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Tombstone RJ
07-05-2012, 09:05 PM
Check it out...

http://www.athlonsports.com/nfl/ranking-nfls-starting-quarterbacks-2012

Tim
07-05-2012, 09:09 PM
Cassel is ranked too high

Tombstone RJ
07-05-2012, 09:13 PM
Well Cassel did make the top 31...

KipCorrington25
07-06-2012, 12:52 AM
Cassel 31, Cutler 13, I guess McCheat was Dyslexic. The explains a lot he was drafting 7th rounders in the 1st.

Houshyamama
07-06-2012, 01:05 AM
Do dyslexics confuse 7s and 1s?

KipCorrington25
07-06-2012, 01:11 AM
Do dyslexics confuse 7s and 1s?

Knowshow Moreno, Robert Ayres, Tim Tebow...

Yes...

canadianbroncosfan
07-06-2012, 01:56 AM
15. Carson Palmer, Oakland (Age: 32, Record: 50-56)
2011 Stats: 2,753 yards, 13 TD, 16 INT, 20 rush yards, TD (9 games)

WHAT???? A top 15 ranking for Palmer, especially with his performance last season, is stretching it. I know it's not based on last season (hence Manning's ranking) but you rank him ahead of Cam Newton??

Bacchus
07-06-2012, 04:57 AM
15. Carson Palmer, Oakland (Age: 32, Record: 50-56)
2011 Stats: 2,753 yards, 13 TD, 16 INT, 20 rush yards, TD (9 games)

WHAT???? A top 15 ranking for Palmer, especially with his performance last season, is stretching it. I know it's not based on last season (hence Manning's ranking) but you rank him ahead of Cam Newton??

IMO Palmer has been overrated every year since he came into the NFL.

Bacchus
07-06-2012, 05:05 AM
Check it out...

http://www.athlonsports.com/nfl/ranking-nfls-starting-quarterbacks-2012

That's cool you can by the Anthlon with Manning on the cover. I just order myself one. They usually have a great preseason edition.

Bob's your Information Minister
07-06-2012, 07:31 AM
Sometimes I just want to cry.

lolcopter
07-06-2012, 07:35 AM
romo is the top 10 is highly questionable

sanchez is too high and all the rookies are unknowns

maher_tyler
07-06-2012, 07:38 AM
15. Carson Palmer, Oakland (Age: 32, Record: 50-56)
2011 Stats: 2,753 yards, 13 TD, 16 INT, 20 rush yards, TD (9 games)

WHAT???? A top 15 ranking for Palmer, especially with his performance last season, is stretching it. I know it's not based on last season (hence Manning's ranking) but you rank him ahead of Cam Newton??

Griffin was #21/Luck at #17 and haven't taken a snap in the NFL...this list all credibility with this and what you have stated...

gunns
07-06-2012, 08:03 AM
I think these rankings shows how the QB position has fallen as far as quality. The days of Elway, Marino, Montana is long gone.

maher_tyler
07-06-2012, 08:19 AM
I think these rankings shows how the QB position has fallen as far as quality. The days of Elway, Marino, Montana is long gone.

P. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers and E. Manning are pretty good..all Hall of Famers. Rothlesberger on his way as well (as much as we don't like him). P. Manning and Brady could be mention in the same sentence as the guys you mentioned.

Bacchus
07-06-2012, 08:47 AM
I think these rankings shows how the QB position has fallen as far as quality. The days of Elway, Marino, Montana is long gone.

Really, I would say Brady, Mannings, Brees, Rapistberger, are as good as the ones you mentioned. I feel Moon is probably one of themost overrated QBs oin NFL history. He played in a gimmick offense that was designed for him to put up many yards. But his team could never get the tough yards late in the game because of the offense.

JCMElway
07-06-2012, 09:13 AM
Cam Newton is too low.

CPA
07-06-2012, 09:16 AM
Where's Tebow, dammit.

Rigs11
07-06-2012, 09:20 AM
Where's Tebow, dammit.

this was rankings for QBs:yayaya:

errand
07-06-2012, 12:26 PM
Sometimes I just want to cry.

Well, what with you being a Chiefs fan and all, I can understand why you'd feel that way.....

Kaylore
07-06-2012, 12:36 PM
Cassel is ranked too high

Hilarious!

errand
07-06-2012, 11:06 PM
That's cool you can by the Anthlon with Manning on the cover. I just order myself one. They usually have a great preseason edition.

spoiler alert! Out of respect for you Bacchus, if your copy hasn't arrived yet, you might want to skip this post for those who won't purchase it, or don't care, read on....








some interesting stuff in this year's issue....

[] they predict that given the Jet's tough schedule, and Sanchez's penchant for not being a very good QB that Tim Tebow will emerge as the Jet's starter in 2012.

[] there is an article entitled "Mile High Manning" in it the article says that Elway asked Peyton if he could get back to the Peyton we've all come to know,and Manning answered "there's no doubt in my mind"

[] The article also covers third down conversions...and says that Manning led colts led the NFL in 3rd down conversions from 2005-2009...including a gaudy 56.2% in '06 enroute to winning the SB. By contrast, the colts without him finished 23rd in 3rd down conversions this past year (Broncos were 30th with 30.8%)

[] Article also states that since 2008 Manning has completed a league best 74.4% of passes that traveled 15 plus yards...(Tebow is next to last at 53.9%)

[] How incredible was Denver's 6 game winning streak this past season? I'm sure the hero worshippers will spout this without even thinking that their boy is why the numbers were so astounding by his lackluster play in the first 55 minutes of the games..

Well according to nerds at ESPN's Stats&Info office, they got some Big Bang Theory guys to crunch the numbers of a team's probability of winning a game at every stage of the given game.

the miami win was very astounding given we trailed by 15 with 5:50 remaining...that meant the chances of any team winning that game at that point was less than 2%...

in our 6 game streak we faced at the most dire points of those games, the win probability was 11.3%...43%....22.3%....12%....14.8%...and 3.8% If you calculate the probability of us winning all 6 of those games, you're looking a a 1-137,000 chance (which is less chance than correctly predicting the coin flip every week of the season)

[] The 2011 Broncos according to Elias Sports Bureau, were the first team since the '56 Redskins to win 5 consecutive games without completing 10 passes in any of them.

[] There is also a quote by Archie Manning stating the difference between sons Eli and Peyton (besides the number of SB rings) is "If Eli ordered steak and they brought him flounder, Eli would just eat the flounder....What would Peyton do? You ought not bring Peyton the flounder..."

[] Pro Football Focus evidently keeps track of a WR's "average depth of target" basically tracking how far from the line of scrimmage a WR is when he is targeted by his QB...basically letting you know who the deep threats are. FYI, our two projected starters Decker (15.5) and DT (15.2) ranked 10th and 12th respectively ahead of celebrated guys like Calvin Johnson (15th) Andre Johnson (20th) Donald Driver (81st) and Percy Harvin (99th)

[] those who worry about Caleb Hanie as our back-up have good cause...on November 27th vs Raiders trailing 25-20, while trying to mount a last minute drive, took too many steps back before spiking the ball....which drew a flag for intentional grounding, ending the game.

[] For those that worry about the Falcons in week two...I wouldn't...they went 4-1 in weeks 10-14....not bad, until you notice they did so against rookie QB's in every one of those 5 games.

DENVERDUI55
07-07-2012, 09:22 PM
Where's Tebow, dammit.

He is the top FB.

Mogulseeker
07-07-2012, 09:26 PM
Peyton has dropped below Eli... interesting.

Mogulseeker
07-07-2012, 09:28 PM
5. Peyton Manning, Denver (Age: 36, Record: 141-67)
2011 Stats: None

If not for four (that we know of) neck surgeries and a new area code, the elder Manning would be no lower than No. 2 on this list. But there are still question marks surrounding No. 18’s ability to return to his Hall of Fame effectiveness. If he returns to full health, even at 36 years old, he is securely in the Top 3.

I think the reasoning behind this is stupid. If he doesn't come back or if he gets injured again, he isn't even top 100. (You can't play if you're injured.) They're right that if he's healthy, then he is top three... but why not just put an "TBD" next to his name.

Agamemnon
07-08-2012, 02:09 PM
Andrew Luck at #17 before even playing a down in the NFL? Hilarious!

Pontius Pirate
07-08-2012, 08:15 PM
Cam Newton will be top-5 by years end.