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Doggcow
05-11-2012, 12:43 PM
I love you Ridley Scott. Thank you.

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peacepipe
05-11-2012, 12:47 PM
I can't wait. I usually wait til a movie comes out on DVD/blu ray but I'll be going to the theatre for this one.

Doggcow
05-11-2012, 12:52 PM
I can't wait. I usually wait til a movie comes out on DVD/blu ray but I'll be going to the theatre for this one.

It looks like they stay absolutely true to Alien as well.

I'm only 25 now, grew up on them, they are far and away my favorite movies ever. Aliens and Predators are the Sci-Fi universe that I go bananas over.

baja
05-11-2012, 12:58 PM
This is the one Beantown is waiting for .

Speaking of Beantown was he ever reinstated. what is his status if I can ask without being called a drama whore.

alkemical
05-11-2012, 01:02 PM
I'm going to go see this movie too!

TonyR
05-11-2012, 01:15 PM
I'm only 25 now, grew up on them...

Grew up on them? You weren't born when the first two (Alien and Aliens) came out!

lolcopter
05-11-2012, 01:15 PM
Awesome summer for movies, this one especially

R-Mac
05-11-2012, 01:16 PM
Absolutely. This one is #1 on my list.

Dutch
05-11-2012, 01:19 PM
I figured that without Prometheus in the thread title, this one would get missed by a few folks:


http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=105436

Absolutely stoked for this one as well......

Beantown Bronco
05-11-2012, 01:22 PM
This is the one Beantown is waiting for .

Speaking of Beantown was he ever reinstated. what is his status if I can ask without being called a drama whore.

Yup, this one is definitely at or near the top of my summer movies list.

Just got reinstated today apparently. Tried logging in a few random times over the last 10 days, but couldn't get in until now. I assume it was TJ that undid the banning, but I haven't gotten any official word. Still don't know what I did to Old Dude for him to try to play the "perma banned" card, but whatever, I'm just assuming someone hacked into his account that day and ran roughshod. If not and there's a new set of rules for this place that says you can't joke around, I'd appreciate it if someone could link me to them.

BroncsCheer
05-11-2012, 01:23 PM
Mmmmmm . ....

Noomi ....

alkemical
05-11-2012, 01:48 PM
I have some HR Giger prints hanging up in my place.

Stuff from when Giger did "dune".

Drunk Monkey
05-11-2012, 02:03 PM
Yup, this one is definitely at or near the top of my summer movies list.

Just got reinstated today apparently. Tried logging in a few random times over the last 10 days, but couldn't get in until now. I assume it was TJ that undid the banning, but I haven't gotten any official word. Still don't know what I did to Old Dude for him to try to play the "perma banned" card, but whatever, I'm just assuming someone hacked into his account that day and ran roughshod. If not and there's a new set of rules for this place that says you can't joke around, I'd appreciate it if someone could link me to them.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=105485

Welcome back. I think most agreed the banning was unjustified.

Houshyamama
05-11-2012, 02:08 PM
Grew up on them? You weren't born when the first two (Alien and Aliens) came out!

Well it would have been harder for him to grow up on them if he was an adult before they came out....

canadianbroncosfan
05-11-2012, 02:09 PM
it looks good, but I don't think it looks better than the Avengers good.

Doggcow
05-11-2012, 02:28 PM
Well it would have been harder for him to grow up on them if he was an adult before they came out....

Lol ya these were the movies bro showed me when I was young. Mom was pissed

myMind
05-11-2012, 03:08 PM
I have some HR Giger prints hanging up in my place.

Stuff from when Giger did "dune".


http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3642/duneworms.jpg

Harvitz81
05-11-2012, 03:36 PM
I've been waiting for this ever since I saw a trailer in February or so. I can't wait!

baja
05-11-2012, 03:39 PM
Yup, this one is definitely at or near the top of my summer movies list.

Just got reinstated today apparently. Tried logging in a few random times over the last 10 days, but couldn't get in until now. I assume it was TJ that undid the banning, but I haven't gotten any official word. Still don't know what I did to Old Dude for him to try to play the "perma banned" card, but whatever, I'm just assuming someone hacked into his account that day and ran roughshod. If not and there's a new set of rules for this place that says you can't joke around, I'd appreciate it if someone could link me to them.

There you are!

Kaylore
05-11-2012, 03:49 PM
We should merge this with the other thread.

baja
05-11-2012, 03:50 PM
+

Dr. Broncenstein
05-11-2012, 03:58 PM
Yup, this one is definitely at or near the top of my summer movies list.

Just got reinstated today apparently. Tried logging in a few random times over the last 10 days, but couldn't get in until now. I assume it was TJ that undid the banning, but I haven't gotten any official word. Still don't know what I did to Old Dude for him to try to play the "perma banned" card, but whatever, I'm just assuming someone hacked into his account that day and ran roughshod. If not and there's a new set of rules for this place that says you can't joke around, I'd appreciate it if someone could link me to them.

Lol my one man rural riot worked.

Dr. Broncenstein
05-11-2012, 04:00 PM
Taking my 4 and 5 year olds to see the Avengers tomorrow. It's literally the first time I've taken my kids to an actual movie theater.

DBroncos4life
05-11-2012, 04:00 PM
Yup, this one is definitely at or near the top of my summer movies list.

Just got reinstated today apparently. Tried logging in a few random times over the last 10 days, but couldn't get in until now. I assume it was TJ that undid the banning, but I haven't gotten any official word. Still don't know what I did to Old Dude for him to try to play the "perma banned" card, but whatever, I'm just assuming someone hacked into his account that day and ran roughshod. If not and there's a new set of rules for this place that says you can't joke around, I'd appreciate it if someone could link me to them.

Who is this noob?

Bronco Boy
05-11-2012, 07:06 PM
Guess I haven't heard much about this. Is it a prequel to Alien or something? Looks awesome.

Beantown Bronco
05-11-2012, 08:50 PM
Taking my 4 and 5 year olds to see the Avengers tomorrow. It's literally the first time I've taken my kids to an actual movie theater.

That sound you just heard was rugbythug's head exploding.

Beantown Bronco
05-11-2012, 08:53 PM
Guess I haven't heard much about this. Is it a prequel to Alien or something? Looks awesome.

That's the million dollar question. They're saying it's not, but it basically is......sort of. The best comparison I heard is this: Prometheus takes place in the same basic film universe as Alien and takes place before Alien, so it's technically a prequel.....but no more so than Captain America is a prequel to Iron Man.

Dr. Broncenstein
05-11-2012, 08:56 PM
That sound you just heard was rugbythug's head exploding.

After that we're headed to Birdman's crib to watch Ghostbusters.

TheReverend
05-11-2012, 09:08 PM
We should merge this with the other thread.

The one about Japanese Tentacle Porn?

Archedamian
05-12-2012, 12:33 AM
I think that it is great that Ridley Scott is going back to doing Sci-Fi again. He is my favorite director and I am really looking forward to this and I am cautiously optimistic about another Bladerunner film (one of my top 5 favorite films).

Doggcow
05-12-2012, 12:55 AM
That's the million dollar question. They're saying it's not, but it basically is......sort of. The best comparison I heard is this: Prometheus takes place in the same basic film universe as Alien and takes place before Alien, so it's technically a prequel.....but no more so than Captain America is a prequel to Iron Man.

I think the plan is more to discover the history, and the other species that piloted the ship. I wonder if they will discuss Predators at all as well, as they derived their hyperspace technology from the other alien race.

jutang
05-12-2012, 01:10 PM
I think the plan is more to discover the history, and the other species that piloted the ship. I wonder if they will discuss Predators at all as well, as they derived their hyperspace technology from the other alien race.

Take it was it's worth, but a family I took care of left for England back in 2010 to start pre-production on this movie. When I asked mom what dad left England for she said it was the prequel to Alien.

GreatBronco16
05-12-2012, 05:27 PM
Yup, this one is definitely at or near the top of my summer movies list.

Just got reinstated today apparently. Tried logging in a few random times over the last 10 days, but couldn't get in until now. I assume it was TJ that undid the banning, but I haven't gotten any official word. Still don't know what I did to Old Dude for him to try to play the "perma banned" card, but whatever, I'm just assuming someone hacked into his account that day and ran roughshod. If not and there's a new set of rules for this place that says you can't joke around, I'd appreciate it if someone could link me to them.

Don't worry Bean, you weren't the only one.

And I can't wait for this movie either.

Jay3
05-12-2012, 05:33 PM
I'm in. This looks awesome.

Jay3
05-12-2012, 05:33 PM
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3642/duneworms.jpg

This looks like a sandworm deep-throating a giant black penis.

broncogary
05-12-2012, 05:41 PM
This looks like a sandworm deep-throating a giant black penis.

That's not deep-throating.:-*:wiggle:

peacepipe
05-12-2012, 05:50 PM
was reading somewhere that they were hopeing for a pg-13 rating but got a R rating. which is a good thing cause it means they are not going edit things out in order to get a differant rating. good news also it will be 2 hr 3 minute movie. I hate paying $8 for a ticket or renting a movie that's barely an hr & half. I feel ripped off when movies are that short.

Dr. Broncenstein
05-12-2012, 08:17 PM
My 4 year old son loled for a good five minutes today "when hulk BAMMED the bad guy like BAM BAM BAM!!!!". The avengers was good family fun. Never was interested in the Iron Man and Hulk Movies... Now we have to rent them pronto.

Dutch
05-12-2012, 08:36 PM
I think the plan is more to discover the history, and the other species that piloted the ship. I wonder if they will discuss Predators at all as well, as they derived their hyperspace technology from the other alien race.

Predator has nothing to do at all with the original Alien univers. That was a studio gimmick and I hope they leave it at that. Where do you get the Preds getting hyperdrive from the Space Pilots?

SonOfLe-loLang
06-07-2012, 06:27 PM
Just saw this movie. Its not really my kind of thing, but its not bad. More questions than questions, but it kept my attention and was pretty in its own way

Tombstone RJ
06-07-2012, 06:34 PM
Just saw this movie. Its not really my kind of thing, but its not bad. More questions than questions, but it kept my attention and was pretty in its own way

sounds disappointing...

SonOfLe-loLang
06-07-2012, 06:39 PM
sounds disappointing...

Well, its one of those movies that centers itself around an unanswerable question. And even as youre watching it youre like, oooh i cant wait till we find out the answer...but its like one big tease. Like LOST...and the same writer (lindelof) was behind both.

Doggcow
06-07-2012, 09:10 PM
Predator has nothing to do at all with the original Alien univers. That was a studio gimmick and I hope they leave it at that. Where do you get the Preds getting hyperdrive from the Space Pilots?

"studio gimmick"? The comics and lore came long before the movies.

Gcver2ver3
06-07-2012, 09:15 PM
sounds disappointing...

agreed...

snowspot66
06-07-2012, 09:28 PM
This looks like a sandworm deep-throating a giant black penis.

Sexuality and rape is a major thematic element to H.R. Geiger and the original Alien so you're pretty much right on target.

Tombstone RJ
06-07-2012, 09:35 PM
there's a lot of penises and vaginas in HC Gigers stuff. For example, the head of the alien, ever notice it's shape?

um, yah...

Tombstone RJ
06-07-2012, 09:39 PM
also a lot of butt holes in the ole giger art... dude is creepy...

myMind
06-07-2012, 10:17 PM
Sadly this film is getting average reviews. The major flaw seems to be with the script. Visually and cinematically it is stunning. Ill withhold judgment til I see it myself.

baja
06-07-2012, 10:21 PM
http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/guides_0y/assets/widget_cDlp74lOHfB6AHqeiUaRXN.jpg

baja
06-07-2012, 10:22 PM
http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/guides_0y/assets/widget_dAaM27sCPcjAiFzciYB0B9.jpg

baja
06-07-2012, 10:23 PM
http://sas.guidespot.com/bundles/guides_0y/assets/widget_dXeVQvJUjaOADOj5yxNncd.jpg

Doggcow
06-07-2012, 10:43 PM
Sadly this film is getting average reviews. The major flaw seems to be with the script. Visually and cinematically it is stunning. Ill withhold judgment til I see it myself.

Also, anytime with a movie like this (following Alien's footsteps), it takes something absolutely epic to get a "wow"

Chris
06-07-2012, 10:43 PM
My brother's in film, saw it last night and really enjoyed it. He said it wasn't perfect but at the very least it's a cool movie and you can talk about it for a while afterwards. His film buddies were less enthused.

StugotsIII
06-07-2012, 10:57 PM
So is this an Alien prequel or what?

Doggcow
06-07-2012, 11:01 PM
So is this an Alien prequel or what?

Yes and No.

myMind
06-08-2012, 12:31 AM
Also, anytime with a movie like this (following Alien's footsteps), it takes something absolutely epic to get a "wow"

It did take a couple decades for Alien to move from cult classic to what it is seen as now.

cutthemdown
06-08-2012, 12:55 AM
So is this an Alien prequel or what?

It takes place in the same world, but is more about the Space Jockey, the strange creature at the controls of the alien ship in the first Alien movie.

Doggcow
06-08-2012, 01:39 AM
It did take a couple decades for Alien to move from cult classic to what it is seen as now.

But what it IS seen as now, raises all expectations.

TheReverend
06-08-2012, 08:29 AM
Well, its one of those movies that centers itself around an unanswerable question. And even as youre watching it youre like, oooh i cant wait till we find out the answer...but its like one big tease. Like LOST...and the same writer (lindelof) was behind both.

This one just made it to redbox for me

SonOfLe-loLang
06-08-2012, 10:21 AM
This one just made it to redbox for me

Yeah, might not be the worst decision. Though if you have nothing else to do, the visuals are pretty stunning and might be worth a trip to the theater, but ya know, life would go on if ya didnt.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-08-2012, 10:22 AM
Heres more complete thoughts about it: http://bit.ly/LAiyQo

Spider
06-08-2012, 10:42 AM
Just saw this movie. Its not really my kind of thing, but its not bad. More questions than questions, but it kept my attention and was pretty in its own way

I just saw the grey ....major let down ....rise of the planet of apes was alright though....I just cant take another aliens movie

Pick Six
06-08-2012, 11:25 AM
I might see this movie. I have no unreasonable expectations, as I've never seen any of the Alien movies...

TheReverend
06-08-2012, 11:34 AM
I might see this movie. I have no unreasonable expectations, as I've never seen any of the Alien movies...

Commie

bronco militia
06-08-2012, 11:56 AM
Taking my 4 and 5 year olds to see the Avengers tomorrow. It's literally the first time I've taken my kids to an actual movie theater.


http://forums.watchuseek.com/attachments/f2/522232d1317010357-newbie-question-about-new-watch-not-sure-if-serious.jpg

good luck

bronco militia
06-08-2012, 11:57 AM
I keep reading mixed reviews. is it more like blade runner or alien?

Beantown Bronco
06-08-2012, 12:25 PM
I've never seen any of the Alien movies...

Commie

This might be the first time in OMane history anyone could say this, but holy crap, TheRev just took it really easy on someone. Something is really wrong here.

Crush, I've killed people for saying less.

RunSilentRunDeep
06-09-2012, 05:53 AM
Saw the 3D IMAX version yesterday. It sucked. Characters weren't worth carrying about, efforts to be scary were comical, action was lame. It was a good looking flick, but not worth the $$$.

Elway 4 Life
06-09-2012, 11:55 AM
I was so stoked to see this and walked out very disappointed. The previews were far better than the movie. Wife wanted to see Snow White and I talked her into Promethius. She was not impressed either. Wait for video (my opinion for what it's worth).

Kaylore
06-09-2012, 11:58 AM
I keep hearing how disappointing this was and then to read it on the mane....I guess I'm glad I didn't go.

myMind
06-09-2012, 12:27 PM
I keep hearing how disappointing this was and then to read it on the mane....I guess I'm glad I didn't go.

It's certainly not a cinematic masterpiece like Alien, but it's definitely worth seeing. I was only disappointed because I went in with my expectations so high.

long beach bronco
06-09-2012, 02:16 PM
The movie was just two hours long, but should have been 3 hours so that it could answer all the questions, make you care about the people and set things up real nice for a sequel. It just seemed like the movie was rushed. Every scene was like, "ok, hurry up so we can get to the next scene." They just ran through it without any substance. It looked like a nice colorfull balloon, nice looking outside but nothing inside.

v2micca
06-09-2012, 10:57 PM
I was seriously let down by this film. The plot was too conventional and predictable. The main characters were all over the map, many whose actions and motivations for those actions don't really make a ton of sense. The secondary characters might as well have "cannon fodder" tattooed on their foreheads for all the development they get. There are some interesting ideas buried in the story, but they seem to constantly be swept aside as the film barrels towards its predictable 3rd Act action sequence finale. Really disappointed. I was looking forward to this film and can't really recommend it.

Doggcow
06-09-2012, 11:13 PM
I feel like the characters and everything weren't supposed to matter. Just to begin the progression to the next planet.

I sure hope I'm not the only one that noticed they weren't on the same planet from Alien.

broncocalijohn
06-09-2012, 11:24 PM
I keep hearing how disappointing this was and then to read it on the mane....I guess I'm glad I didn't go.

For what it is worth, Brian K.rause from Blue Lagoon 2 said it sucked. Now if Leo from Charmed can let us FB friends know it sucked and he starred in Blue Lagoon 2, then you know it must have sucked ass. I will pass on this one.

Wes Mantooth
06-09-2012, 11:32 PM
Horrible waste of money. Poor character development and no real suspense. Alien 4 was better.

UberBroncoMan
06-10-2012, 01:20 AM
This movie needed another 30 minutes for character development and buildup for events. Also quality deaths.

It was hard to care for many of the characters. There were illogical decisions of sacrifice that humans wouldn't normally make.

GAH!

I don't hate the film though. I just hope there's a big ass R. Scott directors cut ala Kingdom of Heaven that completely changes the film from average to great.

myMind
06-10-2012, 01:24 AM
I feel like the characters and everything weren't supposed to matter. Just to begin the progression to the next planet.

I sure hope I'm not the only one that noticed they weren't on the same moon from Alien.

fixed...
and you're a bit behind if this is news to you.

Still doesn't excuse Lidlehasselhoff rewriting this movie into the reaching pile of **** potential it is. How the **** does this guy still get work in Holywood?!?


We all (I assume) ask ourselves these types of questions(from the movie) on a regular basis.

Im not asking for answers, obviously we don't have them. A great writer would be able to ask us these questions in such an eloquent manner as to lull us into forgetting that we dont know, and to just enjoy the mystery. This script failed hard...If it wasn't such a beautifully shot movie I might just say it wasn't good. I ****ING HATE LINDLEOFF AS A WRITER! Im not surprised that Lost and Prometheus share some vague half-measure explanation of the story through a religious perspective. No offense to the religious here, but what if "god" is just a Johnny Appleseed type? Plant the seed and move on to plant more, never looking back...that doesn' make it a villain.

Doggcow
06-10-2012, 03:10 AM
fixed...
and you're a bit behind if this is news to you.

Still doesn't excuse Lidlehasselhoff rewriting this movie into the reaching pile of **** potential it is. How the **** does this guy still get work in Holywood?!?


We all (I assume) ask ourselves these types of questions(from the movie) on a regular basis.

Im not asking for answers, obviously we don't have them. A great writer would be able to ask us these questions in such an eloquent manner as to lull us into forgetting that we dont know, and to just enjoy the mystery. This script failed hard...If it wasn't such a beautifully shot movie I might just say it wasn't good. I ****ING HATE LINDLEOFF AS A WRITER! Im not surprised that Lost and Prometheus share some vague half-measure explanation of the story through a religious perspective. No offense to the religious here, but what if "god" is just a Johnny Appleseed type? Plant the seed and move on to plant more, never looking back...that doesn' make it a villain.

The answer seemed pretty obvious to me. We were genetically engineered to be guinea pigs for weapons, nothing more.

Beantown Bronco
06-10-2012, 08:27 AM
I don't understand all the hate this movie is getting. Just saw it last night and loved it. Every criticism I've seen could be made about the original, which is now viewed as an absolute classic....one of the best movies ever for the genre.

This movie had three incredible performances IMO: Charlize, Noomie and most of all Fassbender. They absolutely nailed their roles.

On top of all that, this was far and away the best use of 3D of any movie since Avatar. Just beautiful.

It answered all the questions I had going in and a few more that were presented throughout the movie. Did it tack on a few more that went unanswered? Sure. But those will be dealt with in the sequel, which I really hope will follow.

Dutch
06-10-2012, 10:24 AM
This movie needed another 30 minutes for character development and buildup for events. Also quality deaths.

It was hard to care for many of the characters. There were illogical decisions of sacrifice that humans wouldn't normally make.

GAH!

I don't hate the film though. I just hope there's a big ass R. Scott directors cut ala Kingdom of Heaven that completely changes the film from average to great.

Word on the street in Hollywood is that this is the case, as seems to be the norm now with anything Scott does. He makes the movie he wants to make, then cuts the hell out of it to satisfy the studio/theater owners and doesn't worry about what the result is. Kind of a crummy way of doing business, but hard to blame Riddley as he was sick and tired of constantly fighting the studios.

knuckleballah22
06-10-2012, 02:00 PM
avenegers was amazing... this movie looks good tho

UberBroncoMan
06-10-2012, 03:20 PM
Word on the street in Hollywood is that this is the case, as seems to be the norm now with anything Scott does. He makes the movie he wants to make, then cuts the hell out of it to satisfy the studio/theater owners and doesn't worry about what the result is. Kind of a crummy way of doing business, but hard to blame Riddley as he was sick and tired of constantly fighting the studios.

I really hope so. Kingdom of Heaven had to have ridiculous amounts cut. Tons of character development. The theatrical version was ****.

Edit: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/ridley-scott-admits-he-cut-prometheus-for-ratings-but-says-there-wont-be-a-directors-cut-on-dvd-20120604

Guess not. ****ing lame.

Beantown Bronco
06-10-2012, 04:23 PM
I really hope so. Kingdom of Heaven had to have ridiculous amounts cut. Tons of character development. The theatrical version was ****.

Edit: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/ridley-scott-admits-he-cut-prometheus-for-ratings-but-says-there-wont-be-a-directors-cut-on-dvd-20120604

Guess not. ****ing lame.

He also said in earlier interviews that this was not in any way a prequel to Alien, so I'll take this with a grain of salt. As one of the commenters in that link noted "This contradicts his live interview with Mark Kermode on BBC radio last Friday. Scott said there was stuff he wanted to add and would consider a Directors Cut "Never say never" were his exact words."

HooptyHoops
06-10-2012, 07:09 PM
Yep, went to it a couple hours ago....wasted $12.50. My buddies and I just looked at each other after it was over and we all just shrugged....

ZONA
06-11-2012, 12:32 AM
Saw the 3D IMAX version yesterday. It sucked. Characters weren't worth carrying about, efforts to be scary were comical, action was lame. It was a good looking flick, but not worth the $$$.

That's kinda how I felt when I came out of the theater watching Avatar. Visually stunning all the way through. Story got kinda silly and I felt like I was watching a year 2780 cowboys vs the indians, lol.

I think the last time I actually went to see a movie and liked every single aspect of it was Reign Of Fire. Even Lord of The Rings some parts felt dragged on.

Doggcow
06-11-2012, 12:37 AM
That's kinda how I felt when I came out of the theater watching Avatar. Visually stunning all the way through. Story got kinda silly and I felt like I was watching a year 2780 cowboys vs the indians, lol.

I think the last time I actually went to see a movie and liked every single aspect of it was Reign Of Fire. Even Lord of The Rings some parts felt dragged on.

Wait you gotta be ****ing kidding me, you just said you LIKED Reign of Fire and thought it was a GOOD movie?

v2micca
06-11-2012, 05:31 AM
I don't understand all the hate this movie is getting. Just saw it last night and loved it. Every criticism I've seen could be made about the original, which is now viewed as an absolute classic....one of the best movies ever for the genre.


The original did face these same criticisms and rightly so. It has become a classic in spite of these weaknesses, not because them. The original Alien brought so much new ground-breaking material to the table that we have largely given it a pass on many of its weaker elements.

However, this is 2012. There aren't really any new Ideas or concepts in Prometheus that haven't already been well explored in Sci-Fi and popular media for the last couple of decades. While the visuals are impressive, they aren't ground-breaking and aren't far removed from what we typically see in summer block-buster fare. The film really brings nothing new to the table.

bowtown
06-11-2012, 05:34 AM
Wait you gotta be ****ing kidding me, you just said you LIKED Reign of Fire and thought it was a GOOD movie?

Yeah: All Credibility = Gone.

v2micca
06-11-2012, 06:28 AM
Yeah: All Credibility = Gone.

Speaking of movies that were a huge disappointment. At least Reign of Fire had the excuse of not nearly having the budget to be the film I wanted it to be. i.e. F-18 squadrons dog-fighting legions of Dragons.

Beantown Bronco
06-11-2012, 07:45 AM
However, this is 2012. There aren't really any new Ideas or concepts in Prometheus that haven't already been well explored in Sci-Fi and popular media for the last couple of decades. While the visuals are impressive, they aren't ground-breaking and aren't far removed from what we typically see in summer block-buster fare. The film really brings nothing new to the table.

Replace "Prometheus" with pretty much any other title out there and you'd still be accurate. Aside from Inception, I can't really think of any recent movies I'd make a real argument for there, and many would argue that that movie has most of its plot taken from other movies.

While the visuals may not be "ground breaking" in your opinion, I'll stand by my comment that the 3D execution in particular is far superior to anything else out there to this point with the exception of Avatar. That shouldn't be overlooked. Many skilled directors just haven't been able to get this technique down quite right.

v2micca
06-11-2012, 08:06 AM
Replace "Prometheus" with pretty much any other title out there and you'd still be accurate. Aside from Inception, I can't really think of any recent movies I'd make a real argument for there, and many would argue that that movie has most of its plot taken from other movies.

Exactly. However, I would argue that a film like The Avengers, while being incredibly formulaic and really bringing nothing new or ground breaking to the table, acknowledges this and compensates by giving us a more character driven narrative. Prometheus have principles that routinely act in ways whose only justification is to drive the plot. If I'm not going to be engaged by the plot, I need to be engaged by the characters. Prometheus fails on both accounts.



While the visuals may not be "ground breaking" in your opinion, I'll stand by my comment that the 3D execution in particular is far superior to anything else out there to this point with the exception of Avatar. That shouldn't be overlooked. Many skilled directors just haven't been able to get this technique down quite right.

Competent use of "3D" technology impresses me about as much as a 6 year old's competent use of a fork. Feel free to disagree with me on this one, but I have yet to see a film where I felt the medium truly added anything to the Narrative. I'm not going to be impressed that a director can dust off a 50 year old gimic and use it in a way that doesn't actually distract me from the film.

Doggcow
06-11-2012, 08:48 AM
Speaking of movies that were a huge disappointment. At least Reign of Fire had the excuse of not nearly having the budget to be the film I wanted it to be. i.e. F-18 squadrons dog-fighting legions of Dragons.

the only redeeming quality was the scene where dumbass jumped at a flying dragon with an axe and got straight ate. Thank god that didn't work.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-11-2012, 09:21 AM
The answer seemed pretty obvious to me. We were genetically engineered to be guinea pigs for weapons, nothing more.

I didn't get this impression, though I could be wrong.

In the first scene, the strange white human think drank that black stuff and it immediately broke down his body, and his DNA got into the water stream. I'm gonna assume that scene took place on earth before there was much life on it, and that DNA eventually formed humans. (Also, the movie is called Prometheus, and he was the titan that gave humans life and fire and then was chastized for it (right?). So, perhaps, we can assume this was never supposed to happen, thus they created a weapon to destroy it.

One of the characters did mention something about them halting the attack for some unknown reason...but that was one of the many unanswered questions in the movie.

v2micca
06-11-2012, 10:05 AM
I didn't get this impression, though I could be wrong.

In the first scene, the strange white human think drank that black stuff and it immediately broke down his body, and his DNA got into the water stream. I'm gonna assume that scene took place on earth before there was much life on it, and that DNA eventually formed humans. (Also, the movie is called Prometheus, and he was the titan that gave humans life and fire and then was chastized for it (right?). So, perhaps, we can assume this was never supposed to happen, thus they created a weapon to destroy it.

One of the characters did mention something about them halting the attack for some unknown reason...but that was one of the many unanswered questions in the movie.

I'm pretty much right there with you on the Prometheus thing. Ridley Scott is not always subtle with his metaphors and I'm pretty sure he was smacking us over the head with that one. So yeah, the Space Jockey who seeded earth with his own genetic Code was probably doing so without express consent of their Hierarchy.

And I'm pretty certain that given the timing of the Space Jockey's decision to launch a biological attack on earth and wipe out humanity (roughly 2000 years before 2092, so right in the 33 A.D to 100 A.D range) combined with the main character's christian overtones was at least supposed to make us think that the Crucifixion of Christ played into the Space Jockey's decision to wipe us out.

But whatever, the film was still a major let-down.

Doggcow
06-11-2012, 10:10 AM
I'm pretty much right there with you on the Prometheus thing. Ridley Scott is not always subtle with his metaphors and I'm pretty sure he was smacking us over the head with that one. So yeah, the Space Jockey who seeded earth with his own genetic Code was probably doing so without express consent of their Hierarchy.

And I'm pretty certain that given the timing of the Space Jockey's decision to launch a biological attack on earth and wipe out humanity (roughly 2000 years before 2092, so right in the 33 A.D to 100 A.D range) combined with the main character's christian overtones was at least supposed to make us think that the Crucifixion of Christ played into the Space Jockey's decision to wipe us out.

But whatever, the film was still a major let-down.

But there has to be another factor. I mean, you don't just forget about something like that for 2000 years do you?

v2micca
06-11-2012, 10:16 AM
But there has to be another factor. I mean, you don't just forget about something like that for 2000 years do you?

They didn't forget. They lost control of their weapons and had to initiate a quarantine shutdown. The one surviving Space Jockey was still pretty keen on wiping out humanity once they woke him up.

As for why the rest of the Space Jockey race never sent a follow-up mission to wipe us out once the original proved to be a massive failure? You got me, I just assumed their bureaucracy is every bit as hellish as ours.

TheChamp24
06-11-2012, 10:32 AM
I thought the movie was decent, great, no, but decent.
PS, SPOILER ALERT

I think everybody forgets the first scene with the alien drinking the stuff that eventually broke him down, killing him, and giving life to what we can lead to believe be Earth. Also, the space thing takes off of Earth, so maybe he was dropped off by others.

Now, there are loads of questions unanswered, that makes it interesting. I mean, why were the four aliens running through the tunnel, and through the door?

Now, I think I recall reading about how these aliens were in a war, and needing soldiers/weapon to fight with, "created" the Aliens. Maybe, they created us as guinea pigs to see what they could do with us, and once they harbored the creation the Alien, were going to use us to create a billion+ of them to fight their wars. Obviously the Aliens can not be controlled, so it would be a futile plan.

Tombstone RJ
06-11-2012, 03:51 PM
The space jockey in the orignal Alien move had a hole in his chest where an alien had popped out of him... so how does that play into this movie?

Doggcow
06-11-2012, 03:56 PM
The space jockey in the orignal Alien move had a hole in his chest where an alien had popped out of him... so how does that play into this movie?

Different Space Jockey. They weren't at the same crash site (totally different planet than what they were on in Prometheus). No correlation yet other than the Aliens were -kind of- like the ones we know from the series.

Chris
06-11-2012, 10:41 PM
I saw it last night and really dug it. I had low expectations. Fassbender was just ****ing perfect again. Noomi Rapace was very good. In fact, I enjoyed all the acting except Logan Marshall Green's (the other scientist).

It's not a profound movie but I thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish. Oh and space jockeys look awesome.

snowspot66
06-12-2012, 05:53 PM
If it wasn't for the complete lack of common sense you would expect in a bunch of scientists exploring an alien world in 2094 then I could have been cool with it all.

"Oooohh alien creature thing I've never seen before, I'm going to pet it".

It took them two minutes to dive into the site. It would have taken me two years to open the ****ing door. The worst scientists in the history of science. All of them. It's like they took a dozen people with PhD's and switched them with the crew of Jackass.

HooptyHoops
06-12-2012, 06:12 PM
I thought the movie was decent, great, no, but decent.
PS, SPOILER ALERT

I think everybody forgets the first scene with the alien drinking the stuff that eventually broke him down, killing him, and giving life to what we can lead to believe be Earth. Also, the space thing takes off of Earth, so maybe he was dropped off by others.

Now, there are loads of questions unanswered, that makes it interesting. I mean, why were the four aliens running through the tunnel, and through the door?

Now, I think I recall reading about how these aliens were in a war, and needing soldiers/weapon to fight with, "created" the Aliens. Maybe, they created us as guinea pigs to see what they could do with us, and once they harbored the creation the Alien, were going to use us to create a billion+ of them to fight their wars. Obviously the Aliens can not be controlled, so it would be a futile plan.

This is what I don't get...plus, all the aliens that were piled up infront of another door? And yet, the 'captians' apartment had nothing showing of the craziness that seemed to happen. What scared all the other aliens, but didn't touch the captain's apartment? Goofy, and weird.

SouthStndJunkie
06-12-2012, 06:20 PM
I'll be going to see 'Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter' when it comes out next week.

I loved the book and look forward to seeing if they did the movie the way it should be.

The previews look pretty good from what I've seen.

Wes Mantooth
06-12-2012, 06:38 PM
If it wasn't for the complete lack of common sense you would expect in a bunch of scientists exploring an alien world in 2094 then I could have been cool with it all.

"Oooohh alien creature thing I've never seen before, I'm going to pet it".

It took them two minutes to dive into the site. It would have taken me two years to open the ****ing door. The worst scientists in the history of science. All of them. It's like they took a dozen people with PhD's and switched them with the crew of Jackass.

I like how they turned down taking weapons in the name of science.

broncosteven
06-12-2012, 08:33 PM
I went despite my friend who works on sci-fi movies (he was working on robopocalypse before it was put on hold) said he didn't like it.

I am glad I went. Sure it wasn't script heavy and left a lot of questions and the ending seemed tacked together at the very last minute but it was beautiful and elicited a couple of emotions I haven't felt at movies for a long time.

I was in awe of the movie universe, it was absolutely beautiful, I felt joy, awe, was grossed out so much I thought I was going to pass out during the operation. It was well worth the money we paid to see it.

I was really disappointed in the music, they could have really done a lot more there and I just could not believe that the girl with the dragon tattoo could jump around after a self inflicted C-section with just staples. It would have taken some sort of Star Trek Next Gen healing device to make that remotely believeable. I had a laproscopic(?) procedure and it took me a day to get out of bed and 4 more to be able to shower on my own.

I really liked Fassbender(?) as the robot and dug the Lawrence of Arabia quotes. Idris Elba was great as the captain, I wasn't into girl with the dragon tattoo as Shaw but she worked hard at it.

I thought they could have found someone older to play the old guy, he looked like a young guy in lots of makeup. John Hurt or Malcom McDowel would have been perfect in that role.

Go see it in the theater, I don't know if it would be as good on DVD at home.

Personally I got more enjoyment and felt more while watching Prometheus than I did with Avatar but I didn't see Avatar in the theater. Not saying it is better than Avatar but it was a fun ride.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-12-2012, 10:37 PM
I'll be going to see 'Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter' when it comes out next week.

I loved the book and look forward to seeing if they did the movie the way it should be.

The previews look pretty good from what I've seen.

I dont know how anyone loved that book. I actually opted at one point to stare at a wall in an airport rather than continue to read it. I just dont get the vampire thing.

SouthStndJunkie
06-12-2012, 10:51 PM
I dont know how anyone loved that book. I actually opted at one point to stare at a wall in an airport rather than continue to read it. I just dont get the vampire thing.

It was a good quick entertaining read for me.

Is it a masterpiece of literature?

Of course not, but it was a fun and entertaining book.

SonOfLe-loLang
06-12-2012, 11:14 PM
It was a good quick entertaining read for me.

Is it a masterpiece of literature?

Of course not, but it was a fun and entertaining book.

I guess its just not my thing. I seriously sweated through 80 pages of it before i cried mercy

hambone13
06-13-2012, 12:55 AM
I keep hearing how disappointing this was and then to read it on the mane....I guess I'm glad I didn't go.

I agree with many of the people who have mentioned that the character development was lacking and that the "Director's Cut" has a high potential for being better. With all of that in mind, I thought the movie was a blast to watch. I didn't go in with high expectations and I came away, entertained and recommending it to my friends of like sci-fi mentality. It's rare that a sci-fi is worth seeing on the big screen and I think you would be robbing yourself of not doing so. If you're a sci-fi nut it's not a waste of money, at all. Honestly, I would put it in my top 10 for entertainment. It's worth taking the time, just don't expect it to be the next Alien. Expectations are always killers. We need to remember that we are just looking to be entertained for a couple of hours. See it, it's worth the dough IMO.

hambone13
06-13-2012, 12:58 AM
I don't understand all the hate this movie is getting. Just saw it last night and loved it. Every criticism I've seen could be made about the original, which is now viewed as an absolute classic....one of the best movies ever for the genre.

This movie had three incredible performances IMO: Charlize, Noomie and most of all Fassbender. They absolutely nailed their roles.

On top of all that, this was far and away the best use of 3D of any movie since Avatar. Just beautiful.

It answered all the questions I had going in and a few more that were presented throughout the movie. Did it tack on a few more that went unanswered? Sure. But those will be dealt with in the sequel, which I really hope will follow.

This. I really liked it too. The criticisms are a bit ridiculous to me. I thought it was damn good.

v2micca
06-13-2012, 05:19 AM
The Guys at Penny-Arcade weigh in with some very specific advice concerning the film.

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/06/13

hambone13
06-13-2012, 05:48 AM
The Guys at Penny-Arcade weigh in with some very specific advice concerning the film.

http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/06/13

That's insulting. You shouldn't even be allowed on the Mane.

bronco militia
06-19-2012, 07:58 AM
I thought Prometheus was awesome. It did a nice job of connecting the 4 other films.

baja
06-19-2012, 08:33 AM
Saw it last night. Could have been a great movie but fell far short. Seems like the script was written not to to develop character but to set up special effects. This movie really needed to be two movies. It moved too fast through the necessary sequences. The characters were making absurd choices in an unknown world that even allowing for poetic license was just too preposterous. Much of this could have been fixed had they decided to make two movies out of this one and had them come out about 2 months apart. Special effects are amazing but that is the only reason to see this movie.

baja
06-19-2012, 08:45 AM
Word on the street in Hollywood is that this is the case, as seems to be the norm now with anything Scott does. He makes the movie he wants to make, then cuts the hell out of it to satisfy the studio/theater owners and doesn't worry about what the result is. Kind of a crummy way of doing business, but hard to blame Riddley as he was sick and tired of constantly fighting the studios.

Interesting that is what the end product looked like, movie destroyed by the editing room.

baja
06-19-2012, 08:53 AM
I'm pretty much right there with you on the Prometheus thing. Ridley Scott is not always subtle with his metaphors and I'm pretty sure he was smacking us over the head with that one. So yeah, the Space Jockey who seeded earth with his own genetic Code was probably doing so without express consent of their Hierarchy.

And I'm pretty certain that given the timing of the Space Jockey's decision to launch a biological attack on earth and wipe out humanity (roughly 2000 years before 2092, so right in the 33 A.D to 100 A.D range) combined with the main character's christian overtones was at least supposed to make us think that the Crucifixion of Christ played into the Space Jockey's decision to wipe us out.

But whatever, the film was still a major let-down.

Good point Maybe this movie will set up a great sequel or two.

BroncoMan4ever
06-19-2012, 10:55 PM
This is what I don't get...plus, all the aliens that were piled up infront of another door? And yet, the 'captians' apartment had nothing showing of the craziness that seemed to happen. What scared all the other aliens, but didn't touch the captain's apartment? Goofy, and weird.

i guess the plan is that there will be 2 more movies in the Prometheus(alien prequel) universe that will answer the questions and complete the connection to Alien.

i truly hope there is a director's cut of this that re-inserts deleted scenes, because the theater version seemed like it was missing a lot of necessary information. also, when i say director's cut, i mean 1 single definitive director's cut, not multiple versions like Ridley Scott did with Blade Runner.

BroncoMan4ever
06-19-2012, 11:03 PM
I'm pretty much right there with you on the Prometheus thing. Ridley Scott is not always subtle with his metaphors and I'm pretty sure he was smacking us over the head with that one. So yeah, the Space Jockey who seeded earth with his own genetic Code was probably doing so without express consent of their Hierarchy.

And I'm pretty certain that given the timing of the Space Jockey's decision to launch a biological attack on earth and wipe out humanity (roughly 2000 years before 2092, so right in the 33 A.D to 100 A.D range) combined with the main character's christian overtones was at least supposed to make us think that the Crucifixion of Christ played into the Space Jockey's decision to wipe us out.

But whatever, the film was still a major let-down.

i read that in the script that there was a direct scene that basically said Jesus Christ was an Engineer, sent to check on their experiment and that because we crucified him, we pissed off our makers(God).

You can read the quotes from Scott here. Kind of an interesting article as a whole on what the hell was happening in Prometheus.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/did-ridley-scott-just-ruin-the-mysteries-of-prometheus-20120614

R-Mac
06-20-2012, 12:15 AM
Yep, very disappointing movie. Not worth the hype. But... Nice visual effects.

v2micca
06-20-2012, 06:21 AM
I guess a person's ability to enjoy this film really comes down to what you want. Is there a ton of layered meaning, symbols and metaphysical questioning? Yeah, the thing is basically one big allegory. But like in an allegory, the characters are driven lest by individual motivations and more by the symbolic meaning behind their action. That is why you have the Biologist guy reaching out to the snake creature. Not because it makes any logical sense for a sane rational man to do so, but because it symbolically harkens back to the serpent in the Garden of Eden offering forbidden knowledge to humans. Same concept with David spiking Halloways drink with the black substance. It was less about the motivation of the characters and more about the symbolism (the finger tip to finger tip creation motif that pretty much everyone have cribbed from Michaelangelo since he finished the Sistine Chapel)

So yeah, if this is your kind of thing, I guess I can see how some people are defending the film. But it just doesn't work for me. It comes off pretentious and trite at the same time. I like my stories to be character driven, instead of archetypal stand-ins for a morality play. I prefer the theme to serve the narrative, not the other way around. Sigh, the irony is that I have spent far more time discussing this film than films I have actually enjoyed this Summer.

lolcopter
06-20-2012, 09:03 AM
Saw Prometheus on Monday

First half of the movie was awesome, everything following dr. Shaw's operation was pretty comical/ridiculous

Poorly written and very little character development, but it raises fun talking points and it makes you connect the dots in a certain way

3.5 stars imo

Tombstone RJ
06-20-2012, 09:18 AM
I guess a person's ability to enjoy this film really comes down to what you want. Is there a ton of layered meaning, symbols and metaphysical questioning? Yeah, the thing is basically one big allegory. But like in an allegory, the characters are driven lest by individual motivations and more by the symbolic meaning behind their action. That is why you have the Biologist guy reaching out to the snake creature. Not because it makes any logical sense for a sane rational man to do so, but because it symbolically harkens back to the serpent in the Garden of Eden offering forbidden knowledge to humans. Same concept with David spiking Halloways drink with the black substance. It was less about the motivation of the characters and more about the symbolism (the finger tip to finger tip creation motif that pretty much everyone have cribbed from Michaelangelo since he finished the Sistine Chapel)

So yeah, if this is your kind of thing, I guess I can see how some people are defending the film. But it just doesn't work for me. It comes off pretentious and trite at the same time. I like my stories to be character driven, instead of archetypal stand-ins for a morality play. I prefer the theme to serve the narrative, not the other way around. Sigh, the irony is that I have spent far more time discussing this film than films I have actually enjoyed this Summer.


This. I just saw the movie and while it had some good moments, overall I was disappointed. Scenes were definitely cut way short so I'm 100% convinced a longer version of the film will be out within a year or so. Like others have said, this group of "scientists" broke so many common sense rules that the film just seemed too manufactured. That is, it was in fast forward the whole time. I do hope an extended version comes out soon, another 30-45mins or so would be nice in order to see a better overall story.

Doggcow
06-20-2012, 01:26 PM
This. I just saw the movie and while it had some good moments, overall I was disappointed. Scenes were definitely cut way short so I'm 100% convinced a longer version of the film will be out within a year or so. Like others have said, this group of "scientists" broke so many common sense rules that the film just seemed too manufactured. That is, it was in fast forward the whole time. I do hope an extended version comes out soon, another 30-45mins or so would be nice in order to see a better overall story.

What, you're saying letting a guy walking like a crab into the ship was a bad idea?

Fedaykin
06-20-2012, 01:30 PM
Saw this movie a few days ago. i was heavily dissapointed. In addition to the common sense issues, I had a huge problem with the sequence:


* Scientist chick gets impregnated with an alien
* Android goes all psycho mad scientist on her
* Scientist does the surgery to remove alien baby
* Scientist returns to the rest of the crew like nothing happened, even allowing the psycho android to "comfort" her.

Not even a "hey guys, this android guy just tried to use me as a lab experiment and I'm pretty sure he infected my boyfriend."


WTF?!?

lolcopter
06-20-2012, 01:43 PM
Saw this movie a few days ago. i was heavily dissapointed. In addition to the common sense issues, I had a huge problem with the sequence:


* Scientist chick gets impregnated with an alien
* Android goes all psycho mad scientist on her
* Scientist does the surgery to remove alien baby
* Scientist returns to the rest of the crew like nothing happened, even allowing the psycho android to "comfort" her.

Not even a "hey guys, this android guy just tried to use me as a lab experiment and I'm pretty sure he infected my boyfriend."


WTF?!?

That and the alien squid thing grows exponentially fast over the course of a few hours. The engineer that crashes the first ship decides killing shaw is more important than hopping aboard another one of the other ships and continuing with the mission. The biologist doesn't want to study biology. Where did the worms come from? Where did the ladder that outside the tomb come from? Etc etc etc

Lots of plot holes and inconsistencies

Chris
06-20-2012, 02:48 PM
That and the alien squid thing grows exponentially fast over the course of a few hours. The engineer that crashes the first ship decides killing shaw is more important than hopping aboard another one of the other ships and continuing with the mission. The biologist doesn't want to study biology. Where did the worms come from? Where did the ladder that outside the tomb come from? Etc etc etc

Lots of plot holes and inconsistencies

nerds.

BroncoMan4ever
06-20-2012, 03:04 PM
Saw this movie a few days ago. i was heavily dissapointed. In addition to the common sense issues, I had a huge problem with the sequence:


* Scientist chick gets impregnated with an alien
* Android goes all psycho mad scientist on her
* Scientist does the surgery to remove alien baby
* Scientist returns to the rest of the crew like nothing happened, even allowing the psycho android to "comfort" her.

Not even a "hey guys, this android guy just tried to use me as a lab experiment and I'm pretty sure he infected my boyfriend."



WTF?!?

by the time she was done gutting herself, Weyland had made himself known to the crew. No one was left who would care that David was doing this stuff, as it can be inferred that everything he was doing was in efforts to keep Weyland alive.

the only person she could have said anything to was Charlize Theron's character, but being as she was Weyland's daughter she wouldn't care, and I still think she was a robot herself. She and David looked far too similar to one another, and had the same way of carrying themselves, and same lack of empathy towards most crew members. Add in that David considered himself Weyland's son, it is plausible that another robot would consider herself Weyland's daughter. Also the surgical pod being set only for MALE patients, when realistically a piece of machinery that advanced should be capable of working on Males and Females, led me to thinking that there would be no need to have a female setting on it, as there is no point in it, since the female in possession of the machine was a robot.

BroncoMan4ever
06-20-2012, 03:11 PM
That and the alien squid thing grows exponentially fast over the course of a few hours. The engineer that crashes the first ship decides killing shaw is more important than hopping aboard another one of the other ships and continuing with the mission. The biologist doesn't want to study biology. Where did the worms come from? Where did the ladder that outside the tomb come from? Etc etc etc

Lots of plot holes and inconsistencies

the mutated face hugger looking thing growing that fast i have no idea for that, and no idea why the biologist was all like "**** that, i won't do biology on these organisms"

killing Shaw is important though. if by some chance Shaw is able to get away, she can in theory get to earth, and warn of what happened to the rest of the crew and what is about to happen with the engineer coming to unleash a biological weapon that would kill all of humanity. because of that, it makes sense that the engineer came to kill her and then was going to go get in the other ship and complete his mission.

Beantown Bronco
06-20-2012, 03:16 PM
the mutated face hugger looking thing growing that fast i have no idea for that

I stopped questioning the growth rate of aliens after the first Alien. That thing grew from the size of a guinea pig to larger than human size in 24 hrs.

Tombstone RJ
06-20-2012, 09:46 PM
by the time she was done gutting herself, Weyland had made himself known to the crew. No one was left who would care that David was doing this stuff, as it can be inferred that everything he was doing was in efforts to keep Weyland alive.

the only person she could have said anything to was Charlize Theron's character, but being as she was Weyland's daughter she wouldn't care, and I still think she was a robot herself. She and David looked far too similar to one another, and had the same way of carrying themselves, and same lack of empathy towards most crew members. Add in that David considered himself Weyland's son, it is plausible that another robot would consider herself Weyland's daughter. Also the surgical pod being set only for MALE patients, when realistically a piece of machinery that advanced should be capable of working on Males and Females, led me to thinking that there would be no need to have a female setting on it, as there is no point in it, since the female in possession of the machine was a robot.

Well, Theron's character had sex with the black guy, the pilot, right? After all, he asks her straight up if she's a robot. This is of course after he proposes they do the nasty. Her reply to him was "meet me in my room in 10 minutes." So I'm guessing they had sex, yes?

SouthStndJunkie
06-20-2012, 09:50 PM
Well, Theron's character had sex with the black guy, the pilot, right? After all, he asks her straight up if she's a robot. This is of course after he proposes they do the nasty. Her reply to him was "meet me in my room in 10 minutes." So I'm guessing they had sex, yes?

Did she walk around funny the rest of the movie?

BroncoMan4ever
06-20-2012, 09:51 PM
Well, Theron's character had sex with the black guy, the pilot, right? After all, he asks her straight up if she's a robot. This is of course after he proposes they do the nasty. Her reply to him was "meet me in my room in 10 minutes." So I'm guessing they had sex, yes?

yes it can be assumed they had sex, but who is to say in the future you can't **** a robot? obviously the robots are created as mimics of humans in appearance, but it has never delved into exactly how closely they mirror human anatomy. also, with that in mind, sex while implied was never truly given an answer, and whether or not they had sex she still never said implicitly whether or not she was a robot.

Tombstone RJ
06-20-2012, 09:55 PM
Did she walk around funny the rest of the movie?

:rofl:

The first scene she is in, she is doing push ups and sweating profusely. If she's an android she sweats when she works out.

baja
06-20-2012, 10:11 PM
Well, Theron's character had sex with the black guy, the pilot, right? After all, he asks her straight up if she's a robot. This is of course after he proposes they do the nasty. Her reply to him was "meet me in my room in 10 minutes." So I'm guessing they had sex, yes?

That was the implication. I think we will see her in the next one she will survive much like david did.

Tombstone RJ
06-20-2012, 10:24 PM
That was the implication. I think we will see her in the next one she will survive much like david did.

that was another kind of stupid scene in the movie, when Shaw and Theron's character are running from the wreckage of the alien space craft. The thing is rolling like a wheel and they are running right in the path that it is rolling. Why don't they just turn and run to the side of the wheel?

That was a little frustrating to watch.

R-Mac
06-20-2012, 10:30 PM
The movie has several stupid scenes.

baja
06-20-2012, 10:35 PM
that was another kind of stupid scene in the movie, when Shaw and Theron's character are running from the wreckage of the alien space craft. The thing is rolling like a wheel and they are running right in the path that it is rolling. Why don't they just turn and run to the side of the wheel?

That was a little frustrating to watch.


The doctor removing his helmet was even more ridiculous. You discover a eerily deserted base of sorts on a strange planet and you say, "Hey I bet the air is good, the instrument says there is ample oxygen. I'm gonna expose myself to this environment. I'm just sure there are no deadly air born disease here. "

baja
06-20-2012, 10:40 PM
The idiot bad boy angry personality of the geologist was dumb and totally unnecessary. I am sure that unstable hot head would be the first choice of the thousands that would like to have signed on for the adventure. Then both the geologist and the biologist at the first sign of something unnerving are ready to run to the ship. That personality type would have been washed out at the phycological testing stage.

Beantown Bronco
06-21-2012, 07:31 AM
:rofl:

The first scene she is in, she is doing push ups and sweating profusely. If she's an android she sweats when she works out.

And they went out of their way to note that androids don't breathe. She did throughout the movie, most notably in that scene. And androids don't use the cryo tubes during the trip. She did.

manchambo
06-21-2012, 10:07 AM
And they went out of their way to note that androids don't breathe. She did throughout the movie, most notably in that scene. And androids don't use the cryo tubes during the trip. She did.

But they also went out of their way to note that David wore a spacesuit to make humans comfortable. If Theron was a robot and trying to keep it secret she would go into the cryo tube etc to cover it up.

Beantown Bronco
06-21-2012, 10:10 AM
But they also went out of their way to note that David wore a spacesuit to make humans comfortable. If Theron was a robot and trying to keep it secret she would go into the cryo tube etc to cover it up.

She was the first one out. No human actually saw her in it anyway.

And that still wouldn't explain the breathing, especially when she was working out alone.

manchambo
06-21-2012, 10:49 AM
She was the first one out. No human actually saw her in it anyway.

And that still wouldn't explain the breathing, especially when she was working out alone.

I'm not aware of David not breathing (in the sense of his chest not moving up and down) though I wasn't really looking for it. And it only makes sense that he would mimick that human behavior. And of course it isn't physically possible that they filmed the movie without the actor breathing.

Beantown Bronco
06-21-2012, 10:53 AM
I'm not aware of David not breathing (in the sense of his chest not moving up and down) though I wasn't really looking for it. And it only makes sense that he would mimick that human behavior. And of course it isn't physically possible that they filmed the movie without the actor breathing.

After he mentioned it in the spacesuit scene, I specifically looked for it the rest of the movie....assuming I'd catch him messing up at some point. He didn't. It was really amazing actually. He was either able to hold his breath or control his breathing while on camera for full body shots (which IS possible, given that the average shot only lasts a few seconds....one is never truly on camera for minutes at a time without a break away), or his clothing was customized in such a way to hide his breathing. Either way, I didn't see him breathe at all, and I was looking for it.

Drunk Monkey
06-21-2012, 11:02 AM
The doctor removing his helmet was even more ridiculous. You discover a eerily deserted base of sorts on a strange planet and you say, "Hey I bet the air is good, the instrument says there is ample oxygen. I'm gonna expose myself to this environment. I'm just sure there are no deadly air born disease here. "

That also bothered me. No reasonable person would have done that. This movie could have been so much better with some minor changes. It stinks of compromise. To many chiefs and not enough Indians involved in this project.

Natedogg
09-23-2012, 06:44 AM
14 minutes of deleted scenes have been released...

The scene when the Engineer wakes up is especially interesting...

http://blastr.com/2012/09/gorge-yourself-silly-on-1.php

Rock Chalk
09-23-2012, 08:33 AM
Avengers > Prometheus

Punisher
09-23-2012, 09:08 AM
http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img5/Dredd3DJockPosterWhiteBigfull5601.jpg

Instant Classic No bull****