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JCMElway
06-22-2012, 02:16 PM
My stab at the final 53

QB (3)
Manning, Hannie, Osweiler

RB (5)
Magahee, Hillman, Moreno, Fanin
Gronkowski (FB)

WR (5)
D Thomas, A Caldwell
Decker, Page
Stokley

TE (4)
Tamme, J Thomas
Dressen, V Green

OL (8)
Clady, R Harris
Franklin
Kuper, Ramirez
Beadles
Blake, Walton

DE (4)
Dumerville, Hunter
Ayers, M Jackson

DT (4)
Warren, Vickerson
Wolfe, Bannan

LB (7)
SLB: D.J, Woodyard, Steven Johnson
WLB: Von, Travathan
MLB: Mays, Irving

CB (6)
Champ, Bolden
Florence, Porter, Squid Thompson
Slot: C Harris

(S)
Moore, Carter
M Adams, Bruton

ST: Prater, Paxton, Colquitt

PS
Ihenaco S
Remmers OT
G Robinson WR
Coryell CB
Blatnick DE
Silga DT
Tribue OG
J Franklin LB

I think someone like Franklin or Blatnik could start the season with the team to cover for DJ while he is suspended.

oubronco
06-22-2012, 03:16 PM
Weber will be on the team either final 53 or PS

Bmore Manning
06-22-2012, 03:23 PM
QB: Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
RB: McGahee, Hillman, Moreno, Fanin
WR: DT, Decker, Stokely, Caldwell, Page
TE: Tamme, Thomas, Green
TE/FB: Dreesen
OLine: Clady T, Franklin T, Harris T, Kuper G, Beadles G, Ramirez G, Blake C/G, Walton C

Offense# 24

DE: Doom, Ayers, Jackson, Odom, Hunter
DT: Warren, Wolfe, Siliga, Bannan, Vickerson
LB: Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Trevathan, Irving, Johnson
CB: Champ, Porter, Florence, Bolden, Harris, Thompson
S: Adams, Moore, Carter, Bruton

Defense#26

Special Teams #3

pricejj
06-22-2012, 03:42 PM
QB: Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
RB: McGahee, Hillman, Moreno, Fannin
WR: DT, Decker, Stokely, Caldwell, Page
TE: Tamme, Dreesen, Thomas, Green
FB: Gronkowski
OLine: Clady T, Franklin T, Harris T, Kuper G, Beadles G, Ramirez G, Blake C/G, Walton C

Offense# 24

DE: Doom, Ayers, Jackson, Odom, Hunter
DT: Warren, Wolfe, Siliga, Bannan, Vickerson
LB: Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Trevathan, Irving, Johnson, Williams
CB: Champ, Porter, Florence, Bolden, Harris, Thompson, Judie
S: Adams, Moore, Carter, Bruton

Defense#26

Special Teams #3

FYP. Red doesn't make the team. Orange makes the team.

1. The Broncos are keeping Gronkowski. Elway said, we are going to use him in short yardage, and goal-line situations. Gronkowski said Manning always wanted a FB in Indy. You know how I feel about that, but there is too much evidence saying Gronk makes the team.

2. That means we don't have room for Moreno. I think he's traded before the season.

3. I don't see the Broncos keeping 5 DE's. The only way they sign Odom is if they cut Hunter.

4. It will hurt the Defense badly having Williams out. I could see the Broncos cutting him, but what a loss.

5. Thompson ran a 4.75 forty BEFORE he tore his achilles. The dude is toast. Judie is better by far.

ludo21
06-22-2012, 03:46 PM
Manning has a shot

ward63
06-22-2012, 06:40 PM
Manning has a shot

Is he PS eligible?

Mogulseeker
06-22-2012, 07:07 PM
My stab at the final 53

QB (3)
Manning
Hannie
Osweiler

RB (5)
Magahee
Hillman
Moreno
Fanin
Gronkowski (FB)

WR (5)
D Thomas
Decker
Stokley
A Caldwell
Page

TE (4)
Tamme
Dressen
J Thomas
V Green

OL (8)
Clady
Franklin
Kuper
Beadles
Blake
R Harris
Ramirez
Walton

DE (4)
Dumerville
Ayers
Hunter
M Jackson

DT (4)
Warren
Wolfe
Vickerson
Banan

LB (7)
D.J
Von
Mays
Woodyard
Irving
Steven Johnson
Travathan

CB (6)
Champ
Florence
Porter
C Harris
Bolden
Squid Thompson

(S)
Moore
Carter
M Adams
Bruton

PS
Ihenaco S
Remmers OT
G Robinson WR
Coryell CB
Blatnick DE
Silga DT
Tribue OG
J Franklin LB

I think someone like Franklin or Blatnik could start the season with the team to cover for DJ while he is suspended.

I like the list, but I think DJs days are numbered.

DBroncos4life
06-22-2012, 07:16 PM
FYP. Red doesn't make the team. Orange makes the team.

1. The Broncos are keeping Gronkowski. Elway said, we are going to use him in short yardage, and goal-line situations. Gronkowski said Manning always wanted a FB in Indy. You know how I feel about that, but there is too much evidence saying Gronk makes the team.

2. That means we don't have room for Moreno. I think he's traded before the season.

3. I don't see the Broncos keeping 5 DE's. The only way they sign Odom is if they cut Hunter.

4. It will hurt the Defense badly having Williams out. I could see the Broncos cutting him, but what a loss.

5. Thompson ran a 4.75 forty BEFORE he tore his achilles. The dude is toast. Judie is better by far.

They wouldn't need Hunter if we picked up Odom.

Bmore Manning
06-22-2012, 08:45 PM
I would rather have Earnest Graham than Gronkowski.. He's terrible, and will take a valuable roster spot. Graham brings a versatile skill set from FB.. But they will roll with that bum.. Here's to hoping they don't.

Vegas_Bronco
06-22-2012, 08:50 PM
We need a FB that can also catch the ball...behind the back one handed howard griffith style. It would be too much to try to cover a RB, FB, and 1TE-2WR/3 WR set with manning tossing the rock.

lonestar
06-22-2012, 10:20 PM
I like the list, but I think DJs days are numbered.

One can only hope..

I know for sure he will miss at least 37% of the games this year with a strong possibility of that being 50% when they tack on the DUI..

Might even get some jail time out of it..

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
06-22-2012, 10:59 PM
My pre-TC (of which I'll be going to) guess.

QB:3
1st.................................2nd........... ........................3rd
Peyton Manning................Hanie, Caleb.......................Osweiler, Brock

RB:4
McGahee, Willis ...............Hillman, Ronnie...................Fannin, Mario Moreno, Knowshon (Due to injury)

FB:1
Gronkowski, Chris

WR1:3
Thomas, Demaryius..........Caldwell, Andre.....................Page, Eric

WE2:2
Decker, Eric.....................Stokley, Brandon(slot)

TE:4
Dreessen, Joel..................Tamme, Jacob...................Thomas, Julius Green, Virgil

O-line:8

RT:
Harris, Ryan......................Franklin, Orlando

RG:
Kuper, Chris......................Blake, Philip

C:
Walton, J.D. .....................Blake, Philip

LG:
Franklin, Orland.................. Beadles, Zane

LT:
Clady, Ryan .......................Clark, Chris

Total:25

Defense:

LDE:3
Ayers, Robert.....................Jackson, Malik..................Hunter, Jason

UT:2
Warren, Ty.........................Wolfe, Derek (Nickel and Dime sub-package)

NT:2
Vickerson, Kevin..................Siliga, Sealver

RDE:2
Dumervil, Elvis ....................Blatnick, Jamie

LLB:1
Miller, Von .........................Johnson, Steven

MLB:2
Mays, Joe ...........................Johnson, Steven

RLB:3
Williams, D.J. .....................Woodyard, Wesley .................Trevathan, Danny

CB1:3
Bailey, Champ ....................Florence, Drayton(Nickel).............Bolden, Omar

CB2:3
Porter, Tracy .......................Harris, Chris (Dime)....................Judie, Coryell

FS:2
Adams, Mike .......................Moore, Rahim

SS:2
Carter, Quinton ....................Ihenacho, Duke (Big Nickel)

Total:25

Special Teams:3
LS:
Brewer, Aaron

K:
Prater, Matt

P:
Colquitt, Britton

R-Mac
06-23-2012, 12:34 AM
I doubt Caleb Hanie will enter the season as the #2 QB. I don't even think he should be on the roster. Brock Osweiler's "season" will be limited to training camp and preseason. He would get much more reps and playing time before the season if the Broncos were carrying 3 QBs. I have no idea how much Peyton Manning will play during preseason. He must finish his rehab and take care of his body, but he must also test this offense and his timing with the receivers. Anyway, once he goes to the bench, it will be a mess to split the remaining playing time among Hanie, Weber and Osweiler.

Hanie spent 4 seasons being developed by the Bears, and the result was a disastrous performance in 2011. I think the Broncos should take a good look at Weber and Osweiler during training camp and preseason, allowing them to share 2nd and 3rd team reps. Osweiler was drafted in the 2nd round, a big investment if you realize that Peyton Manning has a sense of urgency. He could have received more help from the 2012 draft. If Elway decided to sacrifice immediate impact to develop a QB of the future, then Osweiler should get plenty of reps before the regular season starts.

When you have 3 QBs behind the starter, it's hard to give a fair opportunity to all of them. Weber, as the #4 QB, threw 1 pass last preseason, in the 4th game. I would keep 3 QBs and carry Weber as the backup QB only if he can beat Osweiler, otherwise he should return to the practice squad, with Manning and Osweiler as the 2 QBs on the final roster.

ward63
06-23-2012, 09:59 AM
I would rather keep Weber as the 3rd and Osweiler as the 2nd string, but I don't see Elway cutting a guy that he just signed to a decent contract. JMO

Dexter
06-23-2012, 12:18 PM
Is it really stupid that'd I'm actually really excited to see Weber play in a pre-season game? He got to play for one drive last pre-season, and he almost drove it down the field in like 40 seconds or whatever it was.

I don't really ever expect him to be our franchise QB, but it may be really fun to see him and other young guys play their asses off for roster spots this pre-season.

Shananahan
06-23-2012, 12:58 PM
Osweiler should just develop a magical injury.

UltimateHoboW/Shotgun
06-23-2012, 02:14 PM
Osweiler should just develop a magical injury.

You do know if a player is on IR or any injury list that player is not allowed in the facility other than for rehab.

Broncos_OTM
06-23-2012, 04:09 PM
My stab at the final 53

QB (3)
Manning, Hannie, Osweiler

RB (5)
Magahee, Hillman, Moreno, Fanin
Gronkowski (FB)

WR (5)
D Thomas, A Caldwell
Decker, Page
Stokley

TE (4)
Tamme, J Thomas
Dressen, V Green

OL (8)
Clady, R Harris
Franklin
Kuper, Ramirez
Beadles
Blake, Walton

DE (4)
Dumerville, Hunter
Ayers, M Jackson

DT (4)
Warren, Vickerson
Wolfe, Bannan

LB (7)
SLB: D.J, Woodyard, Steven Johnson
WLB: Von, Travathan
MLB: Mays, Irving

CB (6)
Champ, Bolden
Florence, Porter, Squid Thompson
Slot: C Harris

(S)
Moore, Carter
M Adams, Bruton

ST: Prater, Paxton, Colquitt

PS
Ihenaco S
Remmers OT
G Robinson WR
Coryell CB
Blatnick DE
Silga DT
Tribue OG
J Franklin LB

I think someone like Franklin or Blatnik could start the season with the team to cover for DJ while he is suspended.

Silga will make the roster imo, one more lineman less lbs... also i think we carry 3 tes one more wr

ward63
06-23-2012, 04:14 PM
Silga will make the roster imo, one more lineman less lbs... also i think we carry 3 tes one more wr

No way we only carry 3 tight ends if all 4 of them are healthy. Pretty decent money to Dreesen and Tamme. Green and Thomas are in their second year.

briane
06-23-2012, 08:09 PM
I think colquitt may have the punter position locked up.

Bigdawg26
06-23-2012, 09:29 PM
QB: Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
RB: McGahee, Hillman, Moreno, Fanin
WR: DT, Decker, Stokely, Caldwell, Page
TE: Tamme, Thomas, Green
TE/FB: Dreesen
OLine: Clady T, Franklin T, Harris T, Kuper G, Beadles G, Ramirez G, Blake C/G, Walton C

Offense# 24

DE: Doom, Ayers, Jackson, Odom, Hunter
DT: Warren, Wolfe, Siliga, Bannan, Vickerson
LB: Miller, Mays, Woodyard, Trevathan, Irving, Johnson
CB: Champ, Porter, Florence, Bolden, Harris, Thompson
S: Adams, Moore, Carter, Bruton

Defense#26

Special Teams #3

Take Mareno out and add Jeremiah Johnson and I like it.

lonestar
06-23-2012, 09:44 PM
Take Mareno out and add Jeremiah Johnson and I like it.

do not have a Mareno on the team..

Vegas_Bronco
06-23-2012, 09:54 PM
do not have a Mareno on the team..

Nomar Marino

lonestar
06-23-2012, 09:58 PM
Nomar Marino

did you mean No more Marino or No Show Marino..:thumbs:

JCMElway
06-23-2012, 10:35 PM
or maybe Foneco.

Boomhauer
06-24-2012, 03:38 AM
Rather than the whole ball of wax, I'll break this down by position. Only after debate, the start of preseason and a better idea of our offensive and defensive strategy will I make a 53-man roster recommendation and speculation.

QB
Peyton -- Weber -- Oswalt
Manning is deffinitely our starter, but the #2 is iffy. I really think Weber is ready and could be our "QB of the future", but the FO also brought in Hanie. I'm guessing Hanie is the fallback if Weber doesn't perform and the FO trys to hide him on the P-Squad another year. There's nothing to make me think Brock will be anything more than a bust, spending a few years with a clipboard and out of the league.

RB
I have to break this down into three roles;
RB = Fannin -- Johnson -- Hillman
HB = Fannin -- McGahee
FB = Sylvester -- McGahee
The best all-around RB, with power, speed, blocking, receiving, etc on our roster is Fannin. McGahee doesn't have the quickness and speed to be a number one and hasn't for years, but he is a good backup for the inside or blocking game. I wouldn't be surprised if he's cut.
Our best receiving and outside threat, and also a good pass blocker and inside runner, is Johnson. The best tandem for us this year is him and Fannin. Watching Hillman in college, it will be years before he's anything more than a K/PR, but could offer situational dynamic play. If he hadn't been drafted, I'd guarantee he'd be on the P-Squad or gone because of his lack of ability.
At fullback, Sylvester is far better than Gronkowski in all aspects; run blocking, pass blocking, running and receiving.

TE
Thomas, Dreessen, Tamme, Green
I could see Julius and Joel being a 1a and 1b, with Dreessen in on running down, Thomas in on passing downs and outside in 2TE sets. Tamme is just a receiving TE and would be Thomas' backup while Green remains a project. If Dreessen gets hurt, we could always replace him with a fatty lineman like last season.

Boomhauer
06-24-2012, 04:01 AM
WR
I've already grouped these in desending ability
1: Andre Caldwell - 6'0" 190
1: D'Andre Goodwin - 5'11" 188
1: Eric Decker - 6'3" 218
1: Mark Dell - 6'2" 195

2: Jason Hill (KR) - 6'0" 202
2: Greg Orton - 6'3" 199
2: Eric Page (KR) - 5'9" 186

3: Gerell Robinson - 6'3" 229
3: Matthew Willis (KR) - 6'0" 190

Cut: Brandon Stokley - 6'0" 192
Cut: Demaryius Thomas - 6'3" 229
Cut: Tyler Grisham - 5'11" 180

In the 1s we have two very fast, but smallish receivers with great hands and two larger, slower, heady receivers. It's up to Manning what type he wants at slot and outside - ie; Caldwell and Decker outside or Caldwell and Goodwin outside with Decker or Julius Thomas inside.

In the 2s we need to keep a prospective KR as well as another large target. In the speed category I've ranked it Hill - Page and Willis (3s), but this could easily change come preseason. In the size category Orton looked OK last season while Dell in the 1s looked excellent, but I have questions about Gerell's play (3s).

Cut are guys that can't play football. Stokley knows the game and would be a good emergency mid-season signing, but not a 53-man candidate. Thomas sucks, always has and will. If we can find some saps that will take him in trade, the FO should jump even if it's for a 6th or conditional. Not sure why Grisham got invited to camp.

ward63
06-24-2012, 05:50 AM
WR
I've already grouped these in desending ability
1: Andre Caldwell - 6'0" 190
1: D'Andre Goodwin - 5'11" 188
1: Eric Decker - 6'3" 218
1: Mark Dell - 6'2" 195

2: Jason Hill (KR) - 6'0" 202
2: Greg Orton - 6'3" 199
2: Eric Page (KR) - 5'9" 186

3: Gerell Robinson - 6'3" 229
3: Matthew Willis (KR) - 6'0" 190

Cut: Brandon Stokley - 6'0" 192
Cut: Demaryius Thomas - 6'3" 229
Cut: Tyler Grisham - 5'11" 180

In the 1s we have two very fast, but smallish receivers with great hands and two larger, slower, heady receivers. It's up to Manning what type he wants at slot and outside - ie; Caldwell and Decker outside or Caldwell and Goodwin outside with Decker or Julius Thomas inside.

In the 2s we need to keep a prospective KR as well as another large target. In the speed category I've ranked it Hill - Page and Willis (3s), but this could easily change come preseason. In the size category Orton looked OK last season while Dell in the 1s looked excellent, but I have questions about Gerell's play (3s).

Cut are guys that can't play football. Stokley knows the game and would be a good emergency mid-season signing, but not a 53-man candidate. Thomas sucks, always has and will. If we can find some saps that will take him in trade, the FO should jump even if it's for a 6th or conditional. Not sure why Grisham got invited to camp.

Thankfully you do not run this team! Cutting Demaryius would be the dumbest thing we could do at WR. D'andre Goodwin is our #2 WR?! You're out of your mind

JCMElway
06-24-2012, 06:40 AM
I have to say Boom, I disagree on Demaryius as well. I think he's gonna do great things with Peyton. But, you will have the opportunity to repost this if he blows.

Shananahan
06-24-2012, 09:32 AM
Boomhauer is a gimmick, guys. He's trolling you.

DBroncos4life
06-24-2012, 09:39 AM
Boomhauer is a gimmick, guys. He's trolling you.

This.

ward63
06-24-2012, 12:32 PM
I would hope that he is. To say that Thomas will get cut is beyond dumb. I do hope Weber beats out Hanie.

Cito Pelon
06-24-2012, 01:29 PM
I would hope that he is. To say that Thomas will get cut is beyond dumb. I do hope Weber beats out Hanie.

I can't see Hanie making the final roster. He was signed to a non-guaranteed no bonus deal IIRC. He was signed just for insurance in case they didn't get a chance to grab Osweiler who they had targeted from the get go in round two.

They wanted to cover all the bases just in case they got scooped by some other team and couldn't draft Osweiler.

DBroncos4life
06-24-2012, 01:52 PM
I would hope that he is. To say that Thomas will get cut is beyond dumb. I do hope Weber beats out Hanie.

Also how he thinks McGahee will be cut as well Hilarious!

I too think Hanie won't make the team unless he just plays lights out during preseason. I will say from what little video I seen so far of Manning, you can see Hanie throwing some damn nice passes as well. Personally I would be happy with Hanie netting a 6th rounder after preseason and us only keeping two QB's on the active roster with Weber going to the PS again.

ward63
06-24-2012, 02:07 PM
I didn't know that Hanie didn't get a signing bonus. If that's the case, I hope that we just let him lose. I really hope that Weber can be a career-Bronco as a back-up. As for McGahee getting cut, he is the best RB Peyton has had possibly since Edge IMO. I wonder what Boom's D looks like.

Shananahan
06-24-2012, 02:54 PM
I wonder what Boom's D looks like.
He has them resigning Kyle McCarthy and then cloning him to play the entire secondary.

Boomhauer
06-24-2012, 07:20 PM
Also how he thinks McGahee will be cut as well.
Thankfully you do not run this team! You're out of your mind
Boomhauer is a gimmick, guys. He's trolling you.

Your insinuations that sucking azz for years (aka; constant cheerleading of crapfests) as the best course is "trolling".

Better is better, but the blind cannot tell, only follow the loudest chant.

bowtown
06-24-2012, 07:38 PM
He has them resigning Kyle McCarthy and then cloning him to play the entire secondary.

And LB will be entirely manned by Mike Mohamed.

DBroncos4life
06-24-2012, 07:52 PM
Your insinuations that sucking azz for years (aka; constant cheerleading of crapfests) as the best course is "trolling".

Better is better, but the blind cannot tell, only follow the loudest chant.

Care to bet that McGahee or Thomas are not cut?

ward63
06-25-2012, 07:14 AM
So cutting (arguably) our best WR and RB is going to make this "crapfest" team better? Makes sense to me...Neither will be cut, "BOOK IT" (Jay Phorah as Stephen A. Smith)

Pendejo
06-25-2012, 07:31 AM
He has them resigning Kyle McCarthy and then cloning him to play the entire secondary.

Why would they need to clone him?

oubronco
06-25-2012, 07:37 AM
LOL at cutting Thomas and MacGahee

barryr
06-25-2012, 08:12 AM
Nice prediction, looks pretty accurate IMO. Hanie probably does stick just because he's a veteran, but Weber has more potential IMO. At least he hasn't shown he isn't very good to this point, but he may land on the PS.

Fannin will be someone to keep track of. He could be interesting for sure, providing he shows he can hang onto the ball better. Moreno making it out of preseason healthy would be a story in itself. He can help in the passing game, but can he stay healthy?

I'm just no fan of DJ Williams, but he may stay another year anyway.

The roster looks deeper than in years past and hopefully, more depth on defense will prove out.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-25-2012, 10:13 AM
I know Boomhauer trolls, but I still find it funny that he puts so much stock in two players he's never watched play (Fannin/Weber)

DENVERDUI55
12-31-2012, 06:30 AM
WR
I've already grouped these in desending ability
1: Andre Caldwell - 6'0" 190
1: D'Andre Goodwin - 5'11" 188
1: Eric Decker - 6'3" 218
1: Mark Dell - 6'2" 195

2: Jason Hill (KR) - 6'0" 202
2: Greg Orton - 6'3" 199
2: Eric Page (KR) - 5'9" 186

3: Gerell Robinson - 6'3" 229
3: Matthew Willis (KR) - 6'0" 190

Cut: Brandon Stokley - 6'0" 192
Cut: Demaryius Thomas - 6'3" 229
Cut: Tyler Grisham - 5'11" 180

In the 1s we have two very fast, but smallish receivers with great hands and two larger, slower, heady receivers. It's up to Manning what type he wants at slot and outside - ie; Caldwell and Decker outside or Caldwell and Goodwin outside with Decker or Julius Thomas inside.

In the 2s we need to keep a prospective KR as well as another large target. In the speed category I've ranked it Hill - Page and Willis (3s), but this could easily change come preseason. In the size category Orton looked OK last season while Dell in the 1s looked excellent, but I have questions about Gerell's play (3s).

Cut are guys that can't play football. Stokley knows the game and would be a good emergency mid-season signing, but not a 53-man candidate. Thomas sucks, always has and will. If we can find some saps that will take him in trade, the FO should jump even if it's for a 6th or conditional. Not sure why Grisham got invited to camp.

Where has this dip**** been?

Requiem
12-31-2012, 06:33 AM
^ He asked for his account to be deleted. Boomie was a loser of epic proportions.

DENVERDUI55
12-31-2012, 07:42 AM
^ He asked for his account to be deleted. Boomie was a loser of epic proportions.

He is probably back under a different name.