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Kaylore
08-31-2012, 12:22 AM
That dude better make the roster because he isn't clearing waivers.

4 tackles, two for loss, one sack, one pass defensed.

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R8R H8R
08-31-2012, 12:25 AM
That dude better make the roster because he isn't clearing waivers.

4 tackles, two for loss, one sack, one pass defensed.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m93safVgM41qk21ea.gif

He will, no worries on that from me. I wouldn't mind seeing the FO looking into seeing what they could get from trading Ayers, whether it be a late pick or maybe a vet LB for depth.

Bacchus
08-31-2012, 12:31 AM
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Agamemnon
08-31-2012, 12:33 AM
That dude better make the roster because he isn't clearing waivers.

4 tackles, two for loss, one sack, one pass defensed.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m93safVgM41qk21ea.gif

My jaw would drop to the floor in complete disbelief if they seriously tried to sneak the guy through waivers at this point. He'll make the roster.

Bronco Boy
08-31-2012, 12:34 AM
When was the last time a rookie draft pick of ours didn't make the team? Not baiting just curious.

Archer81
08-31-2012, 12:43 AM
When was the last time a rookie draft pick of ours didn't make the team? Not baiting just curious.

Maurice Clarett comes to mind.

Recently? Hmm...


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Jekyll15Hyde
08-31-2012, 12:50 AM
Khan, you hit one out of the park on this call from day 1 of training camp

Ziggy
08-31-2012, 12:51 AM
Malik Jackson had the team made before this game.

Bacchus
08-31-2012, 01:00 AM
I Posted this on 04/29/12

It seems to me Denver is much more concerned about rushing the passer than stopping the run. Wolfe is very much a pass rusher that will play DE on running downs and then move to DT on passing downs. I believe Denver's Malik Jackson who played a lot of DT in college, even though he weighs 285lbs will also be looked at DT on passing downs. So on passing downs Denver's starting DL will could look like this Ayers, Wolfe, Jackson, Dumerville. This strategy of moving DEs to DTs on passing downs is what the N.Y. Giants do and they have one of the best pass rushes in the NFL.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=105307&highlight=Jackson

BroncoMan4ever
08-31-2012, 01:08 AM
Trevathan also had a hell of a game. If there were doubts about him they have been erased

Agamemnon
08-31-2012, 01:11 AM
Trevathan also had a hell of a game. If there were doubts about him they have been erased

Indeed. He honestly looks like he could turn into a very good WLB in the NFL.

BowlenBall
08-31-2012, 01:16 AM
When was the last time a rookie draft pick of ours didn't make the team? Not baiting just curious.

Jeremy Beal last year, technically (although he was signed to the practice squad)

2010: Jammie Kerlew (7th round)
2009: Blake Schlueter (7th round)
2008: Carlton Powell (5th round)
2007: None
2006: Greg Eslinger (6th round)
2005: Maurice Clarett (3rd round)
2004: Jeremy LeSeuer (3rd round); Josh Sewell (6th round); Matt Mauck (7th round); Brandon Miree (7th round)

The all-time winner (or loser) was 1988 1st round DT Ted Gregory, who was cut in preseason of his rookie year. Ouch!

Ratboy
08-31-2012, 01:17 AM
Moreno.

I rather see Moreno and Johnson over Ball.

BroncoMan4ever
08-31-2012, 02:50 AM
Indeed. He honestly looks like he could turn into a very good WLB in the NFL.

His instincts are great. I just wonder if he could put on a few pounds and be an every down player for the team, instead of a fill-in type guy

ol#7
08-31-2012, 04:55 AM
Jeremy Beal last year, technically (although he was signed to the practice squad)

2010: Jammie Kerlew (7th round)
2009: Blake Schlueter (7th round)
2008: Carlton Powell (5th round)
2007: None
2006: Greg Eslinger (6th round)
2005: Maurice Clarett (3rd round)
2004: Jeremy LeSeuer (3rd round); Josh Sewell (6th round); Matt Mauck (7th round); Brandon Miree (7th round)

The all-time winner (or loser) was 1988 1st round DT Ted Gregory, who was cut in preseason of his rookie year. Ouch!

Wrong. He was traded to the Saints for Sean Knight, who while also a bust was New Orleans 1st round pick the year before. He only lasted one year with the Saints, so while a bust, was not cut his rookie year.

Didnt Malik Jackson also force two fumbles against the 49ers? This guy has made the team for sure.

TheReverend
08-31-2012, 05:56 AM
Malik Jackson played like a boss EVERY night

TheReverend
08-31-2012, 05:59 AM
Trevathan also had a hell of a game. If there were doubts about him they have been erased

Decent, but it'll prob be a while before he gets over being bull-dozed for a few more yards by Beanie

Baba Booey
08-31-2012, 06:28 AM
How was he not more productive in college? He's constantly in the defensive backfield.

Whatever. Good pick, as was the Trevathan one. Looks like Bolden can play too.

canadianbroncosfan
08-31-2012, 06:53 AM
Malik Jackson played like a boss EVERY night

Exactly

2KBack
08-31-2012, 07:14 AM
His instincts are great. I just wonder if he could put on a few pounds and be an every down player for the team, instead of a fill-in type guy

He's probably already bigger than Ian Gold

Drek
08-31-2012, 07:37 AM
Jackson is a really interesting player. Got moved around and played out of position in college, then completely changed his physical dimensions before the combine. He was ~270 in college and now he's at 290, yet his quickness and burst don't appear to be hindered. Crazy thing is he came out of high school at 6'5", 212 by Rivals, was at 250 when he left USC, so putting on weight rapidly without being slowed too much is a hallmark of his development over the last few years.

Pretty interesting to see what he could turn into. The inherent skepticism people take when looking at late round picks is generally with good reason, but late round picks don't normally alter their makeup nearly as much as Jackson has been able to. Scouts always talk about guys having the frame to add weight but you rarely ever see it actually happen (see Jarvis Moss). The fact that Jackson has been able to do it consistently without hindering his play is really damn interesting.

The real question for him going forward is this: Do you see if he can add another 10-15 pounds and become a full time DT, or do you keep him at 290 and use him as a hybrid, all across the DL, type? Same question we need to answer about Wolfe, honestly.

TheReverend
08-31-2012, 08:05 AM
Jackson is a really interesting player. Got moved around and played out of position in college, then completely changed his physical dimensions before the combine. He was ~270 in college and now he's at 290, yet his quickness and burst don't appear to be hindered. Crazy thing is he came out of high school at 6'5", 212 by Rivals, was at 250 when he left USC, so putting on weight rapidly without being slowed too much is a hallmark of his development over the last few years.

Pretty interesting to see what he could turn into. The inherent skepticism people take when looking at late round picks is generally with good reason, but late round picks don't normally alter their makeup nearly as much as Jackson has been able to. Scouts always talk about guys having the frame to add weight but you rarely ever see it actually happen (see Jarvis Moss). The fact that Jackson has been able to do it consistently without hindering his play is really damn interesting.

The real question for him going forward is this: Do you see if he can add another 10-15 pounds and become a full time DT, or do you keep him at 290 and use him as a hybrid, all across the DL, type? Same question we need to answer about Wolfe, honestly.

We have JDR. He stays.

Rascal
08-31-2012, 08:09 AM
Jackson is a really interesting player. Got moved around and played out of position in college, then completely changed his physical dimensions before the combine. He was ~270 in college and now he's at 290, yet his quickness and burst don't appear to be hindered. Crazy thing is he came out of high school at 6'5", 212 by Rivals, was at 250 when he left USC, so putting on weight rapidly without being slowed too much is a hallmark of his development over the last few years.

Pretty interesting to see what he could turn into. The inherent skepticism people take when looking at late round picks is generally with good reason, but late round picks don't normally alter their makeup nearly as much as Jackson has been able to. Scouts always talk about guys having the frame to add weight but you rarely ever see it actually happen (see Jarvis Moss). The fact that Jackson has been able to do it consistently without hindering his play is really damn interesting.

The real question for him going forward is this: Do you see if he can add another 10-15 pounds and become a full time DT, or do you keep him at 290 and use him as a hybrid, all across the DL, type? Same question we need to answer about Wolfe, honestly.

Hybrids are the future, son!

I like hybrids for both of them. Can be stout outside against the run in running situations and kick ass inside on passing downs.

Frankly, I'd rather see more of Jackson than Ayers who has the pass rushing moves of an icebox.

Requiem
08-31-2012, 08:11 AM
I think it was Mediator who was pumping up Malik in the OM Mock Draft and raved about him. Sounds like he was right. If Wolfe and Malik can pan out, that'd be great.

gyldenlove
08-31-2012, 08:14 AM
Maurice Clarett comes to mind.

Recently? Hmm...


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Blake Schlueter (2009), Mike Mohamed, Jeremy Beal from last year off the top of my head.

gyldenlove
08-31-2012, 08:15 AM
Malik Jackson has been the most consistent and by far the best of the 2nd and 3rd team defensive players throughout the preseason games, he has consistently made plays in the backfield.

dictionary
08-31-2012, 08:30 AM
Elway et al did a great job with this draft, and with last year's draft. Most of the guys are looking like solid starter material. A few are looking like they could easily develop into stars for the team.

barryr
08-31-2012, 08:45 AM
Jackson is a keeper for sure. He could be like that Jason Jones DL who plays both DT and DE.

Broncos_OTM
08-31-2012, 08:50 AM
but we could have l david!!!

Drek
08-31-2012, 08:54 AM
Hybrids are the future, son!

I like hybrids for both of them. Can be stout outside against the run in running situations and kick ass inside on passing downs.
I would personally agree. I also think that is the mindset of the FO. The goal seems to be to build something new here that takes inspiration from the Giants mix and match DL configurations while also being able to switch up and run 3-3 looks for our nickel packages, getting Miller up on the line as a rush LB.

Imagine the 5-2 look we could put together with Doom and Miller on the edges, Jackson and Wolfe lined up as 5-techs, and either Warren or Bannan as the nose.

Frankly, I'd rather see more of Jackson than Ayers who has the pass rushing moves of an icebox.
Ayers needs to take the next step. He's got the physical tools and he's good against the run but this is year four of his career, year two at DE. He needs to show some growth as a pass rusher or get relegated to a situational player/2nd string.

That isn't the worst thing in the world, a guy like Ayers as your second stringer is the kind of depth we've all been bitching about not having for years. But it would be very nice to see him take a step forward as a pass rusher.

Rascal
08-31-2012, 09:11 AM
Ayers is a FA next year, no? I doubt he comes back as he will probably want starting $$.

barryr
08-31-2012, 09:13 AM
Ayers is a FA next year, no? I doubt he comes back as he will probably want starting $$.

Good luck to him getting that anywhere. He seemed more athletic when he first came into the NFL than he is now.

BroncoMan4ever
08-31-2012, 10:12 AM
He's probably already bigger than Ian Gold

Ty Warren takes ****s that are bigger than Ian Gold was.

Dedhed
08-31-2012, 10:13 AM
Elway et al did a great job with this draft, and with last year's draft. Most of the guys are looking like solid starter material. A few are looking like they could easily develop into stars for the team.

Yeah, it's really nice to see our draftees looking like they'll stick and become the core of the team instead of trying to repair botched drafts through patchwork FA signings ala Shanahan and McDaniels.

Last years class looks like a win based solely on getting a player like Von Miller. Add in Orlando Franklin and Quentin Carter who started extensively as rookies and it gets even better.

This years class looks even better. Wolfe appears to be the real deal and the first DL drafted who could develop into a real player. Hillman is going to contribute immediately, Osweiler has shown great potential to be the QBOTF, and we appear to have found two players in the late rounds with Malik Jackson and Danny Trevathan who could play impact roles in the future.

Add in guys like Nate Irving, Rahim Moore, Chris Harris, Jeremy Beal, Omar Bolden, and Virgil Green and we've had two nice classes that have added impact players and a group of guys that look like they'll develop into solid contributors going forward. If they continue to develop and the drafts continue in this vein, we'll have developed a great roster and have the type of depth that the perennial contenders rely on.

The future is looking pretty good in Denver at the moment.

BroncoMan4ever
08-31-2012, 10:19 AM
Yeah, it's really nice to see our draftees looking like they'll stick and become the core of the team instead of trying to repair botched drafts through patchwork FA signings ala Shanahan and McDaniels.

Last years class looks like a win based solely on getting a player like Von Miller. Add in Orlando Franklin and Quentin Carter who started extensively as rookies and it gets even better.

This years class looks even better. Wolfe appears to be the real deal and the first DL drafted who could develop into a real player. Hillman is going to contribute immediately, Osweiler has shown great potential to be the QBOTF, and we appear to have found two players in the late rounds with Malik Jackson and Danny Trevathan who could play impact roles in the future.

Add in guys like Nate Irving, Rahim Moore, Chris Harris, Jeremy Beal, Omar Bolden, and Virgil Green and we've had two nice classes that have added impact players and a group of guys that look like they'll develop into solid contributors going forward. If they continue to develop and the drafts continue in this vein, we'll have developed a great roster and have the type of depth that the perennial contenders rely on.

The future is looking pretty good in Denver at the moment.

Add Virgil Green to the list of guys who could become big time players for this team. he has more natural ability than any other TE on the roster. I been high on him since last years draft. Don't be shocked if he is a big contributor on offense by the end of the season

Inkana7
08-31-2012, 10:44 AM
Jackson has looked good, man. He's been one of the most pleasing surprises of this preseason. For a guy his size he moves very well and seems (it's hard to tell a lot of the time from grainy internet broadcasts) to use his hands a lot better than you'd expect a rookie to. Way to go, Elway and co.

Mediator12
08-31-2012, 02:51 PM
Malik is my adopt a bronco for a reason. He was severely overlooked by the nationwide scouting groups and when you watch him play he has all kinds of natural ability. He is just not a 2 gap NT like TEN tried to make him sometimes. It makes his film look bad in college getting bulldozed on double teams at the POA.

When you saw him get singled or pass rush on the edge, it was a whole different animal. Then, I saw he was playing out of postion due to necessity. His effort was very solid even though he was asked to play out of position. Liked him right then and there. True football player character.

Now, he just needs to get more reps in a solid rotation. This is the best front 7 DEN has put on the field in decades. I hope he becomes a bigger part of that!

Bacchus
08-31-2012, 02:57 PM
Wrong. He was traded to the Saints for Sean Knight, who while also a bust was New Orleans 1st round pick the year before. He only lasted one year with the Saints, so while a bust, was not cut his rookie year.

Didnt Malik Jackson also force two fumbles against the 49ers? This guy has made the team for sure.

Yes, Gregory only lasted a year but he did sack John Elway in the 42-0 ass whooping hte Saints put on the Broncos that year.