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Rohirrim
05-10-2012, 10:11 AM
John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it.

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a prep school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-prep-school-classmates-recall-pranks-but-also-troubling-incidents/2012/05/10/gIQA3WOKFU_story.html

Traveler
05-10-2012, 10:54 AM
John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it.

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a prep school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-prep-school-classmates-recall-pranks-but-also-troubling-incidents/2012/05/10/gIQA3WOKFU_story.html

OMG! Romney committed a hate crime!

alkemical
05-10-2012, 10:56 AM
http://www.dangerousminds.net/images/uploads/mittfudgeokokhuhugy.jpg

El Minion
05-10-2012, 11:19 AM
Everyone as a teenager has done or said something they have regretted later as an adult, but then again the characteristic and context of the quality and quantity of those actions doesn't belie the true nature of one's character. You can see the dots being connected with Romney assaulting a gay classmate to his callous disregard of his dog Seamus to Romney bankrupting companies and job destruction at Bain Capital.

DenverBrit
05-10-2012, 11:39 AM
http://www.dangerousminds.net/images/uploads/mittfudgeokokhuhugy.jpg

Is Romney about to 'come out' in favor of Gay marriage? ;D

alkemical
05-10-2012, 11:44 AM
He makes the best photo's.

DenverBrit
05-10-2012, 11:47 AM
He makes the best photo's.

Doesn't he though. ;D

http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/e/K/4/romney-diapers.jpghttp://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/O/4/romney-job-creator.jpg

alkemical
05-10-2012, 11:58 AM
it's fantastic, and a bit scary.

Traveler
05-10-2012, 12:00 PM
Everyone as a teenager has done or said something they have regretted later as an adult, but then again the characteristic and context of the quality and quantity of those actions doesn't belie the true nature of one's character. You can see the dots being connected with Romney assaulting a gay classmate to his callous disregard of his dog Seamus to Romney bankrupting companies and job destruction at Bain Capital.

And now for the obligatory apology/denial most politicians issue....



Romney apologizes for high school 'pranks,' says doesn't recall hair-cutting incident.

Published May 10, 2012
FoxNews.com


Romney, though, told Fox News Radio Thursday he doesn't recall that specific incident, and certainly did not know the student was gay.

"I don't remember that incident," he said. "And I'll tell you I certainly don't believe that I ... thought the fellow was homosexual. That was the furthest thing from our minds back in the 1960s, so that was not the case."


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/10/romney-apologizes-for-high-school-pranks/?intcmp=trending#ixzz1uUjdsHnm

Amazing how one of the people who held the kid down remembers the incident, but Mitt doesn't. Selective amnesia I guess. Most politicos have it.

Rohirrim
05-10-2012, 12:04 PM
And now for the obligatory apology/denial most politicians issue....



Romney apologizes for high school 'pranks,' says doesn't recall hair-cutting incident.

Published May 10, 2012
FoxNews.com





Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/10/romney-apologizes-for-high-school-pranks/?intcmp=trending#ixzz1uUjdsHnm

Amazing how one of the people who held the kid down remembers the incident, but Mitt doesn't. Selective amnesia I guess. Most politicos have it.

That he says he doesn't even remember it is probably more disturbing than the act itself. If I had done something like that in high school, I sure as hell would have remembered it. A high school "prank" is dumping a container of salt in somebody's milk, or putting something stinky in their locker.

My favorite Republican denial, "Well, IF anybody was offended, then I apologize."

peacepipe
05-10-2012, 12:12 PM
That he says he doesn't even remember it is probably more disturbing than the act itself. If I had done something like that in high school, I sure as hell would have remembered it. A high school "prank" is dumping a container of salt in somebody's milk, or putting something stinky in their locker.

My favorite Republican denial, "Well, IF anybody was offended, then I apologize."he doesn't deny it. just says i don't remember. you don't forget something like that. he just doesn't have a good answer for it.

Rohirrim
05-10-2012, 12:14 PM
http://www.dangerousminds.net/images/uploads/mittfudgeokokhuhugy.jpg

Look at those eyebrows. Photoshop a handlebar mustache and a top hat on him and he's the spitting image of Snidely Whiplash.

peacepipe
05-10-2012, 12:35 PM
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-camp-asks-high-school-friend-to-issue

3:00 PM EDT, Thursday May 10, 2012
Report: Romney Camp Asks High School Friend To Issue Supporting Remarks
The Romney campaign has approached one of Mitt Romney’s closest high school friends and asked him to give “supporting remarks” about Romney after a Washington Post story detailed a bullying incident from Romney’s time at the Cranbrook School, reports ABC News.

The friend, Stu White, told ABC he is still deciding whether he will help the campaign. White was not present when the specific incident in the Post story – in which Romney and others held down a fellow student presumed to be gay and cut his hair – took place. White told ABC that he knew several other classmates had also been contacted by the campaign and asked to counter the article’s portrayal of Romney.
it seems since willard can't deny it, he's hoping someonelse can speak for him on it. willard always seems to look to somebody to speak for him on any tough issue. the fact that this guy stu white has to actually think about wether he'll step up for romney says alot.either that or he's negotiating a monetary value for speaking on romneys behalf.

Garcia Bronco
05-10-2012, 12:56 PM
OMG if I caught someone doing that to someone else I'd beat them about the head and neck.

TonyR
05-10-2012, 01:13 PM
This is a fair and reasonable take on the whole thing:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/bulle/2012/05/romney_s_bullying_how_bad_was_the_vicious_incident _reported_by_the_washington_post_.html


This was interesting:

It’s also worth pointing out, as Salon’s Glenn Greenwald has, that as a Yale sophomore in 1965, George W. Bush reportedly stuck up for a reputedly gay student. Bush heard the student being called “queer,” told the taunters to shut up, and apparently also said, “Why don’t you try walking in his shoes for a while?” That’s the kind of instinctive compassion Mitt Romney failed to show when he was a few years younger than Bush was.

Rohirrim
05-10-2012, 02:01 PM
This "lack of empathy" issue seems to be following Romney like a hungry dog, so to speak. ;D

The Lone Bolt
05-10-2012, 02:11 PM
This "lack of empathy" issue seems to be following Romney like a hungry dog, so to speak. ;D

Like a hungry dog on a car roof, so to speak. ;D

DenverBrit
05-10-2012, 02:24 PM
he doesn't deny it. just says i don't remember. you don't forget something like that. he just doesn't have a good answer for it.

It's the Reagan effect.

Pony Boy
05-10-2012, 02:36 PM
The text comes directly from President Obama’s first memoir, “Dreams From My Father” and recounts an incident which occurred while he was in middle school. When our president became the subject of taunts from his fellow classmates, [B]he decided to shove a little girl named Coretta. Although he chronicles his feelings of regret, he never does not offer her an apology.

Rohirrim
05-10-2012, 02:40 PM
The text comes directly from President Obama’s first memoir, “Dreams From My Father” and recounts an incident which occurred while he was in middle school. When our president became the subject of taunts from his fellow classmates, [B]he decided to shove a little girl named Coretta. Although he chronicles his feelings of regret, he never does not offer her an apology.

Ha! Man, that's really weak.

DenverBrit
05-10-2012, 02:45 PM
The text comes directly from President Obama’s first memoir, “Dreams From My Father” and recounts an incident which occurred while he was in middle school. When our president became the subject of taunts from his fellow classmates, [B]he decided to shove a little girl named Coretta. Although he chronicles his feelings of regret, he never does not offer her an apology.

He should have pushed her to the ground, held her down and cut off her hair.

What was she thinking, looking like that?

cutthemdown
05-10-2012, 02:48 PM
Dems can't win on issues this election. Good plan to make it about character. Who cares though Obama was a coke head in college.

Pony Boy
05-10-2012, 02:50 PM
Ha! Man, that's really weak.

The text says she was plump and friendless. So Obama bullied an already suffering girl .......... and didn't even say he was sorry.

Pony Boy
05-10-2012, 02:51 PM
This "lack of empathy" issue seems to be following Romney like a hungry dog, so to speak. ;D

It might make Obama hungry for some dog.

cutthemdown
05-10-2012, 03:16 PM
Meh all of us have been bullies at some point in school. Great politics by dems though you have to admire that if you follow the game. You announce gay marriage, then next day story breaks about Romney being a bully to what may have been a gay kid is HS. Brilliant. No matter what you have to admire the Chicago style politics Obama engages in. He is a true master of avoiding issues that hurt him, and getting media to focus on what he wants.

W*GS
05-10-2012, 03:17 PM
Meh all of us have been bullies at some point in school.

Speak for yourself.

Paladin
05-10-2012, 03:26 PM
The OP is right, I have to revise my statement about Romney.

"Romney has the balls of a sociopathic plastic gnat."




(This message was typed without the aid of Mrs. TOG's nipples.)

El Minion
05-10-2012, 03:27 PM
The text comes directly from President Obama’s first memoir, “Dreams From My Father” and recounts an incident which occurred while he was in middle school. When our president became the subject of taunts from his fellow classmates, [B]he decided to shove a little girl named Coretta. Although he chronicles his feelings of regret, he never does not offer her an apology.

Really? Comparing a 12-13 year old child actions to 17-18 year old young adult? A slight shove to organizing a mob to physically assault another class mate? Obama owning up to his childhood mistakes by writing a book about it, to Romney never mentioning it or recalling the assault and asking others to speak on his behalf to defend his actions? Really? Let me guess, you are the type of republican that compares rape with the weather and advises women "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it".

https://www.texasobserver.org/media/k2/items/cache/4c8bab0c79df5950a6e6f4aa52832976_XL.jpg

Brought to by the Clayton Williams method for supporting raped and yet to be raped women.

cutthemdown
05-10-2012, 03:31 PM
Speak for yourself.

So you made it all the way through school never picking a fight? Never teasing someone?

cutthemdown
05-10-2012, 03:33 PM
I wonder if we can find the people Obama snorted coke with. They probably have some good stories. Or we could just stick to real issues.

Paladin
05-10-2012, 03:49 PM
I think having the balls of a sociopathic plastic gnat is a real issue.


Also, you seem to be projecting on the coke stuff, Cut. Wait until you sober up before you post again, will you? Please.


(This message was typed without the aid of Mrs. TOG's nipples.)

Bob
05-10-2012, 04:22 PM
John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it.

“He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a prep school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-prep-school-classmates-recall-pranks-but-also-troubling-incidents/2012/05/10/gIQA3WOKFU_story.html

I heard that Romney once spit on the sidewalk -- IN PUBLIC!!!!

In 3 months time you will be posting about how Romney ate a dog or something. You really need to stick with how he is an evil capitalist, and how Marxism is more American.

Pony Boy
05-10-2012, 06:28 PM
Really? Let me guess, you are the type of republican that compares rape with the weather and advises women "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it".

Brought to by the Clayton Williams method for supporting raped and yet to be raped women.

Wow, how you can turn this thread into anything to do with rape is beyond me. You must have some serious butt-hurt issues, what happened did you get beat up and raped by your boy friend ......LOL

Rohirrim
05-10-2012, 06:36 PM
I heard that Romney once spit on the sidewalk -- IN PUBLIC!!!!

In 3 months time you will be posting about how Romney ate a dog or something. You really need to stick with how he is an evil capitalist, and how Marxism is more American.

Gee. I thought you were the guy who sits outside the process, favoring neither side.

:spit: j/k

W*GS
05-10-2012, 06:39 PM
So you made it all the way through school never picking a fight? Never teasing someone?

Yep. I was more mature than that.

I got laid instead.

TonyR
05-10-2012, 07:07 PM
...Or we could just stick to real issues.

Yes, we should talk about how Romney is re-forming the Bush/Cheney neocon foreign policy team that wants to blow up Iran. And how Romney wants to increase the defense budget while cutting taxes. Things like that should be fun to delve into.

Garcia Bronco
05-10-2012, 07:30 PM
Romney was the anatognist kid from Hot Tub Time Machine:

Bronco_Beerslug
05-10-2012, 07:45 PM
I heard that Romney once spit on the sidewalk -- IN PUBLIC!!!!

In 3 months time you will be posting about how Romney ate a dog or something. You really need to stick with how he is an evil capitalist, and how Marxism is more American.
Defend this or shutup. Romney, if elected, will bomb Iran. You on onboard?

cutthemdown
05-10-2012, 07:53 PM
Yes, we should talk about how Romney is re-forming the Bush/Cheney neocon foreign policy team that wants to blow up Iran. And how Romney wants to increase the defense budget while cutting taxes. Things like that should be fun to delve into.

Those are the real issues. Obama's lack of leadership just what Iran needs to finish the bomb. Also Obama wants to take from people who worked hard and give them money to welfare mammas. These are real issues and I agree they are fun.

Bronco_Beerslug
05-10-2012, 08:11 PM
Those are the real issues. Obama's lack of leadership just what Iran needs to finish the bomb. Also Obama wants to take from people who worked hard and give them money to welfare mammas. These are real issues and I agree they are fun.

You are a fricking idiot, no other way to put it.
Try and and inform you ignorant belligerent arse before posting all this ignorant, Right Wing propaganda BS.

alkemical
05-10-2012, 08:43 PM
Dems can't win on issues this election. Good plan to make it about character. Who cares though Obama was a coke head in college.

W was kicken some coke jaw during press conferences while prez.

cutthemdown
05-10-2012, 08:48 PM
W was kicken some coke jaw during press conferences while prez.

Whats your point?

alkemical
05-10-2012, 08:49 PM
Those are the real issues. Obama's lack of leadership just what Iran needs to finish the bomb. Also Obama wants to take from people who worked hard and give them money to welfare mammas. These are real issues and I agree they are fun.

if you're middle class...you get welfare. enjoy it, it's gonna end soon.

ant1999e
05-10-2012, 08:58 PM
So you made it all the way through school never picking a fight? Never teasing someone?

Explains a lot.

Bronco_Beerslug
05-10-2012, 09:07 PM
Explains a lot.
Exactly what does it explain?....

cutthemdown
05-10-2012, 09:11 PM
Explains a lot.

I'm just honest. Most of us said something mean, got in a fight over something stupid, or excluded kids at school because they weren't cool. You grow up and learn that crap is stupid. True Romney at 17 should have known better. It's not a good story for him.

They are just trying to attack what kind of person i am lol. I don't care. I have tons of high school friends left 30 yrs later and was not known as a mean person. lol. In grade school I had some fights I picked but my dad set me straight rightly.

ant1999e
05-10-2012, 10:35 PM
This whole story is silly. Why we keep playing these petty games is beyond me. But that's what they want is to do. Nevermind the real issues facing this country, let's Biotch about something someone did in high school.
If all they have on Romney is that he put his dog of the roof of a car and teased someone in HIGH SCHOOL, they're really worried.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 06:41 AM
Dems can't win on issues this election. Good plan to make it about character. Who cares though Obama was a coke head in college.

don't get mad that during the 90s republicans made character an issue,& is now part of the deciding factor in electing a president. character does matter none the less.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 06:45 AM
This whole story is silly. Why we keep playing these petty games is beyond me. But that's what they want is to do. Nevermind the real issues facing this country, let's Biotch about something someone did in high school.
If all they have on Romney is that he put his dog of the roof of a car and teased someone in HIGH SCHOOL, they're really worried.

this is just getting started. trust wait til bain comes up, wait til dems ty the republican party to romney.
another things is how poorly willard is handleing this. willard knew this story was comming out weeks ago. willard looked extremely weak answering these questions considering he knew in advance.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 06:52 AM
I'm just honest. Most of us said something mean, got in a fight over something stupid, or excluded kids at school because they weren't cool. You grow up and learn that crap is stupid. True Romney at 17 should have known better. It's not a good story for him.

They are just trying to attack what kind of person i am lol. I don't care. I have tons of high school friends left 30 yrs later and was not known as a mean person. lol. In grade school I had some fights I picked but my dad set me straight rightly.

this is about as pathetic as you can get when it comes to trying to excuse what willard did. he lead some friends to attack,hold down to the ground while the kid was screaming for help & cut his hair. I made fun of some kids growing up,excluded some cause I didn't they were cool but I knew where to draw the line. I never would have croossed that line where I would've assaulted someone. Most people have the common sense to not do something like that.

ant1999e
05-11-2012, 10:17 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/family-of-romneys-alleged-bully-victim-speaks-out-the-portrayal-of-john-is-factually-incorrect/


Isn't the timing of the release of this story convenient? Obama announces his change of heart on same sex marriage and Romney is a gay basher. And the alleged victim passed away in 2004 so he can't confirm or deny the claim. This story is a typical smear campaign. If you don't see that, your either blind or dumb.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 10:28 AM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/family-of-romneys-alleged-bully-victim-speaks-out-the-portrayal-of-john-is-factually-incorrect/


Isn't the timing of the release of this story convenient? Obama announces his change of heart on same sex marriage and Romney is a gay basher. And the alleged victim passed away in 2004 so he can't confirm or deny the claim. This story is a typical smear campaign. If you don't see that, your either blind or dumb.well,unfortunately the people he did this with are confirming it. also the fact that willard is not deny it says it all. I've stated before the willard camp knew this story was comming out weeks ago. another thing is that the wash. post wasn't aware at the time that they were doing the story that the president would be comming out in support for gay marriage the same week that they were going to report this story. I wasn't aware that the wash. post had a political agenda. the wash. post had a story,investigated it,confirmed it,then printed it.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 10:38 AM
another thing to consider in a presidential election is that stories are always going to pop up about a cannidate & as important as the story may or may not be it is even more improtant how you handle it. willard is failing miserably at it.

ant1999e
05-11-2012, 10:46 AM
well,unfortunately the people he did this with are confirming it. also the fact that willard is not deny it says it all. I've stated before the willard camp knew this story was comming out weeks ago. another thing is that the wash. post wasn't aware at the time that they were doing the story that the president would be comming out in support for gay marriage the same week that they were going to report this story. I wasn't aware that the wash. post had a political agenda. the wash. post had a story,investigated it,confirmed it,then printed it.

On the front page... Really, this is the most important news of the day??? And we don't know what the Washington Post knew or didn't know. What news outlet doesn't have a political agenda?
I'm not saying he didn't do it. But really, he was 17 years old. 47 years ago. If he did it, he was wrong and he apologized.
You know this is just more smear tactics. You better hope they have more than this because this was a sorry attempt.

ant1999e
05-11-2012, 10:49 AM
another thing to consider in a presidential election is that stories are always going to pop up about a cannidate & as important as the story may or may not be it is even more improtant how you handle it. willard is failing miserably at it.

What should he do? Kiss a gay man and grow his hair long? He said he doesn't remember doing this but apologized if he did. It was 47 years ago.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 11:14 AM
What should he do? Kiss a gay man and grow his hair long? He said he doesn't remember doing this but apologized if he did. It was 47 years ago.

BS, you don't forget something like that. watch the actual interview it doesn't pass the smell test. whats giving this story legs is his poor handling of it. nobody is buying the story that he doesn't remember,except for you.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 11:20 AM
On the front page... Really, this is the most important news of the day??? And we don't know what the Washington Post knew or didn't know. What news outlet doesn't have a political agenda?
I'm not saying he didn't do it. But really, he was 17 years old. 47 years ago. If he did it, he was wrong and he apologized.
You know this is just more smear tactics. You better hope they have more than this because this was a sorry attempt.

willard is running for president, they didn't go through the trouble of investigating this story just to put it on the back page. being 17 yrs old makes it OK? I wonder how many 17 yr olds who are currently serving time in prison for cimes they commited are now thinking ,wow, had I just reminded the jury I was 17, I would be home free.

Johnykbr
05-11-2012, 11:48 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/05/11/Washington-Post-Romney-Bullying-Profile-Contradicted-By-Automobile-Magazine

More to this story than meets the eye.

El Minion
05-11-2012, 12:30 PM
Wow, how you can turn this thread into anything to do with rape is beyond me. You must have some serious butt-hurt issues, what happened did you get beat up and raped by your boy friend ......LOL


Typical, defend the actions of the assailant and attack the innocent and their defenders. Objecting to your equivalency between a child actions to an adult Romney is the result of an assault and male rape by someone towards me, really? Tell me is this your way to rationalize, justify and excuse rape and assaults? You must blame the smaller child for not defending himself against the larger kid(s). Now I understand your support and approval for Romney and his contempt of authority with his bullying, especially assaults.

One venerable English teacher, Carl G. Wonnberger, nicknamed “the Bat” for his diminished eyesight, was known to walk into the trophy case and apologize, step into wastepaper baskets and stare blindly as students slipped out the back of the room to smoke by the open windows. Once, several students remembered the time pranksters propped up the back axle of Wonnberger’s Volkswagen Beetle with two-by-fours and watched, laughing from the windows, as the unwitting teacher slammed the gas pedal with his wheels spinning in the air.

As an underclassman, Romney accompanied Wonnberger and Pierce Getsinger, another student, from the second floor of the main academic building to the library to retrieve a book the two boys needed. According to Getsinger, Romney opened a first set of doors for Wonnberger, but then at the next set, with other students around, he swept his hand forward, bidding the teacher into a closed door. Wonnberger walked right into it and Getsinger said Romney giggled hysterically as the teacher shrugged it off as another of life’s indignities.

sirhcyennek81
05-11-2012, 12:32 PM
willard is running for president, they didn't go through the trouble of investigating this story just to put it on the back page. being 17 yrs old makes it OK? I wonder how many 17 yr olds who are currently serving time in prison for cimes they commited are now thinking ,wow, had I just reminded the jury I was 17, I would be home free.


Well one of the guys the post story quotes was not present at the "attack". Article made it sound like he was. He learned about the story from the Washington Post.

...

:Broncos:

barryr
05-11-2012, 12:32 PM
The liberal media has done such a thorough job looking at Obama's past. They won't since are afraid what they will find, but instead worry what Romney did 30+ years ago. Great, unbiased reporting happening in our country. But I know, it's just Fox News that does such things.

sirhcyennek81
05-11-2012, 12:34 PM
Huh. A teenager was a dick. Who knew. That's never happened before.

:Broncos:

Rohirrim
05-11-2012, 12:36 PM
What should he do? Kiss a gay man and grow his hair long? He said he doesn't remember doing this but apologized if he did. It was 47 years ago.

Like they say in court to an objection, your honor, this leads to the character of the witness.

And the judge says, okay, I'll allow it.

Let's see... Obama was given some dog meat to eat when he was 7 years old. That seems perfectly acceptable to discuss, eh?

sirhcyennek81
05-11-2012, 12:40 PM
I'm curious to learn why Obama launched his state senate campaign from Bill Ayres(sp) house. Tons of people align with domestic terrorists to start their political careers, right?

:Broncos:

Rohirrim
05-11-2012, 12:43 PM
The liberal media has done such a thorough job looking at Obama's past. They won't since are afraid what they will find, but instead worry what Romney did 30+ years ago. Great, unbiased reporting happening in our country. But I know, it's just Fox News that does such things.

Ha! Are you really that far off into Right Wing fantasy land? Really? Let's see, the Right Wing press wasn't tearing Obama apart because he was in a "madrassa" in Indonesia when he was 7? Uh, birth certificate? How about the church he went to? The people he knew in high school? College? Here's you: :clown:

Rohirrim
05-11-2012, 12:45 PM
I'm curious to learn why Obama launched his state senate campaign from Bill Ayres(sp) house. Tons of people align with domestic terrorists to start their political careers, right?

:Broncos:

While you're at it, check out why Reagan launched his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi.

sirhcyennek81
05-11-2012, 12:46 PM
While you're at it, check out why Reagan launched his campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi.


Sure. But I bet I find out why Reagan did that. And there will be many sources on it.

I'm betting trying to find out why Obama launched from Ayres house will be harder to come by.

Wonder why that is.

:Broncos:

sirhcyennek81
05-11-2012, 12:48 PM
Ah, TGN. You silly, silly man.

:Broncos:

barryr
05-11-2012, 12:53 PM
Sure. But I bet I find out why Reagan did that. And there will be many sources on it.

I'm betting trying to find out why Obama launched from Ayres house will be harder to come by.

Wonder why that is.

:Broncos:

But Obama and Ayers said they barely knew each other and that was the end of the investigations since neither would ever lie of course.

alkemical
05-11-2012, 01:05 PM
the blaze = glenn beck

Rohirrim
05-11-2012, 01:05 PM
Sure. But I bet I find out why Reagan did that. And there will be many sources on it.

I'm betting trying to find out why Obama launched from Ayres house will be harder to come by.

Wonder why that is.

:Broncos:

I guess you need some help with how to operate the interwebz, eh?

Here ya go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers_presidential_election_controversy
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html
http://factcheck.org/2008/10/he-lied-about-bill-ayers/

Here, this will come in handy: http://www.internet101.org/

:welcome:

El Minion
05-11-2012, 01:10 PM
The liberal media has done such a thorough job looking at Obama's past. They won't since are afraid what they will find, but instead worry what Romney did 30+ years ago. Great, unbiased reporting happening in our country. But I know, it's just Fox News that does such things.

Let see, Obama wasn't born in Hawaii but in Kenya; is secretly a Muslim for being educated at a "madrassa"; palled around with terrorists, the Weather Underground, when Obama was ~10 years old; hates white people and America; Obama Wants "Re-Education" Camps For Young People; ordered the murder of Andrew Breitbart; plans to confiscate everyone's guns; authorizing death panels to kill your grandma; snorts cocaine; is a socialists; eats dogs and soon to eat Bo, the dog of the first family; faked Osama bin Laden death; and Obama is the Antichrist.

Did I get everything?

sirhcyennek81
05-11-2012, 01:17 PM
I guess you need some help with how to operate the interwebz, eh?

Here ya go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers_presidential_election_controversy
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html
http://factcheck.org/2008/10/he-lied-about-bill-ayers/

Here, this will come in handy: http://www.internet101.org/

:welcome:


Oh, the NYTimes and CNN investigated this? I feel so much better about it now.

:Broncos:

Rohirrim
05-11-2012, 01:21 PM
Oh, the NYTimes and CNN investigated this? I feel so much better about it now.

:Broncos:

When you ask for links and don't look at them, it means you're just playing the biatch.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 01:29 PM
I'm curious to learn why Obama launched his state senate campaign from Bill Ayres(sp) house. Tons of people align with domestic terrorists to start their political careers, right?

:Broncos:

LOL like that crap actually carried any weight in the last election.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 01:31 PM
Let see, Obama wasn't born in Hawaii but in Kenya; is secretly a Muslim for being educated at a "madrassa"; palled around with terrorists, the Weather Underground, when Obama was ~10 years old; hates white people and America; Obama Wants "Re-Education" Camps For Young People; ordered the murder of Andrew Breitbart; plans to confiscate everyone's guns; authorizing death panels to kill your grandma; snorts cocaine; is a socialists; eats dogs and soon to eat Bo, the dog of the first family; faked Osama bin Laden death; and Obama is the Antichrist.

Did I get everything?

I think so,but don't be surprised if they come out with more.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 01:38 PM
Well one of the guys the post story quotes was not present at the "attack". Article made it sound like he was. He learned about the story from the Washington Post.

...

:Broncos:

and that changes what? Willard isn't denying that it happened.

Rigs11
05-11-2012, 01:41 PM
Let see, Obama wasn't born in Hawaii but in Kenya; is secretly a Muslim for being educated at a "madrassa"; palled around with terrorists, the Weather Underground, when Obama was ~10 years old; hates white people and America; Obama Wants "Re-Education" Camps For Young People; ordered the murder of Andrew Breitbart; plans to confiscate everyone's guns; authorizing death panels to kill your grandma; snorts cocaine; is a socialists; eats dogs and soon to eat Bo, the dog of the first family; faked Osama bin Laden death; and Obama is the Antichrist.

Did I get everything?

Don't forget that he wants to outlaw bacon and wants $10 a gallon gas.

DomCasual
05-11-2012, 03:01 PM
Like they say in court to an objection, your honor, this leads to the character of the witness.

And the judge says, okay, I'll allow it.

Let's see... Obama was given some dog meat to eat when he was 7 years old. That seems perfectly acceptable to discuss, eh?

No, as I've said before, that was stupid, too.

At this point, it doesn't really matter who started this game of childish, petty mudslinging. The person or people who choose to stop the cycle will be heroes.

Bob
05-11-2012, 03:35 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/family-of-romneys-alleged-bully-victim-speaks-out-the-portrayal-of-john-is-factually-incorrect/


Isn't the timing of the release of this story convenient? Obama announces his change of heart on same sex marriage and Romney is a gay basher. And the alleged victim passed away in 2004 so he can't confirm or deny the claim. This story is a typical smear campaign. If you don't see that, your either blind or dumb.

The politics of distraction, while the Titanic sinks...

Bob
05-11-2012, 03:37 PM
Typical, defend the actions of the assailant and attack the innocent and their defenders. Objecting to your equivalency between a child actions to an adult Romney is the result of an assault and male rape by someone towards me, really? Tell me is this your way to rationalize, justify and excuse rape and assaults? You must blame the smaller child for not defending himself against the larger kid(s). Now I understand your support and approval for Romney and his contempt of authority with his bullying, especially assaults.

So in 1965 Romney teased a weird looking kid and he cried? While Obama launches his political career in a known terrorist's home, does drugs, drinks too much, and hangs out with a racist preacher for 20 years? This is going to be an interesting year. Liberals would turn Jesus into the embodiment of evil, if he ran for office.

Requiem
05-11-2012, 03:44 PM
So in 1965 Romney teased a weird looking kid and he cried? While Obama launches his political career in a known terrorist's home, does drugs, drinks too much, and hangs out with a racist preacher for 20 years? This is going to be an interesting year. Liberals would turn Jesus into the embodiment of evil, if he ran for office.

Jesus wasn't that great. Get over it.

peacepipe
05-11-2012, 03:47 PM
So in 1965 Romney teased a weird looking kid and he cried? While Obama launches his political career in a known terrorist's home, does drugs, drinks too much, and hangs out with a racist preacher for 20 years? This is going to be an interesting year. Liberals would turn Jesus into the embodiment of evil, if he ran for office.
Jesus christ would be a liberal had he been alive today. I have a hard imagining JC argueing for more tax cuts for the rich.

willard did more than just tease this kid.

you complain about distractions by bringing up distractions used against obama in '08.

Rohirrim
05-11-2012, 04:07 PM
No, as I've said before, that was stupid, too.

At this point, it doesn't really matter who started this game of childish, petty mudslinging. The person or people who choose to stop the cycle will be heroes.

Don't hold your breath...

1800 In the country's first contested presidential election, supporters of Thomas Jefferson claimed incumbent John Adams wanted to marry off his son to the daughter of King George III, creating an American dynasty under British rule. Jefferson haters called the challenger a fraud, a coward, a thief, and "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father." Jefferson won.
http://reason.com/archives/2006/10/13/the-10-dirtiest-political-race

Rohirrim
05-11-2012, 04:09 PM
So in 1965 Romney teased a weird looking kid and he cried? While Obama launches his political career in a known terrorist's home, does drugs, drinks too much, and hangs out with a racist preacher for 20 years? This is going to be an interesting year. Liberals would turn Jesus into the embodiment of evil, if he ran for office.

You don't know much about George Bush, do you?

ant1999e
05-11-2012, 05:12 PM
Jesus christ would be a liberal had he been alive today. I have a hard imagining JC argueing for more tax cuts for the rich.

willard did more than just tease this kid.

you complain about distractions by bringing up distractions used against obama in '08.

And Jesus never talked about taking from people. He taught giving of your own will.

sirhcyennek81
05-11-2012, 05:42 PM
and that changes what? Willard isn't denying that it happened.


To be accurate he doesnt remember it. Because it was 40 years ago.

You would think a man in politics most of his life would have this story come out alot sooner than a day after Obama comes out in support of gay marriage.

Funny timing. But heaven forbid I besmirch the professionalism of our intrepid press.

:Broncos:

El Minion
05-11-2012, 06:46 PM
Don't forget that he wants to outlaw bacon and wants $10 a gallon gas.

I think bacon is more American than apple pie!

http://airpigz.com/storage/2010-july/AirPigz-Bacon-Party.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1279762706769

Drek
05-11-2012, 07:02 PM
And Jesus never talked about taking from people. He taught giving of your own will.

He also didn't live in a society of 300 million people covering almost 3.8 million square miles.

I'd imagine he'd understand how people could fall through the cracks in such a massive nation if we just leave social assistance up to good will.

It seems very easy for professed Christians to forget the "wealth redistribution" aspect of the miracle of the feeding of the multitude. In every biblical telling Jesus demands the apostles property and then redistributes it to the masses. Seems rather socialist.

Jay3
05-11-2012, 07:22 PM
This haircut kid wasn't gay.

ant1999e
05-12-2012, 01:12 AM
This haircut kid wasn't gay.

Shhh. Don't ruin their dreams.

peacepipe
05-12-2012, 07:49 AM
This haircut kid wasn't gay.

what differance does him being gay make? willard & gang still did what they did.

Rohirrim
05-12-2012, 09:26 AM
This haircut kid wasn't gay.

Turns out, he was.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/democrats-pounce-story-vicious-young-romney-bullying-student/story?id=16320525#.T66OOBykG2k

ant1999e
05-12-2012, 09:28 AM
what differance does him being gay make? willard & gang still did what they did.

You're really pushing this "Willard" thing ain't you?

peacepipe
05-12-2012, 09:31 AM
You're really pushing this "Willard" thing ain't you?

;D willard is his name.

El Minion
05-12-2012, 10:51 AM
Turns out, he was.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/democrats-pounce-story-vicious-young-romney-bullying-student/story?id=16320525#.T66OOBykG2k

Don't ruin a good lie with the facts.

TonyR
05-12-2012, 01:57 PM
Romney's "empathy problem".

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshbarro/2012/05/11/bullying-and-mitt-romneys-empathy-problem/

TonyR
05-12-2012, 02:05 PM
I’m still waiting for the moment when Romney actually tells the truth about something difficult.

He could have said, “You know, I’ve been troubled by the Cranbrook episode for most of my life, and I feel relieved, in a way, that it’s come out now. I did a really stupid and terrible thing. Teenage boys sometimes do such things, and deserve to be punished for them. What I most regret is that I never apologized to John, and won’t be able to now that he’s gone, but let me apologize to his family and friends. Bullying is unacceptable under any circumstances. It is especially unacceptable when prejudice–against race, ethnicity or sexual orientation–is involved. If elected President, I will try to atone for my teenage behavior by campaigning against bullying all across this country. What I did back then should be an example of how not to behave. I hope we can all learn from this. I know that I have.”

Instead, Romney has a near-perfect record of cowardice, obfuscation and downright lies. It shows enormous disrespect for the intelligence of the public.

http://swampland.time.com/2012/05/11/bully-pulpit-second-thoughts/?iid=sl-category-arenapage#ixzz1uaNYoFKU%20

Rohirrim
05-12-2012, 02:43 PM
I’m still waiting for the moment when Romney actually tells the truth about something difficult.

He could have said, “You know, I’ve been troubled by the Cranbrook episode for most of my life, and I feel relieved, in a way, that it’s come out now. I did a really stupid and terrible thing. Teenage boys sometimes do such things, and deserve to be punished for them. What I most regret is that I never apologized to John, and won’t be able to now that he’s gone, but let me apologize to his family and friends. Bullying is unacceptable under any circumstances. It is especially unacceptable when prejudice–against race, ethnicity or sexual orientation–is involved. If elected President, I will try to atone for my teenage behavior by campaigning against bullying all across this country. What I did back then should be an example of how not to behave. I hope we can all learn from this. I know that I have.”

Instead, Romney has a near-perfect record of cowardice, obfuscation and downright lies. It shows enormous disrespect for the intelligence of the public.

http://swampland.time.com/2012/05/11/bully-pulpit-second-thoughts/?iid=sl-category-arenapage#ixzz1uaNYoFKU%20

Exactly! They don't even get that the issue isn't so much the original offense as his response to it. This writer is right. If Romney responds as in the example, this thing disappears. It's the same thing with the dog. He just tried to laugh it off, as if he didn't have enough empathy to even be capable of imagining why many people, particularly dog owners, would find that kind of behavior really questionable.

Many people have brought up the issue of him firing so many people at Bain Capital, and then he uses as an example in his choice in health care the argument that he is glad that he is "...able to fire people." The audience is all, "Huh?" He's like a robot trying to pretend he's human.

Rohirrim
05-12-2012, 02:50 PM
Here's another point the Dems are going to exploit: Romney hates to be confronted. He has a real "born to the royalty" attitude. He's kind of like Barbara Bush, in that respect. A couple of times it's popped up in the primary campaign, where Romney has gone off on reporters or citizens who have questioned him bluntly. The guy doesn't put up with people questioning him who he considers his underlings. This is also illustrated in this hair cutting episode. He was appalled that somebody could walk around with a hairdo that he found offensive. I'm sure the Dems will set him up for something in the debates on this score. All you've got to do is get him to release his inner snob. ;D

Requiem
05-12-2012, 04:58 PM
Stop the Romney talk. This dude is DOA. Obama got it in the bag like crack.

DBruleU
05-12-2012, 05:04 PM
He also didn't live in a society of 300 million people covering almost 3.8 million square miles.

I'd imagine he'd understand how people could fall through the cracks in such a massive nation if we just leave social assistance up to good will.

It seems very easy for professed Christians to forget the "wealth redistribution" aspect of the miracle of the feeding of the multitude. In every biblical telling Jesus demands the apostles property and then redistributes it to the masses. Seems rather socialist.

Uh, not even close. The feeding of the multitude is more about how Christ is sufficient. We go to Him for all we need and receive all we need. He is our resource. He used a young child (Who in those times really had no significance to people) to help feed the 5000.

How you get socialism and wealth redistribution from that is beyond me. Poor theology.

El Minion
05-12-2012, 05:05 PM
Here's another point the Dems are going to exploit: Romney hates to be confronted. He has a real "born to the royalty" attitude. He's kind of like Barbara Bush, in that respect. A couple of times it's popped up in the primary campaign, where Romney has gone off on reporters or citizens who have questioned him bluntly. The guy doesn't put up with people questioning him who he considers his underlings. This is also illustrated in this hair cutting episode. He was appalled that somebody could walk around with a hairdo that he found offensive. I'm sure the Dems will set him up for something in the debates on this score. All you've got to do is get him to release his inner snob. ;D

How very fascist of Romney, suppressing cultural/gender identity that doesn't conform to his idea/identity of masculinity; what a coward and bully. Dovetails nicely with his corporate elitism.

Requiem
05-12-2012, 06:05 PM
Uh, not even close. The feeding of the multitude is more about how Christ is sufficient. We go to Him for all we need and receive all we need. He is our resource. He used a young child (Who in those times really had no significance to people) to help feed the 5000.

How you get socialism and wealth redistribution from that is beyond me. Poor theology.

I go to the Easter Bunny.

DBruleU
05-12-2012, 06:24 PM
I go to the Easter Bunny.

I have an uncle that goes to Santa...so it's all good.

kappys
05-12-2012, 07:14 PM
Let see, Obama wasn't born in Hawaii but in Kenya; is secretly a Muslim for being educated at a "madrassa"; palled around with terrorists, the Weather Underground, when Obama was ~10 years old; hates white people and America; Obama Wants "Re-Education" Camps For Young People; ordered the murder of Andrew Breitbart; plans to confiscate everyone's guns; authorizing death panels to kill your grandma; snorts cocaine; is a socialists; eats dogs and soon to eat Bo, the dog of the first family; faked Osama bin Laden death; and Obama is the Antichrist.

Did I get everything?

You forgot his secret plan to take white people's money and redistribute it to blacks - although I suppose that is covered in the hates white people portion.

Also forgot that the hates the Jews for not supporting Isreal enough