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spdirty
06-15-2012, 08:01 PM
Just saw a movie with Eva Mendes called "Live!" about a TV Producer that starts a show that has 6 contestants play Russian Roulette 5 of the contestants get 5 mil 1 dies. Really weird dark movie. But it started a discussion with us. So I wanted to put the question out here. Would you do it?

baja
06-15-2012, 08:02 PM
Are you serious?

BroncoMan4ever
06-15-2012, 08:03 PM
Watch 13. Similar premise but only 1 survivor

baja
06-15-2012, 08:07 PM
Only if I could go last. If nobody died by the time it was my turn I'd say forget about it.

spdirty
06-15-2012, 08:11 PM
Only if I could go last. If nobody died by the time it was my turn I'd say forget about it.

Maybe maybe not. Your turn and order is decided by a lottery system.

baja
06-15-2012, 08:13 PM
Maybe maybe not. Your turn and order is decided by a lottery system.

Than no F'en way.

Ratboy
06-15-2012, 08:24 PM
I'd suck a dick for 5 million dollars.

What? Everyone has their price.

Cmac821
06-15-2012, 08:30 PM
where do I sign up!?

Man-Goblin
06-15-2012, 08:32 PM
Like, after taxes? And would my wife be in a good mood that morning or not?

BroncoInSkinland
06-15-2012, 08:33 PM
5 mil isn't enough, it would cover me comfortably for life, but not my entire family. Also I would want the payout live or die, money going to my wife in the event I was the unlucky one.

spdirty
06-15-2012, 08:35 PM
I'd do a lot of stuff for 5 mil but right now, with where I am in my life, being happy as ever in my personal life, I couldn't risk it. 5-10 years ago yeah, maybe 5 years from now, after Manning retires, but right now no.

spdirty
06-15-2012, 08:37 PM
5 mil isn't enough, it would cover me comfortably for life, but not my entire family. Also I would want the payout live or die, money going to my wife in the event I was the unlucky one.

The movie said 5 mil for the 5 winners, the loser and his family get nothing. But if it were on live TV and the family was bad enough off, I reckon they'd rack up plenty of money in donations.

Kaylore
06-15-2012, 08:53 PM
No. My life, and my presence to my wife and child are worth more than five million dollars.

SouthStndJunkie
06-15-2012, 09:03 PM
No way....I'd pimp my ass and mouth out for enough cash....but you only live once and I don't need money so bad that I'd take a high percentage chance that I'd blow my head off.

JPPT1974
06-15-2012, 09:05 PM
Sorry I love my life way too much!

Lestat
06-15-2012, 09:07 PM
sure, if i got to be the man to load the gun and spin it before it gets shot.
otherwise, hell and no.

DBroncos4life
06-15-2012, 09:09 PM
Only if I get to go last.

Cito Pelon
06-15-2012, 09:10 PM
I'd play a poker hand for that price, but not Russian Roullette.

And it's pretty telling about Russian society that there is a game called "Russian Roullette".

Bacchus
06-15-2012, 09:36 PM
Well, the odds are in your favor

Bacchus
06-15-2012, 09:37 PM
And it's pretty telling about Russian society that there is a game called "Russian Roullette".

The game goes great with Russian vodka

BroncoMan4ever
06-15-2012, 09:39 PM
Depends. Is this a 1 in 6 chance for each individual? Meaning 6 different guns? Or 1 gun and each person passes a loaded gun person to person until someone paints a wall with brain matter?

Cmac821
06-15-2012, 10:12 PM
Depends. Is this a 1 in 6 chance for each individual? Meaning 6 different guns? Or 1 gun and each person passes a loaded gun person to person until someone paints a wall with brain matter?

For the record if it is done where every person is handed a new gun I'm out but still down for the "take one down and pass it around' style

broncocalijohn
06-15-2012, 10:32 PM
Why not? Sounds like fun times.

BroncoMan4ever
06-15-2012, 10:43 PM
For the record if it is done where every person is handed a new gun I'm out but still down for the "take one down and pass it around' style

i think the opposite way. 1 in 6 chance for each person means i have roughly a 16.6% chance of blowing a new hole in my head. with the pass it around style the person who goes 1st has the best odds at 16.6% that he takes a bullet. each following person's odds of blowing their head off increases drastically. person 2 has a 33% chance, person 3 is 50/50, person 4 is 67% likely, person 5 is 84% until you potentially reach 100% certainty with the final person. unless you go first it would be theoretically safer to be in a situation where 6 different people have their own gun with 1 bullet.

Archer81
06-15-2012, 10:49 PM
No.

I have enough to explain to God to add I blew my brains out for 5 mil. I think that would be too much.

:Broncos:

Cmac821
06-15-2012, 10:57 PM
i think the opposite way. 1 in 6 chance for each person means i have roughly a 16.6% chance of blowing a new hole in my head. with the pass it around style the person who goes 1st has the best odds at 16.6% that he takes a bullet. each following person's odds of blowing their head off increases drastically. person 2 has a 33% chance, person 3 is 50/50, person 4 is 67% likely, person 5 is 84% until you potentially reach 100% certainty with the final person. unless you go first it would be theoretically safer to be in a situation where 6 different people have their own gun with 1 bullet.

makes sense, but something seems different about being handed a new gun each time. But as long as you're not near the end it should be alright

baja
06-15-2012, 11:00 PM
What if it was 5 mil to cut your right arm off?

Spider
06-15-2012, 11:16 PM
Hell no ,But I would have got in the ring with Mike Tyson in his prime for 5mill....just kick him in the nuts call his mom a whore and run like hell for 12 rounds

myMind
06-15-2012, 11:26 PM
Needs more cowbell?

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8718/deerhunter.gif

The answer is no.

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SoCalBronco
06-15-2012, 11:33 PM
Never.

El Jué
06-16-2012, 12:56 AM
For money? No. I can't imagine doing it for something as worthless as money.

I'd have to be threatened with the death of someone I love to participate.

Stuck in Cali
06-16-2012, 01:07 AM
Nope.

Archer81
06-16-2012, 02:28 AM
Hell no ,But I would have got in the ring with Mike Tyson in his prime for 5mill....just kick him in the nuts call his mom a whore and run like hell for 12 rounds


This assumes that Tyson would stop trying to kill you when the bell rings.


:Broncos:

cutthemdown
06-16-2012, 03:22 AM
I'd suck a dick for 5 million dollars.

What? Everyone has their price.

who wouldn't :):rofl:

cmhargrove
06-16-2012, 05:11 AM
Is there maybe a "Taiwanese Roulette" option with a bb gun?

rmsanger
06-16-2012, 05:32 AM
Nope I've already got the trifecta:

Good job
Pretty wife
65" Plasma screen

What else could $5M buy me that would do any good?

errand
06-16-2012, 05:33 AM
I'd suck a dick for 5 million dollars.

What? Everyone has their price.

I'm guessing you think you can buy a lot of mouthwash for$5 million....lol

The only problem you would have is you can paint 1000 pictures and never once be called an artist..... but if you suck 1 dick...well.... you know what you will be called for the rest of your life

broncogary
06-16-2012, 05:45 AM
I'm guessing you think you can buy a lot of mouthwash for$5 million....lol

The only problem you would have is you can paint 1000 pictures and never once be called an artist..... but if you suck 1 dick...well.... you know what you will be called for the rest of your life

I think that's the smartest thing errand's ever said. :thumbs:

HAT
06-16-2012, 07:17 AM
This thread needs Oleg....

:pimp:

Jason in LA
06-16-2012, 07:44 AM
I wouldn't do it. My life is great and I don't have $5 million.

As for going last, would that make a difference? Wouldn't they spin the barrel of the gun after each attempt, so one person's chance isn't dependent on anybody else? So in theory multiple people could die, or nobody.

Hamrob
06-16-2012, 08:10 AM
Hell no!

$5m is not what it used to be.

If you speak with a retirement advisor, they will tell you to expect a 4% return on your savings amount...on average.

$5m x 4% = $200k annually.

That's nice comfortable annual living...but, not worth my life!

Plus....you'd have to put the full $5m into your retirement account, to get that amount...no million dollar home, cars, vacation house...etc.

Just $200k/yr. Hell no!

broncocalijohn
06-16-2012, 08:12 AM
What if it was 5 mil to cut your right arm off?

I am left handed so that wouldnt be as big as a problem. But out of respect for righties and the middle ease countries, I wipe with my right hand. Maybe you should ask those that lost their dominate arm if they would buy back their perfectly fine right arm for $5 million. I am sure almost all would want it back.

chadta
06-16-2012, 08:17 AM
I am left handed

i knew there was something wrong with you.

broncocalijohn
06-16-2012, 08:22 AM
i knew there was something wrong with you.

Hey, we are the only ones in our right mind. We are unique and not different. But, lefties rarely live to be 100 like their counterparts. As a male and a lefty, my time on earth is limited. But, we do make the most of time we have on Earth.

Requiem
06-16-2012, 08:32 AM
I would do it for a trip to Bangkok.

Spider
06-16-2012, 08:33 AM
This assumes that Tyson would stop trying to kill you when the bell rings.


:Broncos:

:rofl:

baja
06-16-2012, 08:35 AM
I am left handed so that wouldnt be as big as a problem. But out of respect for righties and the middle ease countries, I wipe with my right hand. Maybe you should ask those that lost their dominate arm if they would buy back their perfectly fine right arm for $5 million. I am sure almost all would want it back.

Only barbarians wipe their ass with toilet paper. get yourself a bidet and enjoy the freshness of a clean butt.

BowlenBall
06-16-2012, 08:36 AM
i think the opposite way. 1 in 6 chance for each person means i have roughly a 16.6% chance of blowing a new hole in my head. with the pass it around style the person who goes 1st has the best odds at 16.6% that he takes a bullet. each following person's odds of blowing their head off increases drastically. person 2 has a 33% chance, person 3 is 50/50, person 4 is 67% likely, person 5 is 84% until you potentially reach 100% certainty with the final person. unless you go first it would be theoretically safer to be in a situation where 6 different people have their own gun with 1 bullet.

Nice reasoning, but the math is a little off:

Person 1: 1/6 chance (16.7%)
Person 2: 1/5 chance (20%)
Person 3: 1/4 chance (25%)
Person 4: 1/3 chance (33.3%)
Person 5: 1/2 chance (50%)
Person 6: 1/1 chance (100%)

baja
06-16-2012, 08:44 AM
I would do it for a trip to Bangkok.


Flight to Bangkok = $900 (if you shop around)

Hotel (****) = $65 a day

Food = $25 a day

Companionship = $30 to $100 (depending)


You can go for a few grand. I highly recommend it.

baja
06-16-2012, 08:48 AM
Nice reasoning, but the math is a little off:

Person 1: 1/6 chance (16.7%)
Person 2: 1/5 chance (20%)
Person 3: 1/4 chance (25%)
Person 4: 1/3 chance (33.3%)
Person 5: 1/2 chance (50%)
Person 6: 1/1 chance (100%)

Russian Roulette is played by every person spinning the cylinder so the odds are the same for everyone (16.7%)

Requiem
06-16-2012, 08:49 AM
Flight to Bangkok = $900 (if you shop around)

Hotel (****) = $65 a day

Food = $25 a day

Companionship = $30 to $100 (depending)


You can go for a few grand. I highly recommend it.

I have a friend and she is traveling across the globe for her studies and doing a big campaign on combating child trafficking and trying to raise ~ 20k. I'm doing the web development and web design for her cause, and she said once my contract is over October 1st, that she would find a way to get me out to Asia (where she will be most of the time). I will easily be able to afford it, but if I can stay with her that would be cool. :D

baja
06-16-2012, 09:06 AM
I have a friend and she is traveling across the globe for her studies and doing a big campaign on combating child trafficking and trying to raise ~ 20k. I'm doing the web development and web design for her cause, and she said once my contract is over October 1st, that she would find a way to get me out to Asia (where she will be most of the time). I will easily be able to afford it, but if I can stay with her that would be cool. :D

I hope you get to go. It's an amazing experience.

Food is off the charts good and almost free.

People are very friendly

Find a cabbie you like and hire him by the day (about $60) and have him take you sight seeing.

You can get incredible Tai massages for about 6 to 10 dollars (not the 'happy ending' kind but those are available for about $45 to $100.

If you need any medical procedure it will cost about 1/4 what it would cost in the US. and on the highest quality.

Punisher
06-16-2012, 09:19 AM
where do I sign up!?

lol this sign me up to

Cmac821
06-16-2012, 11:45 AM
lol this sign me up to

I realize I'm not a married with kids guy like most who have responded. So with no dependents or career I think a shot at 5 million would be cool (pun intended)

spdirty
06-16-2012, 01:28 PM
I realize I'm not a married with kids guy like most who have responded. So with no dependents or career I think a shot at 5 million would be cool (pun intended)

Yeah 10 years ago I'd do it. But I bet if I did it now even if I won my wife would divorce me for being stupid.

Can't imagine the rush you'd get doing that. Either 5 mil in your account or you won't even know if you lose. I don't think any kind of drug would surpass that rush.

BTW, the poll is based on the cylinder not being spun. So your odds of losing increase each time. And the turns are decided by a lottery.

baja
06-16-2012, 01:41 PM
Yeah 10 years ago I'd do it. But I bet if I did it now even if I won my wife would divorce me for being stupid.

Can't imagine the rush you'd get doing that. Either 5 mil in your account or you won't even know if you lose. I don't think any kind of drug would surpass that rush.

BTW, the poll is based on the cylinder not being spun. So your odds of losing increase each time. And the turns are decided by a lottery.

She might but I bet she wouldn't pass on her 2.5 mil.

errand
06-16-2012, 02:00 PM
Only if i had a terminal illness....win win..either way you're gonna die soon enough...and if you don't you got $5 mil to set you kids, spouse, whomever up for when you do die...or you could take a hell of a bucket list trip and do everything you wanted to do before you die...you know like sky diving, rocky mountain climbing, 2.8 seconds on a bull named Fu Manchu...etc...

Cmac821
06-16-2012, 02:08 PM
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Either 5 mil in your account or you won't even know if you lose. I don't think any kind of drug would surpass that rush.

BTW, the poll is based on the cylinder not being spun. So your odds of losing increase each time. And the turns are decided by a lottery.

That makes it little more interesting, hate to be the last guy and gun hasn't gone off yet. Are you blindfolded or anything where you can't see the other contestants?

broncocalijohn
06-16-2012, 02:32 PM
That makes it little more interesting, hate to be the last guy and gun hasn't gone off yet. Are you blindfolded or anything where you can't see the other contestants?

That is where I turn the gun on whoever set up the deal. Wasnt there a movie with 2 Vietnam prisoner of war playing that game and the guy had to pull the trigger on himself but instead did it sideways and hit the viet cong dude?

Taco John
06-16-2012, 02:38 PM
$5 million dollars isn't going to do much for my family but cause problems after I've been cremated and spread to the winds. No way would I take the chance.

NFLBRONCO
06-16-2012, 02:57 PM
I'd do it if I got a mulligan.

peacepipe
06-16-2012, 03:20 PM
That is where I turn the gun on whoever set up the deal. Wasnt there a movie with 2 Vietnam prisoner of war playing that game and the guy had to pull the trigger on himself but instead did it sideways and hit the viet cong dude?yeah with deniro & ??? it's deer hunter I believe

spdirty
06-16-2012, 05:58 PM
That makes it little more interesting, hate to be the last guy and gun hasn't gone off yet. Are you blindfolded or anything where you can't see the other contestants?

You see them. If you're the last one and it hasn't gone off yet I'd imagine you'd just say "awe shucks, no thanks. All the checks are gone and I'd rather walk out of here with my life than pray for the very slim chance of a misfire."

Punisher
06-16-2012, 07:19 PM
I realize I'm not a married with kids guy like most who have responded. So with no dependents or career I think a shot at 5 million would be cool (pun intended)

Just think about 5 mill can start off a Great Porn business as well, lay down a few stocks here and there next thing you know 5 mill turns into 10 mill

Cmac821
06-16-2012, 08:03 PM
You see them. If you're the last one and it hasn't gone off yet I'd imagine you'd just say "awe shucks, no thanks. All the checks are gone and I'd rather walk out of here with my life than pray for the very slim chance of a misfire."

Well that's a damper, I guess I would be cheering against the people ahead of me

spdirty
06-16-2012, 09:47 PM
Well that's a damper, I guess I would be cheering against the people ahead of me

Well in the movie the 5th guy lost and the 6th guy didn't even have to pull the trigger. He just got his money.

baja
06-16-2012, 10:03 PM
Seventeen people voted 'yes' to risk death by their own hand for money. I wonder how many, when it came right down to it, would actually pull the trigger. My guess is zero.

myMind
06-16-2012, 10:16 PM
That is where I turn the gun on whoever set up the deal. Wasnt there a movie with 2 Vietnam prisoner of war playing that game and the guy had to pull the trigger on himself but instead did it sideways and hit the viet cong dude?

Deerhunter indeed.

Needs more cowbell?

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8718/deerhunter.gif

The answer is no.

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pricejj
06-16-2012, 10:42 PM
5 mil is like what...1/2 a tank of gas?

Pick Six
06-17-2012, 01:07 AM
I'd suck a dick for 5 million dollars.

What? Everyone has their price.

That's different. You get to live, in that scenario. So what if people make fun of you? You're RICH...:thumbsup:

broncolife
06-17-2012, 02:00 AM
That's different. You get to live, in that scenario. So what if people make fun of you? You're RICH...:thumbsup:

I dont know about that, a 40 year old virgin might have the same effect as a gun.

Dr. Broncenstein
06-17-2012, 04:07 AM
If you can honestly say yes, 5 million dollars isn't going to fix your problems.

Willynowei
06-17-2012, 06:28 AM
If you are an even mildly risk adverse person and at all logical, you would have to vote "No" here.

You are roughly receiving an 83% chance at 5 million dollars in exchange for a 17% chance at death. The estimated value of the game of roulette in dollar terms is .83*5million= 4.15 million.

The estimated value you are placing on your life and everything in it, the grief and love of your family and everyone who you affect is equal to 4.15million*6 = 24.9million dollars*(1-[your age/your max age])

Do you really think your life from beginning to end is worth less than Floyd Mayweather's yearly earnings?

Think about that for a second. Your life, your family, your kids, now think of Floyd Mayweather's face laughing at you with money coming out his pockets.

Still want to play that game?

If you say yes, you are simply risk seeking or illogical, or just really ****ing stupid, sorry.

Willynowei
06-17-2012, 06:34 AM
This thread makes me think about all the 1-night stands I've had where I used the "pull-out" method. If you think about how much you're risking you realize how really ****ing stupid you are...

chickennob2
06-17-2012, 07:06 AM
i think the opposite way. 1 in 6 chance for each person means i have roughly a 16.6% chance of blowing a new hole in my head. with the pass it around style the person who goes 1st has the best odds at 16.6% that he takes a bullet. each following person's odds of blowing their head off increases drastically. person 2 has a 33% chance, person 3 is 50/50, person 4 is 67% likely, person 5 is 84% until you potentially reach 100% certainty with the final person. unless you go first it would be theoretically safer to be in a situation where 6 different people have their own gun with 1 bullet.

Wrong wrong wrong.

Person 1: 1/6 chance of death
Person 2: (5/6) * (1/5) = 1/6 chance of death
Person 3: (4/6) * (1/4) = 1/6 chance of death
Person 4: (3/6) * (1/3) = 1/6 chance of death
Person 5: (2/6) * (1/2) = 1/6 chance of death
Person 5: 1/6 chance of death

The second person has a 1 in 5 chance of the bullet being in their chamber, but only if it wasn't already in the first person's chamber. For the third person, there's a 1 in 4 chance the bullet's in their chamber, but only if the first two people survived. So, from a clean starting point, your chance of death is the same whether you play with one gun or six different guns. But as you progress through the one gun scenario, you acquire more information, and, provided no one has died yet, your odds are worse.

Meck77
06-17-2012, 07:35 AM
Ok this thread is just jacked up. Contemplating your life for money and to the poster who considered selling himself to the opposite sex? WTF.....



DR...I'm with you. There is no amount of money that will buy your happiness if you aren't happy right now.

Had a good friend accidentally blow his head off handling a pistol. He even taught gun safety courses. He was only 20 or so at the time. If given the chance I seriously doubt he would risk his life to a pistol for 1 Billion dollars.

Bob Marley "Your life is worth much more than gold".

BroncoMan4ever
06-17-2012, 08:45 AM
That's different. You get to live, in that scenario. So what if people make fun of you? You're RICH...:thumbsup:

True but in telling every person who asks how you got your money, saying I won it by winning a round of russian roulette sounds so much better than saying I smoked some dude's hog. Plus the ass you pull in by being a badass by playing russian roulette is better than the man ass you will be relegated to if you blow a guy. Because it doesn't matter how many ladies fields you have plowed, you smoke 1 pole and you are gay.

BroncoMan4ever
06-17-2012, 08:48 AM
Ok this thread is just jacked up. Contemplating your life for money and to the poster who considered selling himself to the opposite sex? WTF.....



DR...I'm with you. There is no amount of money that will buy your happiness if you aren't happy right now.

Had a good friend accidentally blow his head off handling a pistol. He even taught gun safety courses. He was only 20 or so at the time. If given the chance I seriously doubt he would risk his life to a pistol for 1 Billion dollars.

Bob Marley "Your life is worth much more than gold".

I disagree. 5 million would make me happy. I currently work about 70 hours a week just to pay bills and am miserable. 5 million and a normal work week with no pressing money needs would make me happy

Dr. Broncenstein
06-17-2012, 08:55 AM
I disagree. 5 million would make me happy. I currently work about 70 hours a week just to pay bills and am miserable. 5 million and a normal work week with no pressing money needs would make me happy

The same decision making that put you into your position would not be fixed with 5 million dollars. See just about every single lotto winner...

baja
06-17-2012, 09:06 AM
I disagree. 5 million would make me happy. I currently work about 70 hours a week just to pay bills and am miserable. 5 million and a normal work week with no pressing money needs would make me happy

The only thing that can 'make' you happy is you and it does not cost one red cent.

baja
06-17-2012, 09:11 AM
Would you endure a Rodney King type beating for 3.8 million dollars?

RIP Rodney King.

DENVERDUI55
06-17-2012, 10:26 AM
Would you endure a Rodney King type beating for 3.8 million dollars?

RIP Rodney King.

Yes and if I was a POS like Rodney with his criminal history I would jump at that opportunity.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/lapd/kingarrests.html

BroncoMan4ever
06-17-2012, 12:28 PM
The same decision making that put you into your position would not be fixed with 5 million dollars. See just about every single lotto winner...

Student loans for use in a great job, that led to my buying a house only to have the economy tank and get laid off is what hit me. I am not one of those idiots who made poor decisions and ****ed themselves over. I didn't go out and buy cars and bling and stretch beyond my means. I got screwed out of a job, and had and still have people depending on me for shelter, food and other essential items to live. So I work my ass off to keep the house I cant afford, insurance so my girl and our soon to arrive baby are happy healthy and taken care of. 5 million would instantly end my troubles. The idea that poor decisions put me where I am is bull****. I should be the happiest I have ever been with a girl who loves me having my first kid, but I am so burnt out and stressed working and going to interviews to provide For my family that I cant enjoy anything.

Majik
06-17-2012, 12:33 PM
I'd suck a dick for 5 million dollars.

What? Everyone has their price.

Just saw a movie with Eva Mendes called "Live!" about a TV Producer that starts a show that has 6 contestants play Russian Roulette 5 of the contestants get 5 mil 1 dies.

So you would suck a dick on live TV for all your friends, family, and coworkers to see?

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-17-2012, 01:46 PM
All these feel good posts about happiness not costing anything are great and all, but you cannot survive or provide for your family without money. Plain and simple. Money IS a direct result of everything around you.

baja
06-17-2012, 01:52 PM
All these feel good posts about happiness not costing anything are great and all, but you cannot survive or provide for your family without money. Plain and simple. Money IS a direct result of everything around you.

We all know or have read about people with more money than they can spend that are so unhappy they kill themselves. You can't buy happiness that is the message I see most here giving to those that would risk offing themselves for money.

When I first saw this thread I thought well this will go the way of other ridiculous threads, who knew we would have 20 posters that are so miserable they would risk death for the chance at some money.

things are pretty F ucked up right now.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-17-2012, 02:14 PM
We all know or have read about people with more money than they can spend that are so unhappy they kill themselves. You can't buy happiness that is the message I see most here giving to those that would risk offing themselves for money.

When I first saw this thread I thought well this will go the way of other ridiculous threads, who knew we would have 20 posters that are so miserable they would risk death for the chance at some money.

things are pretty F ucked up right now.


Ya there are a lot of rich people that kill themselves. But throughout their lives they got to fall asleep in a warm bed with a full stomach in a big house. You can have all the happiness in the world but that all goes away when you feel REAL starvation.

baja
06-17-2012, 02:18 PM
Ya there are a lot of rich people that kill themselves. But throughout their lives they got to fall asleep in a warm bed with a full stomach in a big house. You can have all the happiness in the world but that all goes away when you feel REAL starvation.

I know more than a few dirt poor people here in Baja and most of them are warm loving happy people that enjoy life and their friends and family.

baja
06-17-2012, 02:20 PM
Ya there are a lot of rich people that kill themselves. But throughout their lives they got to fall asleep in a warm bed with a full stomach in a big house. You can have all the happiness in the world but that all goes away when you feel REAL starvation.

Geez.

Well you could always sell a kidney.

spdirty
06-17-2012, 05:02 PM
We all know or have read about people with more money than they can spend that are so unhappy they kill themselves. You can't buy happiness that is the message I see most here giving to those that would risk offing themselves for money.

When I first saw this thread I thought well this will go the way of other ridiculous threads, who knew we would have 20 posters that are so miserable they would risk death for the chance at some money.

things are pretty F ucked up right now.

Even with my family, financial situation being OK, and everything else, if the opportunity really truly presented itself I'd think long and hard about it. The reason why I couldn't is that if I were to do it and lose, not only would I destroy my own life, but 5 other lives as well. Never would want to put my Dad, wife, kids and grandmother through that.

Take another approach. Say your kid needs a heart transplant and you don't have the insurance or cash to pay for it. In that situation I'd do it without thinking twice about it.

That One Guy
06-17-2012, 08:55 PM
I know more than a few dirt poor people here in Baja and most of them are warm loving happy people that enjoy life and their friends and family.

But where you come from, people eat sunshine. That's totally different.

baja
06-17-2012, 09:06 PM
That's interesting, where did you hear that.

Agamemnon
06-17-2012, 10:36 PM
Why not? The worst thing about life to me is the need to constantly grind away to pay the bills, and my general metaphysical view doesn't see death as that big of a deal, so sure I'd do it.

Or at least I think I would. I might chicken out once I actually had the gun in my hand. Self-preservation is a strong instinctual drive.

Agamemnon
06-17-2012, 10:43 PM
We all know or have read about people with more money than they can spend that are so unhappy they kill themselves. You can't buy happiness that is the message I see most here giving to those that would risk offing themselves for money.

When I first saw this thread I thought well this will go the way of other ridiculous threads, who knew we would have 20 posters that are so miserable they would risk death for the chance at some money.

things are pretty F ucked up right now.

You're looking at this the wrong way. A lot of people have money issues. Money issues often make life really stressful and unpleasant. The scenario presented offers a guaranteed way out of that. Admittedly there's a one in six chance of it being an undesirable way out, but that means there's also a five in six chance of a really positive result. It's a risky proposition, but for people who are in financial hell, struggling to get by (which describes A LOT of Americans), it's very tempting.

baja
06-17-2012, 10:46 PM
]Why not? The worst thing about life to me is the need to constantly grind away to pay the bills,[/B] and my general metaphysical view doesn't see death as that big of a deal, so sure I'd do it.

Or at least I think I would. I might chicken out once I actually had the gun in my hand. Self-preservation is a strong instinctual drive.

For a smart guy you're pretty dumb.

If you put the effort into making money that you have squandered defending Tebow you'd be well on your way to financial independence.


While it's true we are eternal beings if you knew how special it is to have been chosen to be alive at this particular time you would not ever consider so casually tossing it away.

cutthemdown
06-17-2012, 11:35 PM
I know more than a few dirt poor people here in Baja and most of them are warm loving happy people that enjoy life and their friends and family.

Happiness is choice. Only having no loved ones makes it impossible.

BroncoMan4ever
06-17-2012, 11:41 PM
For a smart guy you're pretty dumb.

If you put the effort into making money that you have squandered defending Tebow you'd be well on your way to financial independence.


While it's true we are eternal beings if you knew how special it is to have been chosen to be alive at this particular time you would not ever consider so casually tossing it away.

what is so special about life in this time? i am not talking like a suicidal freak here, just curious what makes now so much better than the past. entertainment now is garbage. music of today is terrible. there are no current musical acts that will stand the test of time, the way the Beatles or Elvis do. film and television is a rehash of shows and movies from the past. the economy is in the tank, our elected leaders and prospective replacements are all idiots(although that is actually just a constant in the world) overall the human race is becoming dumber and weaker. we have burned through or almost burned through all our natural resources. the country has become so politically correct and goes through so much trouble to make everyone feel that they are special, that the young generation has no idea what it is to work for what you have. they expect everything to be given to them and because of that we are falling behind in everything when compared with other nations.

this is a terrible time in history.

extralife
06-17-2012, 11:52 PM
I don't know what is worse, this thread or the fact that you just said this is a terrible time in history because top 40 radio is just no good

extralife
06-17-2012, 11:53 PM
I wasn't going to kill myself, but **** it all if rihanna ain't some terrible ****

BroncoMan4ever
06-17-2012, 11:59 PM
The only thing that can 'make' you happy is you and it does not cost one red cent.

i truly hate this type of hippy, everything is great as long as you are happy, bumped sticker rhetoric that says being unhappy is my fault.

i am unhappy, because i am slowly killing myself day after day working my ass off to provide for loved ones at 2 different full time jobs. all my work is for the people i love, and because of all the work i have to do, i don't get to see these people for more than a few minutes at a time. gf is pissed off at me because she never sees me because i am always working to take care of her and our incoming child and also because she has been told by doctors that she can't return to work until she delivers.

money so i could get away from working myself to death, where i could be with my girl for more than a few minutes at a time and enjoy that we are about to have a kid together, no bills up to my eyeballs would definitely make me happy. 5 million isn't even necessary. 100 grand to get ahead of bills and have a nice little bit of savings to take care of my family while i got a normal job would be enough to make me happy.

BroncoMan4ever
06-18-2012, 12:09 AM
I don't know what is worse, this thread or the fact that you just said this is a terrible time in history because top 40 radio is just no good

music is not the only reason i had as to why now isn't some great time to be alive.

the entertainment world in general is mediocre at best.

economy in the toilet
psychotic world leaders all are one bad day away from beginning a nuclear holocaust
the human race is becoming dumber because of all the technology we have.

weakness in the human race is growing because of modern tech and medicine allowing the weak and the old to continue living beyond what they should and becoming a drain on the rest of the world. and these weak, or stupid, drains on society breed and create a new generation of weak and stupid to take their place and become even more of a drag on the world.

baja
06-18-2012, 12:30 AM
i truly hate this type of hippy, everything is great as long as you are happy, bumped sticker rhetoric that says being unhappy is my fault.

i am unhappy, because i am slowly killing myself day after day working my ass off to provide for loved ones at 2 different full time jobs. all my work is for the people i love, and because of all the work i have to do, i don't get to see these people for more than a few minutes at a time. gf is pissed off at me because she never sees me because i am always working to take care of her and our incoming child and also because she has been told by doctors that she can't return to work until she delivers.

money so i could get away from working myself to death, where i could be with my girl for more than a few minutes at a time and enjoy that we are about to have a kid together, no bills up to my eyeballs would definitely make me happy. 5 million isn't even necessary. 100 grand to get ahead of bills and have a nice little bit of savings to take care of my family while i got a normal job would be enough to make me happy.

Well it's not all your fault. You asked why this time is so special. There is a shift taking place NOW.


Watch a few or these videos, some of them may resonate with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llB926tJaTk


here is an article speaking about the changes and how they affect you.

http://thesecrettruthabout.com/ascension/ascension-symptoms/

Agamemnon
06-18-2012, 03:15 AM
Well it's not all your fault. You asked why this time is so special. There is a shift taking place NOW.


Watch a few or these videos, some of them may resonate with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llB926tJaTk


here is an article speaking about the changes and how they affect you.

http://thesecrettruthabout.com/ascension/ascension-symptoms/

I'm sure believing that helps you feel better about things, but it's utter nonsense my friend.

Agamemnon
06-18-2012, 03:18 AM
music is not the only reason i had as to why now isn't some great time to be alive.

the entertainment world in general is mediocre at best.

economy in the toilet
psychotic world leaders all are one bad day away from beginning a nuclear holocaust
the human race is becoming dumber because of all the technology we have.

weakness in the human race is growing because of modern tech and medicine allowing the weak and the old to continue living beyond what they should and becoming a drain on the rest of the world. and these weak, or stupid, drains on society breed and create a new generation of weak and stupid to take their place and become even more of a drag on the world.

Looks like we've got a eugenics fan in the house. :thumbsdow

extralife
06-18-2012, 03:44 AM
music is not the only reason i had as to why now isn't some great time to be alive.

the entertainment world in general is mediocre at best.

no, but it was the first thing you mentioned. and it continues to be the first thing you mention.

if there is a reason everything sucks, this is probably it. oh, fickle irony!

what is so special, you ask? well--what has to be special? how is this not characteristic of some derangement; that "the times" (which, by the way, do not exist, are forever and only a metaphysical shorthand for what specifically one does not wish to understand, face, see, deal with, own up to, or in simpler and truer terms internalize) in which one lives and through which one views this process of living have to or at least ought to be greater, in some undefinable way, than those in which one does not and did not live? oh, right: those other times didn't include you.

well--what makes you special? and why, now that we take a trip a sentence or three down your paragraph, is the complaint which follows "entertainment," the one you position as root of the rest, a complaint that revolves around this very notion of "specialness"--which is now projected elsewhere?

your post is an ironic tautology. this world sucks because it is not special; an egocentric proposition--it does not "entertain" you, it does not provide for you, directly in front of you, without the need to search or think or obtain for yourself those things which might be ready-made to tickle your tastes and manufacture for you what you cannot manufacture for yourself. but the problem lies in the belief of everyone else that they are special--that is, your special demands for yourself keep bumping into everyone else, whose demands and impressions for themselves are similarly inflated. and such an inflation simply cannot tolerate the friction of the other, christ no, because the other is an externality, an unpredictable and uncontrollable entity (unless you're the one dictating now the beatles, now rhianna--the elements of the game; or, to blow your mind, the one, to speak simply, that put it into everyone's mind that the choice between the beatles or rhianna was of cataclysmic import in the first place) . and there is nothing you could hate more than that--unless, of course, that given externality was one designed to entertain you.

hmmm!

everyone expects everything to be given to them, and yet here you are complaining that you must work for what you have, for what you wanted

an innocuous observation: what prevents you, this minute, from listening to the Beatles, who entertain you, who you've defined as the not-p to the p that is everything you hate? how today must be better than 1966, the beating heart at the center of Beatlemani: those poor saps hadn't yet even heard a single note of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band!

but it's not The Beatles you like--no, it's the specialness which surrounded them. a manufactured specialness which has now calcified into symbol, that mystical succession of externality, that dumping ground of hope and desire. how those times must have been, that they did not include me, who is here mucking everything up.

I don't make this post to mock you, but to wake you up: there is only one problem with each of us, and that problem is each of us. if there is something characteristic of "the times" it is our desire to simultaneously aggrandize and efface that us, that self, to take up the whole room, to kick everyone out of it--and then to wonder where the god damn party went. and blame its absence on the acoustics of the room.

spdirty
06-18-2012, 06:17 AM
i truly hate this type of hippy, everything is great as long as you are happy, bumped sticker rhetoric that says being unhappy is my fault.

i am unhappy, because i am slowly killing myself day after day working my ass off to provide for loved ones at 2 different full time jobs. all my work is for the people i love, and because of all the work i have to do, i don't get to see these people for more than a few minutes at a time. gf is pissed off at me because she never sees me because i am always working to take care of her and our incoming child and also because she has been told by doctors that she can't return to work until she delivers.

money so i could get away from working myself to death, where i could be with my girl for more than a few minutes at a time and enjoy that we are about to have a kid together, no bills up to my eyeballs would definitely make me happy. 5 million isn't even necessary. 100 grand to get ahead of bills and have a nice little bit of savings to take care of my family while i got a normal job would be enough to make me happy.

Yeah, I do reject the notion that if you aren't happy now you won't be happy with 5 mil. 5 mil would pay my house and my family's houses off, allow us to buy a warehouse, sign shop, equipment, be able to hire people and not have to hand dig holes all the ****in time. Would still stress and be pissed about contractors not paying in an orderly fashion but it wouldn't be as stressful, to the point that I'd have to wait an extra week or 2 to get a check. Kid's college would be taken care of. Could take care of the wife's family which would make her happy which she in turn would make me happy. I'm 31, so I definitely wouldn't retire if I had it, but 90% of my stress is about money, as of now 90% of our marital issues are about money, so it would be nice to not have that cloud hanging over us. Just wouldn't risk my life for it right now.

srphoenix
06-18-2012, 07:14 AM
It's only money. For every dollar there are 5 ways to make a dollar, life however can only be given and is irreplaceable. No amount or form of money is worth your life.

Meck77
06-18-2012, 08:24 AM
I worked for a small business consultant straight out of college. One of the requirements to enroll was you had to make 100k per year. May not sound like much now but this was 1997. We had rooms full of miserable people who worked too hard who didn't actually have any money.

We had very basic yet tangible techniques for the students. One of the biggest mistakes people make is living beyond their means. That in and of itself will certainly create unhappiness in one'e life. It's not that one needs more money so much as one needing to cut costs/expenses.

Again money does not buy happiness. However the balance of the principals that we taught gave people a better chance. They were.

Money, Wealth, life and self. All important but the balance of all of them is truly critical for a happy, balanced, rewarding life.

One of the biggest mistakes people made was not being in a profession they loved. They chased money,made piles of yet were unhappy. They also didn't know how to convert money into WEALTH. Wealth being assets>liabilities. If you truly do what you love the money will indeed follow. Life is a combination of all factors, your family, friends etc. Lastly the self. One cannot be happy unless one is happy with oneself.

5 million dollars or death eh? By the time you paid the taxes on 5 million, lost a million or more with pour choices like most lottery winners do, many would be out of money within 5 years and still miserable. On the flip side if you truly found a balance of money, wealth, life, and self now I'd say the earning potential of everyone who responded "yes" is greater than 5 million and much more rewarding doing what you love.

The only true limiting factor is ONES IMAGINATION. The imagination is limitless........

I know I know. Sounds too good to be true. Well so does someone handing you a check for 5 Million for doing nothing other than risking your own mother ****ing life!:kiddingme

gyldenlove
06-18-2012, 09:17 AM
I would do it for complete financial independence for my lifetime, there is no way 5 mill is enough. Make it 500 million and I would do it.

oubronco
06-18-2012, 09:36 AM
They say money doesn't buy happiness but I'd sure like to try it out for myself to be sure

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-18-2012, 11:37 AM
It's only money. For every dollar there are 5 ways to make a dollar, life however can only be given and is irreplaceable. No amount or form of money is worth your life.

Signed,

The millions of people in this world who need a dollar but don't have one to eat right now. A dollar in America is not much. It's a helluva lot more to kids in Africa though.

srphoenix
06-18-2012, 12:34 PM
Signed,

The millions of people in this world who need a dollar but don't have one to eat right now. A dollar in America is not much. It's a helluva lot more to kids in Africa though.

trillions of dollars won't solve the world's problems either, we've been down that road before. Money is only a means to an end. I'm no hippie saying we should outlaw money or any of that crap because it's the most convenient form of transactionary good that we have, but it isn't the only one. You are correct though, the value of a good is different to different people.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-18-2012, 12:46 PM
In this day and age I think it's more than that. You simply cannot raise a family and survive today without money. Years and centuries ago when Indians ruled this land money wasn't an issue. Survival instincts back then. Hunting and gathering does not exist in today's world. From what I've seen and heard I haven't come across one person who lived on the streets that would say money isn't everything. But I've heard some rich or well off people say it all the time.

baja
06-18-2012, 01:05 PM
You know why the rich and famous seem to kill themselves at a high rate?

It's because they don't have the "If only " card the rest of the people do.

Regular people think if only I had money my life would be wonderful.

The rich and famous do have the money and they are still not happy. This leaves they nothing to hope for

BroncoMan4ever
06-18-2012, 01:14 PM
Looks like we've got a eugenics fan in the house. :thumbsdow

i do agree with aspects of eugenics. survival of the fittest is how i see the world. when i worked for the city of Denver, i used to see everyday the weak, the old, the unable to care for themselves, the just looking for a handout come into the city offices in search of aid. i didn't work in that field, but knew people who did.

after seeing that display and hearing the stories about these people, i started thinking differently. i used to believe it was our duty to help the less fortunate, but now i see these people as weak useless members of society that we continue to support and believe we should let nature run it's course on them.

the retirement age is 65 which was well and good in 1940 when you were lucky to live to that age or if you got to retire you didn't live much longer than 65. now the average lifespan is 78 because of modern medicine prolonging the lives of people. meaning roughly 13 years old people contributing nothing to society are being cared for by the younger working class, with benefits and health care which just keeps prolonging useless lives.

when most public assistance programs were established, they were meant to be a way to help legal citizens get by for a short period of time while they got back on their feet. for 10s of millions these programs have become a way of life. stop paying and taking care of these people to do nothing but breed and populate the country with kids who live the same way as their parents. if you are too weak, stupid or uninspired to take care of yourself, then that sucks for you.

now i'm not saying let's just rub out the weak, i am saying stop coddling them. let nature run its course.

death is natural and necessary to the well being of any species. older generations and the weak are supposed to die off, leaving resources to those who can use them and future generations. but with the USA birth rate being supposedly 1 birth every 8 seconds and 1 death every 13 seconds the population continues to rise at a rate much faster than people die, meaning more people our natural resources need to care for which leads to a faster drain on those resources.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-18-2012, 01:19 PM
You know why the rich and famous seem to kill themselves at a high rate?

It's because they don't have the "If only " card the rest of the people do.

Regular people think if only I had money my life would be wonderful.

The rich and famous do have the money and they are still not happy. This leaves they nothing to hope for

The percentage of rich people not happy doesn't even compare to the percentage of poor people not happy. The public only hears when the rich person dies. You hear nothing when its the poor.

baja
06-18-2012, 01:23 PM
The percentage of rich people not happy doesn't even compare to the percentage of poor people not happy. The public only hears when the rich person dies. You hear nothing when its the poor.

OK forget the % comparison There are a hell of a lot rich & famous people that off themselves. If money gives you a better chance to be happy what's up with that?

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-18-2012, 01:28 PM
OK forget the % comparison There are a hell of a lot rich & famous people that off themselves. If money gives you a better chance to be happy what's up with that?

How many rich people in this world? How many off themselves? Percentages play in this. Money doesn't fix all their problems but in general it certainly looks the case. Depression or starvation. Both are bad but money can fix one.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-18-2012, 01:33 PM
We hear it all the time when a rich or famous person commits suicide. So we think it happens more than it actually does. The media affect. The public was asked how much of the population is gay, and the answers came back roughly 25%. In reality it's around 2%. But since it's in the news all the time,ie marriage, we think it's more.

Blart
06-18-2012, 01:37 PM
So you would suck a dick on live TV for all your friends, family, and coworkers to see?

If you don't suck a dick for 5 million dollars, you're either an idiot or Romney-rich. It won't turn you gay, I promise.

That One Guy
06-18-2012, 01:40 PM
We hear it all the time when a rich or famous person commits suicide. So we think it happens more than it actually does. The media affect. The public was asked how much of the population is gay, and the answers came back roughly 25%. In reality it's around 2%. But since it's in the news all the time,ie marriage, we think it's more.

People actually said 25%? That'd be one in four. I don't think I can buy people think 1 in 4 people are gay.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-18-2012, 01:40 PM
All I know is 5 million tax free into any OM members pocket would certainly benefit them. It's their choice to do it or not. I can certainly understand why someone would not do it, but to say that money wouldn't ease their life is odd to me.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-18-2012, 01:41 PM
People actually said 25%? That'd be one in four. I don't think I can buy people think 1 in 4 people are gay.

I wouldve said 10-15.

baja
06-18-2012, 01:45 PM
I wouldve said 10-15.

If you count the repressed homosexuals and the bi's it's probably closer to 50%

That One Guy
06-18-2012, 01:45 PM
I wouldve said 10-15.

I could probably buy somewhere in the 1 in 10 to 1 in 20 range and that'd be 5-10%. Logically, I would drop the number because as you mentioned, you hear emphasis on the gay ones but don't note the not gay ones. Still, 5-10% I could believe. 25% though? That seems to be the kind of person I'd also expect to calculate wheel rotations in trying find out how long it takes to travel a given distance...

That One Guy
06-18-2012, 01:45 PM
If you count the repressed homosexuals and the bi's it's probably closer to 50%

You're retarded.

baja
06-18-2012, 01:46 PM
You're retarded.


Must have hit a nerve.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-18-2012, 01:48 PM
Ya I'm not sure if they were thinking people who have had sexual contact with same sex, or strictly homosexual population. If you include all the college chicks who made out with each other that percentage grows.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-18-2012, 01:50 PM
Off the subject entirely, Clemens found not guilty on all counts. Ha