Prometheus

[mhgaffney]

Prometheus is easily the best sci-fi since Avatar

The film explores the deepest of the deep issues. Did anyone notice the resemblance of the old man to the character in 2001: A Space Odyssey? The resemblance was conspicuous -- an obvious nod to Arthur C Clark and Stanley Kubrick...

Maybe this landmark movie will stimulate interest in Richard C Hoagland's amazing research into the Saturnian moon, Iapetus, which has characteristics that cannot be explained by natural cosmological processes, and therefor is probably artificial.

Hoagland's research on Iapetus involves the same theme that dominates the film Prometheus -- human origins.

The moon Iapetus is not even spherical -- but rather, appears to be a truncated icosahedron. Moreover, it has a equatorial bulge that perfectly divides the two hemispheres. The feature is nothing short of incredible.

Hoagland's paper will blow you away -- IF you have the patience to read all the way to the end.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon5.htm

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[Boomhauer]

OP - "Prometheus is easily the best sci-fi since Avatar"

Never seen Avatar and don't intend to. Have even passed since it's been on TV. Prometheus I may watch one day on TV, if there's nothing else on, but to say it's "the best since Avatar" doesn't blow my skirt up.

[mhgaffney]

I posted this thread on the main board -- but it was IMMEDIATELY bumped to this forum.

Inexplicably, the other off-message threads about music, guns and the moon walk remain on the main board.

So, here is my little gift to whatever OM moderator was responsible.

MHG

[orinjkrush]

IMHO Avatar had more interesting special effects. Prometheus sorta started out with a bang but ended with a whimper (maybe intentional?). Interesting how both portray evil corporate empires though.

[mhgaffney]

OP - "Prometheus is easily the best sci-fi since Avatar"

Never seen Avatar and don't intend to. Have even passed since it's been on TV. Prometheus I may watch one day on TV, if there's nothing else on, but to say it's "the best since Avatar" doesn't blow my skirt up.

Fine. Enjoy your teeny weeny itsy bitsy comfort zone.

"There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamed of in your philosophy, Horatio..."
---W. Shakespeare

[orinjkrush]

interesting read on Iapetus. thanks.

[Bronco Yoda]

I'm a big fan of the Alien Trilogy. Loved the premise of the prequel. I was so excited for this film to come out.

...then I went and saw it.

Hard to believe they could screw it up; but they did. No suspense... bad character development... on and on. The most boring death scenes I can recall ever seeing.

It felt like it was a three hour movie that was cropped down to 2 hours that had all the character development, good chase scenes, and suspenseful setups all deleted for some reason. And in the end didn't answer anything really.

This movie does not stand on it's own. The best I can say for it is that it might be setting up for a better sequel?

Very disappointing.

[Fedaykin]

LMAO Prometheus is many things. A deeply thought provoking film is not one of those things. The science in the film -- particularly the biology -- is laughable at best.

Not surprised cranks love it though, it's the typical faux science B movie, only made viable with a massive budget and an excellent director.

[lonestar]

My SI-FI son saw it and told me not to waste my money, which means wait till it hits HBO..

Said it was not near Avatar quality..

so I will wait..

[Spider]

More interested in iapetus

[theAPAOps5]

You started it, I don't blame the mods for moving it. I am just shocked you don't have any anti-Semite rants like the other crap you post.

[mhgaffney]

You started it, I don't blame the mods for moving it. I am just shocked you don't have any anti-Semite rants like the other crap you post.

You forget -- more likely you never knew -- that Palestinians (and all Arabs for that matter) are also semitic.

How could I be anti semitic for insisting on justice for Palestinians?

Answer: I couldn't - and I am not.

[mhgaffney]

I'm a big fan of the Alien Trilogy. Loved the premise of the prequel. I was so excited for this film to come out.

...then I went and saw it.

Hard to believe they could screw it up; but they did. No suspense... bad character development... on and on. The most boring death scenes I can recall ever seeing.

It felt like it was a three hour movie that was cropped down to 2 hours that had all the character development, good chase scenes, and suspenseful setups all deleted for some reason. And in the end didn't answer anything really.

This movie does not stand on it's own. The best I can say for it is that it might be setting up for a better sequel?

Very disappointing.

Strange. I loved it.

It was an extremely well-put-together movie. The ideas behind it are what make it special -- and those ideas originated with Arthur C. Clark's great novel, Childhood's End.

Amazing that Clark anticipated the very questions that must now be asked in the case of Iapetus. This moon is 900 miles across. Hard to get the mind around the fact that it is almost certainly artificial, how it came to be there -- and who made it.

The moon is very likely hundreds of millions of years old. Yet artificial.

Whoever constructed Iapetus doubtless played a central role in the development of life on planet earth -- and the emergence of our species.

MHG

[mhgaffney]

Darwinism is dead. Long live Darwin.

[Doggcow]

???

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=105513

???

[DenverBrit]

Prometheus is easily the best sci-fi since Avatar
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Have there been any sci fi movies of note since Avatar??

And was Avatar sci-fi or science fantasy?

[Fedaykin]

Why am I not surprised gaff-o idolizes crappy sci-fi movies written by hack writers? Of course, he seems to think it's science fact, so go figure.

[mhgaffney]

Why am I not surprised gaff-o idolizes crappy sci-fi movies written by hack writers? Of course, he seems to think it's science fact, so go figure.

idolizes?

Give me a break.

Hack writer? What of the issues raised in the film? The same issues raised in 2001: A Space Odyssey...

Fedaykin can't be bothered thinking about deep issues. He is having too much fun ridiculing others.

A-holes like him are a dime a dozen.

[Fedaykin]

idolizes?

Give me a break.

Hack writer? What of the issues raised in the film? The same issues raised in 2001: A Space Odyssey...


Name dropping a legit thinker/sci-fi writer and trying to compare it to your drivel is pathetic. Also, it's pretty clear you've never actually read ACC if you think the two works you've mentioned have anything to do with the "plot" of this movie.

Pray tell, what "issues" do you think are so profound?


Fedaykin can't be bothered thinking about deep issues. He is having too much fun ridiculing others.


Nothing deep in this movie. It's a monster movie with a huge budget trying to retcon itself into the universe of its monster movie predecessor in order to leverage its success.

OH, and it tosses in some completely unoriginal and laughably depicted pseudoscience to try to be a legit sci-fi movie instead of just a monster movie. Not at all impressive.

Ridley Scott would have done a lot better to just find a decent new story to make a movie out of instead of a nostalgic bargain basement script from a B movie writer worked over by the hack from Lost.


A-holes like him are a dime a dozen.

Rather be an honest asshole than a dishonest bottom feeder like you.

[W*GS]

Amazing that Clark anticipated the very questions that must now be asked in the case of Iapetus. This moon is 900 miles across. Hard to get the mind around the fact that it is almost certainly artificial, how it came to be there -- and who made it.

The moon is very likely hundreds of millions of years old. Yet artificial.

Whoever constructed Iapetus doubtless played a central role in the development of life on planet earth -- and the emergence of our species.

Oh brother.

You can't even get Sir Arthur Charles Clarke's name right.

You need to provide some extraordinary evidence that Iapetus is artificial, to back up your extraordinary claim.

Given your utter and complete failures regarding Venus, I'm extremely doubtful that you can.

[mhgaffney]

Name dropping a legit thinker/sci-fi writer and trying to compare it to your drivel is pathetic. Also, it's pretty clear you've never actually read ACC if you think the two works you've mentioned have anything to do with the "plot" of this movie.

Pray tell, what "issues" do you think are so profound?



Nothing deep in this movie. It's a monster movie with a huge budget trying to retcon itself into the universe of its monster movie predecessor in order to leverage its success.

OH, and it tosses in some completely unoriginal and laughably depicted pseudoscience to try to be a legit sci-fi movie instead of just a monster movie. Not at all impressive.

Ridley Scott would have done a lot better to just find a decent new story to make a movie out of instead of a nostalgic bargain basement script from a B movie writer worked over by the hack from Lost.

Rather be an honest a-hole than a dishonest bottom feeder like you.

Well, at least you acknowledge that you are an A-hole. But please leave me out of your screwed up world view.

You are clearly unprepared to take up the issue of human origins, which is the theme of Prometheus -- like it or not.

You find this scary?

I read Childhood's End many years ago -- and the book is indeed about the non Darwinian origin of our species.

At the time he wrote it, AC Clarke can have had no knowledge of the facts regarding the Saturnian moon Iapetus.

Other leaders in science, prominently, the great astronomer Sir Fred Hoyle, and Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of DNA, also advanced similar ideas.

I remember the day in 2005 when I was searching in the UC Berkeley physics library for Crick's seminal paper, Directed Panspermia....and was shocked to discover that someone had actually excised the paper from the 1973 issue of Icarus.

This obvious attempt to suppress an idea deemed too radical to be allowed to remain in the library -- was a lesson to me about human nature, or, to be more specific, human foibles.

It was a failure of nerve, and cowardice -- the same sort of behavior we see on the OM every day -- including YOUR slanderous posts, I might add.

Fortunately, Crick's paper may be accessed on the Internet. One need not depend on libraries. Here it is:

http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/SC/B/C/C/P/_/scbccp.pdf

[Fedaykin]

You are clearly unprepared to take up the issue of human origins, which is the theme of Prometheus -- like it or not.

You find this scary?


Not at all scary. That's a pretty pathetic attempt to put words into my mouth. And given your complete lack of scientific knowledge of any kind -- demonstrated numerous times here -- it's hilarious for you to say *I'm* the one completely unprepared.


I read Childhood's End many years ago -- and the book is indeed about the non Darwinian origin of our species.


Liar. Childhood's end is not about non-Darwinian origins of our species. It's about the purpose of humanity. It's about what the destiny of our species is. Childhood's End is one fanciful idea about what's next for humans -- the transition from the childhood of our "present" to the adulthood of what's beyond -- hence the title of the book. The Overlords are simply facilitators/tinkerers of the transition -- similar to the monolith builders from 2001.

Of course, if you weren't just a lying hack, you wouldn't make such a fundamental mistake about Clark's work. The thematic content of much of Clark's work revolves around answering that question: What's our purpose and destiny? Clark's answer -- almost always -- is that through technological progress we will transcend physical form and limitations and achieve "godhood".

I don't recall any book by Clark that postulates what you are claiming. Certainly non claim Iaputus is artificial (just how the hell do you make that crazy leap?)


At the time he wrote it, AC Clarke can have had no knowledge of the facts regarding the Saturnian moon Iapetus.


LMAO superficially true (Clark didn't know much and couldn't know much when he wrote those books) but also completely false in its implication that your whack job ideas are "fact" (there is no evidence whatsoever that Iapetus is artificial).


Other leaders in science, prominently, the great astronomer Sir Fred Hoyle, and Francis Crick, the co-discoverer of DNA, also advanced similar ideas.


And? The evidence does not suggest that the panspermia hypothesis is correct -- though it is a possibility.

Of course, even if life on Earth was seeded from another place, that just moves the question of origins back to that other place.



I remember the day in 2005 when I was searching in the UC Berkeley physics library for Crick's seminal paper, Directed Panspermia....and was shocked to discover that someone had actually excised the paper from the 1973 issue of Icarus.

This obvious attempt to suppress an idea deemed too radical to be allowed to remain in the library -- was a lesson to me about human nature, or, to be more specific, human foibles.


Yep, the plot is so devious they hide this "too radical knowledge" by teaching it to school children.

Idiot.


It was a failure of nerve, and cowardice -- the same sort of behavior we see on the OM every day -- including YOUR slanderous posts, I might add.


To have such a pathological liar as you try to claim my posts correcting your bullsh*t are "slanderous" is hilarious.


Fortunately, Crick's paper may be accessed on the Internet. One need not depend on libraries. Here it is:

http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/SC/B/C/C/P/_/scbccp.pdf


Look, the government is hiding this too radical of knowledge by hosting it on their web servers! How dastardly!!!

[mosca]

Have there been any sci fi movies of note since Avatar??


And was Avatar sci-fi or science fantasy?
The Adjustment Bureau with Matt Damon was pretty good. Philip K. Dick is usually (but not always) good source material. Seen there's a Total Recall remake on deck too.

[Fedaykin]

The Adjustment Bureau with Matt Damon was pretty good. Philip K. Dick is usually (but not always) good source material. Seen there's a Total Recall remake on deck too.

The Total Recall remake is already here -- to be released Aug 3.

Should be interesting. According to what I've read, it's much, much closer to the source than the Governator's version.

[mosca]

The Adjustment Bureau with Matt Damon was pretty good. Philip K. Dick is usually (but not always) good source material. Seen there's a Total Recall remake on deck too.
And let's not forget Inception.

[Fedaykin]

Oh brother.

You can't even get Sir Arthur Charles Clarke's name right.

You need to provide some extraordinary evidence that Iapetus is artificial, to back up your extraordinary claim.

Given your utter and complete failures regarding Venus, I'm extremely doubtful that you can.


Blatant lies, and epic handwavum incoming in

3...


2...


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[mosca]

The Total Recall remake is already here -- to be released Aug 3.

Should be interesting. According to what I've read, it's much, much closer to the source than the Governator's version.
That's what I've heard. I'm sure that's a good thing, but I'm still not sure I'll be able to enjoy it as much as the original because:
1)I'm tired of remakes/reboots/rehashes/sequels and
2) 80s movies with Ahnold kicking ass are such a guilty pleasure

[ant1999e]

But what about Iran?

[Fedaykin]

Have there been any sci fi movies of note since Avatar??

And was Avatar sci-fi or science fantasy?

Meh, Avatar was also just a thinly veiled technology demo/wankfest.

Pocahontas in space...

Last good mainstream sci-fi was District 9. Perhaps Super 8.

[Fedaykin]

That's what I've heard. I'm sure that's a good thing, but I'm still not sure I'll be able to enjoy it as much as the original because:
1)I'm tired of remakes/reboots/rehashes/sequels and
2) 80s movies with Ahnold kicking ass are such a guilty pleasure

Ha! Yeah I think you're on to something with those points =)

Plus, the triplets. How can you forget them?

[DenverBrit]

Meh, Avatar was also just a thinly veiled technology demo/wankfest.

Pocahontas in space...

Last good mainstream sci-fi was District 9. Perhaps Super 8.

After a good start, Avatar became 'Dances with wolves.'

District 9 was excellent.

[mhgaffney]

Inception was great. I loved it. The movie had a spiritual theme-- but this thread is about Prometheus and the issues raised in the film, to wit, the non Darwinian origins of life on earth -- including our own species.

I explained that in 2005 I was digging through the UC Berkeley library in search of Francis Crick's seminal paper, Directed Panspermia -- and was shocked to learn that someone had cropped the article out of the journal Icarus.

A crude attempt to suppress an idea viewed as too far out there for serious science.

Feydakin went into his knee jerk routine -- put words in my mouth about a government conspiracy -- ridiculous nonsense. It never ends.

With the discovery that Iapetus is an artificial moon, Crick's 1973 paper deserves a close look. This is a no brainer, folks.

I posted the link to Nobel Laureate Francis Crick's 1973 paper, Directed Panspermia -- so where's the discussion?

Here's the link again:
http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/SC/B/C/C/P/_/scbccp.pdf

Did anyone even look at it? It's only 5 pages long.

LETS HAVE SOME DISCUSSION!

[W*GS]

With the discovery that Iapetus is an artificial moon, Crick's 1973 paper deserves a close look. This is a no brainer, folks.

When the **** was Iapetus shown to be artificial?

Christ, gaffe, you're not in the ****ing universe.

[Fedaykin]

With the discovery that Iapetus is an artificial moon, Crick's 1973 paper deserves a close look. This is a no brainer, folks.

Extraordinary claim... requires extraordinary evidence.

Put up or shut up.

[mhgaffney]

Extraordinary claim... requires extraordinary evidence.

Put up or shut up.

It's already happened -- and where were you?

In 2005 the Cassini probe grabbed some truly remarkable photos of Iapetus -- from fairly close up. Certainly close enough to document the anomalies.

I posted RC Hoagland's paper on this. Scroll up for the link.

[El Minion]

Meh, Avatar was also just a thinly veiled technology demo/wankfest.

Pocahontas in space...

Last good mainstream sci-fi was District 9. Perhaps Super 8.

District 9 was good but Super 8 sucked, if you really want to see a very very good sci-fi movie watch/rent/stream this one, no stupid and unnecessary CGI eye candy:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/Primer.jpg

[W*GS]

It's already happened -- and where were you?

In 2005 the Cassini probe grabbed some truly remarkable photos of Iapetus -- from fairly close up. Certainly close enough to document the anomalies.

I posted RC Hoagland's paper on this. Scroll up for the link.

More Hoagland horse****, that gaffe eats up ravenously...

Hotel Hoagland My apologies to The Eagles

On a dark probe of Saturn, Iapetus was right there, in plain sight
Could it be a death star, rising up through the night?
Up ahead in the distance, I saw a view of Saturn's rings
My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim
A hyperdimensional hotel of alien design!
There it stood like a spherule
Or perhaps a giant Bucky Ball?
And I was thinking to myself,
This is hyperdimensional artifical evidence!
Then Iapetus showed me the way
There were voices from the depths of reality
I thought I heard them say...

Welcome to the Hotel Hoagland
Such a lovely place
Such a lovely face
Plenty of woo at the Hotel Hoagland
Any hyperdimension you desire, you can find it here!

[Fedaykin]

It's already happened -- and where were you?

In 2005 the Cassini probe grabbed some truly remarkable photos of Iapetus -- from fairly close up. Certainly close enough to document the anomalies.

I posted RC Hoagland's paper on this. Scroll up for the link.

Pure wild speculation. OMG this moon has some odd physical characteristics (none of which are as your POS paper suggests). Therefore IT'S ARTIFICIAL AND DARWIN WAS WRONG.

weeeeeeeee!

Seriously, this is the evidence you're putting forth?

http://www.enterprisemission.com/images_v2/Iapetus5/Iapetus-C60.jpg

A ****ing picture with a bunch of mumbo jumbo about how an highly irregularly shaped solar object is actually a highly organized, highly regular object?

Jesus you'll lap up anything won't you?

[myMind]

this thread is about Prometheus and the issues raised in the film, to wit, the non Darwinian origins of life on earth -- including our own species.
!

It never said anything about non darwinism origins. It just suggested a possible explanation of how darwinism began. You really are a nut-job man.

[W*GS]

Remember, folks, "Prometheus" is a movie.

Figures gaffe would use something intended as pure entertainment to rock his reality.

The man has difficulties. Severe mental difficulties.

[baja]

It never said anything about non darwinism origins. It just suggested a possible explanation of how darwinism began. You really are a nut-job man.

Actually no it did not.

[baja]

Remember, folks, "Prometheus" is a movie.

Figures gaffe would use something intended as pure entertainment to rock his reality.

The man has difficulties. Severe mental difficulties.


There hasn't been a movie made intended for pure entertainment for over 50 years

[W*GS]

There hasn't been a movie made intended for pure entertainment for over 50 years

Kick-Ass.

[baja]

Kick-Ass.


Guaranteed at a minimum they are pushing several products in that movie and I haven't seen it

[W*GS]

Guaranteed at a minimum they are pushing several products in that movie and I haven't seen it

The last four words make your judgement suspect.

[mhgaffney]

Hoagland predicted the discovery of water on the moon Europa and is the winner of the Angstrom Science award.

Hoagland is a lot smarter than our resident knee jerks -- who never contribute anything positive -- but come here for one purpose -- because they get their kicks sliming others.

Which is sicko.

MHG

[Fedaykin]

Hoagland predicted the discovery of water on the moon Europa and is the winner of the Angstrom Science award.

Hoagland is a lot smarter than our resident knee jerks -- who never contribute anything positive -- but come here for one purpose -- because they get their kicks sliming others.

Which is sicko.

MHG

[edited: I misread the replied post]
Hogand's claim is that he was the first to thing that there was water (and possibly life) under the ice.

And it's a bogus claim.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/credentials.html#intro

Also, he never received a real "Angstrom Medal" he received an authorized unauthorized "prize" from an organization that has nothing to -- and even the organization that did it has said it was a mistake.


"So guess who gave Hoagland the medal? Not Uppsala University, but the AFAB. According to amateur historian Alan Archer, who has done a bit of research on this issue, Hoagland's receipt of this medal was not official. In fact, the AFAB didn't even have permission from the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences to give it out! Archer spells it out quite clearly: "The Angstrom Foundation AB's use of the Angstrom memorial medal of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences as a component of the 1993 Angstrom Medal award to Richard C. Hoagland was an unauthorized use of the academy's medal."

Anders Marelius, head of the department of physics at Uppsala University, had this to say, as quoted by Peter Linde: "The Angstrom foundation is a private foundation without connections to Uppsala or any other university. The department of Physics in Uppsala, where two professors Angstrom have been active, has no links with the activities of Richard Hoagland. The department considers the Hoagland project as speculative and unscientific and rejects it entirely.

...

Alan Archer and Lars-Jonas Angstrom, the founder of the AFAB, have exchanged many emails. In one reply by Lars-Jonas Angstrom, he says, "Obviously a mistake was made in awarding the medal to Mr Hoagland."




Of course, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what medals the guy has. A medal is not a substitute for actual intelligence, knowledge and real contributions.

You so love your appeals to authority don't you? The sum of your arguments so far can be summed up as "This (false) authority says so, so it's true!". Sad.

[Fedaykin]

The core of what Hoagland does.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/artifacts.html

As I pointed out earlier, all he does it make ludicrous claims based on his interpretation of images (aka, he point to a picture and just makes **** up). He's trying to claim Iaputus is a geometric object based on a fuzzy, pixelated image that in no way supports his "theory".

from the link:


Hoagland's website is full of images like this. He takes images, blows them up, saves them as JPEGs, then claims there are patterns in them indicating regular structures! Here is one he claims shows a building. Here is another with a "power plant". In fact, this long, rambling webpage on Hoagland's site has many such examples of over-magnified, over-compressed images showing compression noise. They are not artificial structures, as he claims, they are simply what you get when you over-manipulate an image, as I did above.

[W*GS]

Why am I not surprised that gaffe treats Hoagland with such reverence?

gaffe is one of the most gullible idiots I've ever come across.

[mhgaffney]

The core of what Hoagland does.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/hoagland/artifacts.html

As I pointed out earlier, all he does it make ludicrous claims based on his interpretation of images (aka, he point to a picture and just makes **** up). He's trying to claim Iaputus is a geometric object based on a fuzzy, pixelated image that in no way supports his "theory".

from the link:

It took me five minutes to determine that the guy who runs this site, Phil Plait, is an A-hole.

After reading what he said about Jim McCanney (the maverick scientist who has proposed a new comet model -- see below for the link)...

I sent Plait an email asking if he had read McCanney's comet paper. No reply.

Obviously, Plait never even read the work of the guy he attempts to debunk. No doubt, the same is true with respect to Hoagland, who's published at least two serious books.

People who run debunking sites -- who do not respond to sincere questions are of dubious rep, and are not to be taken seriously.

Feydakin has admitted that he's an A-hole. No surprise that he cites one. Birds of a feather flock... well you know.

MHG

[mhgaffney]

McCanney's plasma discharge comet model:
http://www.tmgnow.com/repository/cometary/ori1.html

[Requiem]

The real question is how many layups does Fedaykin make if given ten tries and isn't guarded.

[mhgaffney]

Hahahahahaaa!

[Fedaykin]

It took me five minutes to determine that the guy who runs this site, Phil Plait, is an A-hole.


LMAO. The BA is pretty much the furthest thing from an a-hole that there can be -- internet or not. Unless of course you define a-hole as "knowledgeable person who won't let people spread lies and bull****".

And of course, whether or not someone is an a-hole has no bearing on their correctness or not.


After reading what he said about Jim McCanney (the maverick scientist who has proposed a new comet model -- see below for the link)...

I sent Plait an email asking if he had read McCanney's comet paper. No reply.

Obviously, Plait never even read the work of the guy he attempts to debunk. No doubt, the same is true with respect to Hoagland, who's published at least two serious books.


Straight up ****ing lies. Plait has combed through tons of the **** he talk about -- that's how he can discuss in in such great detail.

You lying piece of ****.


People who run debunking sites -- who do not respond to sincere questions are of dubious rep, and are not to be taken seriously.

Feydakin has admitted that he's an A-hole. No surprise that he cites one. Birds of a feather flock... well you know.

MHG


Oh look. A giant ad-hominem. This is truly pathetic gaff-o.

[Fedaykin]

The real question is how many layups does Fedaykin make if given ten tries and isn't guarded.

None probably. I play real sports not childish games.

;)

[Requiem]

None probably. I play real sports not childish games.

;)

I don't play basketball anymore either. What sports do you play?

[Fedaykin]

I don't play basketball anymore either. What sports do you play?

The only "sports" I do typically are martial arts (several different styles) and mountain biking.

[Requiem]

The only "sports" I do typically are martial arts (several different styles) and mountain biking.

Cool. Someday you and I will have accompany Boomhauer to the Trestle Bike Park and have him show us moves while he bosses on his Wal-Mart GT.

[mhgaffney]

LMAO. The BA is pretty much the furthest thing from an a-hole that there can be -- internet or not. Unless of course you define a-hole as "knowledgeable person who won't let people spread lies and bull****".

And of course, whether or not someone is an a-hole has no bearing on their correctness or not.



Straight up ****ing lies. Plait has combed through tons of the **** he talk about -- that's how he can discuss in in such great detail.

You lying piece of ****.

Oh look. A giant ad-hominem. This is truly pathetic gaff-o.

Detail?

Plait's critique of McCanney's 3-part comet paper is limited to a couple of paragraphs.

Are you kidding me?

Plait's site might as well be a local chapter of the books-are-for-burning crusade.

MHG

[myMind]

Actually no it did not.

What?

The engineer threw himself off the waterfall after ingesting the "black goo," the following scenes showed his dna proliferating with microscopic bacteria or some such single cell organism and therefor eluding to the beginings of evolution, which is a Darwinistic cornerstone. Everything else in that movie was just the Lidelhasselhoff douchebag from lost thinking he has the chops to write this kind of movie, when he doesn't. The script was decent before he did rewrites.

[baja]

The only "sports" I do typically are martial arts (several different styles) and mountain biking.

Right!

I do knife fighting and quick draw shoot outs myself oh ya and NASCAR & Indy racing

[Fedaykin]

Detail?

Plait's critique of McCanney's 3-part comet paper is limited to a couple of paragraphs.

Are you kidding me?

Plait's site might as well be a local chapter of the books-are-for-burning crusade.

MHG

Jesus you lie like a rug or and are too ****ing stupid to follow a simple html table of contents

For the on-brain damaged among us, here's a link the The BA's discussion of McCanney's quackery:

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/mccanney/snowballs.html

[Fedaykin]

Right!

I do knife fighting and quick draw shoot outs myself oh ya and NASCAR & Indy racing


What, jealous?

[baja]

What, jealous?

No I have guns

[Fedaykin]

No I have guns

Good for you. It's interesting your response to me talking about my recreational activities with a 3rd party is to talk about how you have guns.

Actually that's not interesting, it's a bit disturbing.

[baja]

Good for you. It's interesting your response to me talking about my recreational activities with a 3rd party is to talk about how you have guns.

Actually that's not interesting, it's a bit disturbing.

good

[Fedaykin]

good

:rofl:

Trying to big an internet tough guy eh?

We can just add this pathetic display to your many list of failings.

[baja]

:rofl:

Trying to big an internet tough guy eh?

We can just add this pathetic display to your many list of failings.


We?

Those posts are for you only my dear boy

[myMind]

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