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cmhargrove
07-18-2012, 12:14 PM
The topic here is the "story behind the story." In the long run, does the NFL really care about "in stadium" attendance any more? It seems that the real money comes from TV contracts these days, so more fans at home = higher ratings = better TV contracts. Why would the NFL try too hard to make the "in game expereince" affordable? Anyway, it is an interesting topic, especially if the trend continues and more fans choose to stay away from the stadium (and the league doesn't care).

What say you?

After peaking in 2007, NFL attendance steadily has declined

Posted by Mike Florio on July 8, 2012, 9:39 PM EDT

The recent focus on reducing blackouts has obscured a more important stat when it comes to keep NFL balance sheets deep in the black.

Despite unprecedented growth of TV audiences, attendance at NFL games reached an all-time high in 2007. It has consistently dropped ever since.

In 2011, the NFL posted the lowest total attendance since the league expanded to 32 teams in 2002 with the addition of the Houston Texans. That year, 16,883,310 paying customers attended the 256 regular-season games. The number climbed over the next five years, maxing out at 17,345,205 in 2007.

Since then, the numbers has dropped each year. In 2011, the total paid attendance of 16,562,706 was lower than the prior year’s 16,569,514, even though the 2010 figure excluded the Giants-Vikings game that was moved to Ford Field after the roof of the Metrodome collapsed...


link to entire article:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/after-peaking-in-2007-nfl-attendance-steadily-has-declined/

oubronco
07-18-2012, 12:37 PM
Here's a thought, lower ticket prices so poeple can afford to go to the games

bronco militia
07-18-2012, 12:46 PM
that's whay I gave up my seats last year...also, the game is over exposed. sunday, sunday night, monday night, thursday night, and some saturdays.

enough already

Garcia Bronco
07-18-2012, 12:49 PM
First two years I lived here I went to just about every game. Now I go once a year. It's such a grind to go all 10 games.

Tombstone RJ
07-18-2012, 12:50 PM
hey, did anyone consider that the friggen recession kicked in full swing in 2008 and the economy still sucks?

hmmm...

Dukes
07-18-2012, 12:52 PM
Part of the blame HAS to go to technological advances of HDTV as well.

RhymesayersDU
07-18-2012, 12:58 PM
I love going to games. I went to 9 last year and am looking at another 9 this year.

ludo21
07-18-2012, 01:10 PM
Football and Hockey are the 2 live experiences that are much better in person.

but Ill admit, with football i am not missing a lot by being a couch potato.

The TV experience is great with HD and all the angles

Rabb
07-18-2012, 01:14 PM
I love going to games. I went to 9 last year and am looking at another 9 this year.

samey samey

Doggcow
07-18-2012, 01:24 PM
If I lived there, I'd be going to every game.

Kaylore
07-18-2012, 01:48 PM
It's expensive. You have to deal with traffic, sit in a cramped chair, have some drunken idiots, half of whom are drunk when they step in the stadium, make idiotic comments or start fights. You can pay $50 for parking, or take the magical road through the mud and gravel under some shady bridges, across train tracks to stand on the light rail packed in like sardines.

OR you can watch from your home. Pause the action to pee, wear your underwear and BE that drunken idiot except no one will want to fight you when you complain the QB is doing it wrong.

I love going to games, but more than one or two a year for me is too much trouble to deal with.

brncs_fan
07-18-2012, 01:52 PM
You get drunken idiots when the game takes place at 2 p.m.

Rabb
07-18-2012, 02:36 PM
It's expensive. You have to deal with traffic, sit in a cramped chair, have some drunken idiots, half of whom are drunk when they step in the stadium, make idiotic comments or start fights. You can pay $50 for parking, or take the magical road through the mud and gravel under some shady bridges, across train tracks to stand on the light rail packed in like sardines.

OR you can watch from your home. Pause the action to pee, wear your underwear and BE that drunken idiot except no one will want to fight you when you complain the QB is doing it wrong.

I love going to games, but more than one or two a year for me is too much trouble to deal with.

lol...so true

Yeah, having season tickets is actually a pretty big commitment not just financially but in terms of time...assuming one doesn't sell their tickets at least.

I am definitely not in the "I am a better fan because..." camp, but I will say that during the season, my girlfriend and I very much enjoy making a day of it and tailgating as well as taking the kids when they want to go. I have a parking pass which of course isn't any cheaper than paying every time but at least I pay it up front and don't fool with it.

That said, I look forward to the breaks when there are away games to chill at home with the flat screen although I probably spend the same on beer and food anyhow since at the stadium I only eat and drink what I brought to tailgate.

Last season alone was worth the price of admission, some amazing games to watch and memories that made the almost 10 years I waited for tickets seem like a distant memory.

broncosteven
07-18-2012, 06:44 PM
...
Since then, the numbers has dropped each year. In 2011, the total paid attendance of 16,562,706 was lower than the prior year’s 16,569,514, even though the 2010 figure excluded the Giants-Vikings game that was moved to Ford Field after the roof of the Metrodome collapsed...


link to entire article:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/after-peaking-in-2007-nfl-attendance-steadily-has-declined/

That is just under 7,000 season tickets.

That is like 430 seats per team (game) considering we are in the worst recession in 90 years I think this a non story.

Now if they were talking thousands or more per game/week then it might be a bigger story.

spdirty
07-18-2012, 07:30 PM
I think its only worth going when the team is competitive. Thats just me, because when the weather isn't great, and the team is sucking, I find myself wondering why I'm there paying to suffer like an idiot when i could be at home where i can just change the damn channel. Only went to 1 game when McDip**** was here. Night games in the cold suck, especially when they flex the games to night in November/December. Drunken idiots aren't a big deal to me, I'm so into the game I don't notice them. But i'm a cheap bastard so when I go I go park at Auraria for $10 and walk to the game, and bring snacks and soda in a backpack. Go take a piss before the game starts, and never leave my seat until the game is over.

My old man and I had a pretty damn good system going. Now its maybe 1 or 2 a year although I'm gonna try to go to 3 or 4 this year. So freaking excited for this season.

Kaylore
07-18-2012, 07:32 PM
I think its only worth going when the team is competitive. Thats just me, because when the weather isn't great, and the team is sucking, I find myself wondering why I'm there paying to suffer like an idiot when i could be at home where i can just change the damn channel. Only went to 1 game when McDip**** was here. Night games in the cold suck, especially when they flex the games to night in November/December. Drunken idiots aren't a big deal to me, I'm so into the game I don't notice them. But i'm a cheap bastard so when I go I go park at Auraria for $10 and walk to the game, and bring snacks and soda in a backpack. Go take a piss before the game starts, and never leave my seat until the game is over.

My old man and I had a pretty damn good system going. Now its maybe 1 or 2 a year although I'm gonna try to go to 3 or 4 this year. So freaking excited for this season.

Yeah my dad and I smuggle food in too. It's better than that crap the sell for ten dollars.

RhymesayersDU
07-18-2012, 08:17 PM
For the record, the number of reasons not to go to a game are valid. This past season was my first in Denver, and I can tell you I valued the away game weeks just as much as I did the home game weeks. Now granted, for different reasons, but still. As much as I love home games, I do enjoy laying on my couch as well. This year I turned people down who wanted me to hit a bar for an away game. Wanted to unwind/recharge my batteries.

Also somebody mentioned the quality of play on the field. It's absolutely true. That KC game was miserable. We were a competitive team of course, but a 7-3 game or whatever just isn't fun. Perhaps I'd think differently had we won. I don't know. Also the first half of the SD game before Orton got benched was beyond miserable. Especially that last minute throw from Rivers to VJack.

With all that said, what I'm discovering if that it's all about moments for me. For all the bad plays or sitting in traffic or whatever, there's Tebow to DT in overtime. I wouldn't trade being there for that for anything. And I'm not saying if you weren't there it doesn't mean as much or any BS like that. I'm just saying that for me personally, I absolutely love it.

baja
07-18-2012, 08:50 PM
The topic here is the "story behind the story." In the long run, does the NFL really care about "in stadium" attendance any more? It seems that the real money comes from TV contracts these days, so more fans at home = higher ratings = better TV contracts. Why would the NFL try too hard to make the "in game expereince" affordable? Anyway, it is an interesting topic, especially if the trend continues and more fans choose to stay away from the stadium (and the league doesn't care).

What say you?

After peaking in 2007, NFL attendance steadily has declined

Posted by Mike Florio on July 8, 2012, 9:39 PM EDT

The recent focus on reducing blackouts has obscured a more important stat when it comes to keep NFL balance sheets deep in the black.

Despite unprecedented growth of TV audiences, attendance at NFL games reached an all-time high in 2007. It has consistently dropped ever since.

In 2011, the NFL posted the lowest total attendance since the league expanded to 32 teams in 2002 with the addition of the Houston Texans. That year, 16,883,310 paying customers attended the 256 regular-season games. The number climbed over the next five years, maxing out at 17,345,205 in 2007.

Since then, the numbers has dropped each year. In 2011, the total paid attendance of 16,562,706 was lower than the prior year’s 16,569,514, even though the 2010 figure excluded the Giants-Vikings game that was moved to Ford Field after the roof of the Metrodome collapsed...


link to entire article:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/08/after-peaking-in-2007-nfl-attendance-steadily-has-declined/

It's the economy stupid. ;D

DENVERDUI55
07-18-2012, 08:54 PM
I like to go to 2 or 3 games a year but I also enjoy watching several games on sunday. When you go to the game it seems like you only get to see that game and miss the rest.

enjolras
07-18-2012, 09:31 PM
I bought my house to be close to the stadium;)

I generally leave about 30 minutes before the game. Find a ticket and pop into the stadium. I'm home 20 minutes after the thing ends. It's pretty awesome.

I'll make every home game when I'm in town.

maher_tyler
07-18-2012, 10:47 PM
Ticket prices are to high, HDTV, Sunday Ticket etc. I would absolutely love to go to the game but its a lot of money to pay for tickets and a flight out there. If i lived there i'd go to at least half the home games.

broncocalijohn
07-18-2012, 10:53 PM
I bought my house to be close to the stadium;)

I generally leave about 30 minutes before the game. Find a ticket and pop into the stadium. I'm home 20 minutes after the thing ends. It's pretty awesome.

I'll make every home game when I'm in town.

So did you leave early for the Bears game and the Steelers playoff game? I wouldnt go bragging about leaving early last season.

myMind
07-18-2012, 11:52 PM
All I know is that I'll be attending the Raiders game on Sep 30 and I am super stoked. Got tickets in section 100 for face value at 95 bucks that are listed at 300+. Can't wait to watch 18 throw a fade into the back corner of the endzone right in front of my face!

extralife
07-18-2012, 11:57 PM
hey, did anyone consider that the friggen recession kicked in full swing in 2008 and the economy still sucks?

hmmm...

/thread, etc.

BroncoBen
07-19-2012, 10:57 AM
I like to go to 2 or 3 games a year but I also enjoy watching several games on sunday. When you go to the game it seems like you only get to see that game and miss the rest.

That is why the NFL is trying to put Wi-Fi in the stadiums, maybe allow the NFL RedZone as a in-stadium app.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/19598102/not-all-nfl-stadiums-will-get-wi-fi-in-2012

broncosteven
07-19-2012, 06:33 PM
Yeah my dad and I smuggle food in too. It's better than that crap the sell for ten dollars.

Ah Ha! I knew Mormons were up to no good!

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maven
07-19-2012, 08:02 PM
hey, did anyone consider that the friggen recession kicked in full swing in 2008 and the economy still sucks?

hmmm...

And combine that with giant home HDTV's and streaming games on the internet? Why go?

Beantown Bronco
07-20-2012, 05:24 AM
I wonder how much of this is actually a loss of individual fans in the seat vs a reluctance of local businesses to buy up all those blocks of 500-1000 seats at the last minute to avoid the blackouts. I'm thinking it's more the latter. Businesses (because of the recession) just don't have the disposable cash they used to and aren't buying up all those last minute blocks of tix.

Play2win
07-20-2012, 06:00 AM
That is why the NFL is trying to put Wi-Fi in the stadiums, maybe allow the NFL RedZone as a in-stadium app.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/19598102/not-all-nfl-stadiums-will-get-wi-fi-in-2012

That would be pretty kick-ass, being at the game and watching redzone on your iPhone!