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gunns
09-19-2012, 06:04 AM
This should piss off SoCal. I've never bashed Cutler for what happened here in Denver but what he has done since being in Chicago over time tends to support that he is a petulant jerk and will never be the superstar he thinks he is.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-chicago-bears-qb-will-never-be-the-superstar-he-thinks-he-is-091812

shovelpass#30
09-19-2012, 06:14 AM
Wow. This is how he acts on radio? Can you imagine what he's like in the locker room?

“This is just educated guesses at best. Correct?’’ Cutler said. “That’s the problem. These are guesses. You’re guessing. Admit that you’re guessing."

No, Silverman said.

“Admit yes, you are guessing. You’re guessing. How can you say that you aren’t guessing?’’

Waddle once tried to explain to Cutler what he wished the offense would do, and Cutler said: “Guess what. Guess what. Guess what. Guess what. I don’t care when you’re happy. Doesn’t matter to me. It’s not important. It’s not going to affect how we’re going to win football games. Your opinion is not going to matter to us.’’

Meck77
09-19-2012, 06:16 AM
It blows me away that some people are just starting to realize this.

You can analyze/bs all the X's and O's about Cutler but it's painfully obvious he cannot lead. He has never won a championship at any level. Not even high school. That was the big knock on him coming out of college. He just doesn't have the ability to rally a team around him. When the team drug his sorry ass to the NFC champ game and needed him most he flaked.

Inkana7
09-19-2012, 06:20 AM
It blows me away that some people are just starting to realize this.

You can analyze/bs all the X's and O's about Cutler but it's painfully obvious he cannot lead. He has never won a championship at any level. Not even high school. That was the big knock on him coming out of college. He just doesn't have the ability to rally a team around him. When the team drug his sorry ass to the NFC champ game and needed him most he flaked.

**** Jay, but he did win state in high school.

Vegas_Bronco
09-19-2012, 06:36 AM
When clay matthews owns you...you may want to adjust your protection. This was poor decision by the the coaching staff and a good reason why lovie needs to be replaced. Bears are terrible when playing from behind and their coaching staff does not make ingame adjustments well at all.

TheReverend
09-19-2012, 06:40 AM
When clay matthews owns you...you may want to adjust your protection. This was poor decision by the the coaching staff and a good reason why lovie needs to be replaced. Bears are terrible when playing from behind and their coaching staff does not make ingame adjustments well at all.

This + a few straight up bad throws + Marshall drop = lose to last year's best team in the league (at least reg season)

TonyR
09-19-2012, 06:45 AM
He's an elite talent, but agree that he'll probably never be an "elite NFL QB".

Ray Finkle
09-19-2012, 06:47 AM
In before Socal's defense!

wow....that can be used on almost every thread....

Inkana7
09-19-2012, 07:11 AM
Also this: http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2012/09/a-very-jay-cutler-encounter-with-jay-cutler.html

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-19-2012, 07:16 AM
Jay Cutler is a cat.

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2012/07/is-jay-cutler-really-a-cat-in-disguise-a-ksk-investigation.html

fontaine
09-19-2012, 07:22 AM
That first round draft class really looks abismal about now.

Vince Young: Busted out of numerous teams and is now broke.
Matt Leinhart: Busted out of Arizona, has gotten multiple injuries and is purely a backup.
Jay Cutler: 29 years old, interception machine and assclown crybaby.

Kaylore
09-19-2012, 07:26 AM
Gonna go ahead and post this here

Cutler flips off grandma bears fan who wanted to only say "hello." (http://blindgossip.com/?p=35876)

Rock Chalk
09-19-2012, 07:27 AM
This + a few straight up bad throws + Marshall drop = lose to last year's best team in the league (at least reg season)

Elite QBs adjust their own protection.

Meck77
09-19-2012, 07:48 AM
**** Jay, but he did win state in high school.

Ok. I stand corrected. 3A ball. They probably had a deaf and blind schools in their division. Just a joke folks! Relax....

Gort
09-19-2012, 08:12 AM
This should piss off SoCal. I've never bashed Cutler for what happened here in Denver but what he has done since being in Chicago over time tends to support that he is a petulant jerk and will never be the superstar he thinks he is.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-chicago-bears-qb-will-never-be-the-superstar-he-thinks-he-is-091812

but what about all of that evidence that he's a good-hearted, wholesome young man that was simply misunderstood in Denver and Chicago...?

ha ha. just kidding. there is no such evidence. ;)

http://rbgmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Cutler-middle-finger1-e1336114913433.jpg

Tombstone RJ
09-19-2012, 08:46 AM
Gonna go ahead and post this here

Cutler flips off grandma bears fan who wanted to only say "hello." (http://blindgossip.com/?p=35876)

stay classy jay!

Los Broncos
09-19-2012, 08:53 AM
stay classy jay!

Damn what a douche.

bronco militia
09-19-2012, 08:55 AM
Gonna go ahead and post this here

Cutler flips off grandma bears fan who wanted to only say "hello." (http://blindgossip.com/?p=35876)

theres no way that could happen?!?!?!

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Cutlerfinger.jpg

Rohirrim
09-19-2012, 08:57 AM
Gonna go ahead and post this here

Cutler flips off grandma bears fan who wanted to only say "hello." (http://blindgossip.com/?p=35876)

Damn! That's nice. Why doesn't the league fine him $50 thou for that one?

Smiling Assassin27
09-19-2012, 08:58 AM
Brian Dawkins made the point that the worst thing that has come out of this episode is that the locker room is officially fractured. It's not broken but, like a bone when it's fractured, its integrity is compromised and, absent a doctor setting it properly, will get to the point that it does break. And nothing derails a season like a fractured locker room.

Hey, Cutler brings it on himself through his attitude and arrogance. Like I said--fool's gold. Or maybe just 'fool'.

Pick Six
09-19-2012, 09:03 AM
I thought that, MAYBE, we jumped the gun on getting rid of Cutler. I thought, MAYBE, he would become an efficient leader. I thought, MAYBE, we would regret losing him. I'm still waiting, on that...Ha!

Traveler
09-19-2012, 09:03 AM
theres no way that could happen?!?!?!

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Cutlerfinger.jpg

Looks very "suspect" in this pic.

SoCalBronco
09-19-2012, 09:11 AM
So he's not an elite QB because.......he's willing to argue his point on the radio and challenge the media's status as all knowing? There's no doubt he didn't play well but I have no problem with him or anyone being combative with the media.

Yawn. Wake me up when there is something done that is actually important.

BowlenBall
09-19-2012, 09:12 AM
My new favorite internet meme: Smokin' Jay Cutler

http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com/

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maifxzfDqJ1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mad2gpEM1B1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
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http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maczzgtsmq1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maczbxUCIx1rge9rdo1_400.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macyuknQv01rge9rdo1_500.jpg

Heyneck
09-19-2012, 09:14 AM
http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/cutty-main.jpg

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Pregnant+Kristin+Cavallari+Jay+Cutler+Out+VPuZOf7X s6il.jpg

bronco militia
09-19-2012, 09:15 AM
bwhaha...nice work hayneck

Tombstone RJ
09-19-2012, 09:19 AM
My new favorite internet meme: Smokin' Jay Cutler

http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com/

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maifxzfDqJ1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mad2gpEM1B1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mad2vc4ybC1rge9rdo1_400.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maczzgtsmq1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maczbxUCIx1rge9rdo1_400.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macyuknQv01rge9rdo1_500.jpg

lol

Chris
09-19-2012, 09:20 AM
He's an elite talent, but agree that he'll probably never be an "elite NFL QB".

He's an elite physical talent (arm) with a below average football brain.

nyuk nyuk
09-19-2012, 09:21 AM
Seeing thread title I knew this was about Cutler. He's always been an egotistical jerk. The last straw for me was the Rick Reilly piece about how he treated Elway. Unbelievable.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6017986

Smiling Assassin27
09-19-2012, 09:22 AM
being combative with the media.

The media is irrelevant. He was combative with his teammate, which says more about Jay Cutler than some stupid radio show interview. The radio/media problems stem from his arrogance, bumping the guy that has your blind side in anger stems from a lack of accountability. Elite quarterbacks are nothing if not accountable.

nyuk nyuk
09-19-2012, 09:22 AM
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Pregnant+Kristin+Cavallari+Jay+Cutler+Out+VPuZOf7X s6il.jpg

I'm surprised he'd stoop so low. He forgot to toss one piece out, though.

Himself.

I feel sorry for the girl.

Tombstone RJ
09-19-2012, 09:25 AM
He's an elite physical talent (arm) with a below average football brain.

the thing is Cutler is smart, that is, he can learn and execute any offense. He's physically gifted & can make all the throws and escape, evade the rush. He's got the tools to be a great NFL QB. It's just that he's immature. I don't know how else to explain it. He's never grown up and he doesn't really appear to be maturing as a man, as a leader, nor as an NFL QB which by default is the leader of the offense and of the team.

but, he is entertaining so he's got that going for him...

Heyneck
09-19-2012, 09:29 AM
http://purplejesus.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/jay-cutler-baby.jpg

http://nflhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/298434_10152112152440068_1836201912_n.jpg

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/jay-cutler-dominates.jpg

lonestar
09-19-2012, 09:46 AM
When clay matthews owns you...you may want to adjust your protection. This was poor decision by the the coaching staff and a good reason why lovie needs to be replaced. Bears are terrible when playing from behind and their coaching staff does not make ingame adjustments well at all.

well now another cutlet apologist.. who would have thought..

lonestar
09-19-2012, 09:49 AM
He's an elite talent, but agree that he'll probably never be an "elite NFL QB".

90% talented body, 10% loser head..

the guys is screwed up in the head JUST like Jeff George..

who had gotten just a few more coaches fired than cutlet has so far..

anyone want to guess if he breaks JGs record?

Pontius Pirate
09-19-2012, 10:16 AM
Jake Plummer called it years ago when he called Cutler the next Jeff George.

Jake Plummer is a psychic handball god.

broncocalijohn
09-19-2012, 10:16 AM
**** Jay, but he did win state in high school.

Thanks Al Bundy!

I love this quote in the article...
Marc Silverman, the other co-host of the show Tuesday, said he thought Cutler was letting things bug him during the game, such as bad blocking, dropped passes, play calling.

“This is just educated guesses at best. Correct?’’ Cutler said. “That’s the problem. These are guesses. You’re guessing. Admit that you’re guessing."

No, Silverman said.

“Admit yes, you are guessing. You’re guessing. How can you say that you aren’t guessing?’’


First, Cutler should admit to that and then add his horrible ints (3 of 4 were on him). Instead, he wants to be confrontational. Only thing I don't agree on from the article is that he is a journeyman QB. He could be based on attitude but he is better than that description. He is far from franchise, that is for sure. Frown Cannon with the lip, love it.

Kaylore
09-19-2012, 10:18 AM
My new favorite internet meme: Smokin' Jay Cutler

http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com/

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maifxzfDqJ1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mad2gpEM1B1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mad2vc4ybC1rge9rdo1_400.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maczzgtsmq1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maczbxUCIx1rge9rdo1_400.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macyuknQv01rge9rdo1_500.jpg
Honestly if he really did that, he would be my favorite QB ever.

ColoradoDarin
09-19-2012, 10:29 AM
Honestly if he really did that, he would be my favorite QB ever.

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55CrushEm
09-19-2012, 10:33 AM
Seeing thread title I knew this was about Cutler. He's always been an egotistical jerk. The last straw for me was the Rick Reilly piece about how he treated Elway. Unbelievable.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6017986

Love the part about John Lynch slapping the phone out of his hands. Haha.

DENVERDUI55
09-19-2012, 10:36 AM
He even flips off like (insert escobar eye tape remark) by flying his thumb out.

Gort
09-19-2012, 11:10 AM
from now on, whenever i see a pic of Cutler being Cutler, i'm going to hear this phrase in my head, "DOOOOONNNNTTTTT CAAAARRRREEEEE."

Friend is in a bar in Chicago during the off-season. He goes to the bathroom and sees Jay Cutler, hat on backwards, taking a piss at the urinal. So the guy starts going to the bathroom and says, “Hey, I’m a huge fan, also went to Vanderbilt… ”

Jay throws his head back, still pissing, eyes half-closed because he’s drunk, interrupts him with, “DOOOONNNNTTTTTT CAAAAAARRRREEEEEE.”

http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2012/09/a-very-jay-cutler-encounter-with-jay-cutler.html

Broncomutt
09-19-2012, 11:16 AM
I'd forgotten about him getting thrown in the swimming pool at the pro-bowl. :spit:

Tombstone RJ
09-19-2012, 11:26 AM
from now on, whenever i see a pic of Cutler being Cutler, i'm going to hear this phrase in my head, "DOOOOONNNNTTTTT CAAAARRRREEEEE."



http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2012/09/a-very-jay-cutler-encounter-with-jay-cutler.html

so funny, I can see it now, with a cig in his mouth.

broncocalijohn
09-19-2012, 11:28 AM
from now on, whenever i see a pic of Cutler being Cutler, i'm going to hear this phrase in my head, "DOOOOONNNNTTTTT CAAAARRRREEEEE."

Quote:
Friend is in a bar in Chicago during the off-season. He goes to the bathroom and sees Jay Cutler, hat on backwards, taking a piss at the urinal. So the guy starts going to the bathroom and says, “Hey, I’m a huge fan, also went to Vanderbilt… ”

Jay throws his head back, still pissing, eyes half-closed because he’s drunk, interrupts him with, “DOOOONNNNTTTTTT CAAAAAARRRREEEEEE.”



http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2012/09/a-very-jay-cutler-encounter-with-jay-cutler.html

WHo knows if true but I will say bull****. Who would ever admit that they are a "huge fan" of Cutler. Well, besides SoCal.

milehighJC
09-19-2012, 11:34 AM
I just dont care about Cutler anymore. He is not a Bronco, therefore I care what he does only when he plays against the Broncos. Then I want him to fail miserably.

Having said that, his now long history of being a jerk adds a little enjoyment when he fails. Im not talking about confronting the media, there are plenty of jerks in the media too, and I get a kick out of them getting theirs too. But the stories about Elway, Lynch and others (especially how he treats his "fans") make it perfectly clear that he is an douche. He is entitled to be an douche if he wants, but no-one (including himself) should be surprised when he is not well liked, and at some level it will eventually come home to roost in his wallet. His choice. I dont care.

IMHO, Im glad he is no longer here. I believe winning requires talent and execution, but winning it all requires leadership. I dont see anything that supports him as a leader. Good riddance, glad to be on another path.

lonestar
09-19-2012, 11:39 AM
WHo knows if true but I will say bull****. Who would ever admit that they are a "huge fan" of Cutler. Well, besides SoCal.

This obviously happened before they had a chance to meet or know him.

Hey maybe it was his buttbuddy BM.

The bRomance is strong between those two.

R8R H8R
09-19-2012, 11:56 AM
He's an elite physical talent (arm) with a below average football brain.

Exactly what they said about Jeff George. Thus, the cliche' "Million $ arm,
$.02 brain."

Ray Finkle
09-19-2012, 12:23 PM
from now on, whenever i see a pic of Cutler being Cutler, i'm going to hear this phrase in my head, "DOOOOONNNNTTTTT CAAAARRRREEEEE."



http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2012/09/a-very-jay-cutler-encounter-with-jay-cutler.html

I've been saying it all day....it is fun!

fdf
09-19-2012, 12:23 PM
It blows me away that some people are just starting to realize this.

You can analyze/bs all the X's and O's about Cutler but it's painfully obvious he cannot lead. He has never won a championship at any level. Not even high school. That was the big knock on him coming out of college. He just doesn't have the ability to rally a team around him. When the team drug his sorry ass to the NFC champ game and needed him most he flaked.

Trading him when we did was brilliant. We got huge value for an talented loser before everyone else figured out what a head case he is. Then McDaniels goes and blows all those draft picks. ARGHH. Pretty much a net wash for the franchise but a huge missed opportunity.

I'm glad someone else is running the show now and that Cutler is not our QB.

gunns
09-19-2012, 12:47 PM
When clay matthews owns you...you may want to adjust your protection. This was poor decision by the the coaching staff and a good reason why lovie needs to be replaced. Bears are terrible when playing from behind and their coaching staff does not make ingame adjustments well at all.

I agree and that OL has been a problem for several years now and they play the "Shanahan on defense" with it by throwing garbage at it. But that is besides the point for Cutlers behavior. I never jumped on him for the Bowlen/McD thing but before that I hated how he threw his teammates under the bus without addressing his own mistakes. Seems he hasn't shaken that juvenile behavior either.

Agamemnon
09-19-2012, 12:55 PM
So he's not an elite QB because.......he's willing to argue his point on the radio and challenge the media's status as all knowing? There's no doubt he didn't play well but I have no problem with him or anyone being combative with the media.

Yawn. Wake me up when there is something done that is actually important.

Someone could post a photo of Cutler strangling a baby, and you would say the baby deserved it. It's bizarre...

NUB
09-19-2012, 01:06 PM
Cutler also said this in the radio spot:

"Offensively, it starts with me. I've got to play better."

I suggest giving it a listen before jumping to the conclusions of the media who have repeatedly overblown every little thing about this player. When Cutler sits on a bench he's pouting. When Cutler gets in the face of a teammate he is a poor leader.

QBs have always gotten on their teammates. Dan Marino was infamous for being a huge douchebag in the huddle and Manning is well known for yelling at his teammates on and off the field. It's the most difficult and stressful position in all of sports. When Cutler pushed his lineman the guy laughed. This turnstile of a blocker just let Cutler take clean shot after shot to the back. The QB can't have anything to say about that? I'm calling bull. Cutler is an angsty player for sure, but he's totally right to be pissed at his blockers if all they can do is hold a three-man rush for two seconds.

~Crash~
09-19-2012, 01:07 PM
This should piss off SoCal. I've never bashed Cutler for what happened here in Denver but what he has done since being in Chicago over time tends to support that he is a petulant jerk and will never be the superstar he thinks he is.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-chicago-bears-qb-will-never-be-the-superstar-he-thinks-he-is-091812

See I was thinking you was talking that loud mouth crybaby Rivers...:peace:

~Crash~
09-19-2012, 01:09 PM
Cutler who the **** is that ?

Miss I.
09-19-2012, 01:35 PM
So he's not an elite QB because.......he's willing to argue his point on the radio and challenge the media's status as all knowing? There's no doubt he didn't play well but I have no problem with him or anyone being combative with the media.

Yawn. Wake me up when there is something done that is actually important.

Okay let me play devil's advocate, what does make Jay an elite QB in your estimation?

and by that I don't mean just that he as the potential to be one, a great arm, yada yada yada. I will give you that he has POTENTIAL, but IS HE ONE RIGHT NOW? If you say yes he is now, then why and what has he exhibited in his career to justify that?

See when I think elite, I think Brady, Manning (even Eli), and Brees. They have actually won stuff (not just gone to a bull**** probowl that frankly should have gone to Rivers, who arguably has more right to be considered elite than Jay) along with crazy numbers. I think it has to be both skill and victories or it's just not there. Jay doesn't have the playoffs and he is all the bad of Favre without the superbowl and other victories. He could be great, but he isn't yet and maybe never if he continues behaving like a spoilt child.

And he does behave like an ass fairly consistently. Not saying all the stories about him are valid (some sound a little sketchy to me, the grandma one I would question and frankly the dude saying hi to him in the toilet deserved the disdain..it's weird to talk to someone while they are peeing) but there's enough with frequent poor treatment of his teammates to merit wondering if about his ability to grow up and whether he can be effective. What teammates will support him if he keeps dumping on them in public?

barryr
09-19-2012, 01:38 PM
Cutler is great when things are going great, but when things go south, Cutler spends more time finger pointing than anyone else. It's not hard to see why other players do not see him as a leader.

Gort
09-19-2012, 01:40 PM
See when I think elite, I think Brady, Manning (even Eli), and Brees. They have actually won stuff (not just gone to a bull**** probowl that frankly should have gone to Rivers, who arguably has more right to be considered elite than Jay) along with crazy numbers.

http://www.opus-photography.net/animatedgifs/RodgersSmug.gif

Pontius Pirate
09-19-2012, 02:24 PM
http://l.yimg.com/eb/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/sorority_boys/harland_williams/sorority2.jpg

Miss I.
09-19-2012, 02:33 PM
http://www.opus-photography.net/animatedgifs/RodgersSmug.gif

obviously Rodgers but if I listed every single elite QB, past and current we'd be here all day. The question is really whether Jay could be considered elite at this point. I'd say no.

Kaylore
09-19-2012, 02:47 PM
SoCal thinks Cutler is elite because he was drafted by Mike Shanahan.

Gort
09-19-2012, 02:52 PM
SoCal thinks Cutler is elite because he was drafted by Mike Shanahan.

Cutler? elite?? huh?

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/893086/ryan_medium.gif

Ironlung
09-19-2012, 04:13 PM
lulz @ smokin' Jay

lonestar
09-19-2012, 04:20 PM
SoCal thinks Cutler is elite because he was drafted by Mike Shanahan.

so socal is a Tanahan guy what is he a cousin or justt a love child..

Miss I.
09-19-2012, 04:47 PM
so socal is a Tanahan guy what is he a cousin or justt a love child..

Mike Shanahan is a much of a Bronco as any other face of this franchise so I don't get the Mike bull****. Yes, he needed to go because the decisions being made were not getting it done anymore, but he has more than earned some respect for the things he did achieve in Denver and in San Fran.

Cutler I get, smacking down Mike makes no sense to me.

lonestar
09-19-2012, 04:53 PM
Mike Shanahan is a much of a Bronco as any other face of this franchise so I don't get the Mike bull****. Yes, he needed to go because the decisions being made were not getting it done anymore, but he has more than earned some respect for the things he did achieve in Denver and in San Fran.

Cutler I get, smacking down Mike makes no sense to me.

I'm not smacking mikey down just putting the facts out there for the few morons that still do not get it.. that while he did good for a couple of years he hurt the franchise since then with his EGO..

I'll never dispute getting the Lombardi's was great. being in the toilet talent wise each year getting a bit worse because of his personnel decisions almost wipes that out..

Miss I.
09-19-2012, 05:01 PM
I'm not smacking mikey down just putting the facts out there for the few morons that still do not get it.. that while he did good for a couple of years he hurt the franchise since then with his EGO..

I'll never dispute getting the Lombardi's was great. being in the toilet talent wise each year getting a bit worse because of his personnel decisions almost wipes that out..

Good for a couple of years? What? Can anyone else please jump in here and detail Shanahan's history with the Broncos. If I am not mistaken he had a history that went back further than just the HC gig. And I am not even talking about his gig in SF. the bad years do not remotely come close to eradicating his contributions to this organization. But yes, it was time to change, unfortunately we ended up with a total ****wit who was not remotely ready for a HC gig.

I am not talking about building the guy a shrine, but he did more than just a couple of good things. Jay Cutler did a couple of good things, won a few games, threw for a lot of yards, while also throwing interceptions and acting like a giant asshat. Mike Shanahan and Jay Cutler are nowhere in the same arena. Mike will always be a Bronco to me, while Jay will just be that guy who used to play here once and also a toolbag.

lonestar
09-19-2012, 05:04 PM
Good for a couple of years? What? Can anyone else please jump in here and detail Shanahan's history with the Broncos. If I am not mistaken he had a history that went back further than just the HC gig. And I am not even talking about his gig in SF. the bad years do not remotely come close to eradicating his contributions to this organization. But yes, it was time to change, unfortunately we ended up with a total ****wit who was not remotely ready for a HC gig.

I am not talking about building the guy a shrine, but he did more than just a couple of good things. Jay Cutler did a couple of good things, won a few games, threw for a lot of yards, while also throwing interceptions and acting like a giant asshat. Mike Shanahan and Jay Cutler are nowhere in the same arena. Mike will always be a Bronco to me, while Jay will just be that guy who used to play here once and also a toolbag.

well I am happy for you..

as for cutlet always been a tool always will be, thought having a kid and getting married (?) might help him but I see he is still a douche bag..

Miss I.
09-19-2012, 05:13 PM
well I am happy for you..

as for cutlet always been a tool always will be, thought having a kid and getting married (?) might help him but I see he is still a douche bag..

Your sarcasm and disrespect for everyone and everything that don't fit in your narrow view of the world is impressive. no really lonestarie, it's impressive.

I don't need you to be happy for me, but it would be nice if you stopped patronizing everyone who doesn't happen to agree with you and your amazingly myopic negative view of the Broncos and the world.

Best of luck to you in life sir.

lonestar
09-19-2012, 05:34 PM
Your sarcasm and disrespect for everyone and everything that don't fit in your narrow view of the world is impressive. no really lonestarie, it's impressive.

I don't need you to be happy for me, but it would be nice if you stopped patronizing everyone who doesn't happen to agree with you and your amazingly myopic negative view of the Broncos and the world.

Best of luck to you in life sir.

Thanks for your good wishes..

BTW it is a football internet forum.. nothing more nothing less.

Let me add Most likely have more time standing in the urinal line at old Bears/Mile high stadium than you do as a fan..
Since I was there day one to see them play..

So I do take MY broncos more personal than some do..

Kaylore
09-19-2012, 05:40 PM
Mike Shanahan was one of the greatest Broncos ever.

lonestar
09-19-2012, 05:45 PM
Mike Shanahan was one of the greatest Broncos ever.

:thumbs:

glad you think so but I'll reserve the greatest part..

he was a great HC for a couple of years.. a really great OC for most of the rest of the time.. and I thank him for helping John to get his rings..

but the rest of the time he probably hurt the team more than helped it..

Unless you count getting fired and forcing Pat to bring in folks that could evaluate talent.. to build the team on..

Now getting back to the topic of the thread cutlet will never be elite.. you heard it here first ahahahahahahahaah

lolcopter
09-19-2012, 05:52 PM
Douchers gonna douche

lolcopter
09-19-2012, 05:53 PM
My new favorite internet meme: Smokin' Jay Cutler

http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com/

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maifxzfDqJ1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mad2gpEM1B1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mad2vc4ybC1rge9rdo1_400.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maczzgtsmq1rge9rdo1_500.jpg
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maczbxUCIx1rge9rdo1_400.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_macyuknQv01rge9rdo1_500.jpg

LOL

menonite
09-19-2012, 05:59 PM
Not as good as Jay Cutler is a cat.

http://i.imgur.com/lWvAq.jpg

baja
09-19-2012, 06:07 PM
Damn! That's nice. Why doesn't the league fine him $50 thou for that one?


Make him buy grandma really really good season tickets and send a limo for her every game.

baja
09-19-2012, 06:09 PM
I thought that, MAYBE, we jumped the gun on getting rid of Cutler. I thought, MAYBE, he would become an efficient leader. I thought, MAYBE, we would regret losing him. I'm still waiting, on that...Ha!

I remember how you got on the precious few of us that were happy to see him run out of town by Bowlen & McD.

baja
09-19-2012, 06:12 PM
So he's not an elite QB because.......he's willing to argue his point on the radio and challenge the media's status as all knowing? There's no doubt he didn't play well but I have no problem with him or anyone being combative with the media.

Yawn. Wake me up when there is something done that is actually important.

Now I better understand how you can hang a dirt bag like Nixon in you tag identity.

You, for some reason, like dirt bags.

BTW are you a defense lawyer?

lonestar
09-19-2012, 06:12 PM
Not as good as Jay Cutler is a cat.

http://i.imgur.com/lWvAq.jpg

I think the hat is on the wrong side?

but kudos for a great pix.

menonite
09-19-2012, 06:18 PM
I wish I could take credit for that but I can't.

errand
09-19-2012, 06:23 PM
Elite QBs adjust their own protection.

...well that explains why he didn't...he's not an elite QB.

lolcopter
09-19-2012, 06:33 PM
A good QB, and a good leader, accepts all the blame and gives away all the credit

Not vice versa

Broncobiv
09-19-2012, 06:43 PM
Clearly I don't know Jay Cutler personally. None of us do.

But God damn...he just seems like the most miserable person on Earth.

maven
09-19-2012, 06:48 PM
I think if Cutler spent more time with Shanny he would've become an elite QB.

As of today, not so much. And it's fun to root against him.

Cito Pelon
09-19-2012, 08:04 PM
Clearly I don't know Jay Cutler personally. None of us do.

But God damn...he just seems like the most miserable person on Earth.

Sure seems that way when things are going against him. Not what you would call an even-keeled guy.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/20223289/jay-cutler-says-he-shouldnt-have-bumped-jmarcus-webb-but-would-have-liked-to-see-more-fire

He's trying to do some damage control, but the thing is he needs to realize the media CAN be his friend if he would just try being charming for once. Instead, it's like he goes out of his way to be a jerk to just about everybody.

baja
09-19-2012, 08:08 PM
Sure seems that way when things are going against him. Not what you would call an even-keeled guy.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/20223289/jay-cutler-says-he-shouldnt-have-bumped-jmarcus-webb-but-would-have-liked-to-see-more-fire

He's trying to do some damage control, but the thing is he needs to realize the media CAN be his friend if he would just try being charming for once. Instead, it's like he goes out of his way to be a jerk to just about everybody.

How can a rookie QB that plays for Denver blow off Elway in a lunch meeting by watching TV.

Shoulda sent him packing right there.

Shanny shoulda said, "Hey I gotta go to the head" and John shoulda said, Ya me too and both walk out to the restaurant leaving Jay to his TV show.

Captain 'Dre
09-19-2012, 08:17 PM
This should piss off SoCal. I've never bashed Cutler for what happened here in Denver but what he has done since being in Chicago over time tends to support that he is a petulant jerk and will never be the superstar he thinks he is.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-chicago-bears-qb-will-never-be-the-superstar-he-thinks-he-is-091812

Seriously, I don't see how anybody can be surprised that Jake Utler is once again rubbing everyone within a 50 mile radius like 20 grain sandpaper.

How many jerkwads have you ever seen "reform"? Utler proves the adage "Once an asshat, always an asshat".

He's insufferable now in Chicago, and he was insufferable during his time with the Broncos. Many here consider Philip Rivers obnoxious, but he's Buddha compared to Jake.

SoCalBronco
09-19-2012, 08:21 PM
Now I better understand how you can hang a dirt bag like Nixon in you tag identity.

You, for some reason, like dirt bags.

BTW are you a defense lawyer?

I am a defense attorney, but not what you might think. I only do workers compensation defense (for an insurance company).

Why do you ask?

Captain 'Dre
09-19-2012, 08:25 PM
http://rbgmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Cutler-middle-finger1-e1336114913433.jpg

Even Jesus thinks Jay Cutler is an ***hole. Ha!

baja
09-19-2012, 08:31 PM
I am a defense attorney, but not what you might think. I only do workers compensation defense (for an insurance company).

Why do you ask?

I was hypothesizing if you were a criminal defense attorney that maybe you being around criminal dirt bags might have over time jaded your judgement about character given you seem to support dirt bag types.

Captain 'Dre
09-19-2012, 08:33 PM
Seeing thread title I knew this was about Cutler. He's always been an egotistical jerk. The last straw for me was the Rick Reilly piece about how he treated Elway. Unbelievable.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6017986

The article says Jay doesn't have any endorsements.

That's a shame, because he'd be the PERFECT sponsor for a company that manufactures douchebags. Ha!

bowtown
09-19-2012, 08:36 PM
This is pretty good:

http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com/

Gutless Drunk
09-19-2012, 08:43 PM
31515

bowtown
09-19-2012, 09:07 PM
.

Cito Pelon
09-19-2012, 09:14 PM
How can a rookie QB that plays for Denver blow off Elway in a lunch meeting by watching TV.

Shoulda sent him packing right there.

Shanny shoulda said, "Hey I gotta go to the head" and John shoulda said, Ya me too and both walk out to the restaurant leaving Jay to his TV show.

https://www.nflplayers.com/About-Us.aspx?section=About-Us&levels=3&lvl2=Community&lvl3=NFL-Players-Charities&menuName=NFL-Players-Charities&parentName=Community

Cutler though is one of only a few current NFL QB's that sponsor a charity organization. He does do his share for the community. That has to be pointed out in any Cutler-bashing thread. He's far from a charming kind of guy, but he's not the most evil guy in the world.

baja
09-19-2012, 09:22 PM
https://www.nflplayers.com/About-Us.aspx?section=About-Us&levels=3&lvl2=Community&lvl3=NFL-Players-Charities&menuName=NFL-Players-Charities&parentName=Community

Cutler though is one of only a few current NFL QB's that sponsor a charity organization. He does do his share for the community. That has to be pointed out in any Cutler-bashing thread. He's far from a charming kind of guy, but he's not the most evil guy in the world.

Maybe he is just misunderstood. Poor baby.

Tombstone RJ
09-19-2012, 09:51 PM
Thanks for your good wishes..

BTW it is a football internet forum.. nothing more nothing less.

Let me add Most likely have more time standing in the urinal line at old Bears/Mile high stadium than you do as a fan..
Since I was there day one to see them play..

So I do take MY broncos more personal than some do..

you're a real legend in your own mind.

Mogulseeker
09-19-2012, 10:27 PM
WE should totally bring in Jay Cutler to back up Brock Osweiler in a couple of years.

broncocalijohn
09-19-2012, 10:30 PM
I am a defense attorney, but not what you might think. I only do workers compensation defense (for an insurance company).

Why do you ask?

because you make excuses for the assholes aka guilty.

broncocalijohn
09-19-2012, 10:37 PM
Thanks for your good wishes..

BTW it is a football internet forum.. nothing more nothing less.

Let me add Most likely have more time standing in the urinal line at old Bears/Mile high stadium than you do as a fan..
Since I was there day one to see them play..

So I do take MY broncos more personal than some do..

Day 1 of the Bears stadium? I believe it. We all had you pegged for an 80 year old but you might be 90 by your account. You show your age way too much here.

Cito Pelon
09-19-2012, 10:51 PM
Maybe he is just misunderstood. Poor baby.

Dude has his good attributes is all I'm saying. I'm not his lawyer, not his publicist, not his BFF, I just think in fairness his charitable contribution has to be brought up in bashing threads.

lonestar
09-19-2012, 10:59 PM
Day 1 of the Bears stadium? I believe it. We all had you pegged for an 80 year old but you might be 90 by your account. You show your age way too much here.

not that old, but by DAY one I meant day one of the broncos games..

although I did get to see many Bears games as a kid..

Miss I.
09-20-2012, 12:28 AM
Well since I am newer to being a fan of football then pretty much everyone here it isn't a shocker that you are a longer fan of the Broncos than I am. I respect that you have watched them longer, what I don't respect is the way you talk to people on here (and no, you aren't the only one I take issue with this on in that regard). You may have more years and more knowledge of the team as a result, but that doesn't equate to it being okay to patronize and degrade those who disagree with you. You remind me of Clint Eastwood telling people to get off his lawn. At any rate, enjoy the games this season. I have no doubt they will be exciting and maybe I will get to see some when I move back to the US, but probably not since I am not going back to Colorado now.

fdf
09-20-2012, 07:44 AM
Day 1 of the Bears stadium? I believe it. We all had you pegged for an 80 year old but you might be 90 by your account. You show your age way too much here.

Give us old guys a break. :) I'm only 61 and I went to Bears games before there was a Denver Broncos.

Ray Finkle
09-20-2012, 07:59 AM
the comments in the one rule:

http://deadspin.com/5944743/jay-cutlers-baby-still-learning-how-to-sulk

Tombstone RJ
09-20-2012, 11:40 AM
Well since I am newer to being a fan of football then pretty much everyone here it isn't a shocker that you are a longer fan of the Broncos than I am. I respect that you have watched them longer, what I don't respect is the way you talk to people on here (and no, you aren't the only one I take issue with this on in that regard). You may have more years and more knowledge of the team as a result, but that doesn't equate to it being okay to patronize and degrade those who disagree with you. You remind me of Clint Eastwood telling people to get off his lawn. At any rate, enjoy the games this season. I have no doubt they will be exciting and maybe I will get to see some when I move back to the US, but probably not since I am not going back to Colorado now.

you staying in the englands?

lonestar
09-20-2012, 12:06 PM
Give us old guys a break. :) I'm only 61 and I went to Bears games before there was a Denver Broncos.

:thumbs:

I remember many games there and how much construction had to be done to make it into a football field..

they used to have a damned fine AAA team watched a lot of future stars in MLB play for and against us..

Although I do have to admit that the hotdogs were also a big attraction. !Booya!

lonestar
09-20-2012, 12:09 PM
Well since I am newer to being a fan of football then pretty much everyone here it isn't a shocker that you are a longer fan of the Broncos than I am. I respect that you have watched them longer, what I don't respect is the way you talk to people on here (and no, you aren't the only one I take issue with this on in that regard). You may have more years and more knowledge of the team as a result, but that doesn't equate to it being okay to patronize and degrade those who disagree with you. You remind me of Clint Eastwood telling people to get off his lawn. At any rate, enjoy the games this season. I have no doubt they will be exciting and maybe I will get to see some when I move back to the US, but probably not since I am not going back to Colorado now.

Actually sorry that you feel that way but this indeed a football forum and it is a lot less defined in smack and chat as others are..

see your rep on this..

broncocalijohn
09-20-2012, 01:51 PM
Give us old guys a break. :) I'm only 61 and I went to Bears games before there was a Denver Broncos.

I was speaking of Soldier stadium. Obviously, Lonstar ws going there before it was called Soldier stadium, to honor the WWI soldiers.

lonestar
09-20-2012, 02:29 PM
I was speaking of Soldier stadium. Obviously, Lonstar ws going there before it was called Soldier stadium, to honor the WWI soldiers.

actually never been there wanted to go once when they were playing the Pack, but the airfare was not available..

Sorry you seem to have a problem respecting your elders..

broncocalijohn
09-20-2012, 02:44 PM
actually never been there wanted to go once when they were playing the Pack, but the airfare was not available..

Sorry you seem to have a problem respecting your elders..

as long as they can hang with the youngins, I am cool with you old farts. If it wasn't for old farts still breathing, us middle agers would then be considered the old farts.

lonestar
09-20-2012, 02:55 PM
as long as they can hang with the youngins, I am cool with you old farts. If it wasn't for old farts still breathing, us middle agers would then be considered the old farts.

I guess you did not get the memos most on here think anyone out of college is an old fart..

bunch of kiddies that are brain dead..

baja
09-20-2012, 03:07 PM
actually never been there wanted to go once when they were playing the Pack, but the airfare was not available..

Sorry you seem to have a problem respecting your elders..

Don't ya know these young uns know everything and have no time for us older more experienced folks. It's the new way.

Should change the board name to "Orange you a punk"

lonestar
09-20-2012, 03:15 PM
Don't ya know these young uns know everything and have no time for us older more experienced folks. It's the new way.

Should change the board name to "Orange you a punk"

:thumbsup:
:thumbsup:
:thumbsup:

BowlenBall
10-01-2012, 08:54 PM
From tonight's game:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Pwixs0m4Pos/UGpQZ-6sX5I/AAAAAAAAMJ4/i7wr0zYFlwE/s400/cutler-not-a-fan-of-tice-10-1-12.gif

baja
10-01-2012, 09:29 PM
Have your people call my people and make an appointment to talk to me. LOL

steeledude
10-01-2012, 09:34 PM
Looks like Cutler is having a pretty good game?? You guys love ****ting all over everything.

broncocalijohn
10-01-2012, 09:47 PM
Looks like Cutler is having a pretty good game?? You guys love ****ting all over everything.

Worse thing is apologist and you on this board.

steeledude
10-01-2012, 09:51 PM
Worse thing is apologist and you on this board.

Even worse is liking the team you have now and forgetting about your ex, right? I mean you guys hold onto this **** like he dumped you on prom night or something. Get over it, he's gone. He's up and down, he'll never be elite is a fair guess at this point--but who gives a crap? Denver squandered his value and got crap in the draft for him, and Chicago seems to have gotten another journeyman at QB.

baja
10-01-2012, 10:01 PM
Even worse is liking the team you have now and forgetting about your ex, right? I mean you guys hold onto this **** like he dumped you on prom night or something. Get over it, he's gone. He's up and down, he'll never be elite is a fair guess at this point--but who gives a crap? Denver squandered his value and got crap in the draft for him, and Chicago seems to have gotten another journeyman at QB.

If you think we talk badly about Cutler you should hear his team mates.

BroncoMan4ever
10-01-2012, 10:05 PM
This should piss off SoCal. I've never bashed Cutler for what happened here in Denver but what he has done since being in Chicago over time tends to support that he is a petulant jerk and will never be the superstar he thinks he is.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jay-cutler-chicago-bears-qb-will-never-be-the-superstar-he-thinks-he-is-091812


Anyone else think that this could be an article about Cam Newton in a few years?

lonestar
10-01-2012, 10:06 PM
Even worse is liking the team you have now and forgetting about your ex, right? I mean you guys hold onto this **** like he dumped you on prom night or something. Get over it, he's gone. He's up and down, he'll never be elite is a fair guess at this point--but who gives a crap? Denver squandered his value and got crap in the draft for him, and Chicago seems to have gotten another journeyman at QB.

not me brother, I saw through this punk almost day one.. never wanted him on the team never wanted him drafted.. was even more pissed at Tanahan for moving up to get this POS Punk..

We did not need a QB as much as we did a DT and more DL help.. throw in some OL guys also..

but we had to have the stronger arm than Elway guy the one QB no one on th staff talked to prior to drafting him..

Almost the ultimate FUBAR for Tanahan but not quite was a top five one though..

menonite
10-01-2012, 10:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/otHsf.png

lonestar
10-01-2012, 10:11 PM
If you think we talk badly about Cutler you should hear his team mates.

:thumbs: but only from the one he is butt buddies with..


wait wait wait that would be no one..

steeledude
10-01-2012, 10:16 PM
not me brother, I saw through this punk almost day one.. never wanted him on the team never wanted him drafted.. was even more pissed at Tanahan for moving up to get this POS Punk..

We did not need a QB as much as we did a DT and more DL help.. throw in some OL guys also..

but we had to have the stronger arm than Elway guy the one QB no one on th staff talked to prior to drafting him..

Almost the ultimate FUBAR for Tanahan but not quite was a top five one though..

I loved Plummer, but I liked the Cutler pick too. I admit I was wrong, but hell, it's time to move on right?

Tombstone RJ
10-01-2012, 10:19 PM
From tonight's game:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Pwixs0m4Pos/UGpQZ-6sX5I/AAAAAAAAMJ4/i7wr0zYFlwE/s400/cutler-not-a-fan-of-tice-10-1-12.gif

Hilarious!

Taco John
10-01-2012, 10:26 PM
I loved Plummer, but I liked the Cutler pick too. I admit I was wrong, but hell, it's time to move on right?

The Cutler pick was the right pick at the time. Plummer had choked himself out of a job and his confidence was destroyed. Jay is definitely a jerk, but we still needed to find a replacement for Cutler, and he was the best option we had at the time.

maher_tyler
10-01-2012, 10:28 PM
I loved Plummer, but I liked the Cutler pick too. I admit I was wrong, but hell, it's time to move on right?

I just think the guy is a raging douche bag and glad he is not on the Broncos whether he wins a SB or not. I don't get where he gets the attitude from. His career QB rating is what, 85? Not exactly something to thump the chest about.

baja
10-01-2012, 10:32 PM
The Cutler pick was the right pick at the time. Plummer had choked himself out of a job and his confidence was destroyed. Jay is definitely a jerk, but we still needed to find a replacement for Cutler, and he was the best option we had at the time.


So when we drafted him to replace himself did that cost another first round pick???

lonestar
10-01-2012, 10:35 PM
I loved Plummer, but I liked the Cutler pick too. I admit I was wrong, but hell, it's time to move on right?

IMO Jake would have been much better with some bigger OL to protect him.. but Tanahan fell in love with cutlet and changed the O to match cutlets style.. pocket passing at least at first.. When they figured out that they were to small to drop back protect then they started rolling cutlet out again..

and well Jake got laid a lot on sundays.. Good for him..

SoCalBronco
10-01-2012, 10:36 PM
Loved the Cutler pick when I saw him in person throwing the ball in his first camp in 2006 and still love it today. I would welcome him back on the team with open arms, I would gladly apologize to him for how he was treated by Satan McD, Joe "Wormtongue" Ellis and the gutless drunk himself , and I wouldn't be opposed to throwing rose petals on the ground as he entered the Valley (if that ever happened). I don't have any problems with his attitude and I never have.

Go Jay!

Missouribronc
10-01-2012, 10:41 PM
Cutler is literally one of the worst teammates in the league.

So glad he is gone.

TDmvp
10-01-2012, 10:41 PM
Loved the Cutler pick when I saw him in person throwing the ball in his first camp in 2006 and still love it today. I would welcome him back on the team with open arms, I would gladly apologize to him for how he was treated by Satan McD, Joe "Wormtongue" Ellis and the gutless drunk himself , and I wouldn't be opposed to throwing rose petals on the ground as he entered the Valley (if that ever happened). I don't have any problems with his attitude and I never have.

Go Jay!


Hilarious! Ditto ... Kid's skill set is insane.

Tombstone RJ
10-01-2012, 10:42 PM
Loved the Cutler pick when I saw him in person throwing the ball in his first camp in 2006 and still love it today. I would welcome him back on the team with open arms, I would gladly apologize to him for how he was treated by Satan McD, Joe "Wormtongue" Ellis and the gutless drunk himself , and I wouldn't be opposed to throwing rose petals on the ground as he entered the Valley (if that ever happened). I don't have any problems with his attitude and I never have.

Go Jay!

DOOOOOONNNNNNNNTTTT CAAAAARRRREEEEEE!!!!

lonestar
10-01-2012, 10:42 PM
The Cutler pick was the right pick at the time. Plummer had choked himself out of a job and his confidence was destroyed. Jay is definitely a jerk, but we still needed to find a replacement for Cutler, and he was the best option we had at the time.

Had the Offense not been changed to suit cutlet I doubt that Jake would have "choked" himself out of a job.. When Kubes left and they hired the new guy that BTW was a home town guy with cutlet. What was Jake supposed to think? New guy has my back, Jake never got along with Tanahan and had Kubes to run interference for him..

Kind a got hung out to dry.. tanahan was smart enough not to pull another griese on Jake because the team was behind him..

He knew it was time.. and decided to go out on his own terms.. we all know the "he is the best guy for the job " was coming.. I would guess that Jake knew it when tanahan did not have the guts to call Jake and tell him they were taking cutlet.. which would have been the class thing to do.. at least have the new OC make the call.. it was not like they had 3 picks in a row to worry about..

SoCalBronco
10-01-2012, 10:47 PM
Had the Offense not been changed to suit cutlet I doubt that Jake would have "choked" himself out of a job.. When Kubes left and they hired the new guy that BTW was a home town guy with cutlet. What was Jake supposed to think? New guy has my back, Jake never got along with Tanahan and had Kubes to run interference for him..

Kind a got hung out to dry.. tanahan was smart enough not to pull another griese on Jake because the team was behind him..

He knew it was time.. and decided to go out on his own terms.. we all know the "he is the best guy for the job " was coming.. I would guess that Jake knew it when tanahan did not have the guts to call Jake and tell him they were taking cutlet.. which would have been the class thing to do.. at least have the new OC make the call.. it was not like they had 3 picks in a row to worry about..

I dont think the offense changed that much. It's still Shanny's offense and we still saw us runnign ZBS and alot of rollout even with Jay (that great throw vs. Arizona was on rollout play). Yes, some more shotgun and dropback stuff, but its in the base offense, just not featured as often earlier.

Balls? Shanny made Plummer. Plummer was nothing without Shanny. He was at the nadir of his career at the end in Arizona and Shanny rescued him and made him into a playoff QB. Plummer was entitled to nothing. And he **** the bed in the AFFCCG and proved Shanny right by playing god awful in 2006. Ho we started out 6-2 despite his absolutely awful play is a testament to Shanny's greatness.

It bewilders me that Jake can keep making these snide comments from time to time about Shanny. He ****ing made him and enriched him. What ungratefulness. And Jake admitted that he mailed it in. Yeah....he's a real stud, I'm not shocked in the least that you like him. He admitted he pussed out. But go on, suck him off some more.

Pro tip: Using dumb nicknames like Tanahan doesnt make your arguments stronger.

TDmvp
10-01-2012, 10:52 PM
The only change to the O when Cutler came along was we used the whole play book from the Elway years . Where with Plummer we used a smaller version with more plays with fewer wr reads.

DENVERDUI55
10-01-2012, 11:01 PM
Hilarious! Ditto ... Kid's skill set is insane.

There have been plenty with the skill set bit not the mental aspect.

Miss I.
10-01-2012, 11:02 PM
did anyone else happen to notice that one of the Cowboys' TDs was thrown by Kyle Orton to Witten. that is seriously funny. Guess former Broncos having an okay night.

And for the love of God, get over it. Jay is not here. Jay is an asshat, a skilled asshat and he played pretty well last night, but he is still a petulant child 90% of the time. Doesn't mean he won't win football games and that's what matters. Though based on what I saw Romo won the game for the Bears as much as Cutler. As we already know, a good quarterback with lots of interceptions probably means we will lose the game. At least PM didn't act like a tool during his presser like Jay did when he **** the bed a few weeks ago. However, talented Jay is, I will never like him and I don't miss him. I hate McD for effin up the team, but I don't miss that kid. I wish him well, except against us, but I have no more feelings about him. I enjoy watching him play well, but I don't care anymore that I can if Tony Scheffler wins (though I really hate that guy since he did his little mile high salute last visit out...douchebag).

maher_tyler
10-01-2012, 11:03 PM
Hilarious! Ditto ... Kid's skill set is insane.

Skills yes...brain no

broncocalijohn
10-01-2012, 11:13 PM
We talk **** about Rivers and any other rival or guy that comes off as a jerk off, douche or whatever fits his personality. If those guys are fair game then why not Cutler? Same **** happened to Hillis and of course Tebow.

BowlenBall
10-01-2012, 11:14 PM
Don't know why there's bickering over Jay Cutler here.

I think we can all agree he's a magnificent, glorious douchebag! For me, it's almost comical, and high entertainment -- what will he do next? Will he be able to top himself?

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Never change, Smokin' Jay Cutler... Never change....

lonestar
10-01-2012, 11:22 PM
I dont think the offense changed that much. It's still Shanny's offense and we still saw us runnign ZBS and alot of rollout even with Jay (that great throw vs. Arizona was on rollout play). Yes, some more shotgun and dropback stuff, but its in the base offense, just not featured as often earlier.

Balls? Shanny made Plummer. Plummer was nothing without Shanny. He was at the nadir of his career at the end in Arizona and Shanny rescued him and made him into a playoff QB. Plummer was entitled to nothing. And he **** the bed in the AFFCCG and proved Shanny right by playing god awful in 2006. Ho we started out 6-2 despite his absolutely awful play is a testament to Shanny's greatness.

It bewilders me that Jake can keep making these snide comments from time to time about Shanny. He ****ing made him and enriched him. What ungratefulness. And Jake admitted that he mailed it in. Yeah....he's a real stud, I'm not shocked in the least that you like him. He admitted he pussed out. But go on, suck him off some more.

Pro tip: Using dumb nicknames like Tanahan doesnt make your arguments stronger.

in your opinion.. which by law your entitled to however wrong it maybe

just do not confuse bromance with facts..

FWIW Tanahan got your attention did it not..

it is called name recognition.. Did what it was supposed to do.. piss off the Tanahan lovers..

SoCalBronco
10-01-2012, 11:24 PM
in your opinion.. which by law your entitled to however wrong it maybe

just do not confuse bromance with facts..

FWIW Tanahan got your attention did it not..

it is called name recognition.. Did what it was supposed to do.. piss off the Tanahan lovers..

Yeah, it has gotten my attention, primarily because you use it all the time. That's your right, ofcourse, but you use it so often that even if one were inclined to agree iwth you, they'd prolly get tired of it too.

Jetland
10-01-2012, 11:28 PM
did anyone else happen to notice that one of the Cowboys' TDs was thrown by Kyle Orton to Witten. that is seriously funny. Guess former Broncos having an okay night.

And for the love of God, get over it. Jay is not here. Jay is an asshat, a skilled asshat and he played pretty well last night, but he is still a petulant child 90% of the time. Doesn't mean he won't win football games and that's what matters. Though based on what I saw Romo won the game for the Bears as much as Cutler. As we already know, a good quarterback with lots of interceptions probably means we will lose the game. At least PM didn't act like a tool during his presser like Jay did when he **** the bed a few weeks ago. However, talented Jay is, I will never like him and I don't miss him. I hate McD for effin up the team, but I don't miss that kid. I wish him well, except against us, but I have no more feelings about him. I enjoy watching him play well, but I don't care anymore that I can if Tony Scheffler wins (though I really hate that guy since he did his little mile high salute last visit out...douchebag).

but a lawyer says he is the bestest evaaaaaaah

wandlc
10-02-2012, 12:14 AM
If you think we talk badly about Cutler you should hear his team mates.

I didn't know you lived in Chicago and were in the Bears locker room all the time or were on a first name basis with several Bears players.

The Joker
10-02-2012, 12:26 AM
Played a good game tonight, managed the game well and took what the Dallas D gave him.

If he can consistently play smart ball and not turn it over the Bears are going to be a hard team to beat. That defense is fantastic.

He'll never be a likeable guy to anyone other than his mother and the clinically insane, but he can make some plays.

baja
10-02-2012, 12:31 AM
I didn't know you lived in Chicago and were in the Bears locker room all the time or were on a first name basis with several Bears players.


I'm sure there is much you don't know.

Archer81
10-02-2012, 01:02 AM
in your opinion.. which by law your entitled to however wrong it maybe

just do not confuse bromance with facts..

FWIW Tanahan got your attention did it not..

it is called name recognition.. Did what it was supposed to do.. piss off the Tanahan lovers..


No, its called being an immature douche. You dont have to love Shanahan, but it is completely clown shoes to purposely screw up the name.

I hate when people do that. Tanahan, McDumbass, Cutlet, Teblow...grow the **** up.


:Broncos:

55CrushEm
10-02-2012, 07:40 AM
Loved the Cutler pick when I saw him in person throwing the ball in his first camp in 2006 and still love it today. I would welcome him back on the team with open arms, I would gladly apologize to him for how he was treated by Satan McD, Joe "Wormtongue" Ellis and the gutless drunk himself , and I wouldn't be opposed to throwing rose petals on the ground as he entered the Valley (if that ever happened). I don't have any problems with his attitude and I never have.

Go Jay!

That's more pathetic than his attitude. You're so blind with man-love, you honestly don't see a problem with the way he acts?!?!?!?!?

Or is this just schtick now?

Eldorado
10-02-2012, 08:10 AM
Sweet pro tip, brah

Loved the Cutler pick when I saw him in person throwing the ball in his first camp in 2006 and still love it today. I would welcome him back on the team with open arms, I would gladly apologize to him for how he was treated by Satan McD, Joe "Wormtongue" Ellis and the gutless drunk himself , and I wouldn't be opposed to throwing rose petals on the ground as he entered the Valley (if that ever happened). I don't have any problems with his attitude and I never have.

Go Jay!


I dont think the offense changed that much. It's still Shanny's offense and we still saw us runnign ZBS and alot of rollout even with Jay (that great throw vs. Arizona was on rollout play). Yes, some more shotgun and dropback stuff, but its in the base offense, just not featured as often earlier.

Balls? Shanny made Plummer. Plummer was nothing without Shanny. He was at the nadir of his career at the end in Arizona and Shanny rescued him and made him into a playoff QB. Plummer was entitled to nothing. And he **** the bed in the AFFCCG and proved Shanny right by playing god awful in 2006. Ho we started out 6-2 despite his absolutely awful play is a testament to Shanny's greatness.

It bewilders me that Jake can keep making these snide comments from time to time about Shanny. He ****ing made him and enriched him. What ungratefulness. And Jake admitted that he mailed it in. Yeah....he's a real stud, I'm not shocked in the least that you like him. He admitted he pussed out. But go on, suck him off some more.

Pro tip: Using dumb nicknames like Tanahan doesnt make your arguments stronger.

ColoradoDarin
10-02-2012, 08:49 AM
Loved the Cutler pick when I saw him in person throwing the ball in his first camp in 2006 and still love it today. I would welcome him back on the team with open arms, I would gladly apologize to him for how he was treated by Satan McD, Joe "Wormtongue" Ellis and the gutless drunk himself , and I wouldn't be opposed to throwing rose petals on the ground as he entered the Valley (if that ever happened). I don't have any problems with his attitude and I never have.

Go Jay!

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Meck77
10-02-2012, 08:53 AM
Debating Cutler and Plummer is like politics and religion. No matter how much you think someone's opinion is wrong people will blindly stand behind jerkoffs like cutler!

TheReverend
10-02-2012, 08:58 AM
Debating Cutler and Plummer is like politics and religion. No matter how much you think someone's opinion is wrong people will blindly stand behind jerkoffs like cutler!

That "jerk off" was a budding star here and has had dramatically more success than the Broncos have had since being traded by the worst thing to ever happen to the organization.

But 1+1 must = 62

TonyR
10-02-2012, 10:03 AM
I don't have any problems with his attitude and I never have.


Assuming you're serious, which sadly I think you are, this is just a ridiculously stupid take. You really need to have more perspective than this. Cutler is fantastically talented. One of the best arms in the league. But there's a reason the opinion of him around the league doesn't remotely match the level of his talent. Any guess what those reasons are?

houghtam
10-02-2012, 10:08 AM
Assuming you're serious, which sadly I think you are, this is just a ridiculously stupid take. You really need to have more perspective than this. Cutler is fantastically talented. One of the best arms in the league. But there's a reason the opinion of him around the league doesn't remotely match the level of his talent. Any guess what those reasons are?

Yeah, really.

Question: Has Cutler lived up to his potential? Why or why not? If not, is it all someone else's fault? Does he bear any blame?

Ah, what's the use. Haters gonna hate, and cup sniffers gonna sniff...loooooong and deep.

Tombstone RJ
10-02-2012, 10:13 AM
That "jerk off" was a budding star here and has had dramatically more success than the Broncos have had since being traded by the worst thing to ever happen to the organization.

But 1+1 must = 62

not so sure about that. The Bears have won just 1 playoff game since Cutler has been there, along with being the division champion. Yes, Chicago has won more games but in the end, Cutler has not gotten them any closer to a championship than TT, and the Broncos have also managed to be divisional champs as well. The Broncos W/L record from 2009 until 2011 is 20/28 and dabearz record over the same period of time is 26/22.

Dramatically more successful? No. And very much even in the playoffs.

Smiling Assassin27
10-02-2012, 10:23 AM
Fools.



Gold.

TheReverend
10-02-2012, 11:31 AM
not so sure about that. The Bears have won just 1 playoff game since Cutler has been there, along with being the division champion. Yes, Chicago has won more games but in the end, Cutler has not gotten them any closer to a championship than TT, and the Broncos have also managed to be divisional champs as well. The Broncos W/L record from 2009 until 2011 is 20/28 and dabearz record over the same period of time is 26/22.

Dramatically more successful? No. And very much even in the playoffs.

I suppose that's true

...if you're retarded and think being blown out in the divisional round = a championship game loss to the superbowl champs after an injury to Jay took him out of the game.

And that doesn't even bother mentioning the most futile season in franchise history or that they were on pace for a postseason return before another injury completely derailed their season last year.

Nice try though :thumbs:

Tombstone RJ
10-02-2012, 11:52 AM
I suppose that's true

...if you're retarded and think being blown out in the divisional round = a championship game loss to the superbowl champs after an injury to Jay took him out of the game.

And that doesn't even bother mentioning the most futile season in franchise history or that they were on pace for a postseason return before another injury completely derailed their season last year.

Nice try though :thumbs:

Hilarious!

The fact that the Broncos have one divisional win and one playoff win, matching the exact same post season record and championship record the Bears have since acquiring Cutler basically shreds your "dramatic difference" crapola. The way the Bears lost in their conference game playoff appearance makes no difference and injuries are just part of the game.

As for the Broncos 4-12 regular season, yes, that sucked. But the turmoil the team was going through was huge as well. Other than that one season where the Broncos went 4-12 and the bears went 11-5, the Broncos regular season record and the bears regular season record is about the same.

Dramatic difference? Nope. More drama for the Broncos? Yep.

TheReverend
10-02-2012, 12:00 PM
Hilarious!

The fact that the Broncos have one divisional win and one playoff win, matching the exact same post season record and championship record the Bears have since acquiring Cutler basically shreds your "dramatic difference" crapola. The way the Bears lost in their conference game playoff appearance makes no difference and injuries are just part of the game.

As for the Broncos 4-12 regular season, yes, that sucked. But the turmoil the team was going through was huge as well. Other than that one season where the Broncos went 4-12 and the bears went 11-5, the Broncos regular season record and the bears regular season record is about the same.

Dramatic difference? Nope. More drama for the Broncos? Yep.

Congrats. Stopped reading one sentence in.

A new record of failure.

The fact that you're arguing over the level of success of one organization vs another, while somehow penalizing one team for earning a ****ing first round bye is mind-numbingly stupid.

Like you.

Tombstone RJ
10-02-2012, 12:04 PM
Congrats. Stopped reading one sentence in.

A new record of failure.

The fact that you're arguing over the level of success of one organization vs another, while somehow penalizing one team for earning a ****ing first round bye is mind-numbingly stupid.

Like you.

LOL

ok drama queen!

TheReverend
10-02-2012, 12:07 PM
LOL

ok drama queen!

Not being dramatic, you just need to learn to inject some consistency in your argument.

Again, the discussion is about franchise success vs franchise success.

A top seed and earning a playoff bye is a GOOD thing.

The Championship game > Divisional game

^ especially when one is competitive and the other is a humiliating blow out

And there's no way to rationalize Denver's worst season ever.

Somehow you ignore all this and say "Duh we both have 1 playoff win!"

The ONLY logical conclusion is that you're a ****ing moron, and frankly there are thousands of posts corroborating that conclusion.

Eldorado
10-02-2012, 12:08 PM
I hate stalk Cutler like a scorned lover. I really am glad he's not my best turd anymore, though.

Tombstone RJ
10-02-2012, 12:22 PM
Not being dramatic, you just need to learn to inject some consistency in your argument.

Again, the discussion is about franchise success vs franchise success.

A top seed and earning a playoff bye is a GOOD thing.

The Championship game > Divisional game

^ especially when one is competitive and the other is a humiliating blow out

And there's no way to rationalize Denver's worst season ever.

Somehow you ignore all this and say "Duh we both have 1 playoff win!"

The ONLY logical conclusion is that you're a ****ing moron, and frankly there are thousands of posts corroborating that conclusion.

You stated Cutler has had "dramatically more success" than the Broncos franchise since he left the Broncos. I'm simply pointing out some facts about what has transpired since frown cannon left. When you boil it down to post season success, the difference is simply not dramatic. Each team has one playoff win. Each team has one division win. Furthermore, outside of the 2010 season which is the only real "dramatic" difference between the two franchises (I'll grant you that), the two teams regular season records are almost identical. I'm just not seeing this "dramatic difference" you keep trying to show everyone. But whatever.

TheReverend
10-02-2012, 12:44 PM
You stated Cutler has had "dramatically more success" than the Broncos franchise since he left the Broncos. I'm simply pointing out some facts about what has transpired since frown cannon left. When you boil it down to post season success, the difference is simply not dramatic. Each team has one playoff win. Each team has one division win. Furthermore, outside of the 2010 season which is the only real "dramatic" difference between the two franchises (I'll grant you that), the two teams regular season records are almost identical. I'm just not seeing this "dramatic difference" you keep trying to show everyone. But whatever.

No, you're not even posting facts.

Example:

Chicago has gone 25-17 for a .60win% with Cutler
Denver has gone 20-28 for a .42win% since

That's no small margin... that's nearly a full 20% more

And one game away from the SB and competing in it vs being blown out in the divisional round is also a very big difference.

Tombstone RJ
10-02-2012, 12:54 PM
No, you're not even posting facts.

Example:

Chicago has gone 25-17 for a .60win% with Cutler
Denver has gone 20-28 for a .42win% since

That's no small margin... that's nearly a full 20% more

And one game away from the SB and competing in it vs being blown out in the divisional round is also a very big difference.

See post #157 where I talked about the regular season records for both teams from 2009 until 2011. Unlike your post above, I'm comparing a span of 48 regular season games over 3 seasons while you are comparing 42 games (the other 6 games lost to injury) as opposed to 48 games. Again, there's nothing you can do about injuries, they are just part of the game. Yes, Chicago has a better regular season record but that is primarily due to one season, 2010. Otherwise Chicago's W/L record over the other two years is 15/17 and the Broncos W/L record is 16/16. Not a dramatic difference.

As for the post season loss. A loss is a loss. In the end, the Broncos are 1-1 in the playoffs as are the Bears.

GreatBronco16
10-02-2012, 01:00 PM
And one game away from the SB and competing in it vs being blown out in the divisional round is also a very big difference.


I know. The difference is sooooo great that both teams didn't make it to the SB.:P

DENVERDUI55
10-02-2012, 01:05 PM
No, you're not even posting facts.

Example:

Chicago has gone 25-17 for a .60win% with Cutler
Denver has gone 20-28 for a .42win% since

That's no small margin... that's nearly a full 20% more

And one game away from the SB and competing in it vs being blown out in the divisional round is also a very big difference.


Not that I was for trading Cutler but if you do the same thing when he was here and compare two teams.

17-20 for a 46% win percentage with Cutler(disclaimer only counted games Jay started).
29-19 for a 60% win percentage for Chicago without Cutler.

All this points too is there is alot that goes into winning games besides one player.

TheReverend
10-02-2012, 01:07 PM
See post #157 where I talked about the regular season records for both teams from 2009 until 2011. Unlike your post above, I'm comparing a span of 48 regular season games over 3 seasons while you are comparing 42 games (the other 6 games lost to injury) as opposed to 48 games. Again, there's nothing you can do about injuries, they are just part of the game. Yes, Chicago has a better regular season record but that is primarily due to one season, 2010. Otherwise Chicago's W/L record over the other two years is 15/17 and the Broncos W/L record is 16/16. Not a dramatic difference.

As for the post season loss. A loss is a loss. In the end, the Broncos are 1-1 in the playoffs as are the Bears.

Okay, so let me clarify:

Are you saying that for you, a playoff win is a playoff win no matter?

houghtam
10-02-2012, 01:10 PM
Not that I was for trading Cutler but if you do the same thing when he was here and compare two teams.

17-20 for a 46% win percentage with Cutler(disclaimer only counted games Jay started).
29-19 for a 60% win percentage for Chicago without Cutler.

All this points too is there is alot that goes into winning games besides one player.

In addition to this, it points to the fact that having Cutler doesn't translate to more wins.

In other words, he is an average quarterback, or if you're of the opinion that since a quarterback touches the ball all the time he should have a positive impact on wins, he's below average.

Put them together and you get:

Denver with Cutler 17-20, after Cutler 20-28.

Chicago before Cutler 29-19, with Cutler 25-17.

Denver was a below average team when Cutler was here, and they've been a below average team since. Chicago was a good team before Cutler, and has been a good team since.

Ray Finkle
10-02-2012, 01:10 PM
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Requiem
10-02-2012, 01:11 PM
Jay Cutler has diabetes and he is out there playing football. Some people don't go to work because their dog is sick. Cutler rules!

TheReverend
10-02-2012, 01:15 PM
Not that I was for trading Cutler but if you do the same thing when he was here and compare two teams.

17-20 for a 46% win percentage with Cutler(disclaimer only counted games Jay started).
29-19 for a 60% win percentage for Chicago without Cutler.

All this points too is there is alot that goes into winning games besides one player.

I'd actually fully buy into that if they hadn't started off on the same foot (in fact, slight edge to 8-8 Denver over 7-9 Bears) and then drastically trended in different directions from there.

Stagger Lee
10-02-2012, 01:17 PM
I'd actually fully buy into that if they hadn't started off on the same foot (in fact, slight edge to 8-8 Denver over 7-9 Bears) and then drastically trended in different directions from there.

While I tend to agree with you on Cutler, we did have a complete jackass as coach that helped push us in said downward direction.

ColoradoDarin
10-02-2012, 01:47 PM
I'd actually fully buy into that if they hadn't started off on the same foot (in fact, slight edge to 8-8 Denver over 7-9 Bears) and then drastically trended in different directions from there.

Wasn't that the year that Urlacher missed?

DAN_BRONCO_FAN
10-02-2012, 02:51 PM
https://www.nflplayers.com/About-Us.aspx?section=About-Us&levels=3&lvl2=Community&lvl3=NFL-Players-Charities&menuName=NFL-Players-Charities&parentName=Community

Cutler though is one of only a few current NFL QB's that sponsor a charity organization. He does do his share for the community. That has to be pointed out in any Cutler-bashing thread. He's far from a charming kind of guy, but he's not the most evil guy in the world.

when he isnt flipping off lil ol ladieshttp://i.imgur.com/2M0AU.jpg

menonite
10-02-2012, 03:13 PM
Cutler though is one of only a few current NFL QB's that sponsor a charity organization. He does do his share for the community. That has to be pointed out in any Cutler-bashing thread. He's far from a charming kind of guy, but he's not the most evil guy in the world.


Jay Cutler - not as evil as Hitler.

maher_tyler
10-02-2012, 03:51 PM
Though Cutler hasn't had much for weapons in Chicago. His best year as far as Rating goes was his rookie year with an 88.5. Its to bad we never did anything with the draft picks we got in return.

BroncoFanDoug
10-02-2012, 03:56 PM
Wow 90% of this discussion seems to be trying to prove or disprove something about Cutler, and all it seems to prove is that Chicago was a better team than Denver when Cutler was traded.

What am I missing??

maven
10-02-2012, 04:00 PM
Wow 90% of this discussion seems to be trying to prove or disprove something about Cutler, and all it seems to prove is that Chicago was a better team than Denver when Cutler was traded.

What am I missing??

Nothing.

Cito Pelon
10-02-2012, 06:11 PM
when he isnt flipping off lil ol ladieshttp://i.imgur.com/2M0AU.jpg

On a scale of one to ten he's showing how much class he has.

lonestar
10-02-2012, 06:30 PM
On a scale of one to ten he's showing how much class he has.

well that would be two digits.. personally I think it a less than that..

lonestar
10-02-2012, 06:37 PM
Wow 90% of this discussion seems to be trying to prove or disprove something about Cutler, and all it seems to prove is that Chicago was a better team than Denver when Cutler was traded.

What am I missing??

Better team are you joking?

last night 14 points were put up on the screen by the Defense.. PERIOD does anyone believe that (God I can't believe I;m saying this) Romo has five picks without the drops, mis-routes and tipped balls if it was not the defense turning the game for them..

Even with the their Offense was 2 points better than Dallas was.. take out those two pick sixes and it is a 20-18 win for cutlet..

cutlet has won loads of games because of that defense and their ST's .

he has had some whooper games for them.. but when your teammates are defending your actions that everyone in the outside world find immature/childish at best, something is wrong..

BroncoFanDoug
10-02-2012, 07:14 PM
Better team are you joking?

last night 14 points were put up on the screen by the Defense.. PERIOD does anyone believe that (God I can't believe I;m saying this) Romo has five picks without the drops, mis-routes and tipped balls if it was not the defense turning the game for them..

Even with the their Offense was 2 points better than Dallas was.. take out those two pick sixes and it is a 20-18 win for cutlet..

cutlet has won loads of games because of that defense and their ST's .

he has had some whooper games for them.. but when your teammates are defending your actions that everyone in the outside world find immature/childish at best, something is wrong..

As was very clear in my post, I was talking about the two team when Cutler was traded. Why are you talking about last night's game?

The Joker
10-02-2012, 08:08 PM
http://i.imgur.com/7mGKp.jpg

BABronco
10-02-2012, 09:28 PM
In addition to this, it points to the fact that having Cutler doesn't translate to more wins.

In other words, he is an average quarterback, or if you're of the opinion that since a quarterback touches the ball all the time he should have a positive impact on wins, he's below average.

Put them together and you get:

Denver with Cutler 17-20, after Cutler 20-28.

Chicago before Cutler 29-19, with Cutler 25-17.

Denver was a below average team when Cutler was here, and they've been a below average team since. Chicago was a good team before Cutler, and has been a good team since.

So your telling me rookie/young qbs generally dont win... Well color me surprised

orange skier
10-02-2012, 09:41 PM
I absolutely love the Mane.......it's a thread like this that takes my brain to a different universe. Wow.......the Cutler versus Plummer debate. Lovely, just lovely.

~Crash~
10-02-2012, 09:54 PM
you could read all this **** ? I could not it make a sane person nuts rather quickly. my god get over it . Cutler is were he belongs he is from that state he is there good by and good luck . wow I feel better now back to all the nut jobs telling us how badly they hate a guy that did not love someone back stabbing him !

~Crash~
10-02-2012, 09:58 PM
when he isnt flipping off lil ol ladieshttp://i.imgur.com/2M0AU.jpg

I see why he might want some me time you ****ers need the bird

wandlc
10-02-2012, 10:33 PM
I'm sure there is much you don't know.

So you try to insult me instead of stating the obvious. You have no clue what his team mates think of him.

Archer81
10-03-2012, 12:18 AM
Better team are you joking?

last night 14 points were put up on the screen by the Defense.. PERIOD does anyone believe that (God I can't believe I;m saying this) Romo has five picks without the drops, mis-routes and tipped balls if it was not the defense turning the game for them..

Even with the their Offense was 2 points better than Dallas was.. take out those two pick sixes and it is a 20-18 win for cutlet..

cutlet has won loads of games because of that defense and their ST's .

he has had some whooper games for them.. but when your teammates are defending your actions that everyone in the outside world find immature/childish at best, something is wrong..


...If it did not come off as mother henish/fascist...I'd ban for this.

:Broncos:

The Joker
10-03-2012, 12:25 AM
I don't think anyone would raise any objection, quite honestly.

Gort
10-03-2012, 01:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/7mGKp.jpg

Jay Cutler is not amused.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1002/nfl_a_cutler1x_576.jpg

ThirtyDegrees
10-03-2012, 04:20 AM
Okay, so let me clarify:

Are you saying that for you, a playoff win is a playoff win no matter?

Are you saying that?

Because Cutler's playoff win came against a team that finished its season with a losing record.