Mitt Romney's family baptized Ann Romney's atheist father into Mormon church a year AFTER his death

[GreasyQtip]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093241/Mitt-Romneys-family-baptized-Ann-Romneys-atheist-father-Mormon-church-year-AFTER-death.html#ixzz24j2chPJo

He remained true to his convictions and considered organized religion 'drudgery' and 'hogwash'.
Ann's brother Roderick is quoted as saying that their father 'considered people who were religious to be weak in the knees'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093241/Mitt-Romneys-family-baptized-Ann-Romneys-atheist-father-Mormon-church-year-AFTER-death.html#ixzz25EC8m67k

Religion strikes again. I guess they can make him religious even if he didn't want?

So cooky they believe all the sudden this man is now Mormon because a family member stood in for him and had water splashed on him. In all honesty I don't see the difference in baptizing a dead person with no choice and baptizing a baby with no choice. But some times forcing religion is the only way it will persist, its way to hard to explain rationally to someone.

[lonestar]

THe Key it is rational people.

I suspect that is over your pay grade.

[houghtam]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2093241/Mitt-Romneys-family-baptized-Ann-Romneys-atheist-father-Mormon-church-year-AFTER-death.html#ixzz24j2chPJo



Religion strikes again. I guess they can make him religious even if he didn't want?

So cooky they believe all the sudden this man is now Mormon because a family member stood in for him and had water splashed on him. In all honesty I don't see the difference in baptizing a dead person with no choice and baptizing a baby with no choice. But some times forcing religion is the only way it will persist, its way to hard to explain rationally to someone.

Although this doesn't really do much to add to the political discussion (other than, of course, to point out the silliness of religion and thus including religion in a political discussion), it is a good point to bring up yet again of the utter stupidity of the things some people believe.

Here we have a guy who swore off religion his entire life, and his family coming in after he died and erasing all of that away with a magic splash of water. I wonder how these people would feel if a Muslim "baptized" their dead bodies against their wishes.

Baptizing babies is a product of the middle ages, and was developed in order to "expand the brand", so to speak. This imaginary place was invented where all the unbaptized babies go, and everyone thought "aww, how sad, I don't want my baby to be alone for eternity, I want him to live in our mansion in heaven, so what's another 10 gold piece baptism fee?"

[orangeatheist]

Here we have a guy who swore off religion his entire life, and his family coming in after he died and erasing all of that away with a magic splash of water. I wonder how these people would feel if a Muslim "baptized" their dead bodies against their wishes.


Dead bodies don't feel anything. Who cares what the living do to make themselves feel better? As a devout atheist I certainly don't want to participate in any religious activity but if people want to pray for me, hold a religious memorial when I'm dead, baptize me after I'm gone, who really cares? It's meaningless to the one who's dead and may help some family member crackpot feel better while they're still living. In the end, it doesn't matter because baptism is about as effective for getting someone into heaven as stepping on a crack is effective in breaking your mother's back. As an atheist, the whole thing sort of makes me giggle that there are those who take such actions seriously.

But such actions DO make me concerned about a living man who is running for the highest office in our country. What other sort of rabbit's feet does this guy carry in his pocket that he feels he needs to function in society?

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[ant1999e]

Although this doesn't really do much to add to the political discussion (other than, of course, to point out the silliness of religion and thus including religion in a political discussion), it is a good point to bring up yet again of the utter stupidity of the things some people believe.

Here we have a guy who swore off religion his entire life, and his family coming in after he died and erasing all of that away with a magic splash of water. I wonder how these people would feel if a Muslim "baptized" their dead bodies against their wishes.

Baptizing babies is a product of the middle ages, and was developed in order to "expand the brand", so to speak. This imaginary place was invented where all the unbaptized babies go, and everyone thought "aww, how sad, I don't want my baby to be alone for eternity, I want him to live in our mansion in heaven, so what's another 10 gold piece baptism fee?"

So the left is concerned about what is don't after a person dies but couldn't care less what happens to a person before they're born???

P.S. Q Tip is a prime example for the need of a 100 post ruleROFL!

[GreasyQtip]

So the left is concerned about what is don't after a person dies but couldn't care less what happens to a person before they're born???

P.S. Q Tip is a prime example for the need of a 100 post ruleROFL!

Actually I care about the unborn that is why I am pro choice.

Are we living in the same world with 1000s of unwanted children


And an aside I made a mistake posting and it is non correctable if I couldn't post till 100 I would still have had the issue posting, go pray for me you idiot

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Ann's brother Roderick is quoted as saying that their father 'considered people who were religious to be weak in the knees'.

So did the heroine of the contemporary flying monkey right, viz., Ayn Rand.

[Fedaykin]

Gotta love kooky religious ideas.

Nothing like a group of people putting a big sign over their heads that says "whack jobs here".

[ant1999e]

Actually I care about the unborn that is why I am pro choice.

Are we living in the same world with 1000s of unwanted children


And an aside I made a mistake posting and it is non correctable if I couldn't post till 100 I would still have had the issue posting, go pray for me you idiot

Gotcha, that makes so much sense.

[Requiem]

I was never baptized. **** yeah!

[Blart]

hahahaha

[Jetmeck]

their god live on the planet....KOLOV >BATCHITCRAZY

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

^

L0L! :laugh:

Mormonism is on a par with Scientology.

[ant1999e]

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[Jetmeck]

Your are predictable except everytime you try to deflect and somehow equate this to that,,,etc.........you miss terribly.

[ant1999e]

Your are predictable except everytime you try to deflect and somehow equate this to that,,,etc.........you miss terribly.

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. Did you criticize Obama for going to church where the pastor gave anti-American sermons? Think about that. The President attending service where the pastor spoke negatively about the U.S. Sermons where he said we deserved 9-11. I think that is a much bigger issue than what Ann Romney's family did to a proxy of her dad. Seriously, get a ****ing clue...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Did you criticize Obama for going to church where the pastor gave anti-racist redneck sermons?

Fixed.

[GreasyQtip]

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. Did you criticize Obama for going to church where the pastor gave anti-American sermons? Think about that. The President attending service where the pastor spoke negatively about the U.S. Sermons where he said we deserved 9-11. I think that is a much bigger issue than what Ann Romney's family did to a proxy of her dad. Seriously, get a ****ing clue...

I think you completely missed the point on this one, it is amazing what a person could possibly believe and still be running to rule this major of a country

As humorous as lonestar and your uninsightful jabs, hey but at least we do not even have to worry about wasting time fact checking your posts. Just "witty" quirps, reminds me of the whole RNC.

Romney goes "Obama said he would stop raising the waters" all idiots chuckle. Real people consider it as an actual issue and discuss it.

So again, just humorous that someone is this kooky and could be my president. I'm the new resident atheist and I like to get my jolly's by laughing at conservatives struggle with logic so get used to it, you two confirm my resolve more than I ever thought possible, and for that I thank you.

[ant1999e]

I think you completely missed the point on this one, it is amazing what a person could possibly believe and still be running to rule this major of a country

So again, just humorous that someone is this kooky and could be my president. I'm the new resident atheist and I like to get my jolly's by laughing at conservatives struggle with logic so get used to it, you two confirm my resolve more than I ever thought possible, and for that I thank you.

I have a news flash for you, a majority of the country is Christian. Baptism is an important part of that. 99% of our presidents were Christian so I guess you've been humored your whole life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliations_of_Presidents_of_the_United _States

As far as missing the point, I find it ignorant of you to find belief in baptism amazing for a Presidential nominee but that a President was a member of a congregation where the pastor was blatantly ANTI-AMERICAN is perfectly acceptable.

And FYI, atheists who mock and demean Christians are just as ignorant as the crazy Christians who harass atheists, as ignorant as white supremacists and as ignorant as anti American pastors. But it's obvious by your maturity level that ignorant is what you're going for.

[GreasyQtip]

I have a news flash for you, a majority of the country is Christian. Baptism is an important part of that. 99% of our presidents were Christian so I guess you've been humored your whole life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_affiliations_of_Presidents_of_the_United _States

As far as missing the point, I find it ignorant of you to find belief in baptism amazing for a Presidential nominee but that a President was a member of a congregation where the pastor was blatantly ANTI-AMERICAN is perfectly acceptable.

And FYI, atheists who mock and demean Christians are just as ignorant as the crazy Christians who harass atheists, as ignorant as white supremacists and as ignorant as anti American pastors. But it's obvious by your maturity level that ignorant is what you're going for.

I didn't say anything about the population of this country and thinking baptism is important, that has nothing to do with anything.

How many of those 99% presidents baptized an atheist after death and believed in it?

I laugh at President Obama's belief in a god as much as Romney, but when you start letting that view dictate policy it is a problem, and Obama is much more in touch with reality in that respect. Values science, education, and the environment.

So no I do not agree with Obama going and worshiping someone "antiamerican" however, that is hardly the case black and white.

So three arguments you threw at me and none of them had anything to do with what I said, further proving the right wings need to distract from the real points or just flat out change history.

Finally, the hypocrisy in your last statement rocks almost as much as that other thread you were Hypocritical magoos.

[ant1999e]

I didn't say anything about the population of this country and thinking baptism is important, that has nothing to do with anything.

How many of those 99% presidents baptized an atheist after death and believed in it?

I laugh at President Obama's belief in a god as much as Romney, but when you start letting that view dictate policy it is a problem, and Obama is much more in touch with reality in that respect. Values science, education, and the environment.

So no I do not agree with Obama going and worshiping someone "antiamerican" however, that is hardly the case black and white.

So three arguments you threw at me and none of them had anything to do with what I said, further proving the right wings need to distract from the real points or just flat out change history.

Finally, the hypocrisy in your last statement rocks almost as much as that other thread you were Hippocratic magoos.

It's done by proxy. It isn't like they dug the guy up. Who gives a shyt. That's what they believe. Leave them alone. It doesn't hurt anyone. Why do atheists like you fel the need to attack Christianity at every chance? It makes you as bad as the crazy Christians that attack atheists.

[Requiem]

99% of our Presidents were not Christian. Try again.

[ant1999e]

99% of our Presidents were not Christian. Try again.

You're right, 89%.

[Requiem]

You're right, 89%.

Probably not even that #, but if you want to keep stroking the founding of America based on Christian principles myth, more power to you. Anyone with an elementary education in history would rightfully know otherwise.

[ant1999e]

Probably not even that #, but if you want to keep stroking the founding of America based on Christian principles myth, more power to you. Anyone with an elementary education in history would rightfully know otherwise.

I posted documentation for my numbers. Instead of just calling me wrong, tell us oh wise one, what are the true numbers?

BTW, notice how I didn't attempt to belittle you as you did me. A little maturity.

[Requiem]

I posted documentation for my numbers. Instead of just calling me wrong, tell us oh wise one, what are the true numbers?

BTW, notice how I didn't attempt to belittle you as you did me. A little maturity.

Woops.

[GreasyQtip]

I posted documentation for my numbers. Instead of just calling me wrong, tell us oh wise one, what are the true numbers?

BTW, notice how I didn't attempt to belittle you as you did me. A little maturity.

I just laughed cause I just saw you post this is another thread

But as usual the liberal idiot comes out and you want to blame someone else.

You belittle every chance you get, If I had more time I could have copied 100s of other things.

This again is called hypocrisy, you like to point out everything everyone else does "against" you, yet did you consider you speak the exact same?

Please watch the clip below, this is Bill Nye explaining last week why atheist care

You ask why atheist often take the chance to discredit christianity, or religion in general. It is because the collective beliefs in that religion make it impossible for the vast majority of people in that religion to move on with reality, technology, equality, and the future.

I wish I knew how to embed this video, because it was made for people who hold similar beliefs (not sure your exact beliefs).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU&feature=player_embedded

[BroncoLifer]

Actually I care about the unborn that is why I am pro choice.

Are we living in the same world with 1000s of unwanted children



You're right --- it's a lot easier to just kill them.

[ant1999e]

I just laughed cause I just saw you post this is another thread



You belittle every chance you get, If I had more time I could have copied 100s of other things.

This again is called hypocrisy, you like to point out everything everyone else does "against" you, yet did you consider you speak the exact same?

Please watch the clip below, this is Bill Nye explaining last week why atheist care

You ask why atheist often take the chance to discredit christianity, or religion in general. It is because the collective beliefs in that religion make it impossible for the vast majority of people in that religion to move on with reality, technology, equality, and the future.

I wish I knew how to embed this video, because it was made for people who hold similar beliefs (not sure your exact beliefs).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbYJfwFgOU&feature=player_embedded

You are truly a message board rookie. I suggest you slow it down a bit and learn how things work. The two messages were posts to different people with different histories. Apples and oranges.

To your religion point, so you're saying that you mock our beliefs for our own good. You only want to help us evolve? So you want to push your beliefs on us? There's a word for that but it escapes me at the moment;).

As far as embedding, click share, embed, and copy the text then paste it here.

[Jetmeck]

I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. Did you criticize Obama for going to church where the pastor gave anti-American sermons? Think about that. The President attending service where the pastor spoke negatively about the U.S. Sermons where he said we deserved 9-11. I think that is a much bigger issue than what Ann Romney's family did to a proxy of her dad. Seriously, get a ****ing clue...

Do we know for a fcat he went to repeated sermons from this guy ?

Regardless that does not mean he agreed with the preacher.....did it ? I listened to many sermons in my youth and agreed with very damn little of their BS.

Romney did baptize a dead guy who was an atheist.........that is crazy no matter how you spin it.............

[nyuk nyuk]

BTW, notice how I didn't attempt to belittle you as you did me. A little maturity.

C'mon, don't deprive him of his only weapon. Have mercy!

[nyuk nyuk]

Romney did baptize a dead guy who was an atheist.........that is crazy no matter how you spin it.............

My question is why the selective religious scrutiny. That is the craziest thing about all of this.

Predictable, though.

[peacepipe]

My question is why the selective religious scrutiny. That is the craziest thing about all of this.

Predictable, though.

Hard not to be selective. I don't know of other religions that baptise the dead.

[Jetmeck]

C'mon, don't deprive him of his only weapon. Have mercy!


great name for a republican supporter.

do you read and comprehend history ?

do you understand that giving tax breaks to the rich will
not balance the budget ?

do you take responsiblilty for you party's ****s up and the fact that thay have blocked every attempt by Obama to fix those republican mistakes ?

do you understand if you screw the pooch and then block an attempt to fix it......you cannot blame the other party ?


if you cannot take responsibility for your party's mistakes and their obstruction anything that comes from your mouth is a joke.

[Requiem]

C'mon, don't deprive him of his only weapon. Have mercy!

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[nyuk nyuk]

Please watch the clip below, this is Bill Nye explaining last week why atheist care

You ask why atheist often take the chance to discredit christianity, or religion in general. It is because the collective beliefs in that religion make it impossible for the vast majority of people in that religion to move on with reality, technology, equality, and the future.

First of all, the plural of atheist is atheists.

Secondly, it would seem to me that one basic freedom that advances humanity is the freedom of conscience, including that of religion, and yet atheist governments have been at the fore of suppressing that freedom, to the tune of tens of millions.

Atheists always bicker about religious people allegedly "Bible thumping" at them, yet they're doing they own version of it with secular humanism. What aspect of freedom is being respected when atheists come along and rip down nativity scenes? It seems to me that at the best, what atheists want is for religious people (specifically Christians) to keep their mouths shut and their faith in the closet akin to the Jews in Nazi Germany.

[Jetmeck]

My question is why the selective religious scrutiny. That is the craziest thing about all of this.

Predictable, though.

Do we know for a fcat he went to repeated sermons from this guy ?

Regardless that does not mean he agreed with the preacher.....did it ? I listened to many sermons in my youth and agreed with very damn little of their BS.

Romney did baptize a dead guy who was an atheist.........that is crazy no matter how you spin it.............

[nyuk nyuk]

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I wonder if The Butt has an Asian fetishist sub-section?

[nyuk nyuk]

Do we know for a fcat he went to repeated sermons from this guy ?

Regardless that does not mean he agreed with the preacher.....did it ? I listened to many sermons in my youth and agreed with very damn little of their BS.

Romney did baptize a dead guy who was an atheist.........that is crazy no matter how you spin it.............

Who gives a crap? Again - the bigger issue is why the selective religious scrutiny. Why didn't we hear Joseph Lieberman's religion scrutinized when he was running for VP? Why are certain groups impervious to scrutiny and criticism?

It seems to me that it is such a blatant political stunt, that anyone in their right or decent mind wouldn't give an ear to it, let alone gobble it up line Cap'n Crunch.

[ant1999e]

Do we know for a fcat he went to repeated sermons from this guy ?

Regardless that does not mean he agreed with the preacher.....did it ? I listened to many sermons in my youth and agreed with very damn little of their BS.

Romney did baptize a dead guy who was an atheist.........that is crazy no matter how you spin it.............

You're right. He only went to the good anti American reverends church for 20 years. That is nothing compared to a PROXY baptism for a loved one because they believe a person must be baptised to go to heaven.

[Requiem]

Now nyuk nyuk is stating:

Atheism = Secular Humanism -- vice versa.

Not even ****ing close.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Again - the bigger issue is why the selective religious scrutiny.

::)

Riiiiiight - because there's nothing exceptional about baptizing a guy who's been dead for a year.

All religions do it.

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

He only went to the good anti American reverends church for 20 years. .

Where "anti-American" = "stands up to racist rednecks."

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[Jetmeck]

You're right. He only went to the good anti American reverends church for 20 years. That is nothing compared to a PROXY baptism for a loved one because they believe a person must be baptised to go to heaven.


you may be right about how long he went.....IDK.

it doesn't mean, nor can you prove he agreed with any of your so called anti american sermons the guy gave. your projecting an d hoping. there is no basis of facts here at all.


however romney did baptize a dead guy, that is not in dispute.

[ant1999e]

you may be right about how long he went.....IDK.

it doesn't mean, nor can you prove he agreed with any of your so called anti american sermons the guy gave. your projecting an d hoping. there is no basis of facts here at all.


however romney did baptize a dead guy, that is not in dispute.

Neither is in dispute. Both are peculiar issues. He went for 20 years and the sermons were anti-American. No doubt about it. Oprah attended for a short time left because of the anti-American sermons. I never said he agreed with the reverend. I just find it a little more crazy that he went for 20 years, wrote a book "Audacity of Hope" that was inspired by one of his sermons, was married by and children .....WERE BAPTIZED by him. Yeah, you're right. There's no way he agreed with him.

Yeah, a PROXY baptism for a dead guy is way crazier.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

He went for 20 years and the sermons were anti-American. No doubt about it. Oprah attended for a short time left because of the anti-American sermons.

::)

Had you lived during MLK's time, you'd have undoubtedly believed MLK was the most "anti-American" pastor ever.

[GreasyQtip]

You are truly a message board rookie. I suggest you slow it down a bit and learn how things work. The two messages were posts to different people with different histories. Apples and oranges.

To your religion point, so you're saying that you mock our beliefs for our own good. You only want to help us evolve? So you want to push your beliefs on us? There's a word for that but it escapes me at the moment;).

As far as embedding, click share, embed, and copy the text then paste it here.

You are a logical thought rookie. I do not concern myself with your beliefs if it doesn't affect me, because they are beliefs.

I am concerned with reality, the great thing about science is it is true whether you believe in it or not. I do not care at all if you evolve or change, I just would like to have some fun moving the species along while I am on the planet without radical intervention because people have beliefs. You look hard enough you'll find someone who believes in big foot, you would laugh if they held that belief and wanted to run the country, or make decisions that affect you.

Thank you for the help embedding, that does not change the conversation regardless of your usual try at distraction, I could go one of two ways here.

Could accuse you have wasting so much time posting so much I can't keep up. Don't you have a job or anything? But that would be a direct quote from you, and I wouldn't want that, that would be the "mature" thing to do.

Since I am immature, I chose to just say, if we had this conversation on a plane it would still be a conversation without your giggles about how rookie I am at posting on this board.


And I just realized, are you saying it is okay to belittle and be rude to one poster, but when another does it to you, you accuse them of belittling and whine?

[ant1999e]

You are a logical thought rookie. I do not concern myself with your beliefs if it doesn't affect me, because they are beliefs.

I am concerned with reality, the great thing about science is it is true whether you believe in it or not. I do not care at all if you evolve or change, I just would like to have some fun moving the species along while I am on the planet without radical intervention because people have beliefs. You look hard enough you'll find someone who believes in big foot, you would laugh if they held that belief and wanted to run the country, or make decisions that affect you.

Thank you for the help embedding, that does not change the conversation regardless of your usual try at distraction, I could go one of two ways here.

Could accuse you have wasting so much time posting so much I can't keep up. Don't you have a job or anything? But that would be a direct quote from you, and I wouldn't want that, that would be the "mature" thing to do.

Since I am immature, I chose to just say, if we had this conversation on a plane it would still be a conversation without your giggles about how rookie I am at posting on this board.


And I just realized, are you saying it is okay to belittle and be rude to one poster, but when another does it to you, you accuse them of belittling and whine?

This post is full of fail. First you say you're not concerned with beliefs but then you say you are.

And yes I have a job but it's the weekend you dumb ass.

You just realized??? A little slow aren't you? Like I said different history/relationships/respect for different people. Like you, you've proven to be a total idiot. I don't give a shyt about respecting you and your opinion because of the way you (a new poster) have started out. Others here that I disagree with but think are capable of mature discussion I will show more respect.

[Jetmeck]

This post is full of fail. First you say you're not concerned with beliefs but then you say you are.

And yes I have a job but it's the weekend you dumb ass.

You just realized??? A little slow aren't you? Like I said different history/relationships/respect for different people. Like you, you've proven to be a total idiot. I don't give a shyt about respecting you and your opinion because of the way you (a new poster) have started out. Others here that I disagree with but think are capable of mature discussion I will show more respect.

Until you take responsibility for the shape of the economy when it was handed off and the fact that it was in free fall at that time and the fact that republicans conspired to obstruct everything to fix it anything you say is useless. Any blame you point at OBAMA is nothing short of hyprocisy without taking reponsibility for the above.

Are you a hyprocite or not ?

[ant1999e]

Until you take responsibility for the shape of the economy when it was handed off and the fact that it was in free fall at that time and the fact that republicans conspired to obstruct everything to fix it anything you say is useless. Any blame you point at OBAMA is nothing short of hyprocisy without taking reponsibility for the above.

Are you a hyprocite or not ?

Wrong thread dumbass.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Until you take responsibility for the shape of the economy when it was handed off and the fact that it was in free fall at that time and the fact that republicans conspired to obstruct everything to fix it anything you say is useless. Any blame you point at OBAMA is nothing short of hyprocisy without taking reponsibility for the above.

Are you a hyprocite or not ?

Exactly.

What these right-wing pinheads don't understand is that after eight years of covering Bush's flank they have ZERO credibility and even less of a claim to any sort of moral high ground.

These people are completely without shame.

[GreasyQtip]

This post is full of fail. First you say you're not concerned with beliefs but then you say you are.

And yes I have a job but it's the weekend you dumb ass.

You just realized??? A little slow aren't you? Like I said different history/relationships/respect for different people. Like you, you've proven to be a total idiot. I don't give a shyt about respecting you and your opinion because of the way you (a new poster) have started out. Others here that I disagree with but think are capable of mature discussion I will show more respect.

Championship

If this is the way to a mature discussion, I take this as a compliment.

Some day we will all be able to have a mature discussion like you. Until then I suppose everyone but you is doing it wrong. Read your post, you are proud of the way you post yet accuse others of immaturity.

Go look at how you responded when I asked if you had a job compared to how another poster responded when you said the exact same thing to him. He undoubtedly thinks of you as you think of me, but he handled it with maturity. I don't care about maturity, but for someone who runs around like they are the king of who is and isn't mature, this is cute.

[GreasyQtip]

Exactly.

What these right-wing pinheads don't understand is that after eight years of covering Bush's flank they have ZERO credibility and even less of a claim to any sort of moral high ground.

These people are completely without shame.

It is soooo frustrating, people love to say it was Obama or even Clinton but there is no way it could have been Bush, the president when everything went wrong.

[DenverBrit]

So you want to push your beliefs on us? There's a word for that but it escapes me at the moment.


Fundamentalism.

[ant1999e]

Championship

If this is the way to a mature discussion, I take this as a compliment.

Some day we will all be able to have a mature discussion like you. Until then I suppose everyone but you is doing it wrong. Read your post, you are proud of the way you post yet accuse others of immaturity.

Go look at how you responded when I asked if you had a job compared to how another poster responded when you said the exact same thing to him. He undoubtedly thinks of you as you think of me, but he handled it with maturity. I don't care about maturity, but for someone who runs around like they are the king of who is and isn't mature, this is cute.

1. I am tired of explaining the difference between apples and oranges. The comment to the one individual and was based off history here, something you don't have so wouldn't understand. I didn't speak to you about being mature so I don't know why you insist on referring to something between another individual and myself.
2.I'm guessing you've realized that you lost the thread argument and will now focus on attacking me instead of staying focused on the topic. That's fine. At least keep the attacks in the same thread.

[barryr]

Until you take responsibility for the shape of the economy when it was handed off and the fact that it was in free fall at that time and the fact that republicans conspired to obstruct everything to fix it anything you say is useless. Any blame you point at OBAMA is nothing short of hyprocisy without taking reponsibility for the above.

Are you a hyprocite or not ?

Obama's first 2 years, had a democrat controlled Congress, yet still couldn't get a budget passed. But it's all the republicans fault though. That only makes sense to the blinded liberal hacks who refuse to deal with reality.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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That's what they get for trying to reach across the aisle to your crime syndicate of a party.