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pricejj
08-28-2012, 10:45 AM
QB (3) - Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
OL (8) - Clady, Beadles, Walton, Kuper, Franklin, Ramirez, Clark, Blake
TE (3) - Tamme, Dreessen, J. Thomas
WR (5) - DT, Decker, Stokley, Willis, Caldwell
RB (5) - McGahee, Ball, Hillman, Moreno, Gronkowski

DL (9) - Dumervil, Warren, Vickerson, Wolfe, Bannan, Unrein, Jackson, Beal, Ayers
LB (6) - Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Irving, Trevathan, Brooking
CB (6) - Bailey, Porter, Harris, Florence, T. Carter, Bolden
S (5) - Adams, Moore, Carter, Leonhard, Bruton

K - Prater
P - Colquitt
LS - Brewer

ludo21
08-28-2012, 10:56 AM
That looks good. I also see them keeping 5 RB's.

Payton all but assured Ball would remain with the team in the last quote I saw, and Fox guaranteed Brooking would be around as well by stating the other day that "he knows what he has in him with film"

crush17
08-28-2012, 10:56 AM
I'm not so sure Matthew Willis makes this team anymore....

orange skier
08-28-2012, 10:57 AM
not bad...........Blake may not make it.......but, none the less, I'd be happy with this group going into the Pittsburg game........

Kaylore
08-28-2012, 11:03 AM
I'm not so sure Matthew Willis makes this team anymore....

He did all he could to get cut last game, that's for sure.

Dexter
08-28-2012, 11:05 AM
Looks good. Personally I like the idea of having an extra safety or running back over having tony carter. That's just me though.

Traveler
08-28-2012, 11:13 AM
QB (3) - Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
OL (8) - Clady, Beadles, Walton, Kuper, Franklin, Ramirez, Clark, Blake
TE (3) - Tamme, Dreessen, J. Thomas
WR (5) - DT, Decker, Stokley, Willis, Caldwell
RB (5) - McGahee, Ball, Hillman, Moreno, Gronkowski

DL (9) - Dumervil, Warren, Vickerson, Wolfe, Bannan, Unrein, Jackson, Beal, Ayers
LB (6) - Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Irving, Trevathan, Brooking
CB (6) - Bailey, Porter, Harris, Florence, T. Carter, Bolden
S (5) - Adams, Moore, Carter, Leonhard, Bruton

K - Prater
P - Colquitt
LS - Brewer



Only Changes I'd make are:

JJ for Moreno
Johnson or Franklin for Brooking

broncocalijohn
08-28-2012, 11:18 AM
I would like to see Johnson as one of the RBs. Not sure if he is even eligible for PS anymore as he did play some games last season. We are sure thin at WR after Stokely and he is even long in the tooth. Not sure if Blatnick makes it as a DL or goes to PS but I have word the Broncos like him but not sure if he is liked enough for the 53 man squad. He hasn't been getting much play before the 4th quarter.

Quoydogs
08-28-2012, 11:26 AM
QB (3) - Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
OL (8) - Clady, Beadles, Walton, Kuper, Franklin, Ramirez, Clark, Blake
TE (3) - Tamme, Dreessen, J. Thomas
WR (5) - DT, Decker, Stokley, Willis, Caldwell
RB (5) - McGahee, Ball, Hillman, Moreno, Gronkowski

DL (9) - Dumervil, Warren, Vickerson, Wolfe, Bannan, Unrein, Jackson, Beal, Ayers
LB (6) - Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Irving, Trevathan, Brooking
CB (6) - Bailey, Porter, Harris, Florence, T. Carter, Bolden
S (5) - Adams, Moore, Carter, Leonhard, Bruton

K - Prater
P - Colquitt
LS - Brewer

This looks pretty good but I don't see keeping 5 backs. Oh and for the love of all **** can Florence.

gyldenlove
08-28-2012, 11:31 AM
I don't think Brooking makes it, I am also pretty sure we are going to fish through other cuts and try to pick up possibly a WR, LB and OL.

Mogulseeker
08-28-2012, 11:39 AM
Project 53-Man Depth Chart
1 = First option | 2 = Second Option | 3 = Third option, etc., etc…
PS – Relegated to practice squad | ST: spot reserved for special teams
C – Released | IR: Injured Reserve

Offense - 24
3 Quarterbacks – P.Manning (1), C.Hanie (2), B.Osweiler (3)
- PS: A.Weber

5 Runningbacks – W.McGahee (1a), C.Gronkowski (1b), R.Hillman (3), K.Moreno (4), L.Ball (4)
- PS: J.Johnson / C: X.Oman, A.Sylvester

4 Wide Recievers – E.Decker (1a), D.Thomas (1b), B.Stokley (3), A.Caldwell (4), M.Willis (ST)
- PS: G.Robinson / C: G.Orton, J.Hill, M.Dell, C.Kenney

4 Tight Ends – J.Dreesen (1a), J.Tamme(1b), J.Thomas (3), V.Green (4)
- C: C. Ingrahm, A.Miller

8 Offensive linemen (3OT, 3OG, 2C) - OT: R.Clady(1a), O.Franklin (1b),C.Clark (3) | OG: Chris Kuper (1a), Zane Beadles (1b), M.Ramirez (3) | C: JD Walton (1), P.Blake (2)
- PS: C.Davis / C: A.Grant, T.Hills, M.Remmers, W.Tribute

Defense - 23
5 Cornerbacks – C.Bailey (1a), T.Porter (1b), C.Harris (3), D.Florence (4), O.Bolden (5)
- C: S.Thompson, T.Carter, A.Perkins, R.Robinson

4 Safeties – R.Moore (1a), Q.Carter (1b), M.Adams (3), J.Leonhard (4), D.Bruton (ST)
- PS: D.Ihenacho / C: R.Bush

5 Linebackers (3OLB/2MLB) - OLB: V.Miller (1a), W.Woodyard (1b), D.Trevathan (3) | MLB: J.Mays (1), N.Irving (2)
- PS: M.Mohammed / C: K.Brooking, E.Coffey, J.Franklin, D.Williams

9 Linemen (5DE/4DT) DE: E.Dumervil (1a), D.Wolfe, R.Ayers (3), J.Beal (4), M.Jackson (5) | DT: T.Warren (1a), K.Vickerson (1b), J.Bannan (3), M.Unrein (4)
- PS: B.Garland, S.Silliga / C: J.Blatnik, C.Obiozor / IR: J.Hunter

Special Teams - 5
1 Kicker: M.Prater
1 Punter: B.Colquitt
1 Long Snapper: Brewer
ST Specialist: D.Bruton
1 Returner: M.Willis

Mogulseeker
08-28-2012, 11:40 AM
I would like to see Johnson as one of the RBs. Not sure if he is even eligible for PS anymore as he did play some games last season. We are sure thin at WR after Stokely and he is even long in the tooth. Not sure if Blatnick makes it as a DL or goes to PS but I have word the Broncos like him but not sure if he is liked enough for the 53 man squad. He hasn't been getting much play before the 4th quarter.

I think it's less than 6 games.

Bacchus
08-28-2012, 11:42 AM
Only Changes I'd make are:

JJ for Moreno
Johnson or Franklin for Brooking

I think Johnson makes the team. Just a hunch. Of course he would be a good practice squad guy as well.

Gort
08-28-2012, 11:42 AM
That looks good. I also see them keeping 5 RB's.

Payton all but assured Ball would remain with the team in the last quote I saw, and Fox guaranteed Brooking would be around as well by stating the other day that "he knows what he has in him with film"

Lance Ball was in Indiacrapolis for a full year. mostly on the PS, but he also played in a handful of games. he practiced with Manning. Manning knows him from there and they already had chemistry. he is basically "a lock" to make this team for that reason (barring any major screwups), just like Stokley and Tamme.

Bronco Boy
08-28-2012, 11:44 AM
So Ryan Harris is getting cut? Guess I didn't pay too much attention to him so far in preseason, is he looking that bad?

Bacchus
08-28-2012, 11:54 AM
So Ryan Harris is getting cut? Guess I didn't pay too much attention to him so far in preseason, is he looking that bad?

The Denver Post had a little blurb about him. You remember coming out of Notre Dame He had back problems then he hurt his toe and McD did not like him. He went to the Eagles where he hurt his back again and spent all last year on IR. The speculation is that he is not as mobile and as strong as he used to be. it seems this might be his final stop in the NFL unless he can spen this year rehabbing it and get stronger.

Jekyll15Hyde
08-28-2012, 11:59 AM
I would like to see Johnson as one of the RBs. Not sure if he is even eligible for PS anymore as he did play some games last season. We are sure thin at WR after Stokely and he is even long in the tooth. Not sure if Blatnick makes it as a DL or goes to PS but I have word the Broncos like him but not sure if he is liked enough for the 53 man squad. He hasn't been getting much play before the 4th quarter.

He's not. I listened to a radio interview with him where talked about this being an all or nothing shot

cmhargrove
08-28-2012, 12:11 PM
I know that Virgil Green has the suspension looming, but he has shown me a much higher talent level than Julius Thomas. I just don't see why we would pick Thomas over Green. Green has at least shown in college that he has the potential to be a downfield playmaker. Thomas just hasn't shown me a single reason to believe he will pan out.

JLesSPE
08-28-2012, 12:19 PM
I know that Virgil Green has the suspension looming, but he has shown me a much higher talent level than Julius Thomas. I just don't see why we would pick Thomas over Green. Green has at least shown in college that he has the potential to be a downfield playmaker. Thomas just hasn't shown me a single reason to believe he will pan out.

Green won't count against the roster until he comes back from suspension, so they won't have to make that decision until then. I would think they'd keep Thomas and Ingram until Green comes back. I don't know who you'd drop to free up that roster spot though.

BroncoMan4ever
08-28-2012, 12:30 PM
QB (3) - Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
OL (8) - Clady, Beadles, Walton, Kuper, Franklin, Ramirez, Clark, Blake
TE (3) - Tamme, Dreessen, J. Thomas
WR (5) - DT, Decker, Stokley, Willis, Caldwell
RB (5) - McGahee, Ball, Hillman, Moreno, Gronkowski

DL (9) - Dumervil, Warren, Vickerson, Wolfe, Bannan, Unrein, Jackson, Beal, Ayers
LB (6) - Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Irving, Trevathan, Brooking
CB (6) - Bailey, Porter, Harris, Florence, T. Carter, Bolden
S (5) - Adams, Moore, Carter, Leonhard, Bruton

K - Prater
P - Colquitt
LS - Brewer

No way we only keep 3 TE. That is a big position for this offense. Not only that but if it came down to Thomas or Green, it will be Green because Thomas has done nothing. Tamme Dreesen Green and Thomas all make it and maybe Ingram is part of the 53 man roster while Green is on suspension

pricejj
08-28-2012, 12:34 PM
So Ryan Harris is getting cut? Guess I didn't pay too much attention to him so far in preseason, is he looking that bad?

Ryan Harris is one of my favorite Broncos, but right now he is the 8th OL. I had a conversation with him at the scrimmage, and I absolutely love that dude. I was hoping he would start at RT. The team would be taking a gamble by only carrying 3 OT's, but they can PS Adam Grant, and Beadles could play OT in a pinch too... I imagine a guy like Tony Hills would also be available to sign in a dire emergency.

His other only saving grace would be to cut one of the 11 DB's (Tony Carter?...whom I have as our 4th best CB), or 9 DL (Bannan?). Just can't see it. We need Leonhard to punt return, and Bruton is by far our best shooter on special teams.

You have to consider that all other 32 NFL teams will be carrying OT's on the PS that we could call up if needed (Levi Adcock would be good).

Requiem
08-28-2012, 12:49 PM
Julius Thomas was a wasted draft pick. Loved Virgil Green tho.

Broncos_OTM
08-28-2012, 01:11 PM
I missed the last game. was there that many dropped passes. I thought Ingram looked decent, better then thomas for sure. I don't even think thomas has had a reception this preseason has he?

what do y'all think is a weak spot so far this year that should be addressed next year

uplink
08-28-2012, 04:04 PM
No way we only keep 3 TE. That is a big position for this offense. Not only that but if it came down to Thomas or Green, it will be Green because Thomas has done nothing. Tamme Dreesen Green and Thomas all make it and maybe Ingram is part of the 53 man roster while Green is on suspension

I agree. Also there is only one good blocking TE (Dreesen). I think they may keep Ingram since he is the best blocker then choose between Thomas and Green when Green returns. Could also replace Ingram with a waved blocking TE.

DenverBroncosJM
08-28-2012, 05:11 PM
Not keeping JJ over knosho is almost criminal

pricejj
08-28-2012, 05:31 PM
No way we only keep 3 TE. That is a big position for this offense. Not only that but if it came down to Thomas or Green, it will be Green because Thomas has done nothing. Tamme Dreesen Green and Thomas all make it and maybe Ingram is part of the 53 man roster while Green is on suspension

Okay, so who do you cut?

ward63
08-28-2012, 07:13 PM
Saliga being cut would be the sign of how much offseason fluff pieces can be.

ozomulsion
08-28-2012, 08:53 PM
Not keeping JJ over knosho is almost criminal

Dumbest thing I've read all day.

Bacchus
08-28-2012, 11:21 PM
Dumbest thing I've read all day.

I would rather have Johnson over Moreno. Johnson is much faster thus much deadlier on screen passes and swing pass which Peyton loves.

canadianbroncosfan
08-28-2012, 11:26 PM
I would rather have Johnson over Moreno. Johnson is much faster thus much deadlier on screen passes and swing pass which Peyton loves.

I totally agree. Although KM showed promise in his last game, it's almost too little too late with him for me. I'm not the GM though and unless we trade him, KM is making this team

wolf754life
08-28-2012, 11:42 PM
knowshon isn't going anywhere

Nwp-Apap
08-28-2012, 11:43 PM
I would rather have Johnson over Moreno. Johnson is much faster thus much deadlier on screen passes and swing pass which Peyton loves.

No. Moreno is better than Johnson at everything.

Bacchus
08-28-2012, 11:58 PM
I totally agree. Although KM showed promise in his last game, it's almost too little too late with him for me. I'm not the GM though and unless we trade him, KM is making this team

In Denver Post today Elway stated all backup players MUST play special teams. KM does not play any special teams. Does Johnson?

I would not be suprised if RB is one of the positions the Broncos grab someone aftere the final cutdown. Neither Moreno or Johnson have shown anything.

broncocalijohn
08-29-2012, 12:51 AM
knowshon isn't going anywhere

That is only because he fell when he came off the bench and can't move.

Johnson excites me. I haven't seen much from Moreno since he was a 1st round pick. I like how he played against the 49ers but is that the Moreno in 2012?

JakeZ01
08-29-2012, 06:27 AM
JJ has never even outperform knowshon in preseason...idiots.

DBroncos4life
08-29-2012, 06:57 AM
I'm getting a kick out of you guys trying to decide which crappy RB to keep!

Inkana7
08-31-2012, 09:59 AM
Disclaimer: This is mostly projection, but with a little armchair GMing for positions like RB and LB.

QB (3) - Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
RB (5) - McGahee, Moreno, Hillman, Johnson, Gronkowski
WR (5) - Decker, Thomas, Stokley, Willis, Caldwell
TE (3*) - Tamme, Dreesen, Green*, Ingram
*Green replaces Ingram on roster after suspension
OL (9) - Clady, Kuper, Walton, Beadles, Franklin, Ramierez, Clark, Blake, Grant
Offense: 25

DL (9) - Dumervil, Wolfe, Bannan, Warren, Vickerson, Unrein, Jackson, Ayers, Beal
LB (7*) - Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Travathan, Irving, Brooking, Johnson*
*Johnson replaced by DJ after suspension.
DB (10) - Bailey, Porter, Morris, Adams, Carter, Leonahard, Bruton, Harris, Florence, Bolden
Defense: 25

ST (3) - Colquitt, Prater, Brewer
Special Teams: 3

LetsGoBroncos
08-31-2012, 10:17 AM
Disclaimer: This is mostly projection, but with a little armchair GMing for positions like RB and LB.

QB (3) - Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
RB (5) - McGahee, Moreno, Hillman, Johnson, Gronkowski
WR (5) - Decker, Thomas, Stokley, Willis, Caldwell
TE (3*) - Tamme, Dreesen, Green*, Ingram
*Green replaces Ingram on roster after suspension
OL (9) - Clady, Kuper, Walton, Beadles, Franklin, Ramierez, Clark, Blake, Grant
Offense: 25

DL (8) - Dumervil, Wolfe, Bannan, Warren, Vickerson, Unrein, Jackson, Ayers
LB (7*) - Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Travathan, Irving, Brooking, Johnson*
*Johnson replaced by DJ after suspension.
DB (10) - Bailey, Porter, Morris, Adams, Carter, Leonahard, Bruton, Harris, Florence, Bolden
Defense: 24

ST (3) - Colquitt, Prater, Brewer
Special Teams: 3

That adds up to 52?

pricejj
08-31-2012, 10:54 AM
Disclaimer: This is mostly projection, but with a little armchair GMing for positions like RB and LB.

QB (3) - Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
RB (5) - McGahee, Moreno, Hillman, Johnson, Gronkowski
WR (5) - Decker, Thomas, Stokley, Willis, Caldwell
TE (3*) - Tamme, Dreesen, Green*, Ingram
*Green replaces Ingram on roster after suspension
OL (9) - Clady, Kuper, Walton, Beadles, Franklin, Ramierez, Clark, Blake, Grant
Offense: 25

DL (8) - Dumervil, Wolfe, Bannan, Warren, Vickerson, Unrein, Jackson, Ayers
LB (7*) - Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Travathan, Irving, Brooking, Johnson*
*Johnson replaced by DJ after suspension.
DB (10) - Bailey, Porter, Morris, Adams, Carter, Leonahard, Bruton, Harris, Florence, Bolden
Defense: 24

ST (3) - Colquitt, Prater, Brewer
Special Teams: 3

Things of note:
1. Kuper can be put on temporary IR, freeing up another temporary roster space.
2. Good call with Adam Grant making the cut, we will definitely need 2 backup OT's. Adam's is beastly, and often gets called on holding penalties simply because he is manhandling his opponent.
3. Good call with Stevie Johnson making the cut. (keeping Johnson will make it so we don't have to waste a draft pick on MLB next year).
4. After Trevathan's performance last night, I think D.J. is expendable after he comes off suspension.
5. I think the Broncos will lose Gerell Robinson if he doesn't make the team...which sucks.
6. Tony Carter has to make this squad based on last night's performance. Easily the squads 4th best CB.
7. Bruton get's Kuper's spot (due to temporary IR)...but when Kuper come's back, let Bruton go. He offers nothing at the Safety position, and you can't keep a guy, strictly because of his punt coverage skills. We have other guys who will do well in that role (Trevathan, Johnson, Woodyard, Bolden. Maybe even keep Beal over Bruton from the start.

Lestat
08-31-2012, 10:55 AM
Hanie has no business making this team. Mark Kizla said it best
"The NFL is a tough business. And Caleb Hanie has no business playing quarterback for the Broncos. When Denver announces cuts Friday, he needs to hit the street."

"If honest, even Broncomaniacs who hold a grudge against former coach Josh McDaniels would have to admit: Running back Knowshon Moreno is a better football player than Hanie."

"If David Bruton blocks one punt this season, he likely will have contributed more to Denver's success than Hanie could.

Defensive lineman Malik Jackson has greater potential than Hanie, so I would rather see Hanie looking for playing time in Canada."

Read more: It's time for Broncos QB Caleb Hanie to hit the pavement - The Denver Post
It's time for Caleb Hanie to hit the pavement (http://www.denverpost.com/lunchspecial/ci_21443535/its-time-broncos-qb-caleb-hanie-hit-pavement#ixzz259DFAROZ)

Agamemnon
08-31-2012, 11:05 AM
Not keeping JJ over knosho is almost criminal

Moreno has played a lot with the 2nd string and has looked good in the process. Johnson has been playing with the guys who will all be cut. While I like JJ, I don't think he has any real chance to stick on the roster over Moreno.

BroncoMan4ever
08-31-2012, 11:08 AM
Okay, so who do you cut?

Tamme, Dreesen, Thomas and Green stick. Since Green doesn't count against the 53 man roster until his suspension is up, Ingram may hang on for a month until Green returns

gyldenlove
08-31-2012, 11:08 AM
Hanie has no business making this team. Mark Kizla said it best
"The NFL is a tough business. And Caleb Hanie has no business playing quarterback for the Broncos. When Denver announces cuts Friday, he needs to hit the street."

"If honest, even Broncomaniacs who hold a grudge against former coach Josh McDaniels would have to admit: Running back Knowshon Moreno is a better football player than Hanie."

"If David Bruton blocks one punt this season, he likely will have contributed more to Denver's success than Hanie could.

Defensive lineman Malik Jackson has greater potential than Hanie, so I would rather see Hanie looking for playing time in Canada."

Read more: It's time for Broncos QB Caleb Hanie to hit the pavement - The Denver Post
It's time for Caleb Hanie to hit the pavement (http://www.denverpost.com/lunchspecial/ci_21443535/its-time-broncos-qb-caleb-hanie-hit-pavement#ixzz259DFAROZ)

I agree that Hanie has no business making the roster, but we saw last year that Fox does not like going with fewer than 3 QBs on the roster, especially when he has a young guy.

gyldenlove
08-31-2012, 11:09 AM
Tamme, Dreesen, Thomas and Green stick. Since Green doesn't count against the 53 man roster until his suspension is up, Ingram may hang on for a month until Green returns

I don't see Thomas sticking, his blocking is not good enough and he has not shown anything that makes him an insterest reciever. I would imagine we will scour the waiver wire for a veteran TE Who can fill the 3rd spot until Green is back from suspension.

gyldenlove
08-31-2012, 11:10 AM
Saliga being cut would be the sign of how much offseason fluff pieces can be.

Never trust any evaluation made without pads.

Drunken.Broncoholic
08-31-2012, 11:12 AM
So when Kuper gets back what happens to Ramirez? I think he's adapted pretty good and would like to see him replace Beadles. Clady Ramirez Walton Kuper Franklin looks like a dam decent line

Lestat
08-31-2012, 11:19 AM
I agree that Hanie has no business making the roster, but we saw last year that Fox does not like going with fewer than 3 QBs on the roster, especially when he has a young guy.

someone will get cut today, make a trade, do something to improve the QB position. keeping Hanie is not plan A!

Gort
08-31-2012, 11:21 AM
So when Kuper gets back what happens to Ramirez? I think he's adapted pretty good and would like to see him replace Beadles. Clady Ramirez Walton Kuper Franklin looks like a dam decent line

the Kurgan will come for him. there can be only one.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_plp-lJXeR88/R530nFk6XZI/AAAAAAAAA2A/OQdgQTaT-EY/s320/kurganramirez08.jpg

Tombstone RJ
08-31-2012, 11:23 AM
I'd rather cut Hanie and keep and extra DL guy myself. Or an extra LBer.

Inkana7
08-31-2012, 11:32 AM
That adds up to 52?

Heh, thanks for catching that. I forgot to add Beal to the DL.

Agamemnon
08-31-2012, 11:34 AM
So when Kuper gets back what happens to Ramirez? I think he's adapted pretty good and would like to see him replace Beadles. Clady Ramirez Walton Kuper Franklin looks like a dam decent line

Sounds like a good idea to me. I actually think Beadles could be a decent sixth lineman, but he really shouldn't be a starter.

bronco militia
08-31-2012, 11:35 AM
I'd rather cut Hanie and keep and extra DL guy myself. Or an extra LBer.

lol...I'd like to agree, but we don't have enough LB's worth keeping

Tombstone RJ
08-31-2012, 11:38 AM
lol...I'd like to agree, but we don't have enough LB's worth keeping

Perhaps, but cut Hanie and bring in some talent from another team that is has been cut, like that SS from Philly, or an interior olineman. I think the Broncos can always bring Hanie in if they need him as I doubt another team will pick him up.