"You didn't build it" part II

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

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[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Your first attempt to take a statement out of context failed, so now you're trying the same thing again?

The definition of insanity... :crazy:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

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[barryr]

In the liberal world, roads and airports were built before the car and the airplane.

[Rohirrim]

For a corporatist like Mitt, the difference between a lie and the truth is meaningless. The only thing that matters is will it help you achieve your goal? All that matters is the win. Character is determined by the number in your offshore bank account.

[peacepipe]

For a corporatist like Mitt, the difference between a lie and the truth is meaningless. The only thing that matters is will it help you achieve your goal? All that matters is the win. Character is determined by the number in your offshore bank account.
don't forget hobo,lonestar,cut,ant, & the rest of the teabagger posse.

[barryr]

don't forget hobo,lonestar,cut,ant, & the rest of the teabagger posse.

But liberals just want discussion and debate LOL

[peacepipe]

But liberals just want discussion and debate LOL

is this all you got. let's not forget you guys used the name first, not us.

[spdirty]

Whats funny is watching you guys circle the wagons for your team leader. Act all upset cuz "Well Romney said this and Romney said that, and this isn't really what he meant" and blah blah blah blah blah. You still don't understand that the key to elections is

1. How well you define your opponent
2. Presenting yourself as a suitable alternative.

If your opponent screws up with a stupid soundbite you pounce on it. You paint them as that person and you win.

Need proof?

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Those are the defining moments of past elections.

Clinton didn't need a moment because he had Ross Perot in his back pocket. But this soundbite could be huge for Romney, I hope it is anyway. Or that obama provides him with several more big gaffes.

[peacepipe]

Whats funny is watching you guys circle the wagons for your team leader. Act all upset cuz "Well Romney said this and Romney said that, and this isn't really what he meant" and blah blah blah blah blah. You still don't understand that the key to elections is

1. How well you define your opponent
2. Presenting yourself as a suitable alternative.

If your opponent screws up with a stupid soundbite you pounce on it. You paint them as that person and you win.

Need proof?

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Those are the defining moments of past elections.

Clinton didn't need a moment because he had Ross Perot in his back pocket. But this soundbite could be huge for Romney, I hope it is anyway. Or that obama provides him with several more big gaffes.
it's exactly what Obama is doing to willard now. except willard is so gaffe prone,obama doesn't need to edit any tapes.

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

Whats funny is watching you guys circle the wagons for your team leader. Act all upset cuz "Well Romney said this and Romney said that, and this isn't really what he meant" and blah blah blah blah blah. You still don't understand that the key to elections is

1. How well you define your opponent
2. Presenting yourself as a suitable alternative.

If your opponent screws up with a stupid soundbite you pounce on it. You paint them as that person and you win.

Need proof?

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Those are the defining moments of past elections.

Clinton didn't need a moment because he had Ross Perot in his back pocket. But this soundbite could be huge for Romney, I hope it is anyway. Or that obama provides him with several more big gaffes.

Great finds! LOL Here's the thing they're the observational over look the facts. If while them actually clicked the ad it puts the whole thing in "context". The prez was talking about how business "didn't build" the roads and highways. The thing is the prez doesn't understand is that business we build those roads and highways. It was built on their tax dollars. Lets not forget that the top 1% contributes nearly 40% of taxes collected in the US.

[Fedaykin]

When your campaign hopes rest on quote mining your opponent (not even a real gaff), you know you're screwed.

Stick a fork in him, Romney is done.

[cutthemdown]

LOL at the left we knew what Obama meant! We knew he meant that without govt help using tax payer money no person would have the opporunity to build a biz and be a success. We still think that is BS because we have been paying tax this whole time. Obama acts like no one pays any tax.

[Fedaykin]

LOL at the left we knew what Obama meant! We knew he meant that without govt help using tax payer money no person would have the opporunity to build a biz and be a success. We still think that is BS because we have been paying tax this whole time.

Tell that to all the pundits that are framing it as if he'd said government did it all.

YOU may have understood it, but that's doesn't mean that the right wing media and the Romney campaign itself isn't still pushing a misrepresentation.

Obama acts like no one pays any tax.

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[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

When your campaign hopes rest on quote mining your opponent (not even a real gaff), you know you're screwed.

Stick a fork in him, Romney is done.

No big deal...........if you're a Marxist. Mask is off on this one. Big question where has any of your ideas ever worked.

[Fedaykin]

No big deal...........if you're a Marxist. Mask is off on this one. Big question where has any of your ideas ever worked.

Cutt: See?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You still don't understand that the key to elections is

1. How well you define your opponent
2. Presenting yourself as a suitable alternative.

If your opponent screws up with a stupid soundbite you pounce on it. You paint them as that person and you win.



In that case, you guys are truly f_cked. Ha!

[peacepipe]

Whats funny is watching you guys circle the wagons for your team leader. Act all upset cuz "Well Romney said this and Romney said that, and this isn't really what he meant" and blah blah blah blah blah. You still don't understand that the key to elections is

1. How well you define your opponent
2. Presenting yourself as a suitable alternative.

If your opponent screws up with a stupid soundbite you pounce on it. You paint them as that person and you win.

Need proof?

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Those are the defining moments of past elections.

Clinton didn't need a moment because he had Ross Perot in his back pocket. But this soundbite could be huge for Romney, I hope it is anyway. Or that obama provides him with several more big gaffes.LOL what planet do you live on?! you do know that willard is getting hammered & defined by obama as we speak. willard has been commiting gaffes as if he's getting paid for it.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Wonder what Freud would have to say about UltimateSpammer starting two threads on exactly the same topic?

Or HoHo's use of huge/bold font, etc?

That he's compensating for something?

:D

[lonestar]

In the liberal world, roads and airports were built before the car and the airplane.

Most folks do not realize the Airports in major cities pay their own way in fact most cities take money out of the airports annual funds to help with their budgets..

SO they can stick the airport crap up their liberals ass ..

BTW about $.40 a gallon of gas goes to the state road funds.. It is more in some states, IIRC close to 70 cents in Califorinicate..


Same as above..

[lonestar]

But liberals just want discussion and debate LOL

for them it is to easy to call names than actually debate..

when in doubt call folks names .

[spdirty]

Great finds! LOL Here's the thing they're the observational over look the facts. If while them actually clicked the ad it puts the whole thing in "context". The prez was talking about how business "didn't build" the roads and highways. The thing is the prez doesn't understand is that business we build those roads and highways. It was built on their tax dollars. Lets not forget that the top 1% contributes nearly 40% of taxes collected in the US.

Yeah. And on top of that, government workers don't build roads and bridges. Its the private contractor/business that builds them, and the taxpayer pays for it. And the government is the pain in the ass in the middle.

Think government workers could do the bridge at Alameda and I-25? Hell no, thats Jalisco. Or at Santa Fe? Or that nice bridge at Arapahoe Road and Parker Road? No, that's Hamon contractors. Yeah they inspect it but half of those inspectors don't know their asses from a hole in the ground. And you let government workers try to pave or patch a road, shlt. Get ready for a bumpy ride. Then there are the signs. Shlt. I could do more and do it better working by myself out of my little Ranger than CDOT Maintenace. It takes CDOT Maintenace 5 workers and 3 trucks with state of the art equipment to put up a sign and it still won't meet specs. It'll either be not level or won't meet the height requirements or it won't be straight.

So I don't like government taking credit for the roads and bridges. They can spend all the money they want on it, and I won't utter a word of protest. But they shouldn't act like they built it. They can say that taxes paid for it and they inspected the work but thats it.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

In the liberal world, roads and airports were built before the car and the airplane.

Whereas, in the conservative world, no one seems to know where roads, airports, bridges, Interstate highways, and other infrastructure came from...

They must have just appeared out of thin air one day!

Oh, who really cares?

Let's give Saint Ron credit.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

for them it is to easy to call names than actually debate..

when in doubt call folks names .

Because you're SO above anything like that. Ha!

[spdirty]

LOL what planet do you live on?! you do know that willard is getting hammered & defined by obama as we speak. willard has been commiting gaffes as if he's getting paid for it.
Iit isn't about how many gaffes you commit dumbass. Every politician sticks their foot in their mouth. Its what is the big gaffe, or that big moment, or that big ad that wins an election. In '08 Biden and Obama were a gaffe a minute, but it was the Palin gaffes that everyone paid attention to. It was linking McCain to Bush that worked, and McCain refused to even try to link Obama to Ayers or Wright. The only thing McCain did was when the Joe the Plumber soundbite fell into his lap, he ran with it. And even though it helped it wasn't nearly enough.

Bush was committing Harry Caray all the time in '04, yet it was the big Kerry gaffe that worked. Along with the swiftboat ads. Doesn't matter what kind of little screw ups Romney commits, if he continues to show the voter that Obama loathes business and uses Obama's record against him then Romney has a good shot.

[spdirty]

Whereas, in the conservative world, no one seems to know where roads, airports, bridges, Interstate highways, and other infrastructure came from...

They must have just appeared out of thin air one day!

Oh, who really cares?

Let's give Saint Ron credit.

Well, you people from LA must think your roads, bridges, and Interstate Highways are gonna come out of thin air. When I was out there a month ago I was absolutely amazed at the condition of your roads and signs. Not a single highway sign I saw appeared less than 20 years old. While Colorado is in the process of replacing every overhead sign that needs lights with new signs that have this super reflective sheeting that won't need any lights, therefore eliminating electricity costs, half of your city's overhead signs don't even have lights that work. And they are so old they don't reflect jack shlt.

And the roads were all jacked up. Instead of guardrail you guys use surface mounted delineators. Just letting letting your highways go to hell.

Shlt it looks like the last time you guys even put up a new sign on your highways was when Reagan was your governor.

[peacepipe]

Iit isn't about how many gaffes you commit dumbass. Every politician sticks their foot in their mouth. Its what is the big gaffe, or that big moment, or that big ad that wins an election. In '08 Biden and Obama were a gaffe a minute, but it was the Palin gaffes that everyone paid attention to. It was linking McCain to Bush that worked, and McCain refused to even try to link Obama to Ayers or Wright. The only thing McCain did was when the Joe the Plumber soundbite fell into his lap, he ran with it. And even though it helped it wasn't nearly enough.

Bush was committing Harry Caray all the time in '04, yet it was the big Kerry gaffe that worked. Along with the swiftboat ads. Doesn't matter what kind of little screw ups Romney commits, if he continues to show the voter that Obama loathes business and uses Obama's record against him then Romney has a good shot. with as many gaffes as romney is putting out there,this past gaffe in england was a BIG ONE, he'll eventually hit the big gaffe. Also,have you ever heard the phrase death by a thousand cuts? well each gaffe may not be big unto itself but they add up. they are adding up pretty quickly for willard. If you're going to use '04 as an example,then you are going to have to admit that willard is this yrs kerry.

the McCain/palin ticket spent almost there entire campaign pushing the ayers/wright connection. practicly every other word out of palins mouth was ayers & obama is paling around with terrorist.

it's going to take more than hope that people hate obama enough to vote for willard, for willard to win. kerry had that same hope & it didn't work.
right now obama is turning willards bussiness experience into a weakness for him. unfortunately bain being his only platform,it wouldn't surprise to see willards campaign collapse.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Well, you people from LA must think your roads, bridges, and Interstate Highways are gonna come out of thin air. When I was out there a month ago I was absolutely amazed at the condition of your roads and signs. Not a single highway sign I saw appeared less than 20 years old. While Colorado is in the process of replacing every overhead sign that needs lights with new signs that have this super reflective sheeting that won't need any lights, therefore eliminating electricity costs, half of your city's overhead signs don't even have lights that work. And they are so old they don't reflect jack shlt.

And the roads were all jacked up. Instead of guardrail you guys use surface mounted delineators. Just letting letting your highways go to hell.

Shlt it looks like the last time you guys even put up a new sign on your highways was when Reagan was your governor.

Hilarious!

You must have visited some other L.A., i.e., one that exists in some parallel universe, because none of this crap is true.

[spdirty]

Hilarious!

You must have visited some other L.A., i.e., one that exists in some parallel universe, because none of this crap is true.

Bullshlt. Whatever the Interstate is going from Vegas to Disneyland, then we went from basically Disneyland to Knotts Berry Farm and back, then to Universal and to Newport Beach. Every highway sign I saw looked at least 20 years old. Looks like you guys haven't maintained your highways in 10 years. I'd be embarrassed by my roads, bridges, and signs if i were living in LA. I wouldn't make that shlt up if i didn't see it myself.

You want to know what some roads, bridges, and signs should look like come to Denver. Work was done not by the government, but by Jalisco, Hamon Contractors, Aggregate Industries, Asphalt Specialties, Brannan Sand and Gravel, etc. All private businesses that do it to make a profit.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bullshlt. Whatever the Interstate is going from Vegas to Disneyland, then we went from basically Disneyland to Knotts Berry Farm and back, then to Universal and to Newport Beach. Every highway sign I saw looked at least 20 years old. Looks like you guys haven't maintained your highways in 10 years. I'd be embarrassed by my roads, bridges, and signs if i were living in LA. I wouldn't make that shlt up if i didn't see it myself.



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Thanks for taking the cake of asinine right-wing (but I repeat myself) spooge o-the-day.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Bullshlt. Whatever the Interstate is going from Vegas to Disneyland, then we went from basically Disneyland to Knotts Berry Farm and back, then to Universal and to Newport Beach. Every highway sign I saw looked at least 20 years old. Looks like you guys haven't maintained your highways in 10 years. I'd be embarrassed by my roads, bridges, and signs if i were living in LA. I wouldn't make that shlt up if i didn't see it myself.


L0L! ROFL!

You don't even know the name of the Interstate you claim to have examined so closely?

FYI, it's I-15.

And it doesn't go from "Vegas to Disneyland" - it continues south through Riverside County (not L.A.) and to San Diego.

Also, Newport Beach is one of the most affluent cities in America, so your claims about that area are just laughable. Ha!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

You want to know what some roads, bridges, and signs should look like come to Denver. .

Haven't been there for a while, so I guess I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Last time I was in Denver (2004?) the roads were atrocious - pothole capital of the USA.

[spdirty]

L0L! ROFL!

You don't even know the name of the Interstate you claim to have examined so closely?

FYI, it's I-15.

And it doesn't go from "Vegas to Disneyland" - it continues south through Riverside County (not L.A.) and to San Diego.

Also, Newport Beach is one of the most affluent cities in America, so your claims about that area are just laughable. Ha!

I'm not talking about the roads. I'm talking about the highways. Roads are maintained by the towns, and every time we were off the interstate they were fine. But you get onto the interstate, they are completely ****ed. Concrete barriers falling apart, potholes everywhere, and those signs. Man. Faded out garbage.

[Rigs11]

Well, you people from LA must think your roads, bridges, and Interstate Highways are gonna come out of thin air. When I was out there a month ago I was absolutely amazed at the condition of your roads and signs. Not a single highway sign I saw appeared less than 20 years old. While Colorado is in the process of replacing every overhead sign that needs lights with new signs that have this super reflective sheeting that won't need any lights, therefore eliminating electricity costs, half of your city's overhead signs don't even have lights that work. And they are so old they don't reflect jack shlt.

And the roads were all jacked up. Instead of guardrail you guys use surface mounted delineators. Just letting letting your highways go to hell.

Shlt it looks like the last time you guys even put up a new sign on your highways was when Reagan was your governor.


Colorado is in the process of repairing roads which is being paid for by that evils stimulus that you righties hate so much

[spdirty]

Haven't been there for a while, so I guess I'll have to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Last time I was in Denver (2004?) the roads were atrocious - pothole capital of the USA.

I'm a sign guy. I take down and put up signs. So I'm weird about that. Whenever I'm in another state I look at what kind of posts and signs that state uses, blah blah blah, its just something weird I do when on the road.

Colorado has basically decided to redo almost all of the major highways and interstates in and around Denver. I-25 has gotten, and is in the process of a major makeover right now. I-270 is replacing all of their overhead signs (we got that job!Booya!.) I-70 out East just got done with a major project. I-225 is almost done with a major project. Highway 36 (the highway that connects Denver to Boulder) is about to undergo a major project.

There really is no comparison between Denver's highways and bridges and LA's. Whatever that highway is, 15 you said. It's a disgrace man. You can't honestly defend that.

[spdirty]

Colorado is in the process of repairing roads which is being paid for by that evils stimulus that you righties hate so much

My company has done a couple stimulus jobs. They are the biggest pain in the ass, biggest paperwork nightmare. It almost isn't worth it to do. Just to work on one of those we had to come up with a safety plan, a method statement, geez had to do a step by step plan on how we were going to install a friggin sign, a drug and alcohol policy, had to tell them how many people you were going to hire specifically for that job, had to add a million dollars to our general liability, etc etc etc. We're just a 2 man operation. So it was pretty retarded having to come up with all these new bullshlt company policies.

But like I said, I never have, and never will complain when money gets spent on roads, highways, and bridges. Even when our competition gets those big projects at least it keeps them busy while we go after the smaller, better work.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I'm not talking about the roads. I'm talking about the highways. Roads are maintained by the towns, and every time we were off the interstate they were fine. But you get onto the interstate, they are completely ****ed. Concrete barriers falling apart, potholes everywhere, and those signs. Man. Faded out garbage.

Yeah, I know you were talking about the highways - that's why I had to laugh.

Why?

Because (a) you didn't even know the name of the highway you were talking about, (b) incorrectly identified the route, and (c) your account of the condition of I-15 is totally fictitious, (or extremely selective at best) as anyone who lives in SoCal will tell you.

[spdirty]

Yeah, I know you were talking about the highways - that's why I had to laugh.

Why?

Because (a) you didn't even know the name of the highway you were talking about, (b) incorrectly identified the route, and

I don't go out there more than once every 10 years so, OK, whatever. Laugh all you want because i don't know or care to know the names of your highways.

(c) your account of the condition of I-15 is totally fictitious, (or extremely selective at best) as anyone who lives in SoCal will tell you.

Oh really. I wouldn't even have brought it up if I wasn't amazed at the condition of your states highways. Why in the hell would I bring it up? Score political points? It was an observation of your highways. If you disagree then maybe you've gotten use to driving or riding around on shlt roads and it works for you. You need to get out more if you believe my observation of the condition of your City's highways are fiction.

[gyldenlove]

In the liberal world, roads and airports were built before the car and the airplane.

Interestingly that was also the case in the real world. Roads have existed for almost 5000 years, the car for less than 150. Air fields existed for hot air balloons and air ships in Europe more than 250 years ago, Wilbur and Dilbur didn't fly until 1903.

[lonestar]

Bullshlt. Whatever the Interstate is going from Vegas to Disneyland, then we went from basically Disneyland to Knotts Berry Farm and back, then to Universal and to Newport Beach. Every highway sign I saw looked at least 20 years old. Looks like you guys haven't maintained your highways in 10 years. I'd be embarrassed by my roads, bridges, and signs if i were living in LA. I wouldn't make that shlt up if i didn't see it myself.

You want to know what some roads, bridges, and signs should look like come to Denver. Work was done not by the government, but by Jalisco, Hamon Contractors, Aggregate Industries, Asphalt Specialties, Brannan Sand and Gravel, etc. All private businesses that do it to make a profit.

I miss those days in DEN when I saw a sign that said "Smooth you bet Brannan did it"..

Most of the road work here SUCKS mainly because they do not lay downa decent base.. lately they burn/melt the top layer off the existing road to get rid of the groves in it and then use the same asphalt they took off after reheating it and then repave with it..

and our roads are better than most of the ones I just drove on in LA..

BTW what is the real gas tax totals in californicate ( I heard it was close to 70 cents PER Gallon.).. that money is supposed to be dedicated to maintaining roads, bridges and signage....

[Fedaykin]

Interestingly that was also the case in the real world. Roads have existed for almost 5000 years, the car for less than 150. Air fields existed for hot air balloons and air ships in Europe more than 250 years ago, Wilbur and Dilbur didn't fly until 1903.

That's only because reality has a damned liberal bias.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

I don't go out there more than once every 10 years so, OK, whatever. Laugh all you want because i don't know or care to know the names of your highways.

I just thought it was funny that you claimed to have noticed so many things about the highway but couldn't even remember which highway it was you were on.

Your statement about the highway (I-15) going from "Vegas to Disneyland" further impugned your credibility on the matter.



Oh really. I wouldn't even have brought it up if I wasn't amazed at the condition of your states highways. Why in the hell would I bring it up? Score political points?

That wouldn't surprise me one bit.

[barryr]

Interestingly that was also the case in the real world. Roads have existed for almost 5000 years, the car for less than 150. Air fields existed for hot air balloons and air ships in Europe more than 250 years ago, Wilbur and Dilbur didn't fly until 1903.

So they built roads in the U.S. 5,000 years ago? When did Europe get into this conversation? Europe hasn't had its economy on track for over a decade, like I care what they do, much less would want to copy their mess.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

They just don't like Mitt Romney (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/25/1113557/-They-just-don-t-like-Mitt-Romney)

It's hard to overestimate just how unpopular (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/24/12933159-nbcwsj-poll-negative-campaign-takes-toll-on-candidates-obama-up-six-points) Mitt Romney is.

Romney’s overall favorable/unfavorable score remains a net negative – a trait no other modern presumptive GOP presidential nominee (whether Bob Dole, George W. Bush or John McCain) has shared. Romney is at favorable 35, unfavorable 40. Neither Bob Dole nor John McCain were beloved, and of course Bush had pretty crappy numbers in 2004 (which is why John Kerry led (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/24/1113244/-Battleground-polling-snapshot-Romney-still-can-t-break-out-of-low-40s) him through the summer as voters flirted with the alternative). But the fact is that none of those three candidates were ever anywhere near as unliked as Romney. Amazing.

Of course, neither Dole, nor McCain, nor Bush mocked voters for their choice of rain gear, or insulted their cookies, or bragged about all the sports owners they hung out with. In other words, they knew how to be human. In politics, that's a helpful trait.

Now NBC is very specific that this was the first modern Republican candidate in their polling to have a net-negative favorability rating. So that suggests a Democrat has been there before, I'd guess Walter Mondale and probably Jimmy Carter. I decided to look up John Kerry's numbers, since I assumed he would've also been underwater.

It turns out that Kerry, according to NBC polling, never had a net-negative favorability rating. At this point eight years ago, he was 42/35. Even after his September 2004 Swiftboating, he stayed above water 43/42, and was 44/43 right before the election.
For all the comparisons with 2004, that's one big difference—Kerry was far better liked than Mitt Romney. And Kerry wasn't exactly beloved.

Republicans are putting together quite the ticket—the least beloved Republican ever, alongside the most boring white guy they can find.

Can you feel the excitement?

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

They just don't like Mitt Romney (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/25/1113557/-They-just-don-t-like-Mitt-Romney)

It's hard to overestimate just how unpopular (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/24/12933159-nbcwsj-poll-negative-campaign-takes-toll-on-candidates-obama-up-six-points) Mitt Romney is.

Romney’s overall favorable/unfavorable score remains a net negative – a trait no other modern presumptive GOP presidential nominee (whether Bob Dole, George W. Bush or John McCain) has shared. Romney is at favorable 35, unfavorable 40. Neither Bob Dole nor John McCain were beloved, and of course Bush had pretty crappy numbers in 2004 (which is why John Kerry led (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/24/1113244/-Battleground-polling-snapshot-Romney-still-can-t-break-out-of-low-40s) him through the summer as voters flirted with the alternative). But the fact is that none of those three candidates were ever anywhere near as unliked as Romney. Amazing.

Of course, neither Dole, nor McCain, nor Bush mocked voters for their choice of rain gear, or insulted their cookies, or bragged about all the sports owners they hung out with. In other words, they knew how to be human. In politics, that's a helpful trait.

Now NBC is very specific that this was the first modern Republican candidate in their polling to have a net-negative favorability rating. So that suggests a Democrat has been there before, I'd guess Walter Mondale and probably Jimmy Carter. I decided to look up John Kerry's numbers, since I assumed he would've also been underwater.

It turns out that Kerry, according to NBC polling, never had a net-negative favorability rating. At this point eight years ago, he was 42/35. Even after his September 2004 Swiftboating, he stayed above water 43/42, and was 44/43 right before the election.
For all the comparisons with 2004, that's one big difference—Kerry was far better liked than Mitt Romney. And Kerry wasn't exactly beloved.

Republicans are putting together quite the ticket—the least beloved Republican ever, alongside the most boring white guy they can find.

Can you feel the excitement?

OMG! He's quoting the KOS. LOL LOL LOL

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

OMG! He's quoting the KOS. LOL LOL LOL

So you're not going to deny anything it says about Dog On Roof?

Color me shocked. :D

[UltimateHoboW/Shotgun]

So you're not going to deny anything it says about Dog On Roof?

Color me shocked. :D

Yeah, because theKOS is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo objective. LOL LOL LOL Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious! But good times :sunshine::yayaya:^5

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Yeah, because theKOS is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo objective. LOL LOL LOL Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious! But good times :sunshine::yayaya:^5

That's what I thought.

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[peacepipe]

Yeah, because theKOS is sooooooooooooooooooooooooo objective. LOL LOL LOL Hilarious!Hilarious!Hilarious! But good times :sunshine::yayaya:^5this coming from someone who uses WND & brietbart as a source. you don't have any credibility to critisize sources.

[barryr]

this coming from someone who uses WND & brietbart as a source. you don't have any credibility to critisize sources.

Neither do any of you liberals despite your idiot belief that only you can be objective.

[peacepipe]

Neither do any of you liberals despite your idiot belief that only you can be objective.

I know cut & some other conservatives can be objective,very objective in fact. you & hobo on the otherhand wouldn't know objective, even if it slapped you in the face.

[Cito Pelon]

My company has done a couple stimulus jobs. They are the biggest pain in the ass, biggest paperwork nightmare. It almost isn't worth it to do. Just to work on one of those we had to come up with a safety plan, a method statement, geez had to do a step by step plan on how we were going to install a friggin sign, a drug and alcohol policy, had to tell them how many people you were going to hire specifically for that job, had to add a million dollars to our general liability, etc etc etc. We're just a 2 man operation. So it was pretty retarded having to come up with all these new bullshlt company policies.

But like I said, I never have, and never will complain when money gets spent on roads, highways, and bridges. Even when our competition gets those big projects at least it keeps them busy while we go after the smaller, better work.

Yeah, there's a lot of bureaucrats in government, each of them trying to make their role justified.

Smaller govt is fine with me, the hard part is getting it done with an entrenched bureaucracy. I see the right wing point of view, but past regimes haven't done jack to correct govt growth.

Beltway politicians are the same in both parties, they build their turf the same. What we really need is bi-partisan leadership that is willing to sacrifice some of their own turf in return for sacrifices on the other side.

Boehner and Obama gave it a good try last year, but no, compromise was a dirty word.

[barryr]

I know cut & some other conservatives can be objective,very objective in fact. you & hobo on the otherhand wouldn't know objective, even if it slapped you in the face.

But you're so objective LOL I really couldn't care less since I don't pretend to be objective like people(liberals) do. I think liberals are idiots and I think I have made that quite clear. Hard to find a liberal with any objectivity, especially around here. Oddly, liberals around here like to distance themselves from that label by calling themselves other things, but they bitch and whine about my comments about liberals. So if not a liberal, you'd have no problem with any of it. I'm not say a Scientologist, so people can say what they want about them for all I care. I know, too much logic for your typical liberal.

[peacepipe]

But you're so objective LOL I really couldn't care less since I don't pretend to be objective like people(liberals) do. I think liberals are idiots and I think I have made that quite clear. Hard to find a liberal with any objectivity, especially around here. Oddly, liberals around here like to distance themselves from that label by calling themselves other things, but they b**** and whine about my comments about liberals. So if not a liberal, you'd have no problem with any of it. I'm not say a Scientologist, so people can say what they want about them for all I care. I know, too much logic for your typical liberal.

you speak as if what you say means anything. :Whaaaa!: you think too highly of yourself. :Whaaaa!:,you think us liberals are idiots. LOL

[lonestar]

you speak as if what you say means anything. :Whaaaa!: you think too highly of yourself. :Whaaaa!:,you think us liberals are idiots. LOL

FWIW we know you are..

[peacepipe]

FWIW we know you are..




:Whaaaa!::Whaaaa!::Whaaaa!:

[lonestar]

you speak as if what you say means anything. :Whaaaa!: you think too highly of yourself. :Whaaaa!:,you think us liberals are idiots. LOL

FWIW we know you are..

the way I see it is anyone that has to have more than :yayaya: in their brief post is missing something topside.. Anyone that uses cartoons also has something loose up there also..

especially in a political area..

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

FWIW we know you are..

the way I see it is anyone that has to have more than :yayaya: in their brief post is missing something topside.. Anyone that uses cartoons also has something loose up there also..


Awwww!

Are those mean ol' comics making fun of you again?

Someone should tell them it's not nice to make fun of the mentally challenged.

...especially in a political area..

Actually, political satire is a tradition as old as America, but I wouldn't expect you to know this inasmuch as you can't even get the past 30 years straight - let alone the past 236.

Ha!