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Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:30 PM
The Denver Broncos have announced seven members of their practice squad. They have one more move to make.

The list is highlighted by defensive tackle Ben Garland. The Air Force product is a team favorite and he has a chance to develop. Also on the Denver practice squad are safety Duke Ihenacho, tight end Cornelius Ingram, running back Jeremiah Johnson, receiver Greg Orton, nose tackle Sealver Siliga and guard Wayne Tribue.



http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/47719/broncos-announce-practice-squad

Bacchus
08-31-2012, 04:32 PM
I hope another team signs him. He is too good to be on a practice squad.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:33 PM
I hope another team signs him. He is too good to be on a practice squad.


Why couldn't it have been Haine?



???

Quoydogs
08-31-2012, 04:34 PM
Why couldn't it have been Haine?



???

This ^5

jerseyboiler120
08-31-2012, 04:34 PM
Why bring in Seneca Wallace?

Bacchus
08-31-2012, 04:36 PM
Why couldn't it have been Haine?



???

ask elway

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:38 PM
Why bring in Seneca Wallace?


Experienced back up that isn't named Haine.

Drunken.Broncoholic
08-31-2012, 04:40 PM
Seems like back up QB is the most talked about position. HOPEFULLY it's a position that never sees the field this year, and come the end of the season all of this is just an afterthought.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:42 PM
ask elway


Elway hired Fox. drafted Von and snagged Manning if he wants to keep Heinous Hanie so be it...


:thumbsdow

Bacchus
08-31-2012, 04:44 PM
Seems like back up QB is the most talked about position. HOPEFULLY it's a position that never sees the field this year, and come the end of the season all of this is just an afterthought.

Well, we are talking about cuts, when you talk about cuts it is udsually dealing with the backups.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:44 PM
I hope another team signs him. He is too good to be on a practice squad.




Adam Weber could return on practice squad
https://twitter.com/PostBroncos/status/241666587231395841

broncos-rock
08-31-2012, 04:46 PM
I wonder if they dont bring him into to simulate cam newton and rg3. To help the defense prepare!

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:46 PM
Elway's press conference scheduled to start in 15 minutes. We should have full list of roster moves by then


https://twitter.com/PostBroncos/status/241667836647448576


Elway press conference won't start until 5:30.......


https://twitter.com/PostBroncos/status/241670423308296192


;)

Paladin
08-31-2012, 04:48 PM
Actually, they are saving Hanie and a 7th for a trade with the Chefs for a 1.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:48 PM
I wonder if they dont bring him into to simulate cam newton and rg3. To help the defense prepare!





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:thumbs:

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:51 PM
Actually, they are saving Hanie and a 7th for a trade with the Chefs for a 1.


True...... they need some one to replace Stanzi



http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/47454/stanzi-stood-no-chance-to-beat-out-quinn

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:52 PM
Broncos players have been oddly silent on Twitter since returning to Denver early this a.m. https://twitter.com/PostBroncos/status/241668189174517760

Drunken.Broncoholic
08-31-2012, 04:52 PM
Well, we are talking about cuts, when you talk about cuts it is udsually dealing with the backups.

Yep. And considering the position makes or breaks the season if that starter goes down. Man Plan A needs to work.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:55 PM
Ben Garland cut could be brought back to practice squad.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 04:57 PM
Yep. And considering the position makes or breaks the season if that starter goes down. Man Plan A needs to work.

Not planning on Manning missing anytime soon (208 starts 208 games played). Hanie needs to be cut cos it's the right thing to do.

Jekyll15Hyde
08-31-2012, 04:58 PM
Elway press conference delayed...

go_broncos
08-31-2012, 05:00 PM
Idiots...They should have cut Hanie.
****ing front office doesnt have a clue.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:00 PM
Elway press conference delayed...






Lindsay Jones‏@PostBroncos

In the least shocking news I've heard all day, Elway's press conference pushed back.



https://twitter.com/PostBroncos/status/241670423308296192

jerseyboiler120
08-31-2012, 05:01 PM
Don't need seneca. He stinks.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:01 PM
Idiots...They should have cut Hanie.
****ing front office doesnt have a clue.




^5

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:03 PM
Don't need seneca. He stinks.


Who do you suggest....donovan mcnabb ???

jerseyboiler120
08-31-2012, 05:07 PM
Who do you suggest....donovan mcnabb ???


Haha good one. No, I would stick with our stable as is. If Manning goes down the season is most likely relegated to a wild card game at best. Hanie backing up Manning keeps Brock from having to be thrown into the fire, unless the team wants him to be.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:16 PM
Haha good one. No, I would stick with our stable as is. If Manning goes down the season is most likely relegated to a wild card game at best. Hanie backing up Manning keeps Brock from having to be thrown into the fire, unless the team wants him to be.


I was hoping that Osweiler would have had a good enough showing in the preseason to merit the back up role. Very frustrating to see Russel, Foles, Cousins, and Moore all drafted after Brock showing signs of improvement.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:18 PM
Backup QBs cut so far today: J.McCown (CHI), S.Wallace (CLE), A.Weber (DEN), C.Keenum (HOU), J.Palmer (JAX), B.Hoyer (NE) M.Simms (NYJ), M.Kafka (PHI), Jerrod Johnson (PIT), J.Crompton (WAS).



Yikes!

Gort
08-31-2012, 05:20 PM
Not planning on Manning missing anytime soon (208 starts 208 games played). Hanie needs to be cut cos it's the right thing to do.

huh? are you saying Manning never misses a game?

2011 called. it wants to say "hello" to you.

Hanie is the only backup on the squad with actual NFL experience. he'll be #2.

Osweiler will be #3 because Jack Elway's dad has a crush on him.

Weber is gone unless he chooses to stay in Denver and spend another year on the PS. last year, Buffalo tried to claim him but he rejected their claim and Denver agreed to pay him more than the PS minimum, so he stayed. i doubt he does that again. he got very few snaps in either of the past 2 pre-seasons. it's almost as if Denver wasn't really interested in seeing what he could do and he is here solely as an insurance policy for the insurance policy. i don't see him staying if another team claims him.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:26 PM
QB Josh McCown was among the Bears' cuts today. He supplanted Caleb Hanie last year. Also was Carolina's No. 2 QB under John Fox in 2008-09.



https://twitter.com/MaxBroncos/status/241673861698056192

broncosteven
08-31-2012, 05:29 PM
QB Josh McCown was among the Bears' cuts today. He supplanted Caleb Hanie last year. Also was Carolina's No. 2 QB under John Fox in 2008-09.



https://twitter.com/MaxBroncos/status/241673861698056192

Please no, this guy is actually worse than Haine.

broncosteven
08-31-2012, 05:29 PM
Backup QBs cut so far today: J.McCown (CHI), S.Wallace (CLE), A.Weber (DEN), C.Keenum (HOU), J.Palmer (JAX), B.Hoyer (NE) M.Simms (NYJ), M.Kafka (PHI), Jerrod Johnson (PIT), J.Crompton (WAS).



Yikes!

I would not cut Haine to sign any of these douches

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:29 PM
huh? are you saying Manning never misses a game?

2011 called. it wants to say "hello" to you.



Once he's entrenched in the starting line up he doesn't miss time. The offensive line (even though patch work) did not surrender a sack all preseason long.



:thumbs:

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:32 PM
I would not cut Haine to sign any of these douches

Please no, this guy is actually worse than Haine.


I would cut Haine to bring back Brandstater.

stoxman
08-31-2012, 05:35 PM
buh bye Drayton!! Excellent cut there...:wave:

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:36 PM
RT @ProFootballTalk: Broncos release CB Drayton Florence.



https://twitter.com/CBSSportsNFLDEN/status/241680272330993665

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:37 PM
Still waiting for Elway presser. Originally set for 5, postponed til 5:30. Let's start a pool. I say 5:58.


https://twitter.com/thegarymiller/status/241680728629317632

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:41 PM
buh bye Drayton!! Excellent cut there...:wave:


Cut Drayton and keep THE SQUID



???

broncosteven
08-31-2012, 05:44 PM
Has KM been cut/traded to the lions yet?

extralife
08-31-2012, 05:47 PM
Kafka is a surprising cut in Philly.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:48 PM
Has KM been cut/traded to the lions yet?



No. but Alphonso Smith was!




:thumbs:

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:50 PM
Kafka is a surprising cut in Philly.


Not really Foles played great IMO.

stoxman
08-31-2012, 05:54 PM
Rob...I'm not a Squid fan either....I think we'll bring someone new in at some point

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:54 PM
Full cut list: Blatnick, Bush, Florence, Franklin, Garland, R.Harris, Hill, Hills, Ihenacho, Ingram, J.Johnson, Mohamed, Orton, Robinson,Siliga, S.Thompson, Tribue, Weber.

extralife
08-31-2012, 05:54 PM
Not really Foles played great IMO.

yeah but they seemed big on Kafka, and with Vick as the starter three QBs stats to sound like a good idea.

DBroncos4life
08-31-2012, 05:54 PM
^5

Wow awesome poster to have on your side. Really I haven't seen this much ****ing crying over a backup QB ever.

extralife
08-31-2012, 05:56 PM
Full cut list: Blatnick, Bush, Florence, Franklin, Garland, R.Harris, Hill, Hills, Ihenacho, Ingram, J.Johnson, Mohamed, Orton, Robinson,Siliga, S.Thompson, Tribue, Weber.

Sucks that Ryan Harris couldn't make it. Also how the hell does Tony Carter make it over Squid. Siliga surprises me. Hopefully Robinson makes it to the practice squad.

Moreno and Ayers stick around another year.

stoxman
08-31-2012, 05:56 PM
Did Orlando get cut??

Smilin Assassin
08-31-2012, 05:58 PM
Did Orlando get cut??


No. Jerry Franklin. Rookie lb from arkansas.

stoxman
08-31-2012, 05:58 PM
Did Orlando get cut??

wow...guess so. HATE seeing JJ go....should have been Ball!

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 05:59 PM
John Elway cites Hanie's experience, but said Osweiler "had a good camp ... at this point in time, we decided to go with 3 QBs."


Broncos opted to keep an extra interior OL (CJ Davis) instead of OT (Ryan Harris released)

Elway said Beal's knee injury was more serious than they anticipated last night.

TE Julius Thomas "is finally getting healthy," Elway said. "We think now that he's physically healthy, he'll continue to get better."

stoxman
08-31-2012, 05:59 PM
LOL...thanks...that would have been a bit shocking!

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:02 PM
RB Knowshon Moreno "had a great camp," Elway said. Jeremiah Johnson "played well too," but #Broncos were "excited" about Moreno.


Knowshon Moreno "probably makes us a better football team," Elway said.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
08-31-2012, 06:04 PM
huh? are you saying Manning never misses a game?

2011 called. it wants to say "hello" to you.

Hanie is the only backup on the squad with actual NFL experience. he'll be #2.

Osweiler will be #3 because Jack Elway's dad has a crush on him.

Weber is gone unless he chooses to stay in Denver and spend another year on the PS. last year, Buffalo tried to claim him but he rejected their claim and Denver agreed to pay him more than the PS minimum, so he stayed. i doubt he does that again. he got very few snaps in either of the past 2 pre-seasons. it's almost as if Denver wasn't really interested in seeing what he could do and he is here solely as an insurance policy for the insurance policy. i don't see him staying if another team claims him.

Are you really so stupid as to think he "forgot" about 2011?

Fact is, when he's started a season, he's finished a season. Don't be obtuse.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:04 PM
Andre Caldwell‏@Acaldwell17

Worst day in the NFL final cut day I hate to see friends and teammates released who battled everyday with you but I'm BLESSED to be a BRONCO




https://twitter.com/Acaldwell17/status/241687661507649537

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:06 PM
Are you really so stupid as to think he "forgot" about 2011?

Fact is, when he's started a season, he's finished a season. Don't be obtuse.



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;)

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:08 PM
Elway said Tony Carter is the 4th CB on depth chart now, Omar Bolden the 5th.

Rafael Bush "had a good camp ... there's a chance he may be back."


Elways just described Bruton as a "terror" on special teams. Hence his spot on this 53.


Elway: "Everything is fluid. The only guy that's set is 18. ... If we have chance to get better on waiver wire, we will."

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:10 PM
There was room for three quarterbacks, including Caleb Hanie, and veterans such as linebacker Keith Brooking and safety Jim Leonhard.

There was one surprise among the Broncos' cuts Friday as veteran cornerback Drayton Florence was released.

Florence was beat out by second-year corner Chris Harris for the nickel back position. Florence's release could also mean good news for Tony Carter, a cornerback who played well in the preseason.

Also waived off the Broncos' roster: quarterback Adam Weber, defensive end Jamie blatnick, safety Rafael Bush, linebacker Jerry Franklin, defensive tackle Ben Garland, offensive tackle Ryan Harris, guard Tony Hills, strong safety Duke Ihenacho, middle linebacker Mike Mohamed, cornerbck Syd'Quan Thompson, defensive tackle Sealver Siliga, receivers Greg Orton, Jason Hill and Gerell Robinson, tight end Cornelius Ingram, and guard Wayne Tribue.

The Broncos also placed defensive end Jeremy Beal on season-ending injured reserve and placed tight end Virgil Green and linebacker D.J. Williams on suspended reserve. Green will serve a four-game suspension; Williams six for violating the league's performance-enhancement policy.

Beal spent his rookie season of 2011 on the Broncos' practice squad and was having an impressive preseason until he suffered a knee injury Thursday at Arizona.

Weber also spent his rookie season on the Broncos' practice squad last year.



Read more: Broncos release CB Drayton Florence; Caleb Hanie stays - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_21445429/#ixzz25AjdXRfn
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Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:11 PM
The Denver Broncos became the first team in the AFC West to announce their roster moves. Below is the list. I will have an analysis of the cuts upcoming.

WAIVED/RELEASED

Player Pos. College Exp. Transaction P.S. Eligibility

Jamie Blatnick DE Oklahoma State R Waived Yes

Rafael Bush FS South Carolina St. 3 Waived No

Drayton Florence CB Tusgegee 10 Released No

Jerry Franklin SLB Arkansas R Waived Yes

Ben Garland DT Air Force 1 Waived Yes

Adam Grant G Arizona 1 Waived Yes

Ryan Harris T Notre Dame 5 Released No

Jason Hill WR Washington State 6 Released No

Tony Hills G Texas 5 Released No

Duke Ihenacho SS San Jose State R Waived Yes

Cornelius Ingram TE Florida 2 Waived Yes

Jeremiah Johnson RB Oregon 3 Waived Yes

Mike Mohamed MLB California 2 Waived Yes

Greg Orton WR Purdue 1 Waived Yes

Gerell Robinson WR Arizona State R Waived Yes

Sealver Siliga NT Utah 1 Waived Yes

Syd'Quan Thompson CB California 3 Waived No

Wayne Tribue G Temple R Waived Yes

Adam Weber QB Minnesota 1 Waived Yes

INJURED RESERVE

Player Pos. College Exp. Transaction

Jeremy Beal DE Oklahoma 1 Injured Reserve



RESERVE/SUSPENDED

Player Pos. College Exp. Transaction

Virgil Green TE Nevada 2 Reserve/Suspended

D.J. Williams WLB Miami 9 Reserve/Suspended



http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/47646/broncos-make-their-cuts

oubronco
08-31-2012, 06:11 PM
Elway: "Everything is fluid. The only guy that's set is 18. ... If we have chance to get better on waiver wire, we will."

I like this qoute<!-- / message -->

Br0nc0Buster
08-31-2012, 06:12 PM
Ayers didn't get cut the guys on the fan misread his Twitter and thought he did Orlando obviously didn't get cut the Franklin was that udfa lb

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:12 PM
Willismcgahee‏@WillisMcGahee

“@RyanClady: Let's go Broncos!!!! #BoiseState #BleedBlue”lol stop it bro


https://twitter.com/WillisMcGahee/status/241689181976420354

broncosteven
08-31-2012, 06:12 PM
...
TE Julius Thomas "is finally getting healthy," Elway said. "We think now that he's physically healthy, he'll continue to get better."

I am surprised that Thomas made the team. I can't remember him actually catching a ball, he would be a good fit for KFC.

Bacchus
08-31-2012, 06:12 PM
Backup QBs cut so far today: J.McCown (CHI), S.Wallace (CLE), A.Weber (DEN), C.Keenum (HOU), J.Palmer (JAX), B.Hoyer (NE) M.Simms (NYJ), M.Kafka (PHI), Jerrod Johnson (PIT), J.Crompton (WAS).



Yikes!

None of them are as good as Garrard

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:13 PM
Lindsay Jones‏@PostBroncos

My takeaway from Elway's presser: This 53 isn't set. They will put in waiver claims, look at the new FAs.


https://twitter.com/PostBroncos/status/241689657312698368



Josina AndersonVerified‏@JosinaAnderson

No surprise with RB Knowshon Moreno making the team. Primarily from a depth standpoint, but he also showed enough stability on that ACL.


https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/241689515461341184




have No. 25 priority (out of 32 teams) in the waiver order, by the way.

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 06:20 PM
None of them are as good as Garrard


Jason La CanforaVerified‏@JasonLaCanfora

Full report on Dolphins QB situation upcoming on @CBSSports.com. Garrard by the way was impressive in his first workouts back from scope



https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/241691644016078848

errand
08-31-2012, 07:03 PM
Well, we are talking about cuts, when you talk about cuts it is udsually dealing with the backups.

yeah, but then some clown starts touting Seneca Wallace...like he's any better...hell, he couldn't beat out Colt McCoy

theAPAOps5
08-31-2012, 07:05 PM
wow...guess so. HATE seeing JJ go....should have been Ball!

You don't really think Orlando Franklin got cut, do you?

Natedog24
08-31-2012, 07:27 PM
Boo!

broncosteven
08-31-2012, 08:44 PM
RB Knowshon Moreno "had a great camp," Elway said. Jeremiah Johnson "played well too," but #Broncos were "excited" about Moreno.


Knowshon Moreno "probably makes us a better football team," Elway said.

Maybe if the Broncos ever get on Dancing with the Stars (or in KMs case Dancing with the 1st round busts)

BTW love the use of the word Probably in the above

Bacchus
08-31-2012, 08:47 PM
yeah, but then some clown starts touting Seneca Wallace...like he's any better...hell, he couldn't beat out Colt McCoy

and all three of them are better than Hanie who is still the 2nd string QB for the Broncos.

scorpio
08-31-2012, 09:16 PM
SMELLWAY IS TEARING THIS TEAM APART

Bronco Rob
08-31-2012, 10:18 PM
yeah, but then some clown starts touting Seneca Wallace...like he's any better...hell, he couldn't beat out Colt McCoy


Anyone is better than Haine.

That One Guy
08-31-2012, 10:47 PM
Elway: "Everything is fluid. The only guy that's set is 18. ... If we have chance to get better on waiver wire, we will."

I hate that statement. I don't like the type of message it sends.

Even that said, Miller should be more firmly seated than Manning.

Agamemnon
08-31-2012, 10:52 PM
Sucks that Ryan Harris couldn't make it. Also how the hell does Tony Carter make it over Squid. Siliga surprises me. Hopefully Robinson makes it to the practice squad.

Moreno and Ayers stick around another year.

Did you not watch the preseason?

Mogulseeker
08-31-2012, 11:11 PM
Why bring in Seneca Wallace?

I'd take Wallace. I see no need for Hanie on the team, but I understand it given the inexperience of Brock and Weber.

Bacchus
08-31-2012, 11:25 PM
I hate that statement. I don't like the type of message it sends.

Even that said, Miller should be more firmly seated than Manning.

realax, a reporter asked him a question and I'm sure Elway did not want to sit there and name all the players that were safe.

Lestat
08-31-2012, 11:33 PM
I am surprised that Thomas made the team. I can't remember him actually catching a ball, he would be a good fit for KFC.

they traded up to get him and selected him in the 4th round. he just hasn't been healthy but he wasn't in real danger of getting cut because you can stick Green on suspended list and allow Thomas to get healthier and then see what he's got.

BroncoBeavis
08-31-2012, 11:44 PM
I hate that statement. I don't like the type of message it sends.

Even that said, Miller should be more firmly seated than Manning.

Yeah no kidding.

"Thanks John. 'Preciate that" - Champ Bailey

extralife
09-01-2012, 02:18 AM
Did you not watch the preseason?

yeah, I watched Tony Carter blow repeatedly. Squid got beat hard against Arizona but he's shown stuff. what has Tony Carter shown?

Dedhed
09-01-2012, 08:48 AM
I hate that statement. I don't like the type of message it sends.

Even that said, Miller should be more firmly seated than Manning.

I agree. I don't like placing Manning on a pedestal all by himself. A better quote would have been to say "The final roster isn't necessarily set. We'll keep evaluating, and if we think there is a guy that upgrades the team we may make more moves."

The quote as it is serves Elway's ego more than any other purpose ("Hey everyone, look at me, I landed Manning"); not a fan.

Bronco Rob
09-01-2012, 12:25 PM
The Denver Broncos have announced seven members of their practice squad. They have one more move to make.

The list is highlighted by defensive tackle Ben Garland. The Air Force product is a team favorite and he has a chance to develop. Also on the Denver practice squad are safety Duke Ihenacho, tight end Cornelius Ingram, running back Jeremiah Johnson, receiver Greg Orton, nose tackle Sealver Siliga and guard Wayne Tribue.



http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/47719/broncos-announce-practice-squad

Broncobiv
09-01-2012, 12:32 PM
Oh joy...another Bronco Rob thread where he edits both the title and original post and makes it impossible follow all of the replies (because nobody knows what the first post was). Thanks for confusing the **** out of everyone yet again!

:thumbs:

Agamemnon
09-01-2012, 12:57 PM
Greg Orton over Gerell Robinson? That makes no sense...

Agamemnon
09-01-2012, 12:58 PM
yeah, I watched Tony Carter blow repeatedly. Squid got beat hard against Arizona but he's shown stuff. what has Tony Carter shown?

So you didn't watch the preseason...

Lestat
09-01-2012, 01:03 PM
Greg Orton over Gerell Robinson? That makes no sense...

i'm still shaking my head at this. Robinson looked pretty good and he's got nice potential. Orton has just been meh to me.

swaiy
09-01-2012, 01:04 PM
Squid doesn't even look to have the speed of a corner anymore after coming back from his injury

CHANGSTER
09-01-2012, 01:19 PM
Oh joy...another Bronco Rob thread where he edits both the title and original post and makes it impossible follow all of the replies (because nobody knows what the first post was). Thanks for confusing the **** out of everyone yet again!

:thumbs:

Right? Wasted 5 minutes figuring out what the hell I was reading.

jsco70
09-01-2012, 01:26 PM
Greg Orton over Gerell Robinson? That makes no sense...

Agree 100%.

broncocalijohn
09-01-2012, 01:53 PM
Oh joy...another Bronco Rob thread where he edits both the title and original post and makes it impossible follow all of the replies (because nobody knows what the first post was). Thanks for confusing the **** out of everyone yet again!

:thumbs:

Par for the course. Maybe he realizes he is making too many threads of cut n paste and wanted to not look like a yap. THis is the example of that yap! Come on Rob!

But, back to topic, I was hoping for #77 to get signed to the practice squad but I guess Broncos are happy with our depth at DL.

theAPAOps5
09-01-2012, 02:01 PM
Oh joy...another Bronco Rob thread where he edits both the title and original post and makes it impossible follow all of the replies (because nobody knows what the first post was). Thanks for confusing the **** out of everyone yet again!

:thumbs:

Thank you for posting this. Couldn't figure out how I posted in this to have it added to my subscribed threads.

broncolife
09-01-2012, 02:15 PM
Greg Orton over Gerell Robinson? That makes no sense...

Ditto, especially any name with Orton makes me want to vomit.

Smilin Assassin
09-01-2012, 02:20 PM
Bronco Rob.....in all seriousness, could you stop doing that? (changing first post/name of thread).

Just make a new thread, or maybe edit title with the word "Update".

This gets very confusing.

broncocalijohn
09-01-2012, 02:39 PM
Bronco Rob.....in all seriousness, could you stop doing that? (changing first post/name of thread).

Just make a new thread, or maybe edit title with the word "Update".

This gets very confusing.

Has he ever heard a word of criticism and changed? Maybe him not bumping his old and worn out threads with a "thumbs up" isnt happening as much but when you make so many threads, how can he keep up or not worry about bumping his threads when he has already more than enough on the front page?

lonestar
09-01-2012, 03:19 PM
While I was confused a bit.

IMO most of you would b itch if you were beat with a gold rope.

Someone complains he makes to many threads then someone else b itches he did not start another one.

Please make up your minds. Or are you pissed he beat y'all to it.

extralife
09-01-2012, 03:23 PM
Someone complains he makes to many threads then someone else b itches he did not start another one.

Please make up your minds. Or are you pissed he beat y'all to it.

Here's a thought: just make a post within the ****ing thread with the PS players. Hard, I know.

DenverBrit
09-01-2012, 03:27 PM
No waiver claims by Broncos.

The Broncos did not put in a waiver claim on any of the players cut from other teams during the past 24 hours, which means they decided to stick with the 53-man roster they assembled Friday. At least for now. The Broncos can continue to tinker with their 53-man roster up until the hours prior to their season opener Sept. 9 against Pittsburgh.

Couple of waived/released players sign elsewhere......

Rafael Bush claimed by Saints; Ryan Harris signs with Texans

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2012/09/01/rafael-bush-claimed-saints-ryan-harris-signs-texans/15319/

lonestar
09-01-2012, 03:32 PM
No waiver claims by Broncos.



Couple of waived/released players sign elsewhere......

Rafael Bush claimed by Saints; Ryan Harris signs with Texans

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2012/09/01/rafael-bush-claimed-saints-ryan-harris-signs-texans/15319/
Beat me to it.


S Rafael Bush was claimed by New Orleans, while QB Adam Weber was signed to Tampa Bay's practice squad; T Ryan Harris, who was released yesterday, has signed with the Texans.



Sure glad no more Harris. Will not have to hear more Harris to ORT Franklin to OG crap.

extralife
09-01-2012, 03:37 PM
Harris to Houston is like confirmation that we ****ed that one up.

Smilin Assassin
09-01-2012, 03:38 PM
While I was confused a bit.

IMO most of you would b itch if you were beat with a gold rope.

Someone complains he makes to many threads then someone else b itches he did not start another one.

Please make up your minds. Or are you pissed he beat y'all to it.


I think your last three posts have been you b*tchin about other people b*tchin.

People who live in glass houses.....



.....should take anger management classes.

Hulamau
09-01-2012, 03:43 PM
We could be looking for a decent PS eligible corner for the 8th PS slot.

We are a bit thin at corner now with only 5 on the whole squad and that is an injury prone position. We can manage with only one guy down at any one time now as it stands with 5 guys.

WHen teams try to spread us out this year we may need 4 corners in those games. I guess Mike Adams (who has played corner) and even Moore could fill in at nickle or dime in a pinch?

lonestar
09-01-2012, 03:53 PM
Harris to Houston is like confirmation that we ****ed that one up.

Just confirms they are hard up for a ol guy. Nothing more. I suspect he will never see the field. And if he does it will be in a ZBS system power blocking is not his forte.

lonestar
09-01-2012, 03:57 PM
I think your last three posts have been you b*tchin about other people b*tchin.

People who live in glass houses.....



.....should take anger management classes.

I used to teach them. Thanks for noticing. Ahaahahahahaha

R8R H8R
09-01-2012, 04:20 PM
Adam Weber is signing on the Bucs PS. Good for him, he may get more of a legitimate chance with them then with us.

Hamrob
09-01-2012, 04:34 PM
I wonder if someone picked up Robinson?

The kid is 6'4" 223lbs with nice hands, that makes plays. I can't believe we kept Orton over him...unless, Robinson signed elsewhere.

Hamrob
09-01-2012, 04:35 PM
Good for Weber! I wish him well...I think he's a pretty good QB in the making.

Hamrob
09-01-2012, 04:37 PM
I can't believe Carter made the team. Here's what I saw from him in the preseason:

1. Was toasted deep repeatedly
2. Was called for interferece repeatedly
3. Was out positioned and out jumped by larger receivers on several occassions
4. He's fast and plays tight...but, that's the best I can say about him

That Carter is our #4 says alot about our depth....simply not very deep at all!

I would take that Detroit castoff (Alfonzo) before I would keep Carter.

orange skier
09-01-2012, 05:15 PM
I wonder if someone picked up Robinson?

The kid is 6'4" 223lbs with nice hands, that makes plays. I can't believe we kept Orton over him...unless, Robinson signed elsewhere.



Actually.....I liked them both...........alot......Agree Robinson has a career ahead of him. Orton was with us last year. Robinson will be back. I would have cut glass hands Caldwell before either of these two

go_broncos
09-01-2012, 05:23 PM
Webber is better QB than Hanie.
Bad decision..

One thing is.Elway is doing much better Job than Mcd..
I guess..we can leave it as no one is perfect

theAPAOps5
09-01-2012, 08:16 PM
I can't believe Carter made the team. Here's what I saw from him in the preseason:

1. Was toasted deep repeatedly
2. Was called for interferece repeatedly
3. Was out positioned and out jumped by larger receivers on several occassions
4. He's fast and plays tight...but, that's the best I can say about him

That Carter is our #4 says alot about our depth....simply not very deep at all!

I would take that Detroit castoff (Alfonzo) before I would keep Carter.

Not making excuses because I agree with almost your entire thought process but I think a few of those PI were horrible replacement ref **** up calls. One in particular was the bears game where he had tight textbook coverage and the wide receiver slipped. The threw the flag and it was clear he messed up.

Again, I agree with you but maybe his tight coverage was getting him some ghost calls.

Smilin Assassin
09-01-2012, 08:30 PM
Good for Weber! I wish him well...I think he's a pretty good QB in the making.

Robinson tweeted to a friend he was headed to cardinals.

Mogulseeker
09-01-2012, 08:46 PM
Who was the wideout from AZ State?

I was hoping he would make the team.

jonny1
09-01-2012, 09:06 PM
Cracks me up that someone sees a player play for about 20 minutes total time (maybe) on TV and they KNOW that they know better than the professional coaches and staff that have been watching and evaluating these players night and day for 6 weeks.

bronco militia
09-01-2012, 09:29 PM
Adam Weber is no longer a Bronco.

The second year quarterback has decided to sign on to the practice squad in Tampa Bay, according to a league source.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2012/09/01/adam-weber-join-tampa-bay-practice-squad/15316/

Bacchus
09-01-2012, 09:33 PM
Well, I am happy for Weber, and Harris going to the Texans will be a good spot for him.

That One Guy
09-01-2012, 10:21 PM
Webber is better QB than Hanie.
Bad decision..

One thing is.Elway is doing much better Job than Mcd..
I guess..we can leave it as no one is perfect

If not for some fluke plays last year, we'd all be reminiscing for McD or Shanny.

Hopefully things continue to improve but last year did not instill an ounce of confidence in me about this team. I'll remember last year for the things like Marion Barber losing the same game 2 or 3 times rather than a few fluke victories and a win over Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

Agamemnon
09-01-2012, 10:24 PM
I can't believe Carter made the team. Here's what I saw from him in the preseason:

1. Was toasted deep repeatedly
2. Was called for interferece repeatedly
3. Was out positioned and out jumped by larger receivers on several occassions
4. He's fast and plays tight...but, that's the best I can say about him

That Carter is our #4 says alot about our depth....simply not very deep at all!

I would take that Detroit castoff (Alfonzo) before I would keep Carter.

It amuses me that you don't get how important #4 on your list is...

R8R H8R
09-01-2012, 10:36 PM
Anyone heard who the 8th guy is yet? I am thinking that maybe they are looking for a cut rookie QB to replace Weber, but who knows?

errand
09-01-2012, 10:41 PM
Cracks me up that someone sees a player play for about 20 minutes total time (maybe) on TV and they KNOW that they know better than the professional coaches and staff that have been watching and evaluating these players night and day for 6 weeks.


Not to mention several open letters to Del Rio, Fox, Elway, McCoy, and Bowlen....this place is crawling with geniuses and position gurus...

And yet amazingly not one clown on this site has posted a thread saying they've been hired by any NFL team, let alone the Broncos

Lestat
09-01-2012, 11:06 PM
Cracks me up that someone sees a player play for about 20 minutes total time (maybe) on TV and they KNOW that they know better than the professional coaches and staff that have been watching and evaluating these players night and day for 6 weeks.

well the "Kyle Orton gives us the best change to win" thing didn't help ROFL!

getting back on topic though. rumblings around the web have Robinson going to the Cards PS. that kinda sucks.

Kaylore
09-02-2012, 12:31 AM
Adam Weber is no longer a Bronco.

The second year quarterback has decided to sign on to the practice squad in Tampa Bay, according to a league source.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2012/09/01/adam-weber-join-tampa-bay-practice-squad/15316/

Can you blame him? The FO has Manning and Osweiller for the future. He's got no shot here.

BowlenBall
09-02-2012, 12:39 AM
Can you blame him? The FO has Manning and Osweiller for the future. He's got no shot here.

He doesn't have a shot in Tampa Bay either behind Josh Freeman -- I imagine that being cut even after he clearly outplayed Hanie also had something to do with it. His going to Tampa Bay might have been a big FU to the Denver front office for trying to stash him on the PS when he had earned a roster spot.

Shame -- Weber seemed to be well-liked by the rest of the team, and played fairly well the last two preseasons.

go_broncos
09-02-2012, 12:47 AM
wish webber is a friend of jack elway.

broncswin
09-02-2012, 12:59 AM
good for weber....blah...blah...blah...the guy will never see starting status in the NFL...who gives a shiat....good luck Weber...dont care

KipCorrington25
09-02-2012, 01:47 AM
Weber best case scenario is a third string guy, sick of hearing about how awesome he is.

ozomulsion
09-02-2012, 02:37 AM
Weber best case scenario is a third string guy, sick of hearing about how awesome he is.

No way dude! He's on Tampa's practice squad now. He could easily be taking Josh Freemen's starting gig by next season ;)

lonestar
09-02-2012, 06:17 AM
Cracks me up that someone sees a player play for about 20 minutes total time (maybe) on TV and they KNOW that they know better than the professional coaches and staff that have been watching and evaluating these players night and day for 6 weeks.

An amazing concept is it not.

:thumbs:

lonestar
09-02-2012, 06:23 AM
If not for some fluke plays last year, we'd all be reminiscing for McD or Sha
nny.

Hopefully things continue to improve but last year did not instill an ounce of confidence in me about this team. I'll remember last year for the things like Marion Barber losing the same game 2 or 3 times rather than a few fluke victories and a win over Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

Bite your tongue. Never in this lifetime should anyone want Tanahan back as the guy in charge.

Were you not tired of medoctrity for tha last decade, winning regular season games and then getting our asses kicked in the playoffs.

Maybe as our next OC. But no more responsibility than that.

Should not even Be in the war room lest he jinx a pick.

lonestar
09-02-2012, 06:26 AM
Anyone heard who the 8th guy is yet? I am thinking that maybe they are looking for a cut rookie QB to replace Weber, but who knows?

Why would we pick up a rookie QB weal ready have one. And if they got cut most likely they could not contribute to this team.

Just curious who would you cut to add this 4th qb to the squad.

Dos Rios
09-02-2012, 06:52 AM
Anyone heard who the 8th guy is yet? I am thinking that maybe they are looking for a cut rookie QB to replace Weber, but who knows?

I think they need one more offensive lineman so they can have 5 on the second string for practice.

Hamrob
09-02-2012, 08:41 AM
It amuses me that you don't get how important #4 on your list is...I guess I'm not quick enough to keep up with you. #4 is great...if you don't have a whole lot of #1 & #2 mixed in!

Hamrob
09-02-2012, 08:44 AM
Cracks me up that someone sees a player play for about 20 minutes total time (maybe) on TV and they KNOW that they know better than the professional coaches and staff that have been watching and evaluating these players night and day for 6 weeks.Really?

So, just because the coaches like Orton, and Ball we're supposed to agree with them?

Please. You crack me up!Hilarious!

Hamrob
09-02-2012, 08:47 AM
Not to mention several open letters to Del Rio, Fox, Elway, McCoy, and Bowlen....this place is crawling with geniuses and position gurus...

And yet amazingly not one clown on this site has posted a thread saying they've been hired by any NFL team, let alone the BroncosSo, you tell me:

When you have a team that is thin in the depth department, and 4 of the guys you cut are scooped up by other teams...did you keep the right guys?


Weber
Harris
Bush
Robinson

uplink
09-02-2012, 09:20 AM
So, you tell me:

When you have a team that is thin in the depth department, and 4 of the guys you cut are scooped up by other teams...did you keep the right guys?


Weber
Harris
Bush
Robinson


I think it all has to do with who helps the team right now, not later on down the line.

*Hannie is more experienced than Weber if Manning is out for a few games. If that happens it will be Fox ball again and they need a vet game manager.

*Harris is still not 100% back from injury most likely. He may be the best long term solution, but not right now.

*Orton has been with the team longer than Robinson. If a WR goes down he would be a better short term solution. Robinson has more long term upside IMO.

*Went with Bruton over Bush for special teams play.

*I also think thats why Carter the CB made it, limited upside but he is functional if not good and can return punts.

R8R H8R
09-02-2012, 01:21 PM
Why would we pick up a rookie QB weal ready have one. And if they got cut most likely they could not contribute to this team.

Just curious who would you cut to add this 4th qb to the squad.

You don't have to cut anyone to add an 8th player to a 8 man PS. See how that works?

As far as my comment about adding a 4th QB to the team via the PS, it was purely speculation because of how long they are taking to add this 8th guy. It wasn't a wish or hope or anything, just speculation. Got it?

R8R H8R
09-02-2012, 01:28 PM
Weber best case scenario is a third string guy, sick of hearing about how awesome he is.

That is exactly why his agent wisely suggested to him to sign on the Bucs PS. My understanding is that the Bucs are only carrying 2 QB's on thier roster right now. We all know **** happens in the NFL, so his chances of getting promoted to the 53 man roster is much greater w/ the Bucs than the Broncos.

It has nothing to do on how awesome - or not - he is, it is strictly business; and we all know the pay is much better on the roster than the PS.

Bronco Rob
09-02-2012, 06:45 PM
Broncos plan to add rookie C Quintin Saulsberry to practice squad http://t.co/Feceaksr #broncos -- Lindsay Jones (@PostBroncos)





:sunshine:

Bacchus
09-02-2012, 07:02 PM
Broncos plan to add rookie C Quintin Saulsberry to practice squad http://t.co/Feceaksr #broncos -- Lindsay Jones (@PostBroncos)





:sunshine:

Might be a warning shot to their under performing 3rd round pick

Bronco Rob
09-02-2012, 09:06 PM
Might be a warning shot to their under performing 3rd round pick


I had high hopes for Blake.

fdf
09-02-2012, 10:01 PM
He doesn't have a shot in Tampa Bay either behind Josh Freeman -- I imagine that being cut even after he clearly outplayed Hanie also had something to do with it. His going to Tampa Bay might have been a big FU to the Denver front office for trying to stash him on the PS when he had earned a roster spot.

Shame -- Weber seemed to be well-liked by the rest of the team, and played fairly well the last two preseasons.

Front office can always sign him to the team off the TB practice squad if someone goes down.

BowlenBall
09-02-2012, 10:07 PM
Front office can always sign him to the team off the TB practice squad if someone goes down.

Knock on wood, Peyton Manning plays every possible snap this season and it doesn't come to that....

I liked Saulsberry quite a bit in this year's OM Mock draft, by the way. A 4-year every game starter for an SEC team = good chance of sticking in the NFL for a few years.

From CBS Sports: (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632352/quentin-saulsberry)

Quentin Saulsberry, OL, Mississippi State, 6-2, 300, Sr., has been selected All-SEC Conference Honorable Mention for the 2011 college football season as voted on by The Associated Press. Saulsberry earned the honorable mention nod after starting all 12 games, including eight starts at right guard and four starts at center. The Coldwater, Miss., native became the only player in Mississippi State history to play and start in every one of his games as a Bulldog (49). Saulsberry graded out a champion in five games, including games against current No. 1 LSU and No. 2 Alabama. The senior also recorded 37 takedowns. - Mississippi State football

Bronco Rob
09-02-2012, 10:50 PM
Knock on wood, Peyton Manning plays every possible snap this season and it doesn't come to that....

I liked Saulsberry quite a bit in this year's OM Mock draft, by the way. A 4-year every game starter for an SEC team = good chance of sticking in the NFL for a few years.

From CBS Sports: (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1632352/quentin-saulsberry)

Quentin Saulsberry, OL, Mississippi State, 6-2, 300, Sr., has been selected All-SEC Conference Honorable Mention for the 2011 college football season as voted on by The Associated Press. Saulsberry earned the honorable mention nod after starting all 12 games, including eight starts at right guard and four starts at center. The Coldwater, Miss., native became the only player in Mississippi State history to play and start in every one of his games as a Bulldog (49). Saulsberry graded out a champion in five games, including games against current No. 1 LSU and No. 2 Alabama. The senior also recorded 37 takedowns. - Mississippi State football



As long as someone pushes Beadles bailey.

Mogulseeker
09-02-2012, 11:21 PM
good for weber....blah...blah...blah...the guy will never see starting status in the NFL...who gives a shiat....good luck Weber...dont care

This.

SoCalBronco
09-02-2012, 11:42 PM
I had high hopes for Blake.

Proposed new rule: No more centers from Baylor. :)

BowlenBall
09-02-2012, 11:53 PM
Proposed new rule: No more centers from Baylor. :)

It's an esoteric rule, but possibly a good one. :~ohyah!:

In all seriousness, though... I'm still holding out hope that JD Walton's style meshes with our new-look offense. Lots of people are down on him on this board, but I think he could surprise (especially if he doesn't have to hold his blocks for 10 seconds on every play like last year).

Blake, on the other hand -- I focused on him (as much as possible) during the preseason games, and didn't like what I see. He seems hopelessly confused by the pro game.

cutthemdown
09-03-2012, 01:43 AM
At this point you want the bkup to have some game experience and Hanie fits the bill more then Weber. Seriously though worrying about Weber being gone is silly. He will probably sit out there unsigned if you want him back.

Trying to bring in someone that could be a slightly better player won't work well because they won't know the system.

Also only neurotic Bronco fans could worry about bkup qb after all the team did to land Manning.

Hey look fans we got Manning. Peyton Friggin Manning. YA!!!!!!!! BUT THE BKUP NOT GOOD ENOUGH ELWAY, WHAT ARE YOU AN IDIOT.

lonestar
09-03-2012, 02:04 AM
You don't have to cut anyone to add an 8th player to a 8 man PS. See how that works?

As far as my comment about adding a 4th QB to the team via the PS, it was purely speculation because of how long they are taking to add this 8th guy. It wasn't a wish or hope or anything, just speculation. Got it?

You said nothing about adding the QB to the PS but to the team.

And again why add a rookie that another team found lacking, when we already have a promising rookie project.

The other rookie would not see playing time before BO would unless he was injured.

Your post made zero sense regardless of trying to add a QB
When they clearly have other positions of need.

Bacchus
09-03-2012, 02:13 AM
Proposed new rule: No more centers from Baylor. :)

What round was JD Walton drafted in? I think he has done very well. He has problems but he'll get better and have a good career.

lonestar
09-03-2012, 02:15 AM
It's an esoteric rule, but possibly a good one. :~ohyah!:

In all seriousness, though... I'm still holding out hope that JD Walton's style meshes with our new-look offense. Lots of people are down on him on this board, but I think he could surprise (especially if he doesn't have to hold his blocks for 10 seconds on every play like last year).

Blake, on the other hand -- I focused on him (as much as possible) during the preseason games, and didn't like what I see. He seems hopelessly confused by the pro game.

Had Walton been picked by anyone besides Josh then there would be little if ANYONE pissing and moaning about his performance.

No he is not Pouncy abut then no one is..

Had Tanahan not drained the team of talent his last decade then perhaps we could have had the luxury of spending a number one on pouncy.

But other priorities stood in the way from doing so..

Now that we seem to have restocked most of the starter players we can now start investing on players for the OL or more importantly the DL, LB and maybe a second round safety in the up coming drafts.

Hopefully then be able to spend a 1st on eith OL or DL the next few drafts. And get some better talent across the board. And if mr. Hold (clady) decides he wants bigger money than we want to give him we maybe be forced to spend a top pick for OLT.

Build the OL and DL and those players behind them are just more efficient.

Bacchus
09-03-2012, 02:15 AM
It's an esoteric rule, but possibly a good one. :~ohyah!:

In all seriousness, though... I'm still holding out hope that JD Walton's style meshes with our new-look offense. Lots of people are down on him on this board, but I think he could surprise (especially if he doesn't have to hold his blocks for 10 seconds on every play like last year).

Blake, on the other hand -- I focused on him (as much as possible) during the preseason games, and didn't like what I see. He seems hopelessly confused by the pro game.

I agree on both counts. Walton will be fine and if Blake would have been drafted in 5th or later i think he'd been cut. Maybe he was just shell shocked by the athletes he wa playing against but he did not look good.

lonestar
09-03-2012, 02:29 AM
What round was JD Walton drafted in? I think he has done very well. He has problems but he'll get better and have a good career.

But but but he is not pouncy.( no one is) That is part of the issue and the other part he was drafted by the super villain Josh.

Considering the coaching he received the first two years and the lack of OTAs last year with another new scheme coming, I think he will grow into a very good OC. considering the slugs we had there for a few years at 285 pounds had they stayed would be pushed back into the back field also..

As I have said had any one but Josh drafted either Beadles or JD and few if any comments would be made about them..

lonestar
09-03-2012, 02:34 AM
I agree on both counts. Walton will be fine and if Blake would have been drafted in 5th or later i think he'd been cut. Maybe he was just shell shocked by the athletes he wa playing against but he did not look good.

The combination of Baylor and the confernce they play in and having RG3 behind him probably graded out better than he should have.

Whereas Walton was drafted not only for his skill level but also his intelligence as were most of Joshes guys, not so sure of how quick Blake fairs there.

Let's see how he does this coming year, before the masses start shouting for his head.

dsmoot
09-03-2012, 03:31 AM
Really?

So, just because the coaches like Orton, and Ball we're supposed to agree with them?

Please. You crack me up!Hilarious!

It's not that we have to agree. What cracks me up are the people who don't see these players for weeks in practice, in game situations, in player meetings and who have not been gainfully employed at this level and speak with such certainty about their own opinions. When some move is made that I don't agree with, I sometimes have to standback and say to myself "I just may not understand what the coaches are seeing".

On the surface, Iiked what I saw better in Weber than Hanie, but what do I really know.

Drek
09-03-2012, 05:24 AM
It's not that we have to agree. What cracks me up are the people who don't see these players for weeks in practice, in game situations, in player meetings and who have not been gainfully employed at this level and speak with such certainty about their own opinions. When some move is made that I don't agree with, I sometimes have to standback and say to myself "I just may not understand what the coaches are seeing".

On the surface, Iiked what I saw better in Weber than Hanie, but what do I really know.

Are front offices never wrong? Or are they wrong damn near as often as they're right?

People act like these guys are untouchable geniuses. John Madden once said that if it wasn't for the NFL all these guys would be teaching PE at a high school. Think about that before you defer to them without reservation.

lonestar
09-03-2012, 05:41 AM
Are front offices never wrong? Or are they wrong damn near as often as they're right?

People act like these guys are untouchable geniuses. John Madden once said that if it wasn't for the NFL all these guys would be teaching PE at a high school. Think about that before you defer to them without reservation.

Yet you ail to see that the FO has been going this successfully for decades combined.

Not like a few years ago when Josh was given control with little or no expertise to guide him.

Fox has been in football for ever. Elway about the same length of Tim but in a different capacity. Great balance.

Not even talking about the position coaches. You maybe talking a hundred combined years of football.

Now really who has a better feel if someone is going to make a difference
Someone that sees hundreds of hours of film the arm chair GM/HC/QB does not get to see or allowing them to do the job that so far has/seems to be a pretty good one.

But it sound to me that you do not like The Johns or JDR. Which is it.

Btw thousands of fans ARM chair HC/GMs missed on players like Brady, TD and Rod Smith to name a few it took Professionals to make them work.

I had zero confidence in Tanahans personnel decisions. Most did not like Joshes.

I for one like what Elway has done so far. Willing to allow him to expand on it.

BowlenBall
09-03-2012, 06:32 AM
Are front offices never wrong? Or are they wrong damn near as often as they're right?

People act like these guys are untouchable geniuses. John Madden once said that if it wasn't for the NFL all these guys would be teaching PE at a high school. Think about that before you defer to them without reservation.

Exactly -- go watch "Moneyball" if you want an idea of how wrong pro sports coaches and front offices can be sometimes.

Or better yet, look at the Denver draft in 2009.

BowlenBall
09-03-2012, 06:34 AM
Yet you ail to see that the FO has been going this successfully for decades combined.

Not like a few years ago when Josh was given control with little or no expertise to guide him.

Fox has been in football for ever. Elway about the same length of Tim but in a different capacity. Great balance.

Not even talking about the position coaches. You maybe talking a hundred combined years of football.

Now really who has a better feel if someone is going to make a difference
Someone that sees hundreds of hours of film the arm chair GM/HC/QB does not get to see or allowing them to do the job that so far has/seems to be a pretty good one.

But it sound to me that you do not like The Johns or JDR. Which is it.

Btw thousands of fans ARM chair HC/GMs missed on players like Brady, TD and Rod Smith to name a few it took Professionals to make them work.

I had zero confidence in Tanahans personnel decisions. Most did not like Joshes.

I for one like what Elway has done so far. Willing to allow him to expand on it.

Agree with you on the last point -- but please allow others of us to disagree with the front office at times. Doesn't make us bad fans, just means that we're critical thinkers. (and that is a good thing)

Dos Rios
09-03-2012, 06:40 AM
Proposed new rule: No more centers from Baylor. :)

I think that's actually an amendment to the existing rule of "No more centers from Minnesota."

broncocalijohn
09-03-2012, 09:14 AM
BTW,
Drek is a excuseologist for the McDaniels regime.

DBroncos4life
09-03-2012, 09:42 AM
BTW,
Drek is a excuseologist for the McDaniels regime.

This^

Lestat
09-03-2012, 11:38 AM
sounds like a good signing and we did need another OL for the PS. expected it to be a OT though.

Bacchus
09-03-2012, 11:40 AM
BTW,
Drek is a excuseologist for the McDaniels regime.

Wow, that's like being a Hitler apologist. Yes, I did just compare McD to Hitler. Deal with it.:kiss:

R8R H8R
09-03-2012, 11:43 AM
You said nothing about adding the QB to the PS but to the team.

I thought this quote in a thread about the Broncos PS would be self explanatory: "Anyone heard who the 8th guy is yet?"
But apparently it needs to be explained to some people. Sorry, my mistake.



And again why add a rookie that another team found lacking, when we already have a promising rookie project.

The other rookie would not see playing time before BO would unless he was injured.

Your post made zero sense regardless of trying to add a QB
When they clearly have other positions of need.

Never mind, it was just a question on who was the 8th guy on the PS. That's all; nothing more than that. How you can read so much into it is beyond me.

Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore as we now have the answer.

Lestat
09-03-2012, 11:51 AM
Wow, that's like being a Hitler apologist. Yes, I did just compare McD to Hitler. Deal with it.:kiss:

you're not exactly wrong in the comparison...

broncocalijohn
09-03-2012, 11:56 AM
Wow, that's like being a Hitler apologist. Yes, I did just compare McD to Hitler. Deal with it.:kiss:

I am just proud of myself that I came up with the phrase/word "excuseologist". It should be used more often. MacGruder would have been perfect for the terminalogy. So glad he is bothering the Jets' fans now.

Drek
09-03-2012, 02:09 PM
BTW,
Drek is a excuseologist for the McDaniels regime.

Not reaching for a pitch fork and keeping perspective doesn't make one an "excuseologist". I'm an optimist by nature and look for the logic in all things. McDaniels front office moves by and large had rational sentiment. He just wasn't a very good coach or manager of people. I'm not going to act like the guy was Hitler when we're fielding four starters from the first five picks of his second draft class, and the one pick from that group that isn't starting for us this year won us a playoff game last year for the first time since '05.

The same goes for Elway and Fox. I'm not reaching for a pitch fork with them either. This is the most promising Broncos season we're about to start in a long time. But it isn't hard to see that Caleb Hanie is going to effectively steal money from this team in 2012, or that Lance Ball is not someone we should be happy to have on our 53 man roster. Everyone has blind spots and gaps in their game. If keeping Hanie and Ball on the 53 man roster are the worst moves this FO makes then we're damn lucky as fans to have them running the club we pull for, but it doesn't suddenly make keeping Hanie and Ball on the roster a good move.

The deification and whitewashing of those in authority is the primary failing of contemporary society if you ask me. People do it with historic political figures and it leads people to assume that a lot of the current status quo is acceptable when it's not, or that all the actions in the past were justified, when they were not. Questioning even those who clearly have the best of intentions is always necessary.

And FYI, you didn't need to make up a word there, since "apologist" fits the context you were shooting for just fine.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
09-03-2012, 02:18 PM
Not reaching for a pitch fork and keeping perspective doesn't make one an "excuseologist". I'm an optimist by nature and look for the logic in all things. McDaniels front office moves by and large had rational sentiment. He just wasn't a very good coach or manager of people. I'm not going to act like the guy was Hitler when we're fielding four starters from the first five picks of his second draft class, and the one pick from that group that isn't starting for us this year won us a playoff game last year for the first time since '05.

The same goes for Elway and Fox. I'm not reaching for a pitch fork with them either. This is the most promising Broncos season we're about to start in a long time. But it isn't hard to see that Caleb Hanie is going to effectively steal money from this team in 2012, or that Lance Ball is not someone we should be happy to have on our 53 man roster. Everyone has blind spots and gaps in their game. If keeping Hanie and Ball on the 53 man roster are the worst moves this FO makes then we're damn lucky as fans to have them running the club we pull for, but it doesn't suddenly make keeping Hanie and Ball on the roster a good move.

The deification and whitewashing of those in authority is the primary failing of contemporary society if you ask me. People do it with historic political figures and it leads people to assume that a lot of the current status quo is acceptable when it's not, or that all the actions in the past were justified, when they were not. Questioning even those who clearly have the best of intentions is always necessary.

And FYI, you didn't need to make up a word there, since "apologist" fits the context you were shooting for just fine.

DT isn't starting for us this year?

SoCalBronco
09-03-2012, 02:27 PM
BTW,
Drek is a excuseologist for the McDaniels regime.

Drek is a fabulous poster. It is true that he's a McD apologist and a Notre Dame fan, but no one is perfect.

Lestat
09-03-2012, 04:20 PM
Drek is a fabulous poster. It is true that he's a McD apologist and a Notre Dame fan, but no one is perfect.


they've hanged men for less egregious sins.

broncocalijohn
09-03-2012, 05:13 PM
You don't have to cut anyone to add an 8th player to a 8 man PS. See how that works?

As far as my comment about adding a 4th QB to the team via the PS, it was purely speculation because of how long they are taking to add this 8th guy. It wasn't a wish or hope or anything, just speculation. Got it?

I think you weren't thinking this through. While Weber didn't make the team, you really think he was that bad that the Broncos would cut Weber to go look for another QB to sit on the Taxi Squad?

broncocalijohn
09-03-2012, 05:21 PM
The same goes for Elway and Fox. I'm not reaching for a pitch fork with them either. This is the most promising Broncos season we're about to start in a long time. But it isn't hard to see that Caleb Hanie is going to effectively steal money from this team in 2012, or that Lance Ball is not someone we should be happy to have on our 53 man roster. Everyone has blind spots and gaps in their game. If keeping Hanie and Ball on the 53 man roster are the worst moves this FO makes then we're damn lucky as fans to have them running the club we pull for, but it doesn't suddenly make keeping Hanie and Ball on the roster a good move.

And FYI, you didn't need to make up a word there, since "apologist" fits the context you were shooting for just fine.

I am with you on the current FO and feel the same as you and many others on Hanie and also Ball except I am not as hard on Ball as some posters are here.

As for Apologist compared to excuseologist, not even close. My word sounds like you would defend your point to the end and be extreme about it. If the shoe fits with you and McDaniels, wear it.

SoCalBronco
09-03-2012, 05:30 PM
Actually, I don't like the term "apologist". From a definitional and academic standpoint, it is synonymous with defender, but to most people I think the phrase "apologist" would imply that there is something to apologize for.

That's why I don't like being called a Cutler apologist, because I don't think there is anything to apologize for. I prefer defender, its just a less confusing term.

barryr
09-03-2012, 05:35 PM
No team is perfect when it comes to play evaluations. The key of course is having more makes than misses in the draft, as well as free agency and trades, and not so much money tied up to players who don't perform as much as others.

R8R H8R
09-03-2012, 05:37 PM
I think you weren't thinking this through. While Weber didn't make the team, you really think he was that bad that the Broncos would cut Weber to go look for another QB to sit on the Taxi Squad?

No, I am sure they cut Weber with the intention of placing him on the PS, but Weber wisely found a better opportunity with the Bucs.

Thus, I thought that maybe they would want another QB to replace him on the PS, but obviously they went another direction with an OL, which is fine by me.

Bronco Rob
09-03-2012, 06:11 PM
Drek is a fabulous poster. It is true that he's a McD apologist and a Notre Dame fan, but no one is perfect.




Yikes!

Broncos_OTM
09-04-2012, 06:06 AM
Not reaching for a pitch fork and keeping perspective doesn't make one an "excuseologist". I'm an optimist by nature and look for the logic in all things. McDaniels front office moves by and large had rational sentiment. He just wasn't a very good coach or manager of people. I'm not going to act like the guy was Hitler when we're fielding four starters from the first five picks of his second draft class, and the one pick from that group that isn't starting for us this year won us a playoff game last year for the first time since '05.

The same goes for Elway and Fox. I'm not reaching for a pitch fork with them either. This is the most promising Broncos season we're about to start in a long time. But it isn't hard to see that Caleb Hanie is going to effectively steal money from this team in 2012, or that Lance Ball is not someone we should be happy to have on our 53 man roster. Everyone has blind spots and gaps in their game. If keeping Hanie and Ball on the 53 man roster are the worst moves this FO makes then we're damn lucky as fans to have them running the club we pull for, but it doesn't suddenly make keeping Hanie and Ball on the roster a good move.

The deification and whitewashing of those in authority is the primary failing of contemporary society if you ask me. People do it with historic political figures and it leads people to assume that a lot of the current status quo is acceptable when it's not, or that all the actions in the past were justified, when they were not. Questioning even those who clearly have the best of intentions is always necessary.

And FYI, you didn't need to make up a word there, since "apologist" fits the context you were shooting for just fine.
maybe he thought you were a Dr. in excuses :-)

good post, until this team wins the big one they should be questioned. keep a high standard.

when it comes to Haine, who could we have brought in that would've been a upgrade? we can always throw around names. however, did they want to come to denver? were they cost affective? Haine looked serviceable with the starters when he was able to play with the starters

ball is a very versatile player. he wears many hats. what you don't want from him is someone to carry the load. or even see much time playing in this offense. he won't wow you but he will get decent production while in. slow and steady wins the race. to be honest if magahee goes down I think there is a good chance well see hillman as the primary with guys filling in more then normal.

Requiem
09-04-2012, 09:49 AM
Proposed new rule: No more centers from Baylor. :)

Yep. As I said in the draft thread, I prayed that we wouldn't take Blake in the fourth round. . . but we did. What a disaster. He's like 32 already.