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nyuk nyuk
07-19-2012, 03:43 PM
Human Rights: The Useless Fiction (http://takimag.com/article/human_rights_the_useless_fiction_paul_gottfried)

by Paul Gottfried

April 27, 2012

I watched a Pennsylvania GOP gubernatorial candidate bring an evangelical crowd to their feet three years ago by announcing that “Owning a gun is a human right.” I mumbled to myself: “So is protection from body odor.”

It’s not that I’m against people owning guns, but there are multiple reasons to defend such practices without invoking phantom “rights.” It is possible to defend broad gun ownership on practical grounds as something that reduces the likelihood that the carrier will be hurt in a violent assault. I could easily construct a defense of gun ownership without once mentioning the concoction of “human rights.”

Human rights is an invention of loudmouthed journalists, political theorists looking for trips to the UN, and celebrities who are pushing pet causes.

Times change, and so does the catalogue of human rights designed to justify the prevalent political and cultural attitudes. It is impossible to separate the idea of human rights from the political agendas of those wielding this rhetorical weapon.

Concepts of human rights usually reflect the biases of the age. These rights are also replaceable. It is naïve to think those “rights to life and liberty” in the Declaration of Independence as understood by Thomas Jefferson are the only rights around which our political lives have been made to center. Terms such as “liberty” and “the pursuit of happiness” have now been given meanings beyond anything that Jefferson—or the person from whom he cribbed the passage, John Locke—could have intended.

“Human rights” now encompass things such as wealth redistribution, protecting transsexuals from hostile glares, and banning all Confederate symbols—which a black student once complained violated her human rights when she espied a Civil War history book on my office shelf.

As a young man, I was told that the right to debate issues is a civilized society’s distinguishing mark. Open debate was often depicted in the 1950s and 1960s as a “human right.” Now it has been eclipsed here and in Europe by the even loftier human right of being sensitive to whatever group the government and media want us to treat with special sensitivity.

The cult of human rights has also become an obvious successor religion to Christianity. It selectively incorporates Christian notions of universality and the sacredness of the person, but without Christian theology. Why should we think this successor religion, like its cousin multiculturalism, will have currency outside of the progressive remains of what were once Christian societies? Although African tribalists or Chinese nationalists may talk our talk, it is doubtful that our rhetorical tics will influence them very deeply.

In the late 1990s, an attempt by the French right to condemn Hitler and Stalin’s human-rights violations in one sweeping statement brought forth a nasty rebuke from the French prime minister and was widely attacked in the French press. It seemed “outrageous” to liken acts that “flowed from a humanistic intention” to those of a “racist doctrine that relegates most of humanity to the shadows.” Presumably communist murders were less blameworthy than Nazi or right-wing ones because leftists defined “human rights” differently.

John McCain and other Fox News heroes go into a tirade every time Democratic Party leaders meet with the Chinese and fail to press them on “human rights.” Presumably we should be pummeling the Chinese with accusations about human-rights violations in between begging them to buy our devalued dollars. We’re also supposed to beat up on Putin for abusing the “human rights” advocates whom the National Endowment for Democracy finance in order to subvert the Russian government. If a foreign government tried such stuff with us, the feds would have the agents arrested and detained.

So which is it? Are we the supreme violators or the privileged upholders of human rights? One’s answer may depend on how long someone has listened to either Fox or MSNBC.

The best argument for ditching human-rights talk is that it stands in the way of saying something serious about one’s moral positions. The term “human rights” usually denotes something that one wants to impose or legislate universally. But why not frame these things as one’s personal beliefs rather than universal human rights? Isn’t it possible to address issues without spraying the listener with pious smarm?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
07-19-2012, 03:54 PM
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I'll bet you're just itching to replace "human" with "civil" in the title of the next installment.

mhgaffney
07-19-2012, 05:58 PM
yuk yuk obviously never suffered under a repressive regime.

nyuk nyuk
07-19-2012, 06:18 PM
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I'll bet you're just itching to replace "human" with "civil" in the title of the next installment.

You obviously did not read the article.

nyuk nyuk
07-19-2012, 06:18 PM
yuk yuk obviously never suffered under a repressive regime.

You missed the point of the article, clearly.

I was born in America, but my mother's family fled the Red Army, so I know a tad about repressive regimes.

Requiem
07-20-2012, 06:32 AM
Gaff's point is that you never suffered under one. Obviously not.

orinjkrush
07-20-2012, 07:32 AM
interesting perspective. thanks for posting.

Garcia Bronco
07-20-2012, 07:59 AM
Certainly something to think about.

Rohirrim
07-20-2012, 08:06 AM
Simplistic. At best.

Garcia Bronco
07-20-2012, 08:09 AM
Most things are simple around human behavior.

Rohirrim
07-20-2012, 08:11 AM
Most things are simple around human behavior.

Human beings are the most complex animals on this planet.

Garcia Bronco
07-20-2012, 08:59 AM
Human beings are the most complex animals on this planet.

Not really from a 10,000 foot view.

Rohirrim
07-20-2012, 09:35 AM
My philosophy has changed. I don't agree with the founders' premise that we are guaranteed rights because our creator gave them to us. We have rights because our own consciousness demands it. It is our choice to impose our principles, and our order, on the chaos of this universe, and on nature. We live free because we choose to live free.

For millennia we have staunchly believed that order exists in the universe because it is a reflection of the creator. But of course, that "order" is a delusion. At every level of nature there is disorder and chaos, from the macro to the micro. Recently, astronomers discovered that another spiral galaxy is currently crashing into ours. Do you think the inhabitants of the planets in that region are extolling the perfection and order of the cosmos? I doubt it. As well, recently a woman got a scratch while swimming. This unleashed on her a flesh eating bacteria that consumed her limbs. Order? Perfection?

No. Principles exist because we choose to live by them. It's a conscious choice that must be made every day by individuals. Our societies reflect who we are, and the choices we make. We are responsible.

barryr
07-20-2012, 12:01 PM
When I see women getting raped and killed in countries and our women leaders going to those countries afraid to say anything about it and even wearing the repressive garb that forces women to admit inferiority, then I know human rights is a bunch of BS.

When I see terrorists lobbing bombs into Israel and killing children, and when Israel hits back, where terrorists are hiding, which is usually cowardly in women and children's homes so they can claim Israel just lobbed bombs and killed for no reason and the human rights activists buying it every time, I know human rights is BS.

When I see so many people worried about criminals and keeping them alive in jails no matter how sick and gruesome their crimes are, while those same people turn a blind'e eye to the same protection of innocent babies being aborted. then human rights is BS.

When I see the bumbling fools of Hollywood claim guns are bad, then either own them themselves or have guards with guns, then human rights is BS.

This is all about politics, like everything is, where certain people want the power to tell everyone else what to do, where to go, what to say, what to wear, what you can say, etc.

And the ironic thing is those same people will largely be atheists who don't believe there is a God, yet are wanting to play the role of one, so they must feel there needs or is supposed to be one.

Rohirrim
07-20-2012, 12:14 PM
When I see women getting raped and killed in countries and our women leaders going to those countries afraid to say anything about it and even wearing the repressive garb that forces women to admit inferiority, then I know human rights is a bunch of BS.

When I see terrorists lobbing bombs into Israel and killing children, and when Israel hits back, where terrorists are hiding, which is usually cowardly in women and children's homes so they can claim Israel just lobbed bombs and killed for no reason and the human rights activists buying it every time, I know human rights is BS.

When I see so many people worried about criminals and keeping them alive in jails no matter how sick and gruesome their crimes are, while those same people turn a blind'e eye to the same protection of innocent babies being aborted. then human rights is BS.

When I see the bumbling fools of Hollywood claim guns are bad, then either own them themselves or have guards with guns, then human rights is BS.

This is all about politics, like everything is, where certain people want the power to tell everyone else what to do, where to go, what to say, what to wear, what you can say, etc.

And the ironic thing is those same people will largely be atheists who don't believe there is a God, yet are wanting to play the role of one, so they must feel there needs or is supposed to be one.

I think your entire philosophy can be boiled down into something that roughly approximates the Hatfields and the McCoys. ;D

mhgaffney
07-20-2012, 05:31 PM
When I see women getting raped and killed in countries and our women leaders going to those countries afraid to say anything about it and even wearing the repressive garb that forces women to admit inferiority, then I know human rights is a bunch of BS.

When I see terrorists lobbing bombs into Israel and killing children, and when Israel hits back, where terrorists are hiding, which is usually cowardly in women and children's homes so they can claim Israel just lobbed bombs and killed for no reason and the human rights activists buying it every time, I know human rights is BS.

When I see so many people worried about criminals and keeping them alive in jails no matter how sick and gruesome their crimes are, while those same people turn a blind'e eye to the same protection of innocent babies being aborted. then human rights is BS.

When I see the bumbling fools of Hollywood claim guns are bad, then either own them themselves or have guards with guns, then human rights is BS.

This is all about politics, like everything is, where certain people want the power to tell everyone else what to do, where to go, what to say, what to wear, what you can say, etc.

And the ironic thing is those same people will largely be atheists who don't believe there is a God, yet are wanting to play the role of one, so they must feel there needs or is supposed to be one.

You are not citing the actual history. You are regurgitating the heavily biased pro Israeli propaganda that you watched on US television.

What can one say -- to Americans too stupid to realize that their consciousness on this issue -- and many others -- are a virtual reality?

One phrase covers it: IT AIN'T SO.

That is not the actual history. I have done the research and know what I am writing is true --

Don't take my word for it. Do the research -- read the history -- and make up your own mind.

BUT DON'T VOMIT FORTH ON THIS BOARD WHAT YOU ASSIMILATED FROM GROWING UP IN AMERIKKKA.

MHG

W*GS
07-20-2012, 05:55 PM
'Course, gaffe thinks "Jud Süß" is the truth.

barryr
07-20-2012, 06:32 PM
You are not citing the actual history. You are regurgitating the heavily biased pro Israeli propaganda that you watched on US television.

What can one say -- to Americans too stupid to realize that their consciousness on this issue -- and many others -- are a virtual reality?

One phrase covers it: IT AIN'T SO.

That is not the actual history. I have done the research and know what I am writing is true --

Don't take my word for it. Do the research -- read the history -- and make up your own mind.

BUT DON'T VOMIT FORTH ON THIS BOARD WHAT YOU ASSIMILATED FROM GROWING UP IN AMERIKKKA.

MHG

We agree to disagree in that, plus I do know the ME does not give a flying crap about the Palestinians and are just used to further their cause to rid the Jews. If the Jews left Israel, the other countries in that region would also rid the Palestinians and make them permanent nomads if not just kill them since they would be of no use to them.