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Bronco Rob
05-05-2012, 01:18 AM
Head coach power rankings


By Joe Fortenbaugh | National Football Post – 13 hours ago



Let me start by stressing the fact that these rankings are merely a jumping-off point for a regular feature that we’ll be running during the 2012 season.

Many of you will find arguments for why certain head coaches deserve to be ranked higher while others should be slotted lower. This is expected and, in fact, encouraged. I’ve taken various bits of criteria into account for what you’re about to read, but keep in mind that these are power rankings. Andy Reid has made five trips to the NFC Championship game during his 13-year tenure in Philadelphia, but does that mean he should be ranked higher than a coach like Marvin Lewis, who exceeded all expectations with a rookie quarterback last season and earned a trip to the playoffs?


8. John Fox, Denver Broncos: It’s a matter of perspective: Was Fox responsible for Tim Tebow’s success or was it the other way around? Either way you look at it, Fox was the engineer of a divisional upset that saw the Broncos not only capture the AFC West, but also shock the Pittsburgh Steelers in overtime during the first round of the playoffs. However, now that he’s got Peyton Manning running his offense, Fox will be expected to deliver lofty results in 2012.


21. Romeo Crennel, Kansas City Chiefs: There isn’t much to work with here, but Crennel went 2-1 as the interim head coach of the Chiefs last season, which was highlighted by a shocking upset victory over the then-undefeated Green Bay Packers. The return of running back Jamaal Charles should provide a big boost for the offense, but once again, the season rests of the shoulders of highly-paid quarterback Matt Cassel.


25. Norv Turner, San Diego Chargers: Loaded with talent and given the luxury of playing in one of the softest divisions in the NFL, Turner went just 17-15 over the last two seasons in Southern California, failing to miss the postseason both times. With the possible exception of Andy Reid, no coach is under more pressure to win in 2012 than Turner. And now that Peyton Manning has joined the AFC West, the task of getting back to the postseason just got a whole lot tougher.





http://sports.yahoo.com/news/head-coach-power-rankings-180016616--nfl.html

Bacchus
05-05-2012, 10:19 AM
Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions # 1, really?? Ok reality not in play here.

Hamrob
05-05-2012, 10:28 AM
Move Shwartz down to around #10....then, he's pretty much spot on.

When a team picks in the top 5 for an entire decade...it doesn't take a Rembrandt to create a masterpiece!

Bacchus
05-05-2012, 10:32 AM
Move Shwartz down to around #10....then, he's pretty much spot on.

When a team picks in the top 5 for an entire decade...it doesn't take a Rembrandt to create a masterpiece!

That is what I am thinking, really what has Scwartz done besides his best season go 10-6 and lose in the playoffs??

Elway 4 Life
05-05-2012, 10:37 AM
With all the talent he has he should be able to have been able to do alot more than he has. This Joe Fortenbaugh fella obviously is looking thru silver and gay blue glasses.

Bronco Rob
05-05-2012, 10:38 AM
Move Shwartz down to around #10....then, he's pretty much spot on.

When a team picks in the top 5 for an entire decade...it doesn't take a Rembrandt to create a masterpiece!

2002 First Round # 3 Overall
2003 First Round # 2 Overall
2004 First Round #7 Overall
2005 First Round # 10 Overall
2006 First Round # 9 Overall
2007 First Round # 2 Overall
2008 First Round # 17 Overall
2009 First Round # 1 Overall
2010 First Round # 1 Overall



I think the same can be said for Jim Harbaugh. The 49ers were loaded with talent prior to his arvial.

Elway 4 Life
05-05-2012, 10:41 AM
2002 First Round # 3 Overall
2003 First Round # 2 Overall
2004 First Round #7 Overall
2005 First Round # 10 Overall
2006 First Round # 9 Overall
2007 First Round # 2 Overall
2008 First Round # 17 Overall
2009 First Round # 1 Overall
2010 First Round # 1 Overall



I think the same can be said for Jim Harbaugh. The 49ers were loaded with talent prior to his arvial.

Difference is that Harbaugh was 1 play away from the Super Bowl.

gunns
05-05-2012, 10:48 AM
I think it's great Schwartz is #1. Maybe he should be 2nd but the transformation of that pathetic team is truly remarkable. He did what you should do, built up a dynamite defense and gave the O some weapons. Took an 0-16 team, that hadn't been in the playoffs in 12 years, that needed total rebuilding, to the playoffs in two years. I think he's done a great job.

Heyneck
05-05-2012, 10:49 AM
2002 First Round # 3 Overall
2003 First Round # 2 Overall
2004 First Round #7 Overall
2005 First Round # 10 Overall
2006 First Round # 9 Overall
2007 First Round # 2 Overall
2008 First Round # 17 Overall
2009 First Round # 1 Overall
2010 First Round # 1 Overall



I think the same can be said for Jim Harbaugh. The 49ers were loaded with talent prior to his arvial.

How many of those are still with the team?

Bronco Rob
05-05-2012, 11:03 AM
How many of those are still with the team?



Only four.

gunns
05-05-2012, 11:04 AM
How many of those are still with the team?

Only Calvin Johnson (2007) is still on the team from before Schwartz took over.

gunns
05-05-2012, 11:05 AM
Only four.

Really? I only see Johnson

Edit: You are counting Schwartz's picks also. I think that only goes to promote what he's done.

Pendejo
05-05-2012, 11:17 AM
Difference is that Harbaugh was 1 play away from the Super Bowl.

And he won the shoving match.

Heyneck
05-05-2012, 11:19 AM
Only four.

Thanks... not sure how many had been able to stick.

Bronco Rob
05-05-2012, 11:21 AM
Only Calvin Johnson (2007) is still on the team from before Schwartz took over.


Suh, Stafford, Gosder, and Backus.

Elway 4 Life
05-05-2012, 11:22 AM
And he won the shoving match.
:giggle:

Hercules Rockefeller
05-05-2012, 12:31 PM
Suh, Stafford, Gosder, and Backus.

Pettigrew

You left out that they had a couple years with multiple 1sts too

ClamChowdah
05-05-2012, 12:59 PM
Jim Schwartz at the Lions 18-30 and 0-1 in playoffs.

Bill Belichick at the Patriots 139-53 and 16-6 playoffs 5 superbowl appearances, 3 superbowl wins.

That is some serious BB haterade that guy is drinking, not one even the Lions fans would rather have him over BB, every year there is a bad team who has a good season and then goes back to being mediocre.

I wouldn't even have Schwartz in my top 20, you pick in the top 5 picks for enough years you're eventually going to get good.

Anikai
05-05-2012, 01:08 PM
Jim Schwartz at the Lions 18-30 and 0-1 in playoffs.

Bill Belichick at the Patriots 139-53 and 16-6 playoffs 5 superbowl appearances, 3 superbowl wins.

That is some serious BB haterade that guy is drinking, not one even the Lions fans would rather have him over BB, every year there is a bad team who has a good season and then goes back to being mediocre.

I wouldn't even have Schwartz in my top 20, you pick in the top 5 picks for enough years you're eventually going to get good.

The last time BB won a Superbowl gas was around $2 a gallon

DarkHorse30
05-05-2012, 01:29 PM
Belicheater no SB wins since cheating "discovered"

the laughable part - Mangina was a Belicheater before he was a Jet....and therefore sunk the legacy by accident. He never thought it was going to be an asterisk issue

Shananahan
05-05-2012, 02:15 PM
I don't care who you root for or what you think, Belichick is a better coach than Jim Schwartz. So are at least half of the other guys in the top ten.

KipCorrington25
05-05-2012, 03:08 PM
Anyone named Romeo has to be top ten.

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQM-YuaqQi_VNIWq2yLtKYj9y3k2gPqG7PdaDV6LGThs3lKVbYf

Bronco Rob
05-05-2012, 03:15 PM
Jim Schwartz at the Lions 18-30 and 0-1 in playoffs.

Bill Belichick at the Patriots 139-53 and 16-6 playoffs 5 superbowl appearances, 3 superbowl wins.

That is some serious BB haterade that guy is drinking, not one even the Lions fans would rather have him over BB, every year there is a bad team who has a good season and then goes back to being mediocre.

I wouldn't even have Schwartz in my top 20, you pick in the top 5 picks for enough years you're eventually going to get good.


Bob. I thought you were a chefs fan?

http://i49.tinypic.com/2eg5euq.jpg




Report: Source claims Patriots taped Rams before Super Bowl


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3227245



spygate: the pats' videotaping scandal

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extras/spygate/




LOL

El Jué
05-05-2012, 04:00 PM
25. Norv Turner, San Diego Chargers: Loaded with talent and given the luxury of playing in one of the softest divisions in the NFL, Turner went just 17-15 over the last two seasons in Southern California, failing to miss the postseason both times...

And this is why God makes editors.

gunns
05-05-2012, 04:15 PM
Suh, Stafford, Gosder, and Backus.

Backus was 2001, pick 18, and the list started at 2002. I did miss Gosder.

Bronco Rob
05-05-2012, 07:08 PM
Only Calvin Johnson (2007) is still on the team from before Schwartz took over.

http://www.detroitlions.com/team/history/draft-history/draft-history-2000-2009.html

1) Johnson, Calvin - 2007
2) Cherilus, Gosder - 2008
3) Stafford, Matthew - 2009
4.) Pettigrew, Brandon - 2009


http://www.detroitlions.com/team/history/draft-history/draft-history-2010-2019.html

5.) Suh, Ndamukong - 2010
6.) Best, Jahvid - 2010




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Bronco Rob
05-07-2012, 08:28 AM
Backus was 2001, pick 18, and the list started at 2002. I did miss Gosder.



I thought you meant since 2000?

BroncoBen
05-07-2012, 08:34 AM
Move Shwartz down to around #10....then, he's pretty much spot on.

When a team picks in the top 5 for an entire decade...it doesn't take a Rembrandt to create a masterpiece!

Very well said... its about time the Lions are making some noise in the NFL.