Syria

[cutthemdown]

They just used tanks to kill another 90 people. Putin won't even condemn it. The UN is powerless to do anything because they veto everything just like the good ole cold war days. Is the cold war back on? only our govt doesn't realize it yet? Putin is a total gangster. Tells me Bush JR was a whole lot more naive then i thought he was. Saying he looked into his eyes BS! what a joke.

So here we sit with Syria. Obama is going to have to go outside the UN on this one to stand up to Putin. He may have to do something drastic like use air strikes to protect citizens, or put a blockade on them.

Or do people really think we can let Putin make a joke of the UN? That is the real issue. When it comes to the killings lets face it that **** happens in Africa every day. This more an issue that Putin is ruining the UN, diminishing it further, and in the process weakening American power.

[DenverBrit]

Russia hasn't changed its stance in decades so Putin not condemning one of its 'client' states.... Syria..... is nothing new.

Iran is another recent example.

Before we get carried away with bombing Syria talk, there are plenty of options. Including talking.

Obama-Putin June Talks May Focus on Iran, Syria, Interfax Says

Presidents Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin may focus on Iran and Syria during talks the leaders plan during the G20 summit in Mexico next month, Interfax reported, citing U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul.

International sanctions against Iran have spurred the nation to start negotiations on its nuclear program with six countries, McFaul told Interfax in an interview. The question of how sanctions on Iran might affect Russia’s economic interests is a “delicate” one, the news agency cited McFaul as saying.

[peacepipe]

another sky is falling thread by cut.

[The Lone Bolt]

The UN is completely worthless. al-Assad could be slaughtering 10,000 Syrians a day and eating babies for breakfast and the UN will never do anything but sit around and talk about it (and "condemn" al-Assad's baby-eating in the "harshest possible terms." ::) )

The Arab Spring will die in Syria because nobody outside is willing to act.

[W*GS]

The Arab Spring will die in Syria because nobody outside is willing to act.

Who outside should act?

[cutthemdown]

Here is why i say we have to thwart Russia on this. Egypt rises up in capital, even though Mubarak played ball with US policy we let him fall.

Libya. Even though Gaddaffi let us dismantle his nuclear program, playing ball with the USA and the UN we let him get butchered, and even helped bomb him lol.

We come to Syria. This time it's not a leader or country who plays ball with America. Uh OH they are a Russian bottom boy......what will happen. Putin stands up for them. Puts his foot down for them. If we don't step on that foot the result is Russia, Putin increase their influence in the region. It tells other countries America will bow out on you, but let Russian friends survive. Its like a calling card to put Russian influence over the USA.

This isn't a repub/dem issue. I bet Obama see's it just like that. He knows he can't let Russia save Assad. Some way, he has to go. He will do it in a less like a republican would, who would be more assertive, but i think he does it just the same.

Some how Assad has to be forced into Russian exile or die.

[baja]

Russia hasn't changed its stance in decades so Putin not condemning one of its 'client' states.... Syria..... is nothing new.

Iran is another recent example.

Before we get carried away with bombing Syria talk, there are plenty of options. Including talking.

Obama-Putin June Talks May Focus on Iran, Syria, Interfax Says

Quote:
Presidents Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin may focus on Iran and Syria during talks the leaders plan during the G20 summit in Mexico next month, Interfax reported, citing U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul.

International sanctions against Iran have spurred the nation to start negotiations on its nuclear program with six countries, McFaul told Interfax in an interview. The question of how sanctions on Iran might affect Russia’s economic interests is a “delicate” one, the news agency cited McFaul as saying.

Gee they must have not gotten meck's memo about how dangerous Mexico is. Aren't they afraid of be beheaded.

[cutthemdown]

another sky is falling thread by cut.

Not at all it wasn't a crazy post. It's bringing up one of the biggest issues in the world right now. You don't think it's worth bringing up? You don't think this is a huge issue between Russian and American influence? You are dumber then i thought.

[cutthemdown]

Quote:
Presidents Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin may focus on Iran and Syria during talks the leaders plan during the G20 summit in Mexico next month, Interfax reported, citing U.S. ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul.

International sanctions against Iran have spurred the nation to start negotiations on its nuclear program with six countries, McFaul told Interfax in an interview. The question of how sanctions on Iran might affect Russia’s economic interests is a “delicate” one, the news agency cited McFaul as saying.

Gee they must have not gotten meck's memo about how dangerous Mexico is. Aren't they afraid of be beheaded.

In other news iran has already refused to stop enriching, proving this is no different then any other talks. More stalling. It's all bs and you know it. The are enriching to 20% already and you only need 3% for fuel. 20% is the jumping off point for weapons grade %. They are only talking because they are close to shutting down enriching, and working on the bomb itself.

[baja]

In other news iran has already refused to stop enriching, proving this is no different then any other talks. More stalling. It's all bs and you know it. The are enriching to 20% already and you only need 3% for fuel. 20% is the jumping off point for weapons grade %. They are only talking because they are close to shutting down enriching, and working on the bomb itself.

I think you quoted the wrong post

[cutthemdown]

Obama vs Putin at the G20. If he crushes him, and Putin lets Assad go down, and gets Iran to give up nuclear ambitions then I will be probably be voting for Obama this election. The economy will fix itself just because Americans will work hard regardless of what taxes are, eventually. Growth will be slower, govt bigger, but its still a competition with the world. The most important thing is to stand up to China and Russia. Looks like Obama isn't going to let CHina make off with those Islands, and if he stands up to Russia and Putin opn Syria and Iran I will be liking him a whole lot more.

[cutthemdown]

I think you quoted the wrong post

why because i chose to respond to a portion you didn't put in bold? The Iranian talks are a joke.

[The Lone Bolt]

Who outside should act?

Ideally other Arab states taking the lead with the military backing of NATO. One think is for sure, Annan's naive notion that brutal dictators will be willing to solve problems within their borders peacefully has led to predictable results. Talk will solve nothing.

[baja]

We should release a camel pandemic that should unite the Arabs.

[barryr]

Notice how liberals never take countries killing its citizens for sport seriously, but get all up in arms if we put underwear on a terrorist's head. Just hold talks to get a country to stop killing its people. Of course, it's just that easy and always works.

[peacepipe]

conservatives like cut need their boogeyman, It laughable that willard says russia is our biggest geopolitical enemy or some **** like that & here comes cut babbling about cause of syria we need to restart the cold war.

[cutthemdown]

conservatives like cut need their boogeyman, It laughable that willard says russia is our biggest geopolitical enemy or some **** like that & here comes cut babbling about cause of syria we need to restart the cold war.

Russia never stopped fighting it. It's was only a lull in the action while they rebuilt their economy. Russia/China about a tie for our biggest foe.

So you don't see a fallout if we let countries that Russia supports flaunt the UN, while countries that played ball with the USA get bombed?

[gyldenlove]

Ideally other Arab states taking the lead with the military backing of NATO. One think is for sure, Anan's naive notion that brutal dictators will be willing to solve problems within their borders peacefully has led to predictable results. Talk will solve nothing.

No other Arab nations can or will do anything - name me one Arab country where the military and police is not stretched thin trying to control their own population.

It is the same in Africa, the AU is powerless because their entire armed forces are busy trying to control national rebels - so they sit by while civil war rages all over the contitent and are happy that at least it is not in their country, not realizing it is only a matter of time. Almost without exception Africa is sinking deeper and deeper into the mire.

[peacepipe]

Russia never stopped fighting it. It's was only a lull in the action while they rebuilt their economy. Russia/China about a tie for our biggest foe.

So you don't see a fallout if we let countries that Russia supports flaunt the UN, while countries that played ball with the USA get bombed?

apparently you haven't stopped fighting the cold war either. I know of a few people here that haven't got the message that the civil war ended.

I'll trust Gen. collin powell over your fantasies about this issue.

[baja]

apparently you haven't stopped fighting the cold war either. I know of a few people here that haven't got the message that the civil war ended.

I'll trust Gen. collin powell over your fantasies about this issue.

YOU TRUST COLLIN POWELL? You must have missed his Iraq WMD address to the UN.

Yellow cake anyone?

[peacepipe]

YOU TRUST COLLIN POWELL? You must have missed his Iraq WMD address to the UN.

Yellow cake anyone?over cut & willard?.. yes. collin powell on morning joe essentially called willard & co. idiots for his claim about russia.

[DenverBrit]

YOU TRUST COLLIN POWELL? You must have missed his Iraq WMD address to the UN.

Yellow cake anyone?

Powell has said numerous times that he....and the CIA... were misled by faulty intelligence.

Curveball.....the key source for the Iraqi WMD labs and trailers was discredited by German Intelligence (Curveball's handlers) but the Bush administration brushed aside the German conclusions and moved forward with the Iraq invasion.

That 'intelligence' was the basis for Powell's WMD speech at the UN. Of course, we'll never know for certain.

May 17, 2004
Powell Says C.I.A. Was Misled About Weapons

WASHINGTON, May 16 — Secretary of State Colin L. Powell said for the first time on Sunday that he now believes that the Central Intelligence Agency was deliberately misled about evidence that Saddam Hussein was developing unconventional weapons.

He also said, in his comments on the NBC News program "Meet the Press," that he regrets citing evidence that Iraq had mobile biological laboratories in his presentation to the United Nations on Feb. 5, 2003.

more.....http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/17/international/middleeast/17POWE.html?pagewanted=print&position=

[DenverBrit]

YOU TRUST COLLIN POWELL? You must have missed his Iraq WMD address to the UN.

Yellow cake anyone?

Here is an updated story on Curveball, the Germans, Powell and the CIA. A good read for anyone not familiar with the Curveball story.

Wednesday 16 February 2011 16.45 EST
Colin Powell demands answers over Curveball's WMD lies

Former US secretary of state asks why CIA failed to warn him over Iraqi defector who has admitted fabricating WMD evidence

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Admin/BkFill/Default_image_group/2011/2/16/1297892355352/Rafid-Ahmed-Alwan-al-Jana-007.jpg

Colin Powell, the US secretary of state at the time of the Iraq invasion, has called on the CIA and Pentagon to explain why they failed to alert him to the unreliability of a key source behind claims of Saddam Hussein's bio-weapons capability. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/16/colin-powell-cia-curveball

[cutthemdown]

It's pretty obvious. Saddam had made himself a huge enemy. His games with sanctions were leading to the point USA was worried he would slip away, rebuild, he sons take over and they would be even worst then him. So they went about gathering evidence to help them justify an attack. The CIA probably not interested in discrediting information that was helping to sway the UN. Who cares anyone who pines for Saddam and his crazy sons over what Iraq is now is crazy. We are way better off without Saddam.

[cutthemdown]

Whether or not Powell is saying this just to distance himself, when he really knew all along the evidence was shaky is another debate. He could just be trying to write the last chapter of his career and how he will be judged.

[DenverBrit]

It's pretty obvious. Saddam had made himself a huge enemy. His games with sanctions were leading to the point USA was worried he would slip away, rebuild, he sons take over and they would be even worst then him. So they went about gathering evidence to help them justify an attack. The CIA probably not interested in discrediting information that was helping to sway the UN. Who cares anyone who pines for Saddam and his crazy sons over what Iraq is now is crazy. We are way better off without Saddam.


You really think that's why we invaded Iraq?

Where was Saddam going to 'slip' away before the invasion? He couldn't hide in a hole in the ground.

The invasion was concocted and all we know is that hundreds of thousands lost their lives, the allies lost billions in treasure, Saddam had no WMDs and was hated by Bin Laden, he had no connection to 911 and is one of several monsters who are dictators around the globe.

By any standards, those responsible should be held to account.

[baja]

It's pretty obvious. Saddam had made himself a huge enemy. His games with sanctions were leading to the point USA was worried he would slip away, rebuild, he sons take over and they would be even worst then him. So they went about gathering evidence to help them justify an attack. The CIA probably not interested in discrediting information that was helping to sway the UN. Who cares anyone who pines for Saddam and his crazy sons over what Iraq is now is crazy. We are way better off without Saddam.

DON'T KID YOURSELF The attack was over oil (control of) and the eventual massive revaluation (RV) of the Iraqi Dinar which the USA now holds billions of dollars worth. Pre war Dinar was worth 3X one US dollar. Today the Dinar trades at 1166 dinar to one dollar. Soon the Dinar will be revalued at anywhere from 1 to 3 Dinar per US dollar. Of course the US (and many other countries) bought Dinar at the grossly undervalued rate. They will soon make a 1000 to 3000 % profit. Many individuals have been buying Dinar for years in anticipation of this historic windfall. There is speculation the US holds enough Dinar to pay off the national debt were they to choose to do so.


Buy Dinar while you still can at the post war rate. A five hundred dollar investment will return a profit of at least 1/2 million dollars

Check it out. many claim it's a scam but the Dinar is a real currency therefore not possibly a scam. I have debated for a year or so to pass on this information here but held off because of the frequent ridicule I get here but today I'm feeling benevolent. Besides the usual doubters and naysayers will once again scoff at this opportunity and the brighter ones willing to do some real research will score big time.

[mhgaffney]

It's pretty obvious. Saddam had made himself a huge enemy. His games with sanctions were leading to the point USA was worried he would slip away, rebuild, he sons take over and they would be even worst then him. So they went about gathering evidence to help them justify an attack. The CIA probably not interested in discrediting information that was helping to sway the UN. Who cares anyone who pines for Saddam and his crazy sons over what Iraq is now is crazy. We are way better off without Saddam.

THis is just nonsense.

Educate yourself. The US keeps using the same strategies, over and over. This involves death squads and destabilization.

The US brings in the same people to do the dirty work. The same names turn up again and again.
MHG

"The Salvador Option For Syria"
US-NATO Sponsored Death Squads Integrate "Opposition Forces"

By Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

May 28, 2012 "Information Clearing House" -- Modelled on US covert ops in Central America, the Pentagon's "Salvador Option for Iraq" initiated in 2004 was carried out under the helm of the US Ambassador to Iraq John Negroponte (2004-2005) together with Robert Stephen Ford, who was appointed US Ambassador to Syria in January 2011, less than two months before the beginning of the armed insurgency directed against the government of Bashar Al Assad.

"The Salvador Option" is a "terrorist model" of mass killings by US sponsored death squads. It was first applied in El Salvador, in the heyday of resistance against the military dictatorship, resulting in an estimated 75,000 deaths.

John Negroponte had served as US ambassador to Honduras from 1981 to 1985. As Ambassador in Tegucigalpa, he played a key role in supporting and supervising the Nicaraguan Contra mercenaries who were based in Honduras. The cross border Contra attacks into Nicaragua claimed some 50 000 civilian lives.

In 2004, John Negroponte was appointed US ambassador to Iraq, with a very specific mandate.

The Salvador Option for Syria": The Central Role of US Ambassador Robert S. Ford

The US Ambassador to Syria (appointed in January 2011), Robert Stephen Ford had been part of Negroponte's team at the US Embassy in Baghdad (2004-2005). In this regard, "The Salvador Option" for Iraq laid the groundwork for the launching of the insurgency in Syria in March 2011, which commenced in the Southern border city of Daraa.

In relation to recent events, the killings and atrocities committed in the border city of Houla on May 27 were, in all likelihood, carried out under what may be described as a "Salvador Option for Syria".
The Russian government has called for an investigation:

"As information trickles out of Houla, Syria, near the city of Homs and the Lebanese-Syrian border, it is becoming clear that the Syrian government was not responsible for shelling to deaths some 32 children and their parents, as periodically claimed and denied by Western media and even the UN itself. It appears that instead, it was death squads at close quarters - accused by anti-government "activists" as being "pro-regime thugs" or "militias," and by the Syrian government as the work of Al Qaeda terrorists linked to foreign meddlers." (See Tony Cartalucci, Syrian Government Blamed for Atrocities Committed by US Sponsored Deaths Squads, Global Research, May 28, 2012)

US Ambassador Robert S. Ford was dispatched to Damascus in late January 2011 at the height of the protest movement in Egypt. (The author was in Damascus on January 27, 2011 when Washington's Envoy presented his credentials to the Al Assad government).

At the outset of my visit to Syria in January 2011, I reflected on the significance of this diplomatic appointment and the role it might play in a covert process of political destabilization. I did not, however, foresee that this destabilization agenda would be implemented within less than two months following the instatement of Robert S. Ford as US Ambassador to Syria.

The reinstatement of a US ambassador in Damascus, but more specifically the choice of Robert S. Ford as US ambassador, bears a direct relationship to the onset of the insurgency integrated by death squads in mid-March 2011 against the government of Bashar al Assad.

Robert S. Ford was the man for the job. As "Number Two" at the US embassy in Baghdad (2004-2005) under the helm of Ambassador John D. Negroponte, he played a key role in implementing the Pentagon's "Iraq Salvador Option". The latter consisted in supporting Iraqi death squads and paramilitary forces modelled on the experience of Central America.



Ambassador Ford in Hama in July 2011

Since his arrival in Damascus in late January 2011 until he was recalled by Washington in October 2011, Ambassador Robert S. Ford played a central role in laying the groundwork within Syria as well as establishing contacts with opposition groups. The US embassy was subsequently closed down in February. Ford also played a role in the recruitment of Mujahideen mercenaries from neighboring Arab countries and their integration into Syrian "opposition forces". Since his departure from Damascus, Ford continues to oversee the Syria project out of the US State Department:

"As the United States’ Ambassador to Syria—a position that the Secretary of State and President are keeping me in —I will work with colleagues in Washington to support a peaceful transition for the Syrian people. We and our international partners hope to see a transition that reaches out and includes all of Syria's communities and that gives all Syrians hope for a better future. My year in Syria tells me such a transition is possible, but not when one side constantly initiates attacks against people taking shelter in their homes". (US Embassy in Syria Facebook page)

"Peaceful transition for the Syrian people"? Ambassador Robert S., Ford is no ordinary diplomat. He was U.S. representative in January 2004 to the Shiite city of Najaf in Iraq. Najaf was the stronghold of the Mahdi army. A few months later he was appointed "Number Two Man" (Minister Counsellor for Political Affairs), at the US embassy in Baghdad at the outset of John Negroponte's tenure as US Ambassador to Iraq (June 2004- April 2005). Ford subsequently served under Negroponte's successor Zalmay Khalilzad prior to his appointment as Ambassador to Algeria in 2006.

Robert S. Ford's mandate as "Number Two" (Minister Counsellor for Political Affairs) under the helm of Ambassador John Negroponte was to coordinate out of the US embassy, the covert support to death squads and paramilitary groups in Iraq with a view to fomenting sectarian violence and weakening the resistance movement.

John Negroponte and Robert S. Ford at the US Embassy worked closely together on the Pentagon's project. Two other embassy officials, namely Henry Ensher (Ford's Deputy) and a younger official in the political section, Jeffrey Beals, played an important role in the team "talking to a range of Iraqis, including extremists". (See The New Yorker, March 26, 2007). Another key individual in Negroponte's team was James Franklin Jeffrey, America's ambassador to Albania (2002-2004).

It is worth noting that Obama's newly appointed CIA head, General David Petraeus played a key role the organization of covert support to Syria's rebel forces, the infiltration of Syrian intelligence and armed forces, etc.

Petraeus played a key role in Iraq's Salvador Option. He led the Multi-National Security Transition Command (MNSTC) "Counterinsurgency" program in Baghdad in 2004 in coordination with John Negroponte and Robert S Ford at the US Embassy in Baghdad.

The CIA is overseeing covert ops in Syria. In mid-March, General David Petraeus met with his intelligence counterparts in Ankara, to discuss Turkish support for the Free Syrian Army (FSA) ( CIA Chief Discusses Syria, Iraq With Turkish PM, RTT News, March 14, 2012)

David Petraeus, the CIA chief, held meetings with top Turkish officials both yesterday and on March 12, the Hürriyet Daily News learned. Petraeus met with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan yesterday and his Turkish counterpart, Hakan Fidan, head of the National Intelligence Organization (MİT), the previous day.

An official from the U.S. Embassy said that Turkish and American officials discussed “more fruitful cooperation on the region’s most pressing issues in the coming months.” Turkish officials said Erdoğan and Petraeus exchanged views on the Syrian crisis and anti-terror fight. (CIA chief visits Turkey to discuss Syria and counter-terrorism | Atlantic Council, March 14, 2012)

This this article was first published at Global Research

Copyright © Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research, 2012

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31437.htm

[peacepipe]

It's pretty obvious. Saddam had made himself a huge enemy. His games with sanctions were leading to the point USA was worried he would slip away, rebuild, he sons take over and they would be even worst then him. So they went about gathering evidence to help them justify an attack. The CIA probably not interested in discrediting information that was helping to sway the UN. Who cares anyone who pines for Saddam and his crazy sons over what Iraq is now is crazy. We are way better off without Saddam.you're a typical GWB apologist trying to rationalize one of the biggest **** ups in US history.

[baja]

you're a typical GWB apologist trying to rationalize one of the biggest **** ups in US history.

It wasn't a **** up it was a brilliant but horribly immoral plan by Cheney and the neocons planned for years and years. It was a way to acquire the wealth of Iraq still in the ground.

The war bankrupted the country causing the victor the US government to peg the Iraqi Dinar at a super suppressed rate. The US bought massive quantities of these devalued Dinars all the while knowing they would be behind a revaluation realizing a 1 to 3 thousand % profit.

[mhgaffney]

There was also a report that CIA geeks -- hacked into the Iraqi central bank - just before the invasion -- and ripped off billions/

This was reported in the prestigious International Currency Review, a banking journal with a very limited circulation.

The text was reprinted in the American Free Press.
MHG

International Currency Review: US Took 10 Billion from Iraq Central Bank.

Wed, Aug 20, 2003 - 10:20 AM

http://www.wallstreetbear.com/board/view.php?topic=8993&post=32904

Exclusive to American Free Press
By Gordon Thomas

The CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) are accused by International Currency Review, the London-based journal, of mounting a joint ultra-secret operation to electronically remove an estimated $10 billion out of the Iraqi Central Bank hours before the start of Persian Gulf War II. The whereabouts of the money is not known.

“We believe it is in a secret CIA fund which will be used to mount further special services operations, such as tracking down Saddam Hussein,” said the Review’s publisher, Christopher Story.

Story is a former financial advisor to Lady Thatcher when she was Britain’s prime minister. In the past 10 years, he has testified before several congressional committees dealing with financial scandals.

DIA coordinates all intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It is headquartered in the Pentagon.

The report is titled “The Great Robbery of the Central Bank of Iraq.” It has been sent to finance ministers of leading nations, the World Bank, the Bank of England and heads of all other major banks.

The report is bound to cause huge embarrassment to President Bush after he signed an executive order on March 23, ordering a worldwide hunt for the hidden assets of Saddam Hussein and his family.

The Review claims that using skilled hackers recruited by the DIA and key Iraqi bank officials who had been bribed to provide secret access codes to the Central Bank’s accounts for Saddam Hussein and his family, the money was transferred out of the bank in a high-tech operation.

According to the General Accounting Office (GAO), the investigative agency of Congress, Saddam was estimated to have accumulated “$6.6 billion between 1997 and 2000 from illegal oil smuggling and from illicit deals connected with the United Nations oil for food program.”

But a substantial portion of that money may have been lifted by the secret CIA/DIA operation.

The operation, claims the Review, was masterminded by the CIA/DIA out of a military facility, Redstone Arsenal, in Alabama. It is the base for U.S. Special Ser vices.

“The money was laundered through a number of CIA controlled accounts, including some held in the Discount Bank of Israel, Credit Suisse in Switzerland and the Dresdner Bank in Germany,” said Story.

He confirmed that Germany’s secret service Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) is checking with the major German banks on electronic transfers, which could match the $10 billion.

The Review states in its 25-page report that it had questioned a key member of the operation. She is identified as “Nelda Rogers, a debriefing officer with the Defense Intelligence Agency.”

“She was in Germany last year when American intelligence officials were devising covert operations ahead of the long-planned conflict.

She has revealed that a covert operation targeting the Central Bank of Iraq took place prior to and during the war. The operatives involved were military ‘black operations’ personnel brought into service for this purpose,” said Story.

The Review claims that Rogers and a team of ten DIA operatives were financed through the U.S. Department of Agriculture. They were supported by CIA agents in Iraq.

“In all, 100 people were involved in the operation,” says the report. “The Department of Agriculture has been consistently used to hide payments for U.S. covert operations,” claimed Story, whose headquarters are close to Whitehall.

The Review states: “The U.S. Department of Agriculture is used as a paymaster for certain DIA ‘black operations’ because it has
traditionally remained unscrutinized.”

“Like the Federal Reserve Board and the U.S. Treasury’s secret Exchange Stabilization Fund, the Department of Agriculture is yet another federal agency which benefits from a special exemption from rigorous auditing by the General Accounting Office.”
The Review also states it has testimony from Rogers that the operation was designed to “purloin the Iraq Central Bank’s assets ahead of the arrival of U.S. troops in Baghdad. This suggests that the operation was designed for a nefarious purpose, rather than to help use it for the rebuilding of Iraq.”

After interviewing Rogers and “a number of U.S. intelligence operatives,” Story confirmed he received three warnings to stop his investigation.

“I was told that 19 people are very dead as a result of trying to cover what you are exposing,” Story wrote in an editorial in the Review.

The Review costs $475 a copy and is one of a small group of titles that Story publishes on financial intelligence for the world banking community

[mhgaffney]

It's worth mentioning also -- that the Russian Central Bank was probably hacked in 1991-1992 -- with billions in rubles taken. The hemorrhaging did not end until the Russians installed encryption software in december 1992.

This will be discussed in my Black 9/11.
MHG

[cutthemdown]

You really think that's why we invaded Iraq?

Where was Saddam going to 'slip' away before the invasion? He couldn't hide in a hole in the ground.

The invasion was concocted and all we know is that hundreds of thousands lost their lives, the allies lost billions in treasure, Saddam had no WMDs and was hated by Bin Laden, he had no connection to 911 and is one of several monsters who are dictators around the globe.

By any standards, those responsible should be held to account.

I meant slip through our squeezing fingers, pass on power to his sons. For sure Bush JR wanted to get him anyway he could. He didn't care if Saddam really had a weapons program, they knew he would like to, had one before, and was a crazy bastard.

[cutthemdown]

I hope our CIA did steal 10 billion, good for them. Use to go out and keep us as the top dog.

[mhgaffney]

I hope our CIA did steal 10 billion, good for them. Use to go out and keep us as the top dog.

Keep "us" on top?

You are making assumptions -- that the CIA is looking after our interests -- the best interests of the US of A.

But this is not true. The CIA was created to serve the interests of investment bankers. And we have seen in recent years that they could care less about you and me. We have seen the mess they have made of the global economy.

If you don't believe it -- check the sources in my paper - posted recently.
MHG

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30605.htm

[DenverBrit]

Keep "us" on top?

You are making assumptions -- that the CIA is looking after our interests -- the best interests of the US of A.

But this is not true. The CIA was created to serve the interests of investment bankers. And we have seen in recent years that they could care less about you and me. We have seen the mess they have made of the global economy.

If you don't believe it -- check the sources in my paper - posted recently.
MHG

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30605.htm


Was this after Germany won WW1 & WW2?