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Bacchus
08-09-2012, 04:41 PM
Dontari Poe has 'a ways to go' for Chiefs, coach says

By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League editor
Published: Aug. 9, 2012 at 10:26 a.m. Updated: Aug. 9, 2012 at 03:33 p.m.


When a team drafts a player at No. 11 overall, there are certain expectations. The Kansas City Chiefs are trying to lower the expectations for defensive tackle Dontari Poe.

The Memphis product hasn't received a ton of reps early in training camp. Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel recently was asked what Poe needs to work on to get on the field more.




"A lot," Crennel said. "He needs to work on technique, he needs to work on understanding the system, he needs to get the calls correct all the time. He's got a ways to go."

This isn't just coach speak. The Chiefs would love Poe to start. A second-year undrafted player named Anthony Toribio, who spent last year on the practice squad, currently is lined up as a starter. Poe is getting snaps in some passing situations.

Poe told the Kansas City Star that he has struggled to adjust to his new nose tackle spot.

"It's all different," he said. "The technique of it, there's nothing the same about the college level. The only thing the same is that it's football. As far as the speed level and the strength and all that, you've got to learn it all."

We love the young Chiefs defense, but the interior defensive line could be a weakness. Poe is the guy who's supposed to help them there, and he doesn't sound ready.



Rest of article: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000047881/article/dontari-poe-has-a-ways-to-go-for-chiefs-coach-says

Bacchus
08-09-2012, 04:44 PM
I am so glad KC drafted him. I remember many people had him falling to Denver. This guy is your typical workout warrior. Looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.

He underachieved in college becoming invisible at Memphis must be tough for any 1st round draft pick, but boy does he look good in shorts!!!

Dorsey and him will make a great team.....LMAO!!!

Rohirrim
08-09-2012, 04:44 PM
Anthony Toribio? Geezus. :rofl:

LonghornBronco
08-09-2012, 04:46 PM
Bwaa haa ha!

colorado jones
08-09-2012, 04:48 PM
In before KCSperm tells everyone how awesome Poe is.

Bacchus
08-09-2012, 04:51 PM
I remember one draft analysys of Poe was that he was this huge workout guy but he had these short arms which is great for a bench press but he was easily handled by the OL because of his shorter arms. He was very underwhelming at Memphis I just find it hard to believe NFL people do not see this.

I remember the Broncos being high on him as well.

Drunken.Broncoholic
08-09-2012, 04:55 PM
KCstud thinks he's a pro bowler already. I laugh at their demise.

Doggcow
08-09-2012, 04:56 PM
ROFL They just can't pick a Dlineman to save their lives.

DBroncos4life
08-09-2012, 05:01 PM
KCstud thinks he's a pro bowler already. I laugh at their demise.

No he will say something re****ingtarded then follow it up with something that has nothing to do with any ****ing thing.:P

cmhargrove
08-09-2012, 05:33 PM
Maybe they can switch him to fullback?

SoCalBronco
08-09-2012, 05:35 PM
What say you...sheep stud?

Jekyll15Hyde
08-09-2012, 05:43 PM
alfred williams had this one called right for a change

Kaylore
08-09-2012, 05:47 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/55595/title_atsp_huge_medium.jpg

Houshyamama
08-09-2012, 06:03 PM
ROFL They just can't pick a Dlineman to save their lives.

Well, outside of Doom our track record isn't great either.

DBroncos4life
08-09-2012, 06:06 PM
Well, outside of Doom our track record isn't great either.

Pryce? You could argue that Miller is a hybrid player as well since most of his sacks will come with him on the DLine. Also it's not like Denver has as many top 5 picks as KC to throw at the top DL talent.

Cito Pelon
08-09-2012, 06:07 PM
"It's all different," he said. "The technique of it, there's nothing the same about the college level. The only thing the same is that it's football. As far as the speed level and the strength and all that, you've got to learn it all."

Well, at least he knows the learning curve. If he was a Bronco people would be saying "DL guys need three years to learn the game." I'm sure there was a lot of people on this board wanted Poe on the team, and apparently the FO wanted Poe also.

Lestat
08-09-2012, 06:16 PM
eh, outside of Suh most DT's take a good while to turn it on and become really good.
of course, him struggling to make a impact on the depth chart at all is wildly alarming.

KCStud
08-09-2012, 06:21 PM
A rookie having a long way to go in his first training camp? Yep that definitely means he's a bust

Requiem
08-09-2012, 06:22 PM
Poe will have less than 75 tackles and 5 sacks in his NFL career.

DENVERDUI55
08-09-2012, 06:28 PM
They think Tyson Jackson was well worth his draft status on queefs planet.

KCStud
08-09-2012, 06:28 PM
"It's all different," he said. "The technique of it, there's nothing the same about the college level. The only thing the same is that it's football. As far as the speed level and the strength and all that, you've got to learn it all."

Well, at least he knows the learning curve. If he was a Bronco people would be saying "DL guys need three years to learn the game." I'm sure there was a lot of people on this board wanted Poe on the team, and apparently the FO wanted Poe also.

This.

The guy had a new defensive coordinator every year. Romeo knew he'd have to start from the ground up on his technique.

His main focus this year is getting a pass rush up the middle. Romeo's said his run stopping technique needs a lot of work.

Houshyamama
08-09-2012, 06:28 PM
A rookie having a long way to go in his first training camp? Yep that definitely means he's a bust

Players selected that high are expected to contribute sooner rather than later.

KCStud
08-09-2012, 06:28 PM
They think Rudiments Jackson was well worth his draft status on queefs planet.

Well it's safe to assume you've never been to CP before based on this sentence.

Houshyamama
08-09-2012, 06:29 PM
Pryce? You could argue that Miller is a hybrid player as well since most of his sacks will come with him on the DLine. Also it's not like Denver has as many top 5 picks as KC to throw at the top DL talent.

Pryce was drafted in 97'

KCStud
08-09-2012, 06:30 PM
Players selected that high are expected to contribute sooner rather than later.

NT's take time. Look at the past 1st round NT's. They didn't start a lot of games or have big stats in their rookie seasons either.

skunk
08-09-2012, 06:31 PM
A rookie having a long way to go in his first training camp? Yep that definitely means he's a bust

We have peyton Manning

Houshyamama
08-09-2012, 06:32 PM
NT's take time. Look at the past 1st round NT's. They didn't start a lot of games or have big stats in their rookie seasons either.

Only time will tell I guess, it hasn't exactly been a stellar start for him though.

DBroncos4life
08-09-2012, 06:33 PM
Pryce was drafted in 97'

So he still counts :P

Houshyamama
08-09-2012, 06:34 PM
So he still counts :P

^5

KCStud
08-09-2012, 06:34 PM
Only time will tell I guess, it hasn't exactly been a stellar start for him though.

BJ Raji started one game in his rookie season. Vince Wilfork started 6. Casey Hampton started 11.

NT is one of the hardest positions to play. It was well known that it would take time for him, as it would any other NT prospect.

Requiem
08-09-2012, 06:35 PM
Dontari Poe is fat.

DBroncos4life
08-09-2012, 06:37 PM
^5

I'm just saying when Denver does pick a DLine doesn't suck like KCs do.

KCStud
08-09-2012, 06:39 PM
I'm just saying when Denver does pick a DLine doesn't suck like KCs do.

Jarvis Moss says hi.

Houshyamama
08-09-2012, 06:42 PM
Dontari Poe is fat.

and stupid

Bacchus
08-09-2012, 06:50 PM
This.

The guy had a new defensive coordinator every year. Romeo knew he'd have to start from the ground up on his technique.

His main focus this year is getting a pass rush up the middle. Romeo's said his run stopping technique needs a lot of work.

Explain how he was an average player at Memphis.

KCStud
08-09-2012, 07:04 PM
Explain how he was an average player at Memphis.

You mean how he put up similar numbers to BJ Raji, Phil Taylor and Haloti Ngata playing against mostly spread offenses that get rid of the ball quickly?

Bacchus
08-09-2012, 07:16 PM
You mean how he put up similar numbers to BJ Raji, Phil Taylor and Haloti Ngata playing against mostly spread offenses that get rid of the ball quickly?

I heard Poe's arms are so short he has to have some one else jerk him off.

Bob's your Information Minister
08-09-2012, 07:39 PM
I hope he sucks worse than Ryan Sims.

This town needs an enema.

razorwire77
08-09-2012, 07:49 PM
Hard to believe he'd bust. I mean the guy was 2nd team Conference USA for Christ's Sake!

maven
08-09-2012, 08:02 PM
This guy ****ing sucks. When is Brock going to play

Broncos_OTM
08-09-2012, 08:14 PM
Jarvis Moss says hi.Wolfe says hello

Bacchus
08-09-2012, 08:24 PM
Just think the Chefs could have used their top pick to get Wolfe and they would have been much better off.

KCStud
08-09-2012, 08:35 PM
Just think the Chefs could have used their top pick to get Wolfe and they would have been much better off.

Wolfe is nowhere near big enough to play NT.

Tim
08-09-2012, 08:41 PM
Tyson Jackson, Glen Dorsey, and Dontari Poe

Suck.

barryr
08-09-2012, 08:50 PM
There is just more of a chance that Poe will not make it other than just another player, if that. DT's that underachieve in college just rarely make it big in the NFL and I have heard the excuses, but Poe did not dominate like you'd think he could at least at times playing against mostly weak competition.

Kaylore
08-09-2012, 08:53 PM
I hope he sucks worse than Ryan Sims.

This town needs an enema.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb57526/batman/images/e/e9/Joker_is_Born_(1989).jpg

maven
08-09-2012, 08:56 PM
Brock already throws a better ball than Tebow.

DENVERDUI55
08-09-2012, 09:20 PM
Well it's safe to assume you've never been to CP before based on this sentence.

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=262190&page=11 Just read some of the BS. Bob and some raider thug are only ones that make sense. I love the pff as only source that says he is great.

Bacchus
08-09-2012, 09:38 PM
Wolfe is nowhere near big enough to play NT.

He will pay DT in passing situations, besides he is over 300 lbs.

gunns
08-09-2012, 09:57 PM
Players selected that high are expected to contribute sooner rather than later.

And shouldn't need a "lot" of work

KCStud
08-09-2012, 09:58 PM
He will pay DT in passing situations, besides he is over 300 lbs.

That's in a 4-3. A NT is supposed to be at least 320 lbs.

Kaylore
08-09-2012, 11:21 PM
I love how Methwolfe already has two sacks and Poe is barely able to play football he's so dumb.

Kaylore
08-09-2012, 11:23 PM
He will pay DT in passing situations, besides he is over 300 lbs.

Jay Ratliff plays nose in a 34 defense and he's a pound or two shy of Wolfe.

Rolandftw
08-09-2012, 11:28 PM
Wouldn't look too much into this. It's going to take time for the kid to develop, and we won't know 2-3 years if he's a bust or not. Anyone expecting him to be ready week 1, were being overoptimistic.

KCStud
08-10-2012, 06:16 AM
I love how Methwolfe already has two sacks and Poe is barely able to play football he's so dumb.

Preseason ROY!!!!Hilarious!

Tombstone RJ
08-10-2012, 08:18 AM
Preseason ROY!!!!Hilarious!

herpy derp derp!

Rohirrim
08-10-2012, 08:20 AM
Preseason ROY!!!!Hilarious!

Poe looks set to win the IHOP Pancake Tackling Belt. Of course, they'll have to let it out a bit.

Black96WS6
08-10-2012, 08:31 AM
A rookie having a long way to go in his first training camp? Yep that definitely means he's a bust

Did you happen to catch Melvin Ingram's debut? ;)

DENVERDUI55
08-10-2012, 08:55 AM
Tyson Jackson, Glen Dorsey, and Dontari Poe

Suck.Can I raise you a Ryan Sims? He is the biggest bust of them all. SimsNEXTSapp

dictionary
08-10-2012, 10:37 AM
Well it's safe to assume you've never been to CP before based on this sentence.

At first I was confused and deeply unsettled until I realized that KCStud meant Chiefs Planet and not "Child Pornography".

Heyneck
08-10-2012, 10:37 AM
Preseason ROY!!!!Hilarious!

Better than your preseason SB....

Kaylore
08-10-2012, 10:41 AM
I'm a Chief fan! Ho ho ho! Derek Wolfe had two sacks! That's so funny! ::)

cmhargrove
08-10-2012, 01:01 PM
Wouldn't look too much into this. It's going to take time for the kid to develop, and we won't know 2-3 years if he's a bust or not. Anyone expecting him to be ready week 1, were being overoptimistic.

We haven't watched Poe play (since college when he sucked balls), so I will reserve judgement. But, here was one of my original points from the draft. Google the words "Dontari Poe Highlights" and see what comes up - almost nothing because there are none. Even in the best highlight videos, they really only show about 3 good plays. Nuff said.

However when I judge rookies, especially physical freaks, I do expect them to have early success in one-on-one drills. Team execution may be way behind, but if you are truly bigger, stronger, and faster you should be pushing guys all over the place (even if it is in the wrong direction). If he can't "work em" in practice, he might never make it right...

Irish Stout
08-10-2012, 01:49 PM
I was on the golf course during the draft with the radio playing in the cart. When the Chiefs took Poe I literally dropped my 9 iron. When I got over the shock, I shanked my ball into a pond and said that was about what the Chiefs just did.

I've got a good friend in KC who used to work for the Chiefs. He and I talked after the draft and he couldn't believe that first pick. Said it was absolutely awful and Pioli was just getting his ass ready for a booting at the end of this season. My buddy is about the only sane KC fan I know. Of course, I really don't know many of them.

WolfpackGuy
08-10-2012, 02:30 PM
Can someone picked 5 rounds too high be considered a bust?

LOL

DENVERDUI55
08-10-2012, 02:34 PM
You mean how he put up similar numbers to BJ Raji, Phil Taylor and Haloti Ngata playing against mostly spread offenses that get rid of the ball quickly?

What does the Offense have to do with him being pushed around by college offensive linemen?

bombay
08-10-2012, 02:39 PM
You can't label a guy a bust before he's played his first game... but.. he wan't dominant at Memphis, whatever that tells you. Workout warrior.

Br0nc0Buster
08-10-2012, 02:44 PM
You can't label a guy a bust before he's played his first game... but.. he wan't dominant at Memphis, whatever that tells you. Workout warrior.

"wasnt dominate" is putting it nicely
He didnt do **** against guys that wont sniff the NFL

Half of his "highlights" during the draft on ESPN were clips of him bench pressing and running in shorts

I am not saying there arent any, but I am curious to know what other guys have had success in the pros with modest production in poor conferences

cmhargrove
08-10-2012, 02:46 PM
You mean how he put up similar numbers to BJ Raji, Phil Taylor and Haloti Ngata playing against mostly spread offenses that get rid of the ball quickly?

Oh no you di'unt.

KCStud, did you really insinuate that you honestly believe Poe will be as good as Raji or Ngata? Did you really say that? Just for the record I want to hear it.

ppablo
08-10-2012, 03:05 PM
KCStud wants so bad to be a broncos fan that is why he is on these boards so much... Life must suck in kc

DENVERDUI55
08-10-2012, 03:20 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13968/type/college/phillip-taylor
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/9598/type/college/haloti-ngata
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12447/type/college/bj-raji
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14939/type/college/dontari-poe

Well in true Sheepstud fashion I'll use stats to make an argument and call his bluff. That determines how good a player really is the numbers don't lie. Now all these are similar but one is clearly less than the other 3. 3 of the 4 show a dominant season however one does not. All the players bad years are similar except one of the guys best season is on par with the average season of the others. Numbers don't lie.

Bacchus
08-10-2012, 04:03 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13968/type/college/phillip-taylor
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/9598/type/college/haloti-ngata
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12447/type/college/bj-raji
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14939/type/college/dontari-poe

Well in true Sheepstud fashion I'll use stats to make an argument and call his bluff. That determines how good a player really is the numbers don't lie. Now all these are similar but one is clearly less than the other 3. 3 of the 4 show a dominant season however one does not. All the players bad years are similar except one of the guys best season is on par with the average season of the others. Numbers don't lie.


Great post.... Ok KCpud how are his stats similar! HAHAH His stats are not even close to those players.

FantomForce
08-10-2012, 05:56 PM
BOOOOOOBIE! YOU READY FOR THIS ****!!!!!!!!!

Kaylore
08-10-2012, 06:02 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13968/type/college/phillip-taylor
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/9598/type/college/haloti-ngata
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/12447/type/college/bj-raji
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14939/type/college/dontari-poe

Well in true Sheepstud fashion I'll use stats to make an argument and call his bluff. That determines how good a player really is the numbers don't lie. Now all these are similar but one is clearly less than the other 3. 3 of the 4 show a dominant season however one does not. All the players bad years are similar except one of the guys best season is on par with the average season of the others. Numbers don't lie.
He'll just change the subject. Sheepstud can't argue with anyone. He just gets owned and changes the subject.

Captain 'Dre
08-10-2012, 07:45 PM
NT's take time. Look at the past 1st round NT's. They didn't start a lot of games or have big stats in their rookie seasons either.

Like Ngata and Raji?

It's never a good sign when a top-half-of-the-first-round pick flat out SUCKS in his first camp.

It's not a guarantee of bust-dom, but it's not like it forecasts greatness, either. Hilarious!

KCStud
08-10-2012, 07:48 PM
Like Ngata and Raji?

It's never a good sign when a top-half-of-the-first-round pick flat out SUCKS in his first camp.

It's not a guarantee of bust-dom, but it's not like it forecasts greatness, either. Hilarious!

Raji started 1 game and struggled to stop the run his first year. Thanks for proving my point.

Captain 'Dre
08-10-2012, 07:51 PM
That's in a 4-3. A NT is supposed to be at least 320 lbs.

Yes or No.

You are happy with the Chiefs' selection of Dontari Poe.

Captain 'Dre
08-10-2012, 09:53 PM
Raji started 1 game and struggled to stop the run his first year. Thanks for proving my point.

The only point of yours I proved is that you're a moron! Ha!

Did Raji spend his first training camp languishing behind an undrafted free agent?

How many games does Poe figure to start this year?

Just because it's common for it to take 2-3 seasons for a NT "come of age" in the NFL, that doesn't mean a NT who sucks in the early going of his NFL career in on target to become good!

Captain 'Dre
08-10-2012, 09:56 PM
Yes or No.

You are happy with the Chiefs' selection of Dontari Poe.

It's a simple question. Even YOU should be able come up with an answer KCSpud... although you might have to resort to "eenie meanie mynie moe" to do it.

KCStud
09-15-2013, 03:51 PM
What say you...sheep stud?

Don't need to say anything. He's looking like an elite NT.

Also quite funny to see how wrong everyone is in this thread.

Bacchus
09-15-2013, 07:25 PM
Also quite funny to see how wrong everyone is in this thread.

I am not wrong I always knew you were a douche.