, the most important state.

[Jetmeck]

PPP isn't exactly a very non-biased site. There are a number of other states who can also claim they always vote for the winner. Invoking this is tantamount to superstition.

I don't expect a Romney win, though he has a better chance than McLame, and I assure you, I won't be going anywhere.

I will be haunting your dreams, pets...


What reality do you live in where EVERY SINGLE POLL OUT THERE SHOWS OBAMA WINNING IN OHIO ?

idiot

[Jetmeck]

PPP isn't exactly a very non-biased site. There are a number of other states who can also claim they always vote for the winner. Invoking this is tantamount to superstition.

I don't expect a Romney win, though he has a better chance than McLame, and I assure you, I won't be going anywhere.

I will be haunting your dreams, pets...



yOU WON'T BE HERE after the election.

Your true stripes are right here for everyone to see.

You won't be here

[frerottenextelway]

What reality do you live in where EVERY SINGLE POLL OUT THERE SHOWS OBAMA WINNING IN OHIO ?

idiot

Yeah, there were other mainstream polls showing the same final number, I was waiting on this one for the already voted question. That's just a huge number with votes that have already happened!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ehh, Obama won the OH case in court, they decided to let black people vote this year against Husted and the GOP wishes.

I know, but since when have republicans ever respected the rule of law?

[Jetmeck]

Yeah, there were other mainstream polls showing the same final number, I was waiting on this one for the already voted question. That's just a huge number with votes that have already happened!


Point was every single poll including FOX NEWS has Obama up in the state where he saved the auto industry. No one thinks he will not win OHIO but these ass clown idiots will start conspiracy theories one after the next and IGNORE THE FACTS LIKE EVERY DAMN POLL SHOWING ROMNEY LOSING THE MOST IMPORTANT STATE
THAT NO REPUBLICAN HAS EVER WON THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT.

[frerottenextelway]

Point was every single poll including FOX NEWS has Obama up in the state where he saved the auto industry. No one thinks he will not win OHIO but these ass clown idiots will start conspiracy theories one after the next and IGNORE THE FACTS LIKE EVERY DAMN POLL SHOWING ROMNEY LOSING THE MOST IMPORTANT STATE
THAT NO REPUBLICAN HAS EVER WON THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT.

Haha, I'm pretty sure we agree on everything. My point w this post just that 1 in 5 have already voted, and those votes obviously aren't going to change, and that lead makes this state pretty much off the table.

I'm sure there will be "acorn" type stories, despite them going all out to keep black people from voting. F_ck them tho, they're a dying breed.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I'm sure there will be "acorn" type stories, despite them going all out to keep black people from voting. F_ck them tho, they're a dying breed.

Yep.

In fact, even Karl "Turd Blossom" Rove admitted "we don't have enough angry, uneducated white males" or words to that effect.

:D

[DBruleU]

Poll is D+4. Which really isn't that bad. Romney is carrying Independents more than Obama is, and this poll also has Romney only getting 5% of the dem vote and Obama getting 11% of the GOP voters. Not likely...like at all.

Last months PPP poll had Romney up 1 with I's but this month he gained up to 5 points with I's. But somehow Obama gained in GOP support?

In 08 McCain got more D's than Obama got R's. Really hard to imagine with the way things are going that Obama has increased his GOP support. We're supposed to believe according to PPP that the reverse is happening now? When Obama basically won based on voter turnout in 08?

BTW - the GOP has increased their absentee ballot massively since 08.

Ohio shocker: GOP closes early voting gap, boosting Romney (http://washingtonexaminer.com/ohio-shocker-gop-closes-early-voting-gap-boosting-romney/article/2509838#.UHoQxVE-dxc)

[frerottenextelway]

Poll is D+4. Which really isn't that bad. Romney is carrying Independents more than Obama is, and this poll also has Romney only getting 5% of the dem vote and Obama getting 11% of the GOP voters. Not likely...like at all.

Last months PPP poll had Romney up 1 with I's but this month he gained up to 5 points with I's. But somehow Obama gained in GOP support?

In 08 McCain got more D's than Obama got R's. Really hard to imagine with the way things are going that Obama has increased his GOP support. We're supposed to believe according to PPP that the reverse is happening now? When Obama basically won based on voter turnout in 08?

BTW - the GOP has increased their absentee ballot massively since 08.

Ohio shocker: GOP closes early voting gap, boosting Romney (http://washingtonexaminer.com/ohio-shocker-gop-closes-early-voting-gap-boosting-romney/article/2509838#.UHoQxVE-dxc)

Unskewed polls!!! The reason most polls don't weigh on party, is because party is like favorite color, it changes. PPP weighs on race, age, and gender, things that ya know, usually don't change on the news cycle!

[DBruleU]

Also, if Romney were getting the same support as Obama is in this poll (90/9) then it would be a 2 point race. History tells us that Romney will get same support or better.

[frerottenextelway]

Also, if Romney were getting the same support as Obama is in this poll (90/9) then it would be a 2 point race. History tells us that Romney will get same support or better.

Don't feel like working out the math, but if you're down 52 points with 20 percent already in, you have to win by an amount that is never ever going to happen (10%?)

[nyuk nyuk]

More like providing laugh fodder for discussion forums everywhere - just like always, DramaLlama.

That must be why your intellectually impeccable and information-rich posts leave us all stuttering and unable to respond. :)

[nyuk nyuk]

I'm sure there will be "acorn" type stories, despite them going all out to keep black people from voting. F_ck them tho, they're a dying breed.

Except that Acorn was busted so badly they went bankrupt. You act as if it was all a joke.

If you think blacks are so poor and stupid that a $4 or less voter ID will keep them disenfranchised, then you don't have a very high view of black people.

If, also, you think state ID keeps them down, then you also think that it's an act of oppression to require ID to enter federal government buildings, get on commercial airplanes, apply for jobs, cash checks, get library cards, and last but not least, attend Barack Obama speeches.

:yayaya:

I can only hope your nickname is sarcastic.

[barryr]

I'll be glad when it's all over and lonestar, barryr, EpicNyuk and the rest of the brownie hounds of the rich and shameless crawl back under their rocks.

Oh no, butt hurt lately racist one? A sewer is more a fit for your habitat :egbgb:

[nyuk nyuk]

What reality do you live in where EVERY SINGLE POLL OUT THERE SHOWS OBAMA WINNING IN OHIO ?

idiot

Rasmussen (one of the most accurate in 2008) shows them a statistical tie, with Obama ahead by 1% as of Thursday.

[SoCalBronco]

It appears PPP might be off. Stats suggest only about 5.5% of the vote in Ohio have been cast.

[lonestar]

Romney-Ryan ticket hits Obama admin on Ohio made tanks
Posted on October 14, 2012 by Conservative Byte

The Romney-Ryan campaign has seized on Vice President Joe Biden’s assertion during Thursday’s debate that Ohio-made M1 Abrams tanks are no longer needed. The GOP ticket began running radio ads and making automated phone calls in Ohio on Friday featuring the vice president’s quote, according to Republican state communications director Chris Maloney.

“The military says we need a smaller, leaner Army. We need more special forces. …We don’t need more M1 tanks. What we need is more UAVs,” Biden said while he sat opposite of Republican vice presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan, at the debate in Lexington, Ky. The vice president’s words, which broke no new policy ground, were a reminder of the Pentagon’s decision this year to halt the production line from 2014 to 2017 as the vehicle is redesigned.

Ohio is home to the only tank production site in the country, and M1 tanks were spotlighted during Ryan’s first joint appearance with Mitt Romney after the vice presidential debate.




Read more: http://conservativebyte.com/2012/10/romney-ryan-ticket-hits-obama-admin-on-ohio-made-tanks/#ixzz29J4ClO00

Yep all is lost in OH10.

[nyuk nyuk]

It appears PPP might be off. Stats suggest only about 5.5% of the vote in Ohio have been cast.

PPP is known to lean left, and McCain also had a huge lead in early voting in several states. It's not even a story. This means dick.

[SoCalBronco]

PPP is known to lean left, and McCain also had a huge lead in early voting in several states. It's not even a story. This means dick.

Tom Jensen at PPP is a pretty well respected pollster although yes they are used primarily by the Dems. Regardless...the data for early votes cast do not measure up with 19%. It appears to be around 6% instead.

[barryr]

In states that go democrat, usually the big cites go democrat and the remainder go republican. It all basically comes down to who votes more.

[nyuk nyuk]

In states that go democrat, usually the big cites go democrat and the remainder go republican. It all basically comes down to who votes more.

Turds cluster in toilets. Core, Democrat-run cities are notorious for being run-down. Bad liberal policy much?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

In states that go democrat, usually the big cites go democrat and the remainder go republican.

That's because most of the educated and intelligent people live in cities while ignorant rubes like you and your BF EpicDramaNyuk live in BFE.

[lonestar]

In states that go democrat, usually the big cites go democrat and the remainder go republican. It all basically comes down to who votes more.

Actually more like who votes twice or three times. Nobamas poll workers seem to have that down pat.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Actually more like who votes twice or three times. Nobamas poll workers seem to have that down pat.

Only if you listen to the professional liars who populate the right-wing media.

Meanwhile, here in reality, yours is the party with the documented history of actual voter fraud.

Just one more example of your despicable hypocrisy.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

“One important change in the latest numbers: President Obama now leads among independents,” in the states surveyed, Purple pollsters wrote. It’s the first time Obama has led independent swing-state voters in seven months, the pollsters wrote.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/swing-states-poll-obama-lead.php


President Obama leads Mitt Romney in a new poll (http://www.purplestrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/PurplePoll-9.21.12.pdf) of 12 key swing states.

Obama leads 49 percent to 44 percent in the poll from Purple Strategies.

The poll is a combined sample of likely voters in Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin, and also shows good news for Obama in over-sampled results for Ohio, Virginia, Florida and Colorado. Last month’s Purple Poll (http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/swing-state-poll-romney-improves-ryan.php) showed Romney with a slight edge in swing states, 47 percent to Obama’s 46 percent.

“One important change in the latest numbers: President Obama now leads among independents,” in the states surveyed, Purple pollsters wrote. It’s the first time Obama has led independent swing-state voters in seven months, the pollsters wrote.

[lonestar]

Most likely cartoon boi has regurgitated something else. Double trouble cauldrons bubbles.

[DBruleU]

“One important change in the latest numbers: President Obama now leads among independents,” in the states surveyed, Purple pollsters wrote. It’s the first time Obama has led independent swing-state voters in seven months, the pollsters wrote.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/swing-states-poll-obama-lead.php

Your three links are from Sept, Sept, and August! Well before Romney showed the nation that he isn't the caricature that Obama portrayed him as in his negative ads.

[W*GS]

Your three links are from Sept, Sept, and August! Well before Romney showed the nation that he isn't the caricature that Obama portrayed him as in his negative ads.

You mean before Massachusetts Mitt cleverly kidnapped and hid Teabagger Mitt and took his place.

[DBruleU]

You mean before Massachusetts Mitt cleverly kidnapped and hid Teabagger Mitt and took his place.

Sure. Before that.

[pricejj]

The PPP poll is completely false, and is a blatant attempt to misinform or demoralize voters.

Here's a few facts:
1. Voter registration is down 20% in Cuyahoga County (Obama's only hope) since 2008. That number will not change because the voter deadline has past.
2. Total absentee ballots returned in Cuyahoga County = 31,000 (which is about 5% of expected voter turnout in that county).
3. Total absentee ballots requested in Ohio = 1.1 million (29% Democrat, 23.5% Republican).
4. Total number of people who have cast an early vote (in person), in Ohio: 56,000 (which is about 1% of expected total of votes cast in Ohio).

[pricejj]

1. What PPP did was to take the total amount of absentee ballots requested, so far, in Ohio (1.1M), and calculate that that was 18% to 19% of the total expected voter turnout...so far so good.

2. They then looked at the percentage breakdown of voter affiliation who have requested absentee ballots (not who have actually returned ballots, which is only about 5% of the total expected vote):
Democrat: 29%
Republican: 24%
Independent: 47%

3. The Obama campaign (which is what PPP really is), then added both Democrat and Independent absentee ballot requests together (29% + 47% = 76%)...and falsely claimed that they ALL voted for Obama. When, in fact, 95% of absentee ballots haven't been returned.

4. If you didn't catch it, basically PPP is claiming that every single independent absentee voter who has requested a ballot in Ohio has already submitted a vote for Obama.

[TonyR]

...if you were a low-information voter and watched the first debate with one man with energy and ideas (however deceptive) against a president who looked like he was making small talk with a bore at a cocktail party, you'd pick the challenger yourself. It turns out it wasn't the economy (it's been perking up lately) that's become the main challenge for Obama. Nor the Electoral College. Nor a motivated, radical GOP base. It turns out that the main challenge for Obama's re-election in the final stretch is Obama himself. http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/obamas-slide-continues.html

[DBruleU]

The Romney Campaign Shredded A New Poll That Shows Obama Destroying Mitt Romney Among Early Voters

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-romney-early-vote-poll-voters-reuters-ipsos-2012-10#ixzz29O2Spydu

"First and foremost, only 5% of early voting has completed," Beeson wrote in the memo. "In 2008, nearly 16,000,000 votes were cast before Election Day in the swing states. So far this cycle, just over 950,000 votes have been cast – or 6.01%. Therefore, 94% of all early votes have not even been cast yet. To claim a “big advantage” based off of a phase that’s just 6% complete is almost as absurd as predicting the outcome of a baseball game after the second out."

The Romney campaign has a point. Reuters only found 361 voters that had already cast a ballot out of the 6,704 people sampled in total. When broken down by swing state, too, that sample crumbles to a small handful of voters.

Reuters/Ipsos' defense is that the poll lines up with its credibility interval, which it uses to determine the accuracy of polls. Still, it's difficult to make a broad determination on the all-important battleground states with samples of as few as two people in some states. Ipsos didn't respond to an immediate request for furhter comment.

"Despite what this poll has claimed, it is clear that Governor Romney is poised to over-perform among those who will vote before Election Day," Beeson wrote.