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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-10-2012, 01:09 PM
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One could be forgiven for thinking there's anything honorable or honest about Colin Powell. For more than two decades now the Washington media has portrayed the former Secretary of State as something of a real life action hero, a reluctant warrior whose greatest fault – should they deign to mention any – was just being too darn loyal to a guy named George and his buddy Dick. What you might have missed is that Powell is a war criminal in his own right, one who in more than four decades of "public service" helped kill people from Vietnam to Panama to Iraq who never posed a threat to America. But don't just take some anti-war activists' word for it: Powell will proudly tell you as much, so long as he can make a buck from doing it in a book.

Powell's latest $27.99 account of his legendary life is billed as a "powerful portrait of a leader who is reflective, self-effacing, and grateful for the contributions of everyone he works with." But the title, It Worked for Me: In Life and Leadership, could very well refer to Powell's own careerist ambitions: saying and doing whatever served the interests of power – as a young officer in Vietnam, as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the illegal invasion of Panama, as Secretary of State under George W. Bush – has worked out tremendously well for the man, if not so much for those unfortunate enough to be on the receiving end of his public service.

Though billed as a self-effacing, humble leader prepared to admit mistakes, the real Colin Powell is not the one advertised by the P.R. department at HarperCollins. His book makes that clear enough when he discusses his now infamous 2003 presentation before the United Nations on Iraq's alleged stockpiling of weapons of mass destruction. Nearly every line in that speech has since proven to be false – indeed, much of his presentation was known to be false at the time – but you won't find Powell owning up to that.

"There is nothing worse than a leader believing he has accurate information when folks who know he doesn't don't tell him that he doesn't," Powell writes. "I found myself in trouble on more than one occasion because people kept silent when they should have spoken up. My infamous speech at the U.N. in 2003 about Iraqi WMD programs was not based on facts, though I thought it was."

In other words, according to Powell, the fact that he lied to the American public as well as the international community on the eve of a disastrous war is not his fault – heavens no – but the fault of his anonymous underlings, the allegedly timid State Department staffers who lacked the courage to speak truth to their courageous boss. Like much of Powell's anecdotes, it's a tidy little story about leadership that's about as truthful as his U.N. speech.

The reality is Powell, like most powerful men in Washington, is a well-documented liar. In fact, those State Department employees Powell blames for his repeating thinly sourced lies before the international community did in fact speak up. Powell just ignored them since what they had to say wasn't convenient to the task at hand: selling an unjust war against a third-rate military power.

As writer Jonathan Schwarz notes, State Department staff actually went through all the claims Powell was to make in his U.N. speech – and they found most of them wanting. But Powell ignored them, boasting that "every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources. These are not assertions. What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence."

Let's look at a few of those definitely-not-just-assertions. In an effort to dismiss the value of the U.N. weapons inspectors who were on the ground – and not finding anything – Powell declared that the Iraqis had in fact replaced actual scientists in at least one facility with "Iraqi intelligence agents who were to deceive inspectors about the work that was being done there." However, in a memo prepared by the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), that assertion was characterized as "weak" and "not credible."

But that didn't stop Honest Powell, who went on to make what INR termed a "[h]ighly questionable" claim about the Iraqi government placing its WMD experts "under house arrest . . . at one of Saddam Hussein's guest houses." Likewise, veteran journalist Bob Woodward noted in his book Plan of Attack, that Powell took a transcript of a benign conversation between Iraqi soldiers talking about complying with U.N. weapons inspectors and portrayed it "in the most negative light" possible" as an effort to deceive the inspectors, even adding dialogue that wasn't in the original.

But in terms of Powell's own credibility, the most damning part of his U.N. presentation came when he cited documents smuggled out of Iraq by the Saddam Hussein's son-in-law as evidence of ongoing Iraqi perfidy. Powell insisted that Iraq only came clean about its possession of "the deadly nerve agent, VX," after "inspectors came across documentation as a result of the defection of Hussein Kamal." What he left out: that Kamal was categorical that all WMDs Iraq may have ever had in the past were destroyed well before the 2003 invasion. "All weapons," Kamal told inspectors, "biological, chemical, missile, nuclear, were destroyed." Asked about this in 2006 by journalist Sam Husseini, Powell claimed ignorance and angrily shut the door to his chauffeured vehicle. He has never taken responsibility for his own role in a war that killed well over 115,000 Iraqis and more than 4,400 U.S. soldiers.

When it comes to admitting his own role in war crimes, though, Powell wasn't always so tight-lipped. In an earlier book, My American Journey, Powell was upfront about the collective punishment he inflicted against the people of Vietnam when he led a contingent of South Vietnamese soldiers in an attack on a village full of noncombatants. "The people had fled at our approach, except for an old woman too feeble to move," he wrote. "We burned down the thatched huts, starting the blaze with Ronson and Zippo cigarette lighters." That's because "Ho Chi Minh had said the people were like the sea in which his guerrillas swam," Powell explained. "We tried to solve the problem by making the whole sea uninhabitable."

If Powell's sorry about violating the Geneva Conventions and killing innocent people, he's never said so. But he has tried to explain his thinking. "I had been conditioned to believe in the wisdom of my superiors, and to obey," Powell wrote. "I had no qualms about what we were doing."

Blinding obeying authority – always for personal gain – has been a hallmark of Powell's career. As the top deputy to Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger during the Reagan administration, Powell was a party to the transfer of thousands of missiles to Iran as part of an illegal arms-for-hostages swap, with proceeds from the sales used in defiance of Congress and the World Court in support of the right-wing Contra insurgency in Nicaragua, later known as the Iran-Contra scandal. And as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under the first George Bush, Powell led a brutal invasion of Panama in which hundreds of civilians died, an illegal act that was widely condemned by Latin American governments.

Powell's career culminated with the illegal and disastrous invasion of Iraq. Rather than apologize to the victims of that war, however, he has decided to cash in, hawking his latest volume of apologia at a Costco or Sam's Club near you. Since President Barack Obama had decided to let Bush administration war criminals go free – a "look forward, not backward" privilege allowed powerful men in Washington but denied America's 2.3 million mostly non-violent prisoners – it's up to us to remind Powell that while his subservience to deadly state power may have worked for him, it didn't work out so well for the hundreds of thousands of victims that lay in his wake. And not all of us are willing to forget.

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Meck77
06-10-2012, 01:37 PM
:thumbsdowHe tours with those success seminars which are nothing but ploys to get hard up people to invest in BS investment scheme that only make money for those that sell that product/seminar. I was pretty disappointed to fine out he'd stoop so low for money. It does speak to his true character.

cutthemdown
06-10-2012, 02:05 PM
BS Powell knew the game was to start a war before Saddam got off international sanctions. The USA could not let him get back to pumping oil, selling it, and being rich. He was too dangerous and his sons were worst then him. I can go along with the scope of the war being way to large, but killing that SOB and his sons was needed for the region to come out of the ally and join the world. They are still 20 yrs off but ith men like Saddam in power they will never get there.

Blart
06-10-2012, 03:28 PM
If you're a leader and your team fails, you take the blame. Suck it up Powell.

cutthemdown
06-10-2012, 03:34 PM
If you're a leader and your team fails, you take the blame. Suck it up Powell.

His team lost? They served two terms in office and won the war.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-10-2012, 03:41 PM
BS Powell knew the game was to start a war before Saddam got off international sanctions. The USA could not let him get back to pumping oil, selling it, and being rich. He was too dangerous and his sons were worst then him. I can go along with the scope of the war being way to large, but killing that SOB and his sons was needed for the region to come out of the ally and join the world. They are still 20 yrs off but ith men like Saddam in power they will never get there.

Your ability to concoct your own blend of speculation, conjecture, and conspiracy theory to supplant reality and fact never ceases to amaze.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-10-2012, 03:46 PM
His team lost? They served two terms in office and won the war.

Only if you consider going to war on faulty intel and squandering American lives and treasure in the process a "win."

But I suppose it seems like a "win" from your perspective...

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lonestar
06-10-2012, 03:51 PM
Everyone's conjecture and Male Bovine Excrement always amazes me..



"If you argue with an idiot, he will win every time, because he has more experience at it.."

That is the reason I've stayed out of this part of the forum..

lonestar
06-10-2012, 03:53 PM
But don't just take some anti-war activists' word for it: Powell will proudly tell you as much, so long as he can make a buck from doing it in a book.



and what you do not get he is laughing at YOU all the way to the bank..

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-10-2012, 03:58 PM
and what you do not get he is laughing at YOU all the way to the bank..

Um, no, LoneNut - he's laughing at you.

After all, it was you who was hoodwinked by Powell's Iraq BS - not me.

elsid13
06-10-2012, 04:00 PM
He is NOT a War Criminal. I do think he has attempted to recast himself and distance his role with W Administration.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-10-2012, 04:11 PM
He is NOT a War Criminal.

Powell has been committing war crimes since his days of participating in the My Lai cover-up in Vietnam.

mhgaffney
06-11-2012, 09:50 AM
Powell has been committing war crimes since his days of participating in the My Lai cover-up in Vietnam.

This.

Garcia Bronco
06-11-2012, 10:30 AM
Colin Powell has done more for people and this country than all you numbnuts put together.

StugotsIII
06-11-2012, 10:42 AM
Powell has been committing war crimes since his days of participating in the My Lai cover-up in Vietnam.

U mad bro?

TonyR
06-11-2012, 11:44 AM
I can go along with the scope of the war being way to large...

Ya think?!? Not to mention horribly and criminally mismanaged from the word go.

This documentary should be required viewing:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0912593/

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.noendinsightmovie.com/&sa=U&ei=GjzWT52ICuTM6QHmpbilAw&ved=0CBIQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNEmAkE_e5IG-W4_GCZFX0RDEW__Ig

ghwk
06-11-2012, 12:50 PM
:thumbsdowHe tours with those success seminars which are nothing but ploys to get hard up people to invest in BS investment scheme that only make money for those that sell that product/seminar. I was pretty disappointed to fine out he'd stoop so low for money. It does speak to his true character.

I went to one of those because we got free tickets through work. It was creepy and cult like. I was glad to leave minimally scathed.

baja
06-11-2012, 12:57 PM
Colin Powell has done more to betray the people and this country than all you numbnuts put together.

Fixed it for you.

Garcia Bronco
06-11-2012, 01:47 PM
Fixed it for you.

Says the guy that fled the country.

baja
06-11-2012, 03:02 PM
Says the guy that fled the country.

A lot of weak minded people here resort to that response. What that shows me is they are closed minded folks who have no mind of their own. Unfortunately they are brain washed flag wavers. They do not get speaking up against the morally bankrupt thieves running the US government is somehow anti American. They will soon enough realize their government and way of life has been co-opted by international interests. Many American understand the difference, the flag wavers as yet do not. I have always liked you Garcia but you are a flag waver. I pray you and others like you wake up before it's too late. You are a well meaning American who doesn't yet know his enemy.


We both have thousands of posts on a football message board. You living in the States has not helped solve these problems that are choking the life out our great nation anymore that I have helped by living outside of the states. I do what I can do, I try to point out to you (and others) what you won't see even though it is happening right under your nose. You are what they count on my friend.

Please wake up your country needs you, hell the whole damn world needs you.

The American people are still the best (maybe only) hope for the world. There is great strength in the American people when they wake up.

BTW. I did not flee anywhere. I chose to live in a very beautiful area that offered a lifestyle I had been seeking for a number of years.

StugotsIII
06-11-2012, 03:08 PM
A lot of weak minded people here resort to that response. What that shows me is they are closed minded folks who have no mind of their own. Unfortunately they are brain washed flag wavers. They do not get speaking up against the morally bankrupt thieves running the US government is somehow anti American. They will soon enough realize their government and way of life has been co-opted by international interests. Many American understand the difference, the flag wavers as yet do not. I have always liked you Garcia but you are a flag waver. I pray you and others like you wake up before it's too late. You are a well meaning American who doesn't yet know his enemy.


We both have thousands of posts on a football message board. You living in the States has not helped solve these problems that are choking the life out our great nation anymore that I have helped by living outside of the states. I do what I can do, I try to point out to you (and others) what you won't see even though it is happening right under your nose. You are what they count on my friend.

Please wake up your country needs you, hell the whole damn world needs you.

The American people are still the best (maybe only) hope for the world. There is great strength in the American people when they wake up.

BTW. I did not flee anywhere. I chose to live in a very beautiful area that offered a lifestyle I had been seeking for a number of years.

You are lame.

baja
06-11-2012, 03:10 PM
You are sleeping and I do not know how to waken you

StugotsIII
06-11-2012, 03:17 PM
You are sleeping and I do not know how to waken you

Okay dip****.

baja
06-11-2012, 03:43 PM
Okay dip****.

I get why you feel that way. I would want to shoot the messenger too if his was the message I bring.

When you don't see what is happening it's natural to have this reaction.

Hell I hope I am crazy wrong about this stuff, really I do.

StugotsIII
06-11-2012, 03:49 PM
I get why you feel that way. I would want to shoot the messenger too if his was the message I bring.

When you don't see what is happening it's natural to have this reaction.

Hell I hope I am crazy wrong about this stuff, really I do.

You are named after a ****tty mexican fast food chain.

baja
06-11-2012, 03:51 PM
You are named after a ****tty mexican fast food chain.

Oh the pain. ;D


Let's just both hope I am wrong.

StugotsIII
06-11-2012, 05:10 PM
Oh the pain. ;D


Let's just both hope I am wrong.

You are wrong....and really....who gives a **** what you have to say....you live in another country.

ant1999e
06-11-2012, 05:29 PM
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L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-11-2012, 05:33 PM
U mad bro?

L0L @ you thinking this is an actual refutation. :laugh:

Anyway, thanks for not denying the observation re: Powell and the My Lai coverup.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
06-11-2012, 05:36 PM
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Hmmmm....you claim Obama is a "socialist," yet every rightard on this forum is taking him to task for being in bed with Goldman Sachs and for taking big $$$ from every crony capitalist under the sun.

And the sad part is you people don't even have enough brain power to realize you're contradicting yourselves.

StugotsIII
06-11-2012, 05:39 PM
L0L @ you thinking this is an actual refutation. :laugh:

Anyway, thanks for not denying the observation re: Powell and the My Lai coverup.

Yeah...I don't give a ****.

baja
06-11-2012, 06:43 PM
You are wrong....and really....who gives a **** what you have to say....you live in another country.


Brilliant value.