View Full Version : 2012: Obama's Regurgitation of 2008 Hopey Changey BS
nyuk nyuk
09-06-2012, 04:35 PM
Good Lord, he can't even get a new script. Lucky for him the average liberal has a memory about the length of a beer commercial.
http://www.surenews.com/obama/2008-vs-2012.htm
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-06-2012, 05:40 PM
Gotta love republican logic. Ha!
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Requiem
09-06-2012, 05:54 PM
It's too bad she had to get banned from Broncos Country and foul up this place. So gross.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-06-2012, 06:03 PM
Somebody has to represent the female side of the sister diddler demographic.
Requiem
09-06-2012, 06:15 PM
She has some issues fasho.
houghtam
09-06-2012, 06:21 PM
LOL she.
Requiem
09-06-2012, 06:25 PM
I bet she is at least 200 pounds.
El Minion
09-06-2012, 06:27 PM
Somebody has to represent the female side of the sister diddler demographic.
Yes but does she have a wide stance? :wiggle:
Jetmeck
09-06-2012, 11:16 PM
Can't see what their party did to the country.
Takes no responsibility for obstruction.
Wants to invoke the same policies that screwed us all.
Wants more tax breaks for the rich even though they want fix the debt.
I am surprised these idiots could tie their own shoes.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-06-2012, 11:26 PM
Can't see what their party did to the country.
Takes no responsibility for obstruction.
Wants to invoke the same policies that screwed us all.
Wants more tax breaks for the rich even though they want fix the debt.
I am surprised these idiots could tie their own shoes.
They remain completely unremorseful and unrepentant regarding the damage BushCo did to America.
How is this any different from the behavior we observe in sociopaths?
Dexter
09-07-2012, 01:00 AM
They remain completely unremorseful and unrepentant regarding the damage BushCo did to America.
How is this any different from the behavior we observe in sociopaths?
There are really two things that strike me about the republicans ever since Obama took office. And Clinton touched on them both at the DNC, but they are things that I took notice to before his speech.
1) The absolute hate for Obama
2) The absolute unwillingness to compromise.
I'm not going to pull the race card, because although there are definitely some racists, I don't think that generalization completely works for the party as a whole. Although the whole birther thing is a bit puzzling, I will say that much.
This radical right, is a new breed of republican that has gotten into office and "taken over" it seems this past decade. They don't know how to agree to disagree, while trying to find compromise in bettering the lives of every day Americans.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't ever remember the democrats coming out and saying the things about Bush that the republicans have said about Obama. Marco Rubio coming out and saying President Obama is a "nice guy" but a Bad president was one of the most disrespectful and hypocritical statements I've ever heard. Paul Ryan's speech about Obama wasn't much better. The people on this board that support the republicans can dislike or try to deny it all they want, but Obama was handed one of the worst situations a president could be handed. The world hasn't ended, the economy hasn't sunk into depression, and things are starting to get better if you're optimistic, and have stabilized if you're pessimistic.
So overall calling Obama a bad president when they won't even mention Bush's name or act like he exists, while running on his same policies is laughable at best.
Another point I'd like to make is the absolute disgrace the republicans have turned into because of their lack of willingness to compromise on ANY issue. Their taking hostage of the american people in regards to raising the debt ceiling was just wrong. They are the reason we lost our AAA credit rating, because of the sh*t that they pulled. Not to mention they've basically gotten hired to represent the american people and work with this president for TWO years. Did they get anything positive done? NOPE.
Another example of unwillingness to compromise is treating those like Huntsman or Paul that have different ideas like absolute loons. Huntsman is more of a social moderate who actually believes in evolution and global warming, while Paul is one of the only true peace and states rights candidates out there. Ron Paul was a flight surgeon in the war, and has since been a doctor who had a career in obstetrics and gynecology. But do you think the republicans care about what he has to say on the issues of War and Abortion(which he thinks should be a states rights issue)? NO in fact, the general base BOOS him. Sh*t they didn't even let him speak when he won a **** ton of delegates.
The republican party is lost, and unless they win the election through voter fraud, and misinformation on voting dates and procedures(which is possible), they will never capture the people who would like to vote for a non loony republican.
I would have been ecstatic to perhaps vote for a more socially responsible, and non warmongering republican. But unfortunately, I haven't been given that choice. Its funny, because my mother who hadn't ever voted for a democrat until 2008 feels the same way. And talking to her the other day, she expressed the same concerns. She will NEVER vote for a republican candidate so dishonest, unwilling to compromise and so far to the right. And you know what? She isn't alone.
Republicans really need to reclaim their party from these extremists.
Well this turned out to be a long winded post.
Prodigal19
09-07-2012, 02:10 AM
Good Lord, he can't even get a new script. Lucky for him the average liberal has a memory about the length of a beer commercial.
http://www.surenews.com/obama/2008-vs-2012.htm
Holy crap, almost an entire minute out of hours of 2012 speeches consist of similar lines to a collaboration of his speeches from 2008?!?!? Crazy!
Smiling Assassin27
09-07-2012, 07:13 AM
The utterly horrible jobs report pretty much puts the cherry on top of the 'same ol' bullcrap from the same ol' tired leader' sundae. When you're too stupid or arrogant to even realize that today's job report is bad news, you need to go. And when you're too stupid or headstrong to realize this president was never ready for primetime, never competent enough to lead, and too arrogant to even know it, you deserve what you get.
barryr
09-07-2012, 07:21 AM
Obama's speech was just more of the same BS he has spouted for years. "Believe in me" despite little reason to, other than his blind supporters who already decided back in 2009 they were going to vote for him no matter what. No wonder the rest of the world doesn't take the U.S. seriously anymore.
TonyR
09-07-2012, 07:25 AM
...Well this turned out to be a long winded post.
^ But it was an excellent post, Dex. Well said. You summed up a lot of my feelings pretty well. It's really pretty sad, and the two righties who have posted in this thread so far illustrate perfectly just how strong the righty propaganda is and how deluded and out of touch those who have succumbed to it are. A rational, moderate GOP is exactly what this country needs right now. And a rational, moderate GOP ticket would have run away with this election. Instead we have this mess. Sigh.
barryr
09-07-2012, 07:39 AM
^ But it was an excellent post, Dex. Well said. You summed up a lot of my feelings pretty well. It's really pretty sad, and the two righties who have posted in this thread so far illustrate perfectly just how strong the righty propaganda is and how deluded and out of touch those who have succumbed to it are. A rational, moderate GOP is exactly what this country needs right now. And a rational, moderate GOP ticket would have run away with this election. Instead we have this mess. Sigh.
Oh what BS. Like the democrats with your take God out of the platform and refusal to state Jerusalem is the capital of Israel is somehow mainstream. Like you or any of the other liberals around here ever planned to vote other than for Obama. The economy is in shambles, but you guys pretend it is better even though a record number of people are out of work and think raising taxes is going to help that. You want rational, but you guys clearly demonstrate you don't even know what that is.
peacepipe
09-07-2012, 07:43 AM
^ But it was an excellent post, Dex. Well said. You summed up a lot of my feelings pretty well. It's really pretty sad, and the two righties who have posted in this thread so far illustrate perfectly just how strong the righty propaganda is and how deluded and out of touch those who have succumbed to it are. A rational, moderate GOP is exactly what this country needs right now. And a rational, moderate GOP ticket would have run away with this election. Instead we have this mess. Sigh.
if we had a moderate GOP the last couple of years,the jobs act would of passed,ACA would have passed alot quicker,our credit rating would be better,our unemployment rate would be below 7% & Obama would win by a landslide. instead we have the mess we currently sit in.
barryr
09-07-2012, 07:45 AM
There are really two things that strike me about the republicans ever since Obama took office. And Clinton touched on them both at the DNC, but they are things that I took notice to before his speech.
1) The absolute hate for Obama
2) The absolute unwillingness to compromise.
I'm not going to pull the race card, because although there are definitely some racists, I don't think that generalization completely works for the party as a whole. Although the whole birther thing is a bit puzzling, I will say that much.
This radical right, is a new breed of republican that has gotten into office and "taken over" it seems this past decade. They don't know how to agree to disagree, while trying to find compromise in bettering the lives of every day Americans.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't ever remember the democrats coming out and saying the things about Bush that the republicans have said about Obama. Marco Rubio coming out and saying President Obama is a "nice guy" but a Bad president was one of the most disrespectful and hypocritical statements I've ever heard. Paul Ryan's speech about Obama wasn't much better. The people on this board that support the republicans can dislike or try to deny it all they want, but Obama was handed one of the worst situations a president could be handed. The world hasn't ended, the economy hasn't sunk into depression, and things are starting to get better if you're optimistic, and have stabilized if you're pessimistic.
So overall calling Obama a bad president when they won't even mention Bush's name or act like he exists, while running on his same policies is laughable at best.
Another point I'd like to make is the absolute disgrace the republicans have turned into because of their lack of willingness to compromise on ANY issue. Their taking hostage of the american people in regards to raising the debt ceiling was just wrong. They are the reason we lost our AAA credit rating, because of the sh*t that they pulled. Not to mention they've basically gotten hired to represent the american people and work with this president for TWO years. Did they get anything positive done? NOPE.
Another example of unwillingness to compromise is treating those like Huntsman or Paul that have different ideas like absolute loons. Huntsman is more of a social moderate who actually believes in evolution and global warming, while Paul is one of the only true peace and states rights candidates out there. Ron Paul was a flight surgeon in the war, and has since been a doctor who had a career in obstetrics and gynecology. But do you think the republicans care about what he has to say on the issues of War and Abortion(which he thinks should be a states rights issue)? NO in fact, the general base BOOS him. Sh*t they didn't even let him speak when he won a **** ton of delegates.
The republican party is lost, and unless they win the election through voter fraud, and misinformation on voting dates and procedures(which is possible), they will never capture the people who would like to vote for a non loony republican.
I would have been ecstatic to perhaps vote for a more socially responsible, and non warmongering republican. But unfortunately, I haven't been given that choice. Its funny, because my mother who hadn't ever voted for a democrat until 2008 feels the same way. And talking to her the other day, she expressed the same concerns. She will NEVER vote for a republican candidate so dishonest, unwilling to compromise and so far to the right. And you know what? She isn't alone.
Republicans really need to reclaim their party from these extremists.
Well this turned out to be a long winded post.
Are you serious? Yeah, the democrats and liberals just stated disagreements with Bush and his policies and never made it personal. You liberals sure have a way of rewriting history when facts get in the way. And liberals and their media have made a joke out of Paul, so thinking the republicans were going to bother backing him is ridiculous. Not to mention Huntsman looks like a great candidate to liberals seeing how he had no chance of winning. You liberals love to delude yourselves into thinking how center your thinking is on issues.
TonyR
09-07-2012, 07:49 AM
Oh what BS. Like the democrats with your take God out of the platform and refusal to state Jerusalem is the capital of Israel is somehow mainstream. Like you or any of the other liberals around here ever planned to vote other than for Obama. The economy is in shambles, but you guys pretend it is better even though a record number of people are out of work and think raising taxes is going to help that. You want rational, but you guys clearly demonstrate you don't even know what that is.
Nothing BS about the clear fact that a moderate GOP ticket would run away with the presidency. Nothing BS about the fact that God and Jerusalem aren't the major issues to be focused on, and that your spin on the Dem stand on these issues is incorrect. Nothing BS about the fact that some of us are ready, willing and able to vote for the best candidate. Nothing BS about the fact that Obama isn't the reason the economy is in "shambles" and that most of us aren't pretending it's better than it is. Who ever said "raising taxes" is going to help? Obama has actually cut taxes for 95% of Americans, including you. but you probably didn't even know that. You're too busy gulping down the right wing propaganda that shapes your poisoned world view.
TonyR
09-07-2012, 07:53 AM
Are you serious?
This is one thing I'll partially agree with you on. The Dems were pretty hard on W. The difference is the hate didn't generally start before the man took office, W was generally supported during his major crisis (9/11), and there were more and better reasons for the anti-Bush sentiments when they did come about. It's also true that W didn't face nearly the obstructionist congress that Obama has had to deal with. But I don't expect you'll have the perception to appreciate any of this.
Smiling Assassin27
09-07-2012, 07:54 AM
When you've lost The Atlantic, you're in trouble:
The problem with President Obama's dud of a convention speech isn't that it deflated his supporters (it didn't), or that it made Bill Clinton look good (it did). The problem is that it stepped on the message. And for that reason, Democrats may come out of their convention no better than Republicans came out of theirs.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-07-2012, 08:00 AM
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-07-2012, 08:05 AM
When you've lost The Atlantic, you're in trouble:
Some right-wing goober didn't like the speech?
What a bombshell. ::)
Smiling Assassin27
09-07-2012, 08:12 AM
JP Morgan's top economist:
Once one takes account of population growth there has been essentially no progress in repairing the labor market after the recent downturn. In fact, if you go through the details it’s hard to find any redeeming aspects to this jobs report. In terms of the broader economy, today’s numbers should check any enthusiasm that the economy was gaining momentum toward the end of the summer. Instead, the economy appears to remain stuck in the mud.
Translation: This economy sucks the sweat off a dead man's balls.
I have no idea what that means, but it can't be good.
TonyR
09-07-2012, 08:15 AM
When you've lost The Atlantic, you're in trouble:
LOL Just because it wasn't a great speech doesn't mean you've "lost" anybody or that you're "in trouble".
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-07-2012, 08:17 AM
The OP has a POV "curiously untainted by reality..."
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/262941_411779658881119_1923254109_n.jpg
Smiling Assassin27
09-07-2012, 08:40 AM
In all fairness to the President, he was speaking to this gene pool:
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pricejj
09-07-2012, 08:42 AM
The Bush hate is ridiculous considering that he had to resurrect a nose-diving economy just like Obama inherited, with the added disaster of 9/11. Democrats pretend to hate him for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars...even though Obama expanded the war effort in Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan.
At least he didn't take any of our rights away (unlike Obama).
BroncoLifer
09-07-2012, 08:50 AM
Marco Rubio coming out and saying President Obama is a "nice guy" but a Bad president was one of the most disrespectful and hypocritical statements I've ever heard.
What an absurd claim. It must be hard to stack BS so high.
BroncoInferno
09-07-2012, 09:08 AM
The Bush hate is ridiculous considering that he had to resurrect a nose-diving economy just like Obama inherited, with the added disaster of 9/11.
Are you nuts? Bush inherited a budget surplus and eviscerated it! Are you really comparing the post-9/11 mini-recession with the cluster**** Obama inherited? You are even dumber and more deluded than I thought.
At least he didn't take any of our rights away (unlike Obama).
Bush took away rights with the Patriot Act. Name a single right Obama has eliminated while in office?
BroncoLifer
09-07-2012, 09:14 AM
Name a single right Obama has eliminated while in office?
I'll start. The right for GM bondholders to receive priority in a bankruptcy.
BroncoInferno
09-07-2012, 09:18 AM
I'll start. The right for GM bondholders to receive priority in a bankruptcy.
Please.
TonyR
09-07-2012, 09:26 AM
...he had to resurrect a nose-diving economy just like Obama inherited...
LOL Your limited credibility just dwindled a little bit more.
BroncoLifer
09-07-2012, 09:26 AM
Please.
I know, but I brought it up since it's Obama in a nutshell - redistribution with cronyism.
pricejj
09-07-2012, 09:42 AM
LOL Your limited credibility just dwindled a little bit more.
The stock market crash (dot com bubble burst) began on March 10, 2000...8 months before George W. Bush was voted into office, and 10 months before he was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2001. Facts are interesting aren't they.
http://www.simple-stock-trading.com/images/stock_market_crash_chart_Nasdaq_still_not_recovere d.png
Like I said, your hatred for George Bush is quite misplaced. If you hate him for retaliating against 9/11, that's your choice...but the Congressional Democrats all voted to go to war, and Obama has expanded the wars.
Dexter
09-07-2012, 09:48 AM
Are you serious? Yeah, the democrats and liberals just stated disagreements with Bush and his policies and never made it personal. You liberals sure have a way of rewriting history when facts get in the way. And liberals and their media have made a joke out of Paul, so thinking the republicans were going to bother backing him is ridiculous. Not to mention Huntsman looks like a great candidate to liberals seeing how he had no chance of winning. You liberals love to delude yourselves into thinking how center your thinking is on issues.
Yeah because it was liberals booing Ron Paul and Huntsman in primary debates. It was liberal media ignoring these two candidates in debates and overall. It was liberals who changed the rules in at their DNC with the specific goal of silencing Ron Paul
Now, I will admit I'm more socially liberal. I believe in equality of rights, and that we as a nation, so rich and well off, should be able and willing to take care of our neighbor. The one who comes down with cancer, or gets maimed in a theater shooting, the one who gets hit by a drunk driver. But what do the republicans want to tell these people? You're on your own. If you aren't rich enough to meet the demands of a health insurance company, you're ****ed. They also don't give a **** about how we treat the planet we live on.
At the same time I realize that the federal government shouldn't be involved in every single decision, and that states should have more rights. Something the republican party claims to value but only really does when it fits their warped ideals.
Here's an example of republicans bringing down a system that provides thousands of jobs, and community centers everywhere. http://www.wwrl1600.com/pages/10511221.php?pid=256329
For the Lazy: In 2006 – Republicans in Congress passed a poison pill piece of legislation forcing the Post Office to pre-fund retiree health benefits 75 years out into the future – basically funding benefits for future employees who aren’t even born yet. The Postal Service has to do this by giving the Treasury $5.5 billion every single year. That’s a requirement that no business, or any government agency has ever had to comply with. And it’s the reason why the Post Office is going bankrupt today and looking into closing down post offices, laying off workers, and cutting down delivery service.
My father has worked for the Post Office for 30 years. He has called in sick TWICE and was forced to take three weeks off because of a clot in his leg. He and others like him have delivered your mail, and packages in below freezing weather and smoldering heat. Yet, he who believes in God, and has been a law abiding citizen, is somehow demonized by the republican party because somehow all unions are evil, and the USPS is evil because its a governmental service.
So give me a candidate that wouldn't pull the **** in the above link, and I'd vote for him/her. Yet I'm sure if I asked you, you couldn't imagine voting for a Democrat because they're all liberal godless heathens who want to take away your guns and money.Uhh Who's further from the center again?
peacepipe
09-07-2012, 09:51 AM
The stock market crash (dot com bubble burst) began on March 10, 2000...8 months before George W. Bush was voted into office, and 10 months before he was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2001. Facts are interesting aren't they.
http://www.simple-stock-trading.com/images/stock_market_crash_chart_Nasdaq_still_not_recovere d.png
Like I said, your hatred for George Bush is quite misplaced. If you hate him for retaliating against 9/11, that's your choice...but the Congressional Democrats all voted to go to war, and Obama has expanded the wars.
great example of dems not being obstructionists during GWB admin.
TonyR
09-07-2012, 10:27 AM
Democrats pretend to hate him for the Iraq and Afghanistan wars...even though Obama expanded the war effort in Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan.
At least he didn't take any of our rights away (unlike Obama).
^ Yet more stupidity. Comparing Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan involvement to Iraq and Afghanistan. Dumb.
And "rights"? Seriously? You're reaching.
TonyR
09-07-2012, 10:30 AM
The stock market crash (dot com bubble burst) began on March 10, 2000...8 months before George W. Bush was voted into office, and 10 months before he was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2001. Facts are interesting aren't they.
You mean like the fact that there's no comparison between the dot com bubble and the Great Recession? Yes, that is an interesting fact. Keep trying.
houghtam
09-07-2012, 10:32 AM
^ Yet more stupidity. Comparing Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan involvement to Iraq and Afghanistan. Dumb.
And "rights"? Seriously? You're reaching.
Well as far as foreign policy goes, there's pretty much no leg to stand on for the right. In fact, foreign policy has been a weakness for the Republicans since Bush took office. Obama vowed to end the war in Iraq. He did. I have full faith that he'll end the war in Afghanistan in his second term.
pricejj
09-07-2012, 10:37 AM
^ Yet more stupidity. Comparing Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan involvement to Iraq and Afghanistan. Dumb.
And "rights"? Seriously? You're reaching.
There were 30,000 troops in Afghanistan when Bush left office. Obama increased the Afghanistan troop level to 100,000 troops...and methodically bombs innocent civilians in Pakistan too. Like I said, if you're hating on Bush for retaliating against 9/11, and trying to prevent another one...direct your hate towards Obama and the Democrats too. If you haven't noticed, U.S. foreign policy doesn't change with Presidents.
Forcing someone to purchase over-priced, unecessary private healthcare insurance, and fully subsidize someone elses birth control, is certainly an infringement of my rights, and my main point of contention with the Obama administration. That, and the >$1T deficits that he created in 2009 while dramatically increasing federal spending without raising taxes to pay for it.
great example of dems not being obstructionists during GWB admin.
What did Obama and the Democrats attempt to pass that Republicans struck down? Obama's jobs bill? Really? That peace of garbage couldn't even pass the Democrat controlled Senate. You got everything you wanted (Obamacare, Dodd-Frank) when you had the super-majority. The Democrat Senate hasn't even passed a budget in over 3 years. Your claims of obstructionism aren't true.
TonyR
09-07-2012, 10:38 AM
Well as far as foreign policy goes, there's pretty much no leg to stand on for the right...
And Romney/Ryan have no foreign policy experience. And the foreign policy ideas they do mention are frightening to the point where they aren't electable. And yet this is hardly being discussed, as if foreign policy hardly matters any more.
pricejj
09-07-2012, 10:41 AM
Obama vowed to end the war in Iraq.
...by adhering to Bush's withdrawal timeline. Congratulations...too bad he wanted to keep troops in Iraq, and the Iraqi government wouldn't let him.
The false Democrat anti-war bravado is laughable.
TonyR
09-07-2012, 10:41 AM
There were 30,000 troops in Afghanistan when Bush left office. Obama increased the Afghanistan troop level to 100,000 troops...and methodically bombs innocent civilians in Pakistan too. Like I said, if you're hating on Bush for retaliating against 9/11, and trying to prevent another one...direct your hate towards Obama and the Democrats too. If you haven't noticed, U.S. foreign policy doesn't change with Presidents.
I understand all that. But Obama didn't get us into these wars based on lies, and I don't think he would have. But once in you can't just walk away. He is doing what his military advisers recommend. Do I agree with the way it's all been handled, and apologize for all of it? No, I don't. But you can't begin to compare what Obama has done with what the Bush admin did.
peacepipe
09-07-2012, 10:41 AM
There were 30,000 troops in Afghanistan when Bush left office. Obama increased the Afghanistan troop level to 100,000 troops...and methodically bombs innocent civilians in Pakistan too. Like I said, if you're hating on Bush for retaliating against 9/11, and trying to prevent another one...direct your hate towards Obama and the Democrats too. If you haven't noticed, U.S. foreign policy doesn't change with Presidents.
Forcing someone to purchase over-priced, unecessary private healthcare insurance, and fully subsidize someone elses birth control, is certainly an infringement of my rights, and my main point of contention with the Obama administration. That, and the >$1T deficits that he created in 2009 while dramatically increasing federal spending without raising taxes to pay for it.
What did Obama and the Democrats attempt to pass that Republicans struck down? Obama's jobs bill? Really? That peace of garbage couldn't even pass the Democrat controlled Senate. You got everything you wanted (Obamacare, Dodd-Frank) when you had the super-majority. The Democrat Senate hasn't even passed a budget in over 3 years. Your claims of obstructionism aren't true.
you're FOS.
Dexter
09-07-2012, 10:44 AM
Forcing someone to purchase over-priced, unecessary private healthcare insurance, and fully subsidize someone elses birth control, is certainly an infringement of my rights, and my main point of contention with the Obama administration. That, and the >$1T deficits that he created in 2009 while dramatically increasing federal spending without raising taxes to pay for it.
Uh, hasn't overpriced private healthcare insurance always been a problem? How is this something new in Obama's plan? I guess republicans don't force you to have any sort of health insurance though. Because they're completely fine with you just dying from lack of healthcare insurance since you're not rich enough to afford it.
That or you aren't a healthy white male without a pre-existing condition.
^ But it was an excellent post, Dex. Well said. You summed up a lot of my feelings pretty well. It's really pretty sad, and the two righties who have posted in this thread so far illustrate perfectly just how strong the righty propaganda is and how deluded and out of touch those who have succumbed to it are. A rational, moderate GOP is exactly what this country needs right now. And a rational, moderate GOP ticket would have run away with this election. Instead we have this mess. Sigh.
Thanks, and I agree. Apparently we don't understand how moderate these republicans are though according to other posters. They haven't alienated independents or their more moderate republican base at all right? Apparently my mother who is 58 years old and has been a registered independent since she could vote, and has voted for a republican every election until 2008 doesn't know what a moderate republican is. LOL
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-07-2012, 11:45 AM
you're FOS.
:yep:
He's making guys like barryr and cutthemdown look like Rhodes Scholars. Ha!
Mecklomaniac
09-07-2012, 11:53 AM
I understand all that. But Obama didn't get us into these wars based on lies, and I don't think he would have. But once in you can't just walk away. He is doing what his military advisers recommend. Do I agree with the way it's all been handled, and apologize for all of it? No, I don't. But you can't begin to compare what Obama has done with what the Bush admin did.
http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/data/upimages/soldiers_death_graph.jpg
Sixty-nine percent of the U.S. casualties in the decade-long Afghan War--1,241 out of 1,810--have occurred since President Barack Obama was inaugurated and decided to escalate U.S. involvement in Afghanistan. Is it all Obama's fault, no, but the surge in Afghanistan was not as well planned and implemented as it was in Iraq.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-07-2012, 11:57 AM
^
You should be ashamed of yourself for using our troops as political footballs.
Why do you hate America?
Rigs11
09-07-2012, 12:04 PM
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/408365_526785717346944_2052239318_n.jpg
That was awesome.Obama put the smackdown on mittens.
elsid13
09-07-2012, 01:26 PM
http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/data/upimages/soldiers_death_graph.jpg
Sixty-nine percent of the U.S. casualties in the decade-long Afghan War--1,241 out of 1,810--have occurred since President Barack Obama was inaugurated and decided to escalate U.S. involvement in Afghanistan. Is it all Obama's fault, no, but the surge in Afghanistan was not as well planned and implemented as it was in Iraq.
You do realize as you expand the number of troops in country, there will be more KIA and WIA because you are enter areas of the territory held by enemy? NATO and US force aren't useless UN blue helmets that sit in their barracks and don't seek and destroy the bad guys.
And the surge in sandbox was planned and coordinate by the same CENTCOM staff that oversaw the Iraq operations.
Phantom
09-07-2012, 02:10 PM
What ever happened to the scrolling "Soldiers Killed" count on news channels? I wonder if Code Pink is still protesting the recruiting centers. I used to hear about them daily.
Must not fit the agenda anymore.
Phantom
09-07-2012, 02:16 PM
In all fairness to the President, he was speaking to this gene pool:
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WOW!! Ideologues at their finest. Seriously, those were some of the least intelligent comments I've seen. Hopefully they interviewed 1000 people to find these 12 kooks.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-07-2012, 04:54 PM
What ever happened to the scrolling "Soldiers Killed" count on news channels? I wonder if Code Pink is still protesting the recruiting centers. I used to hear about them daily.
Must not fit the agenda anymore.
News September 6, 2012
CODEPINK Activist Arrested After “YES WE CAN END WAR” 40 Foot Pink Slip Banner Drop Near Democratic Convention (http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=6227)September 6, 2012
September 5, 2012
CODEPINK ACTIONS AT THE DNC, SEPTEMBER 5, 2012: Justice for Palestine, Money out of Politics, End all Wars (http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=6225)September 5, 2012
September 5, 2012
CODEPINK Activist Speaks Out During Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer Speech At Democratic Convention: End the War in Afghanistan, Stop the Killer Drones (http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=6226)September 5, 2012
September 3, 2012
CODEPINK ACTIONS AT THE DNC: Bust up Big Banks, Corporate Money out of Politics, Cut War Funding (http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=6224)September 4, 2012
September 2, 2012
CODEPINK Women to DNC: Bust up Big Banks, $ Out of Politics, End Wars; From RNC to DNC, CODEPINK brings creative protests (http://www.codepink4peace.org/article.php?id=6221)
You FAIL. :wave:
barryr
09-07-2012, 05:41 PM
What ever happened to the scrolling "Soldiers Killed" count on news channels? I wonder if Code Pink is still protesting the recruiting centers. I used to hear about them daily.
Must not fit the agenda anymore.
No, they aren't since they like everything else they are about politics than some phony principle they supposedly have.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-07-2012, 05:46 PM
No, they aren't since they like everything else they are about politics than some phony principle they supposedly have.
Post #54 just proved you wrong, dummy. :wave:
barryr
09-07-2012, 05:50 PM
Post #54 just proved you wrong, dummy. :wave:
Yeah, they are really out in full order. In fact, where are you dummy being upset about troops still in Afghanistan. You must be living in these threads, but for you see, I usually have you on ignore, so I don't see all of your cartoons, er posts.
L.A. BRONCOS FAN
09-07-2012, 05:54 PM
Yeah, they are really out in full order. In fact, where are you dummy being upset about troops still in Afghanistan. You must be living in these threads, but for you see, I usually have you on ignore, so I don't see all of your cartoons, er posts.
Dinglebarry's claims are shown to be untrue.
What does he do?
Change the subject.
At least he's staying true to form.
Requiem
09-07-2012, 06:55 PM
It was established a long time ago that barrytard is a pathological liar.