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OBF1
05-04-2012, 01:34 PM
Went to the midnight show last night... EXCELLENT all around movie. Personally I think it is the best of the Mavrel/super hero mpvies yet. Those new 3D glasses are killer.

So who else is going to see the movie?

JLesSPE
05-04-2012, 01:36 PM
This weekend hopefully. I've enjoyed them all so far, I hope this one is all its hyped up to be.

Garcia Bronco
05-04-2012, 01:46 PM
I just saw Thor and Cap A. I'll see this....one day...on TNT or something. :P

Miss I.
05-04-2012, 01:50 PM
Going to see this tonight at 1015 pm with a group of friends at a Theater with a bar. Too things I love drinking and movies...excellent. ;D

BroncoBeavis
05-04-2012, 02:01 PM
Not usually a big comic movie fan. Loved Iron Man though so I think I'm going to see this tonight.

Is the 3d worth a trip out of my way?

OBF1
05-04-2012, 02:05 PM
I saw it in IMAX 3D, I think it was worth it. Real good effects I kept finding myself reaching out to touch things from the screen.

Ray Finkle
05-04-2012, 02:38 PM
Very good...

Lestat
05-04-2012, 02:40 PM
i'm going to see it this weekend. i've been dying to see this movie but don't want to go during the main initial rush.

broncosteven
05-04-2012, 03:50 PM
I am still waiting for a superhero who wears pocket protectors and white short sleeve dress shirts and saves men 250,000 miles from the Earth.

I guess they kinda did with Apollo 13 but there was too much about the spam in a can and less about the hero that saved them.

SonOfLe-loLang
05-04-2012, 03:56 PM
i saw it yesterday and, while I normally am allergic to these movies, i found this one fun. So I should assume comic book fanboys will adore it?

SonOfLe-loLang
05-04-2012, 03:57 PM
I am still waiting for a superhero who wears pocket protectors and white short sleeve dress shirts and saves men 250,000 miles from the Earth.

I guess they kinda did with Apollo 13 but there was too much about the spam in a can and less about the hero that saved them.

Your allusions to Gene Kranz never get old haha. No sarcasm there, they actually make me laugh everytime.

broncoblue
05-04-2012, 04:01 PM
its very good

Archer81
05-04-2012, 04:06 PM
Gonna wait til next weekend. Theater today was packed. Cars had to park in the mall parking lot across the street.

:Broncos:

rideco
05-04-2012, 04:26 PM
I am for sure going to go see it but not this weekend. I will wait until the crowds calm down some.

CHANGSTER
05-04-2012, 04:27 PM
It was awesome. Not a fan of the 3D though. Hard to focus, especially in darker scenes. I want to watch it again regular.

Nemesis
05-04-2012, 06:45 PM
It was the best super hero movie by far.

Jay3
05-04-2012, 09:04 PM
Just got back. It rocked.

jutang
05-04-2012, 09:27 PM
Huge fan of Josh Wheadon since the Firefly series and the Serenity movie wasn't half bad. I've been cautiously optimistic about this movie but still have worries when you have too many comic book characters in one movie that it dumbs down the plot and character development.

Gcver2ver3
05-04-2012, 09:37 PM
Just watched it...

Wow it was amazing... best action flick and funniest movie of the year all in one...

And an awesome tease at the end of the credits for us hardcore marvel fans...

ShutDownPoster
05-04-2012, 09:55 PM
Saw midnight show IMAX 3D, and was literally blown away. Definitely a collective fanboy wad was blown around the world. When we saw the first Iron Man movie I kept telling my wife about the Avengers, and she never seemed to get it. But after last night, looked like she enjoyed it even more than me - so it's not just a fanboys paradise. Hulk stole the show!

CHANGSTER
05-04-2012, 10:57 PM
Fyi there's 2 end credit scenes. I missed the second one.

Tombstone RJ
05-04-2012, 11:20 PM
I just got back too. I was pleasantly suprised, it was good fun.

OBF1
05-04-2012, 11:26 PM
Thanos.... can not wait

DarkHorse
05-04-2012, 11:31 PM
Just got back from seeing it - best one by far cannot wait for the next!

SonOfLe-loLang
05-05-2012, 12:04 AM
I just saw Thor and Cap A. I'll see this....one day...on TNT or something. :P

FX:). We have a deal with marvel

Agamemnon
05-05-2012, 01:03 AM
Saw it tonight and all I can say is it's pretty much pure awesome. Best comic book movie I've ever seen, especially in terms of actually capturing the wonder and scale of the comics.

Jay3
05-05-2012, 04:50 AM
Who's up for schawarma?

v2micca
05-05-2012, 07:57 AM
Just saw it last night. Thought it was a pretty solid piece of popcorn fare. Lots of fun. Pretty simple plot. Hulk is funner here than he has been in any other live interpretation of the character ever. Lots of Whedon sounding dialouge, which works better with some characters than it does with others.

andre
05-05-2012, 08:05 AM
Went to the midnight show last night... EXCELLENT all around movie. Personally I think it is the best of the Mavrel/super hero mpvies yet. Those new 3D glasses are killer.

So who else is going to see the movie?

really? that's cool . consider going to see it .

Punisher
05-05-2012, 08:35 AM
Funny read how all the nerds lash out of a spot on review

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/marvels_the_avengers/comments/?reviewid=2081866

myMind
05-05-2012, 11:49 AM
Who's up for schawarma?

Funny little story.

I had schawarma 2 hours before going to see this movie, when he said that I was laughing pretty damn hard.

55CrushEm
05-05-2012, 04:22 PM
Just saw it....yeah pretty awesome and fun.

I liked how in one scene, they depicted the "accuracy" of Thor's hammer in that even Hulk couldn't budge it.

Cool.

HooptyHoops
05-05-2012, 07:48 PM
I just saw Thor and Cap A. I'll see this....one day...on TNT or something. :P

Yep, a buddy talked me into going to Avengers, as he also talked me into going to Thor and Cap A last year(and he knew I didn't really like either movie)....that said, Avengers was an awesome movie and worth seeing!!

McDman
05-05-2012, 08:25 PM
I'm not a big super hero movie fan. They all follow the same plot line. The one exception was X2. I thought that was excellent.

Can't decide if I'll see this or not.

Lestat
05-05-2012, 08:39 PM
i wouldn't say they all follow the same plot line. more along the lines of most heroes were created so long ago that what's become accepted into hero lore is so old fashioned that you can only choose a certain number avenues to explore it and still appease the comic book fans who will be your main audience.

that's why movies like X2,Batman Begins,The Dark Knight,Iron Man are so important as they tough on scenarios that make the characters more relate-able to the current structure of life. most of your comic book characters were crafted in the 1930's-1960's where time was different, ideals were different and it's been so long that the mythos has become so ingrained in the culture that change is not accepted readily.

people rejected the notion of Batman Begins because Bale wasn't American. they were irate when they took out Superman standing for Truth,Justice the the American way.
you have fans ready to riot over Henry Cavill being the new film Superman and because they completely revamped the costume.

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/superman-man-of-steel-set-photo-costume-henry-cavill-01.jpg

Miss I.
05-05-2012, 09:30 PM
i wouldn't say they all follow the same plot line. more along the lines of most heroes were created so long ago that what's become accepted into hero lore is so old fashioned that you can only choose a certain number avenues to explore it and still appease the comic book fans who will be your main audience.

that's why movies like X2,Batman Begins,The Dark Knight,Iron Man are so important as they tough on scenarios that make the characters more relate-able to the current structure of life. most of your comic book characters were crafted in the 1930's-1960's where time was different, ideals were different and it's been so long that the mythos has become so ingrained in the culture that change is not accepted readily.

people rejected the notion of Batman Begins because Bale wasn't American. they were irate when they took out Superman standing for Truth,Justice the the American way.
you have fans ready to riot over Henry Cavill being the new film Superman and because they completely revamped the costume.

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/superman-man-of-steel-set-photo-costume-henry-cavill-01.jpg

ummm, hum..uh, drool..uh...Henry pretty. me like suit. Ahhh Henry...I will kick the asses of silly people who object to Henry and his form fittin costume. ;D

Agamemnon
05-05-2012, 09:55 PM
I'm not a big super hero movie fan. They all follow the same plot line. The one exception was X2. I thought that was excellent.

Can't decide if I'll see this or not.

The Avengers is infinitely better than X2.

Agamemnon
05-05-2012, 09:58 PM
ummm, hum..uh, drool..uh...Henry pretty. me like suit. Ahhh Henry...I will kick the asses of silly people who object to Henry and his form fittin costume. ;D

Looks like a CGI overlay to me like the Green Lantern.

Rolandftw
05-05-2012, 10:19 PM
I'd have enjoyed it more if a couple ***holes didn't get into a near fist fight near the end credits, leading the theatre to turn the lights on and me missing the "bonus scene."

bronco militia
05-05-2012, 11:34 PM
this one was good...too long, but good

hambone13
05-06-2012, 12:16 AM
Fyi there's 2 end credit scenes. I missed the second one.

Can anyone fill us in on the second bonus scene? I missed it damn it!

J

Jay3
05-06-2012, 05:12 AM
Can anyone fill us in on the second bonus scene? I missed it damn it!

J

It cuts immediately to a shot of all of the Avengers calmly sitting in that shawarma shop, eating shawarma. Nobody says a word, they're just chewing. They each have different looks on their faces, very casual. Doesn't look like they like it that much. But they don't hate it either.

BroncoBeavis
05-06-2012, 06:11 AM
I didn't know Henry was the new SM. I'm not sure about the Spiderman reboot either. How many times can we start over on this ****?

chickennob2
05-06-2012, 08:25 AM
I am still waiting for a superhero who wears pocket protectors and white short sleeve dress shirts and saves men 250,000 miles from the Earth.

I guess they kinda did with Apollo 13 but there was too much about the spam in a can and less about the hero that saved them.

Man, just wait for the "dark and gritty" remake of Apollo 13. I'm sure it's coming soon.

theAPAOps5
05-06-2012, 10:11 AM
Can anyone fill us in on the second bonus scene? I missed it damn it!

J

You should know by now not to leave early....

:)

hambone13
05-06-2012, 01:18 PM
You should know by now not to leave early....

:)

lol, I stayed for the first one, I just didn't expect there to be two! What was in the scene?

SonOfLe-loLang
05-06-2012, 03:30 PM
200 Milliion dollar weekend. my lord

hambone13
05-06-2012, 03:41 PM
200 Milliion dollar weekend. my lord

yeah, brilliant timing just before the summer movies begin. That's pretty amazing though and The Hulk did steal the show. Hilarious!

That One Guy
05-06-2012, 04:00 PM
Huge fan of Josh Wheadon since the Firefly series and the Serenity movie wasn't half bad. I've been cautiously optimistic about this movie but still have worries when you have too many comic book characters in one movie that it dumbs down the plot and character development.

I swear there's only a half-dozen Maners and Sheldon Cooper that tuned into this Firefly show. I've never heard of it and thought it was made up. This week I've seen multiple references to it here on the Mane.

canadianbroncosfan
05-06-2012, 05:30 PM
Saw it last night. Well worth the extra few bucks to see it in 3D

hambone13
05-06-2012, 05:39 PM
lol, I stayed for the first one, I just didn't expect there to be two! What was in the scene?

So I guess no one is going to divulge the last scene. One should not be reading this thread unless they expect discussion about the details. I'm jonz'n

Drek
05-06-2012, 05:42 PM
I swear there's only a half-dozen Maners and Sheldon Cooper that tuned into this Firefly show. I've never heard of it and thought it was made up. This week I've seen multiple references to it here on the Mane.

Its pretty popular among the sci-fi crowd.

Its actually pretty fantastic. Whedon basically put together a sci-fi/western mash-up that was inspired by Cowboy Bebop (classic anime series). Great ensemble cast with excellent chemistry. I believe its on Netflix and Hulu.

myMind
05-06-2012, 06:29 PM
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broncolife
05-06-2012, 10:36 PM
Its pretty popular among the sci-fi crowd.

Its actually pretty fantastic. Whedon basically put together a sci-fi/western mash-up that was inspired by Cowboy Bebop (classic anime series). Great ensemble cast with excellent chemistry. I believe its on Netflix and Hulu.

It reminded me more of Outlaw star.

Dutch
05-06-2012, 11:03 PM
Its pretty popular among the sci-fi crowd.

Its actually pretty fantastic. Whedon basically put together a sci-fi/western mash-up that was inspired by Cowboy Bebop (classic anime series). Great ensemble cast with excellent chemistry. I believe its on Netflix and Hulu.

Actually, he was inspired by the Civil War book "The Killer Angels" and what becomes of the men from the side that loses in such an epic battle (the battle of Serenity Valley in the show, the battle of Gettysburg in "Angels"). The western "flavor" is taken directly from the historical fact that so many of the men who fought for the South ended up migrating West. There was nothing left for many of them to go home to, and they refused to live under the close governance of the "Goddamnedyankees".

ChampJesusBailey
05-06-2012, 11:54 PM
I saw it today. Enjoyed it, they did a good job of meshing together so many characters but giving each of them their due. Some of the dialogue sucked imho but overall, very good.

Thanos after the credits, hellz yeah.

ChampJesusBailey
05-06-2012, 11:59 PM
So I guess no one is going to divulge the last scene. One should not be reading this thread unless they expect discussion about the details. I'm jonz'n

The team sits around a table eating schwarma or whatever it is called. I don't remember any dialogue.

theAPAOps5
05-07-2012, 12:17 AM
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http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5499/hulksmash2.gif
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2940/hulksmash3.gif
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By far one of the funniest moments in the movie. His tone accentuates the arrogance but hulk rag dolling him is freaking funny.

Did anyone else catch the reference to the American Classic Point Break (starring Keanu and Swayze).

theAPAOps5
05-07-2012, 12:26 AM
So I guess no one is going to divulge the last scene. One should not be reading this thread unless they expect discussion about the details. I'm jonz'n

Stark talks about a food joint that serves schwarma and how they should all go. The last bonus theme is the avengers team sitting and eating schwarm with no dialogue and kind of confused looks.

v2micca
05-07-2012, 06:40 AM
Stark talks about a food joint that serves schwarma and how they should all go. The last bonus theme is the avengers team sitting and eating schwarm with no dialogue and kind of confused looks.

I wouldn't say confused looks. More like completely-burnt-out-from-a-hellish-day-at-work looks.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-07-2012, 06:46 AM
I am still waiting for a superhero who wears pocket protectors and white short sleeve dress shirts and saves men 250,000 miles from the Earth.

I guess they kinda did with Apollo 13 but there was too much about the spam in a can and less about the hero that saved them.

I agree. They totally should have focused their attention on Ken Mattingly.

JLesSPE
05-07-2012, 06:51 AM
I swear there's only a half-dozen Maners and Sheldon Cooper that tuned into this Firefly show. I've never heard of it and thought it was made up. This week I've seen multiple references to it here on the Mane.

I didn't watch it while it was running, but one of my roommates had me watch it while I was in school and it was actually pretty good. Almost everyone I know has watched it...then again most of my friends are pretty nerdy.

TheReverend
05-07-2012, 07:09 AM
Best movie I've ever seen / 10

Ray Finkle
05-07-2012, 07:16 AM
Best movie I've ever seen / 10

Didn't you say the same thing about Speed 2??? :D

TheReverend
05-07-2012, 07:32 AM
Didn't you say the same thing about Speed 2??? :D

No Keanu, no likey


(not srs)

Ray Finkle
05-07-2012, 07:36 AM
No Keanu, no likey


(not srs)

we all know the first movie was "One Crazy Summer" until the lobster scene....

JLesSPE
05-07-2012, 07:38 AM
Best movie I've ever seen / 10

I really enjoyed it. I saw it in 2D though. I'll probably go see the 3D version of it soon.

55CrushEm
05-07-2012, 07:42 AM
By far one of the funniest moments in the movie. His tone accentuates the arrogance but hulk rag dolling him is freaking funny.

Did anyone else catch the reference to the American Classic Point Break (starring Keanu and Swayze).

Yes. Some funny one-liners throughout the movie.....mostly by Stark, of course.

TheReverend
05-07-2012, 07:47 AM
I really enjoyed it. I saw it in 2D though. I'll probably go see the 3D version of it soon.

The 3D was really solid without trying too hard and being "too in your face".

...If that makes any sense at least

Wes Mantooth
05-07-2012, 08:54 AM
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http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/5499/hulksmash2.gif
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2940/hulksmash3.gif
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7886/hulksmash4.gif

I found this scene quite funny.

Boobs McGee
05-07-2012, 09:17 AM
WOW that was an awesome flick. The last fight scene was incredibly well done...really made it feel comicbook esque with the way they worked together as a team. Big props, the scale was perfectly captured imo.

Also, did anyone catch the reference to LOTR when Iron Man picked up hawkeye?

bronco militia
05-07-2012, 09:57 AM
The 3D was really solid without trying too hard and being "too in your face".

...If that makes any sense at least

the movie was not shot in 3d...don't waste your money.

signed,

a cheap bastard

;D

lolcopter
05-07-2012, 10:03 AM
Gonna catch a 2d showing this week sometime

I hate 3d

v2micca
05-07-2012, 10:26 AM
Gonna catch a 2d showing this week sometime

I hate 3d

I'm really hoping that 3d as a gimic will begin to fade out in a couple of years. I've noticed that they don't seem to be pushing it as much anymore in Flat screen TV ads.

Gcver2ver3
05-07-2012, 10:41 AM
the movie was not shot in 3d...don't waste your money.

signed,


It wasnt?... i didnt know that... i was thinking about catching it again but in 3d...

If it want shot in 3d then forget it...

bronco militia
05-07-2012, 10:49 AM
It wasnt?... i didnt know that... i was thinking about catching it again but in 3d...

If it want shot in 3d then forget it...

http://screenrant.com/the-avengers-3d-kofi-144862/

lolcopter
05-07-2012, 10:51 AM
I'm really hoping that 3d as a gimic will begin to fade out in a couple of years. I've noticed that they don't seem to be pushing it as much anymore in Flat screen TV ads.

Same here. I think I'm just one of those people who can't hang with the 3d movies. It's just too much information to process... I feel like I'm reading a book while watching a movie lol

bronco militia
05-07-2012, 10:57 AM
Same here. I think I'm just one of those people who can't hang with the 3d movies. It's just too much information to process... I feel like I'm reading a book while watching a movie lol


if they could make 3d movies brighter I'd spend the extra cash.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/26/scorsese-film-3d-dark-screens

That One Guy
05-07-2012, 11:43 AM
I'm really hoping that 3d as a gimic will begin to fade out in a couple of years. I've noticed that they don't seem to be pushing it as much anymore in Flat screen TV ads.

I love the advancements made in the 3d stuff. If nothing else, it helps separate the experience from a mere viewing from your couch.

That One Guy
05-07-2012, 11:44 AM
if they could make 3d movies brighter I'd spend the extra cash.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/26/scorsese-film-3d-dark-screens

My showing specifically mentioned brighter screens for 3d movies. I've never noticed anything, I guess.

That One Guy
05-07-2012, 11:46 AM
http://screenrant.com/the-avengers-3d-kofi-144862/

I didn't know there was a difference in the 3d models. This makes me sad that I was never able to catch Avatar in 3d to see how good it was.

Archer81
05-07-2012, 11:52 AM
Avatar...Dances with Blue People...


:Broncos:

That One Guy
05-07-2012, 12:07 PM
Avatar...Dances with Blue People...


:Broncos:

BUT IN 3D! Sheesh...

DarkHorse
05-07-2012, 08:16 PM
WOW that was an awesome flick. The last fight scene was incredibly well done...really made it feel comicbook esque with the way they worked together as a team. Big props, the scale was perfectly captured imo.

Also, did anyone catch the reference to LOTR when Iron Man picked up hawkeye?

Clench up legolas

houghtam
05-07-2012, 09:30 PM
Just saw it. Suffice it to say it makes every other comic book movie made to this point obsolete. As far as scale and fantasy go, they pulled out all the stops, and the result was a 2.5 ****storm of awesome.

Infinity Gauntlet next time?

chanesaw
05-08-2012, 05:18 AM
I saw it over the weekend and really enjoyed it. The wife hates comic book movies, and she even liked it. I still prefer the Nolan Batman movies, but it was head and shoulders above any other comic book movie.

Can somebody explain why the Hulk was suddenly able to pick a side to fight on and take orders?

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 06:11 AM
Infinity Gauntlet next time?

Seeing as it can be briefly seen in Thor, I would say that's the most likely route they go.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 06:19 AM
I saw it over the weekend and really enjoyed it. The wife hates comic book movies, and she even liked it. I still prefer the Nolan Batman movies, but it was head and shoulders above any other comic book movie.

Can somebody explain why the Hulk was suddenly able to pick a side to fight on and take orders?

Because the Hulk isn't mindless. He's just constantly pissed off. Banner's control issues are traditionally represented in the comics as being more about his rejection of that side of himself than an actual loss of control, so when he stops rejecting it he begins to gain some control over it (emphasis on some).

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-08-2012, 06:40 AM
Saw it last night. IMAX, 3D.

I thought it was ****ing brilliant film making, really well-written, and an absolute feast for the senses. And I think Joss Whedon should direct every superhero movie from here on out.

chawknz
05-08-2012, 07:46 AM
Loki will NOT be bullied! :strong:

lolcopter
05-08-2012, 07:50 AM
Saw it last night and it was awesome

Might have to watch it again

Ray Finkle
05-08-2012, 08:21 AM
I saw it over the weekend and really enjoyed it. The wife hates comic book movies, and she even liked it. I still prefer the Nolan Batman movies, but it was head and shoulders above any other comic book movie.

Can somebody explain why the Hulk was suddenly able to pick a side to fight on and take orders?

draws back to the conversation Starks and He had earlier in the film. It was reinforced when he was falling and aimed for the abandoned building in Hulk form.

Fedaykin
05-08-2012, 09:45 AM
Saw this: Whedon did a great job with the right tone and scale for The Avengers. Loved his attention to detail (e.g. Hulk not being able to lift Thor's hammer).

Also, was really glad it didn't turn into Iron Man 3 like it could have easily done with Downy involved (who was reportedly pitching it to focus on him). It felt like a true ensemble cast. Only real gripe was the new actor for Banner/Hulk wasn't particuarly good (or bad).

Other than that, it was a bit disappointing to have Loki the main villain again after just last year being in Thor. Glad they set up a more suitable villain for any potential sequels.

Still doesn't stand up to Nolan's Batman though.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 10:00 AM
Still doesn't stand up to Nolan's Batman though.

In terms of pure filmmaking you might have a point, but in terms of being a comic book movie rather than a movie that almost seems ashamed of its comic book roots, it blows it away my a mile. Really they are two very different kinds of movies and don't really compare at all.

houghtam
05-08-2012, 10:07 AM
In terms of pure filmmaking you might have a point, but in terms of being a comic book movie rather than a movie that almost seems ashamed of its comic book roots, it blows it away my a mile. Really they are two very different kinds of movies and don't really compare at all.

You're right, they are two completely different kinds of movies, but they were also two different types of comic books. The only thing Nolan's Batman seems ashamed of is the campiness of some of the awful Batman stories that came before it. Batman is the world's greatest detective, the Avengers are Earth's Mightiest Heroes...huge difference right there. Both films are great in their own right.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 10:15 AM
You're right, they are two completely different kinds of movies, but they were also two different types of comic books. The only thing Nolan's Batman seems ashamed of is the campiness of some of the awful Batman stories that came before it. Batman is the world's greatest detective, the Avengers are Earth's Mightiest Heroes...huge difference right there. Both films are great in their own right.

Nolan's Batman has jettisoned almost all the supernatural and fantasy elements from the franchise (which probably comprises half of the Batman mythos), so I would definitely say it is kind of ashamed of its comic book background, or at the very least that it wants to be something very different. The Avengers on the other hand, actually felt like the comics, and clearly was aiming to capture that feeling. That was my point.

mwill07
05-08-2012, 10:17 AM
I think Avengers is probably the greatest action movie of all time. There are very few movies that I would say are clearly better.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a movie in the theater and thought I got my money's worth. IMO it's impossible to oversell this flick, no praise is too high.

houghtam
05-08-2012, 10:23 AM
Nolan's Batman has jettisoned almost all the supernatural and fantasy elements from the franchise (which probably comprises half of the Batman mythos), so I would definitely say it is kind of ashamed of its comic book background, or at the very least that it wants to be something very different. The Avengers on the other hand, actually felt like the comics, and clearly was aiming to capture that feeling. That was my point.

The story is based off a very narrow portion of the Batman mythos; none of the crazy stuff is involved. That doesn't make Nolan's Batman any more ashamed of its comic book background than not including the Canadian portion of the invasion of Normandy makes Saving Private Ryan ashamed of its military background.

lolcopter
05-08-2012, 10:24 AM
I caught a 5:50 showing right after work yesterday and although the theatre wasn't packed, the movie received a round of applause after credits rolled

People love this movie, no doubt about it

Gcver2ver3
05-08-2012, 10:29 AM
I think Avengers is probably the greatest action movie of all time. There are very few movies that I would say are clearly better.

I can't even remember the last time I saw a movie in the theater and thought I got my money's worth. IMO it's impossible to oversell this flick, no praise is too high.

What he said...

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-08-2012, 10:33 AM
Saw this: Whedon did a great job with the right tone and scale for The Avengers. Loved his attention to detail (e.g. Hulk not being able to lift Thor's hammer).

Also, was really glad it didn't turn into Iron Man 3 like it could have easily done with Downy involved (who was reportedly pitching it to focus on him). It felt like a true ensemble cast. Only real gripe was the new actor for Banner/Hulk wasn't particuarly good (or bad).

Other than that, it was a bit disappointing to have Loki the main villain again after just last year being in Thor. Glad they set up a more suitable villain for any potential sequels.

Still doesn't stand up to Nolan's Batman though.

I actually thought the Banner/Hulk character was great. Certainly better than he's ever been portrayed in live-action before.

That said, I thought Downey Jr. stole the show. He has a tendency to do that, and I found myself anticipating when he'd be back on screen. He's done a truly marvelous job with Stark.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 10:34 AM
The story is based off a very narrow portion of the Batman mythos; none of the crazy stuff is involved. That doesn't make Nolan's Batman any more ashamed of its comic book background than not including the Canadian portion of the invasion of Normandy makes Saving Private Ryan ashamed of its military background.

That analogy is ridiculous.

houghtam
05-08-2012, 10:38 AM
That analogy is ridiculous.

So is your statement that Nolan's Batman is ashamed of its comic book roots. I think you need to read more Batman.

lolcopter
05-08-2012, 10:43 AM
Yeah batman was never that comic-y

The comic books were actually really dark in nature

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-08-2012, 10:44 AM
The story is based off a very narrow portion of the Batman mythos; none of the crazy stuff is involved. That doesn't make Nolan's Batman any more ashamed of its comic book background than not including the Canadian portion of the invasion of Normandy makes Saving Private Ryan ashamed of its military background.

How awful that Nolan have the audacity to try and create something new, different and interesting for public consumption.

I'll have another Three Stooges movie please, and I'll wash that down with one of the thousand or so other "reboot" movies they've made with the same characters, the same storylines, in perpetuity.

Can't wait for the next "New" Spiderman movie. They got a new Uncle Ben! IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MOVIE!!11!!one!

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 10:47 AM
So is your statement that Nolan's Batman is ashamed of its comic book roots. I think you need to read more Batman.

"Ashamed" may or may not be the proper term, but you really can't argue that Nolan's Batman embraces its source material or its comic book origins in the same way The Avengers did. Come on now.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 10:50 AM
How awful that Nolan have the audacity to try and create something new, different and interesting for public consumption.

I'll have another Three Stooges movie please, and I'll wash that down with one of the thousand or so other "reboot" movies they've made with the same characters, the same storylines, in perpetuity.

Can't wait for the next "New" Spiderman movie. They got a new Uncle Ben! IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MOVIE!!11!!one!

I never said Nolan's movies were bad, or really even criticized them as films. I simply pointed out that they aren't comic book movies in the same sense the Avengers is. But good job being a dip**** as usual.

lolcopter
05-08-2012, 10:52 AM
"Ashamed" may or may not be the proper term, but you really can't argue that Nolan's Batman embraces its source material or its comic book origins in the same way The Avengers did. Come on now.

Batman comics have always been much darker than avengers

http://www.mylatestdistraction.com/mylatestdistraction/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Batman_The_Dark_Knight_B.jpg

Would you rather have Jim Carey prancing around in tights or what?

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 10:55 AM
Yeah batman was never that comic-y

The comic books were actually really dark in nature

What on earth does "comic-y" mean? They are comic books that have all kinds of silly and fantastic elements like most other comic books have. They are very "comic-y" as far as I can tell. Nolan's Batman series is very, very different from the comic books.

lolcopter
05-08-2012, 10:56 AM
What on earth does "comic-y" mean? They are comic books that have all kinds of silly and fantastic elements like most other comic books have. They are very "comic-y" as far as I can tell. Nolan's Batman series is very, very different from the comic books.

Super powers, creatures from other planets, super hero teams, etc

Batman has always been more of a detective/crime genre than super hero IMO


Joker, riddler, penguin, two face... All essentially normal villains... Not of the Loki ilk

houghtam
05-08-2012, 10:58 AM
"Ashamed" may or may not be the proper term, but you really can't argue that Nolan's Batman embraces its source material or its comic book origins in the same way The Avengers did. Come on now.

Nolan is on record saying his Batman is based off the Dark Detective series, as well as some of the early Detective Comics stuff. The Dark Knight's story is based mainly on The Long Halloween. To my recollection, there is zero supernatural stuff in any of those incantations...in fact, there is nothing "fake" about it, outside of there being a rich guy who fights crime with the help of his gadgets and detective skills.

The Avengers (both the movie and the mythos), however, is based on a rich guy who makes a suit, yes. But also a god from another dimension, a super strong gamma-radiated freak, a super soldier found frozen in the ice, etc.

The universes for both are so completely different that they cannot be compared as films. They are both technically "comic books" in that the characters they encompass were drawn in individual cells put together to tell a greater story, then colored in. The similarities pretty much end there.

lolcopter
05-08-2012, 11:00 AM
The universes for both are so completely different that they cannot be compared as films. They are both technically "comic books" in that the characters they encompass were drawn in individual cells put together to tell a greater story, then colored in. The similarities pretty much end there.

This x1000000000

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 11:01 AM
Batman comics have always been much darker than avengers

http://www.mylatestdistraction.com/mylatestdistraction/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Batman_The_Dark_Knight_B.jpg

Would you rather have Jim Carey prancing around in tights or what?

Why are people acting like I'm attacking the Nolan movies by simply pointing out that they are not particularly like the comics?

My original point remains, though I'll now clarify it a bit: The Avengers blows Dark Knight away in terms of bringing the comic books to life on the big screen. The Dark Knight on the other hand blows The Avengers away in terms of bridging comic book movies and true drama. So as a comic book movie, The Avengers is better, but as an overall film, it's either even or tipped a bit towards Dark Knight.

lolcopter
05-08-2012, 11:02 AM
Sounds like you never read the batman comics imo

Fedaykin
05-08-2012, 11:06 AM
"Ashamed" may or may not be the proper term, but you really can't argue that Nolan's Batman embraces its source material or its comic book origins in the same way The Avengers did. Come on now.

You clearly haven't read much Batman. There is a *ton* of Batman that includes exactly zero supernatural elements.

Nolan's Batman is based on the original Batman (and more recent versions that went back to his roots) from his early days before (hence the double meaning of the title of Batman Begins)

houghtam
05-08-2012, 11:10 AM
Why are people acting like I'm attacking the Nolan movies by simply pointing out that they are not particularly like the comics?

My original point remains, though I'll now clarify it a bit: The Avengers blows Dark Knight away in terms of bringing the comic books to life on the big screen. The Dark Knight on the other hand blows The Avengers away in terms of bridging comic book movies and true drama. So as a comic book movie, The Avengers is better, but as an overall film, it's either even or tipped a bit towards Dark Knight.

Please exit this thread, go read The Long Halloween, Batman: Dark Detective #1-#6, and some of the original stuff, then come back and give us some concrete examples on how dislike the comics Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 11:10 AM
Nolan is on record saying his Batman is based off the Dark Detective series, as well as some of the early Detective Comics stuff. The Dark Knight's story is based mainly on The Long Halloween. To my recollection, there is zero supernatural stuff in any of those incantations...in fact, there is nothing "fake" about it, outside of there being a rich guy who fights crime with the help of his gadgets and detective skills.

The Avengers (both the movie and the mythos), however, is based on a rich guy who makes a suit, yes. But also a god from another dimension, a super strong gamma-radiated freak, a super soldier found frozen in the ice, etc.

The universes for both are so completely different that they cannot be compared as films. They are both technically "comic books" in that the characters they encompass were drawn in individual cells put together to tell a greater story, then colored in. The similarities pretty much end there.

The Batman Mythos includes a guy who can change shape at will and looks like a gelatinous glob when in his unaltered state, a guy who is basically a giant reptilian mutant with super strength, a guy who has some kind of crazy super drug that turns him from a shrimp to a behemoth in a blink, a guy who takes regular baths in some magical pit that allows him to live forever, a guy whose metabolism exists at sub-zero temperatures somehow, and a chick who can control and manipulate plant life with her mind. Those are just the things that come to me right off the top of my head, and they don't seem all that different to me honestly.

Now if he based his movies off a particular sub-series that is more gritty and realistic, that makes sense and may negate my point of not being true to the comics. But in terms of the general Batman mythos, Nolan's Batman is something totally different.

Fedaykin
05-08-2012, 11:12 AM
Why are people acting like I'm attacking the Nolan movies by simply pointing out that they are not particularly like the comics?

My original point remains, though I'll now clarify it a bit: The Avengers blows Dark Knight away in terms of bringing the comic books to life on the big screen. The Dark Knight on the other hand blows The Avengers away in terms of bridging comic book movies and true drama. So as a comic book movie, The Avengers is better, but as an overall film, it's either even or tipped a bit towards Dark Knight.

Your original point is invalided by an obvious and glaring ignorance of the character.

Nolan's Batman is a very good adaptation of Batman to the screen. It's only not following the source material if your only experience with Batman is Vampire Batman.

houghtam
05-08-2012, 11:14 AM
The Batman Mythos includes a guy who can change shape at will and looks like a gelatinous glob when in his unaltered state, a guy who is basically a giant reptilian mutant with super strength, a guy who has some kind of crazy super drug that turns him from a shrimp to a behemoth in a blink, a guy who takes regular baths in some magical pit that allows him to live forever, a guy whose metabolism exists at sub-zero temperatures somehow, and a chick who can control and manipulate plant life with her mind. Those are just the things that come to me right off the top of my head, and they don't seem all that different to me honestly.

Now if he based his movies off a particular sub-series that is more gritty and realistic, that makes sense and may negate my point of not being true to the comics. But in terms of the general Batman mythos, Nolan's Batman is something totally different.

Do you even read comic books? Do you understand how they work? Characters are invented and reinvented all the time. Reading it chronologically doesn't do the characters justice.

Nolan took a portion of the Batman story which encompasses the essence of Batman (World's Greatest Detective...he was born in Detective Comics, for crying out loud), and put it on the screen in the context of some of the more well-known Batman lore. It is a very faithful adaptation of Batman.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 11:14 AM
Please exit this thread, go read The Long Halloween, Batman: Dark Detective #1-#6, and some of the original stuff, then come back and give us some concrete examples on how dislike the comics Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are.

Being like a particular sub-series of the comics is kind of different. I was referring to the greater mythos over the years. I haven't read comics since I was a teenager, so I'll take your word for it. My point remains that Nolan's Batman is very different from the core Batman mythos. If it's based off a certain sub-series, that's cool, and I'll retract my general statement that it isn't like the comics. It's simply not like the Batman comics I grew up reading.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 11:17 AM
Do you even read comic books? Do you understand how they work? Characters are invented and reinvented all the time. Reading it chronologically doesn't do the characters justice.

Nolan took a portion of the Batman story which encompasses the essence of Batman (World's Greatest Detective...he was born in Detective Comics, for crying out loud), and put it on the screen in the context of some of the more well-known Batman lore. It is a very faithful adaptation of Batman.

I haven't read comics in many years, but yes I know what you are talking about. Though the reinventing and rebooting of stuff seems to have become much more prominent since I quit following the stuff. Or at least that's my impression from what I hear.

houghtam
05-08-2012, 11:18 AM
Being like a particular sub-series of the comics is kind of different. I was referring to the greater mythos over the years. I haven't read comics since I was a teenager, so I'll take your word for it. My point remains that Nolan's Batman is very different from the core Batman mythos. If it's based off a certain sub-series, that's cool, and I'll retract my general statement that it isn't like the comics. It's simply not like the Batman comics I grew up reading.

The Batman comics you grew up reading are a very small portion of the larger Batman picture. There is no "core Batman mythos" other than the guy being the World's Greatest Detective. Everything else is one writer or another's take on Batman...I would argue that the comics that you grew up reading are a less-faithful adaptation of Batman's true character than Nolan's source material.

Fedaykin
05-08-2012, 11:19 AM
Do you even read comic books? Do you understand how they work? Characters are invented and reinvented all the time. Reading it chronologically doesn't do the characters justice.

Nolan took a portion of the Batman story which encompasses the essence of Batman (World's Greatest Detective...he was born in Detective Comics, for crying out loud), and put it on the screen in the context of some of the more well-known Batman lore. It is a very faithful adaptation of Batman.

Yep. There are dozens of incarnations of Batman (just like every long running comic). Nolan goes back to his roots and his most common style -- with a modern twist.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 11:20 AM
Your original point is invalided by an obvious and glaring ignorance of the character.

Nolan's Batman is a very good adaptation of Batman to the screen. It's only not following the source material if your only experience with Batman is Vampire Batman.

I have no ignorance of the character, and that isn't actually what I'm even talking about. Nolan's Batman is very much Batman as a character. I was talking about the emphasis on grit and realism over the fantastic, which are not consistent with the Batman I read when I was collecting comics (throughout most of the 90's).

lolcopter
05-08-2012, 11:20 AM
...I would argue that the comics that you grew up reading are a less-faithful adaptation of Batman's true character than Nolan's source material.

Seconded

Fedaykin
05-08-2012, 11:23 AM
I have no ignorance of the character, and that isn't actually what I'm even talking about. Nolan's Batman is very much Batman as a character. I was talking about the emphasis on grit and realism over the fantastic, which are not consistent with the Batman I read when I was collecting comics (throughout most of the 90's).

Wow coming back with "I have no ignorance of the character"? Really? Are you that brazen?

Reading a tiny fraction of the source material makes you well informed?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-08-2012, 11:27 AM
The Batman Mythos includes a guy who can change shape at will and looks like a gelatinous glob when in his unaltered state, a guy who is basically a giant reptilian mutant with super strength, a guy who has some kind of crazy super drug that turns him from a shrimp to a behemoth in a blink, a guy who takes regular baths in some magical pit that allows him to live forever, a guy whose metabolism exists at sub-zero temperatures somehow, and a chick who can control and manipulate plant life with her mind. Those are just the things that come to me right off the top of my head, and they don't seem all that different to me honestly.

Now if he based his movies off a particular sub-series that is more gritty and realistic, that makes sense and may negate my point of not being true to the comics. But in terms of the general Batman mythos, Nolan's Batman is something totally different.

In other words, Batman & Robin > The Dark Knight and Batman Begins.

Got it.

mwill07
05-08-2012, 11:35 AM
The only legitimate Batman adherent to the source material starred Adam West and had lots of "POW" and "ZAP" and "BAM"s. As long as The Dark Knight omits the action ballons, I refuse to acknowlege it as true to the comics.

Lestat
05-08-2012, 11:36 AM
Batman has ranged from many different scales over the time of his inception.
he was originally a mixture of Zorro,The Shadow and the Lone Ranger.
he carried a whip, a gun and he mercilessly killed his villains.

they revamped his character to make him adopt the no kill rule he has today(they did the same with Superman who originally killed his villains or lobotomized them). he was always a dark character and only in the 60's did he become campy and while it helped his popularity for a bit it nearly ruined his overall appeal after people got sick of it.

they turned back to the Dark Knight persona and gave him a more gritty and realistic comic direction.
Nolan's films are in homage to the Dark Knight era of Batman instead of incorporating the more comic elements like aliens, the justice league, more outlandish villains like the penguin, clayface and etc.

Batman has always been and always will be a more dark and serious comic than the avengers. i mean you had the Joker beat Jason Todd to death with a pipe because the fans hated him, Joker paralyzed Babara Gordon, there are various things in the comic version of Batman to draw from. Nolan excluding Robin was a dead giveaway that it would be a darker form.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 11:41 AM
The Batman comics you grew up reading are a very small portion of the larger Batman picture. There is no "core Batman mythos" other than the guy being the World's Greatest Detective. Everything else is one writer or another's take on Batman...I would argue that the comics that you grew up reading are a less-faithful adaptation of Batman's true character than Nolan's source material.

I'm sure you could. Though if you go look at the first four or five decades of Batman, and the art direction behind it, you'd be hard pressed to win that argument. The particularly dark and gritty take on Batman is relatively recent for the most part, and personally, even amongst that stuff, I never read any that lacked the fantastical and absurd elements of traditional Batman stories (though I don't doubt they exist).

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 11:45 AM
In other words, Batman & Robin > The Dark Knight and Batman Begins.

Got it.

Every time you post the human race gets a little bit more stupid.

Again, I am not saying I don't like Nolan's movies. Get that through your thick skull.

And Batman & Robin was a travesty against the human race.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 11:48 AM
Wow coming back with "I have no ignorance of the character"? Really? Are you that brazen?

Reading a tiny fraction of the source material makes you well informed?

Batman isn't exactly a super complex character (super heroes rarely are).

Fedaykin
05-08-2012, 11:55 AM
Batman isn't exactly a super complex character (super heroes rarely are).

You're not missing some subtlety, your missing the blatant.

And now despite being shown how wrong you are you continue to pretend otherwise.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 12:04 PM
To sum my point in imagery:

Nolan's Bane:
http://screencrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/the-dark-knight-rises-bane.jpg

Comic book Bane:
http://img2-3.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/02/15/dark-knight-06-cover_208.jpg

The Hulk in the Avengers:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS38JwuGhAQ-7WRjnuHuyBKwF0VQSMzFRtAhNUERU7KKpwlTknh0Ktv6DLZ

Comic Book Hulk:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3qw_Uk0Q1ekOMOtrY8bKNk3nlIulP-c0N67yO2guFNOOyi_urqQ

Really I can't say it better than these pictures do. And again, this isn't about me not liking Nolan's take on the subject matter. It's simply about the relative distance that exists between his films and the original material versus The Avengers and it relative closeness to its original material.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 12:07 PM
You're not missing some subtlety, your missing the blatant.

And now despite being shown how wrong you are you continue to pretend otherwise.

Missing what? The debate going on was never about the Batman character. It was about the lack of the fantastical in Nolan's movies versus the comics. No one has shown me I'm wrong, other than to point out that there have been certain Batman sub-series that had the same style and tone.

houghtam
05-08-2012, 12:21 PM
To sum my point in imagery:

Nolan's Bane:
http://screencrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/the-dark-knight-rises-bane.jpg

Comic book Bane:
http://img2-3.timeinc.net/ew/i/2012/02/15/dark-knight-06-cover_208.jpg

The Hulk in the Avengers:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS38JwuGhAQ-7WRjnuHuyBKwF0VQSMzFRtAhNUERU7KKpwlTknh0Ktv6DLZ

Comic Book Hulk:
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR3qw_Uk0Q1ekOMOtrY8bKNk3nlIulP-c0N67yO2guFNOOyi_urqQ

Really I can't say it better than these pictures do. And again, this isn't about me not liking Nolan's take on the subject matter. It's simply about the relative distance that exists between his films and the original material versus The Avengers and it relative closeness to its original material.

You're posting a still photo from a movie that hasn't yet been released and saying it negates what has already taken place in the first two films and their relation to 30+ years of Batman lore?

Wrong.

At best, your argument can be "from the looks of this photo, I think Avengers is truer to the source material for this movie than I think Nolan will be with the Bane storyline".

Your comparison on BB and TDK falls woefully flat, however.

Lestat
05-08-2012, 12:24 PM
it's not truly possible to transfer the comic version of a character to the big screen. they intentionally exaggerate the physical attributes of the characters.

Batman is some of the comics and cartoon animations is 6-3 240. Superman is 215-220 but he's bulkier than Batman in most cases.
Wolverine wears yellow spandex and is 5-3. you can't transfer certain things over to cinema and have it be both modern and believable to non comic fans.

you have to strike a balance between the essence of the comics and the presentation of real life.
sometimes you do it with the physique of the character and other times you tinker with their overall look.
that's why Jon Faveau is hesitant to use the Mandarin in cinematic form. he's hard to adapt to the realistic approach the films now take on.

Agamemnon
05-08-2012, 12:43 PM
You're posting a still photo from a movie that hasn't yet been released and saying it negates what has already taken place in the first two films and their relation to 30+ years of Batman lore?

Wrong.

At best, your argument can be "from the looks of this photo, I think Avengers is truer to the source material for this movie than I think Nolan will be with the Bane storyline".

Your comparison on BB and TDK falls woefully flat, however.

Nolan's entire style is based on a kind of psuedo-realism that just isn't present in any of the Batman comics I've ever read. I really don't get what you're arguing about at this point, because this would seem to be completely self-evident to me. Anyway, moving on now. Debating over two very different movie series, both of which I very much enjoy, for no real reason just kind of seems pointless. If you think Nolan's Batman is consistent with the comics, cool. I totally disagree, and still love the movies. So whatever.

Flex Gunmetal
05-08-2012, 12:50 PM
If you think Nolan's Batman is consistent with the comics, cool. I totally disagree, and still love the movies. So whatever.

Probably already been mentioned, but have you read Dark Knight Returns?


edit: didn't realize who i was quoting, nevermind.

Fedaykin
05-08-2012, 12:55 PM
Missing what? The debate going on was never about the Batman character. It was about the lack of the fantastical in Nolan's movies versus the comics. No one has shown me I'm wrong, other than to point out that there have been certain Batman sub-series that had the same style and tone.

I'm saying Batman's character as in his history, origins, common interpretations. not his specific character traits. You're clearly only familiar with more modern fantastical interpretations.

bronco militia
05-08-2012, 01:01 PM
yeah!!! nerds!!!

TheElusiveKyleOrton
05-08-2012, 02:44 PM
Every time you post the human race gets a little bit more stupid.

Again, I am not saying I don't like Nolan's movies. Get that through your thick skull.

And Batman & Robin was a travesty against the human race.

Projection.

That One Guy
05-08-2012, 08:49 PM
Completely geek-jacked.

theAPAOps5
05-08-2012, 08:54 PM
Wow this thread went full nerd in record speed. I think you guys should settle this over a game of magic

Fedaykin
05-08-2012, 09:38 PM
Yeah, cause that's completely unexpected to happen to a thread about a comic movie.

*eyeroll*

hambone13
05-08-2012, 10:15 PM
Stark talks about a food joint that serves schwarma and how they should all go. The last bonus theme is the avengers team sitting and eating schwarm with no dialogue and kind of confused looks.

Thanks, that makes perfect sense. How do you know it's schwarma, is it on the food containers or something? I love that stuff. It's awesome.

That One Guy
05-08-2012, 10:24 PM
Thanks, that makes perfect sense. How do you know it's schwarma, is it on the food containers or something? I love that stuff. It's awesome.

This, like Firefly, was something I thought they made up. I have so much to learn...

hambone13
05-08-2012, 11:02 PM
This, like Firefly, was something I thought they made up. I have so much to learn...

Shawrma is I believe, Lebanese. There are different renditions of it all over the middle east though. For example they call it a "Doner Kepab" in Turkey. It's basically meat (chicken, beef, or lamb) stacked in layers separated by fat and then cooked on one of those Gyro style vertical rotisseries. It's served just like gyro as meat alone or on a pita as a sammy. It's awesome. I like it better than gyro.

Jetmeck
05-09-2012, 02:14 AM
JC........an argument over make believe characters....................ok I have officially seen it all but really ??????????????

WHO GIVES A CHIT ??????????????

bronco militia
05-09-2012, 07:48 AM
I had a few schwarma's in Saidi Arabia.......they weren't bad at all. They are very similer to a Greek gyros.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/28/Jerusalem_shawarma.jpg/250px-Jerusalem_shawarma.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shawarma

55CrushEm
05-09-2012, 08:14 AM
yeah!!! nerds!!!

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/tZVdR19E5mU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Jay3
05-09-2012, 08:51 AM
I practically lived off street shawarma in the Middle East (military). We were on a high per diem to pay for meals, but I could get a shawarma for 40 cents. Two made a great supper.

Fedaykin
05-09-2012, 11:13 AM
This, like Firefly, was something I thought they made up. I have so much to learn...

LOL

How on Earth did you come to the conclusion that Firefly was made up?

Lestat
05-09-2012, 04:47 PM
went to see it today. holy **** it's awesome. Amazing Spider-Man and Dark Knight Rises are going to have to bring it, big time!

andre
05-10-2012, 07:34 AM
just get a plan with my family to see .

hambone13
05-10-2012, 09:21 AM
Wow this thread went full nerd in record speed. I think you guys should settle this over a game of magic

What I find interesting about this thread is that the same uber-argumentative jackass is just as ignorant and shallow about their comic book interpretations as they are about football.

hambone13
05-10-2012, 09:25 AM
just get a plan with my family to see .

**High Quality Post**

Lestat
05-10-2012, 10:24 AM
What I find interesting about this thread is that the same uber-argumentative jackass is just as ignorant and shallow about their comic book interpretations as they are about football.

i'm not gonna say you're right, but i will say that you're definitely not wrong.

Jay3
05-10-2012, 11:46 AM
just get a plan with my family to see .

http://i.imgur.com/oBvyb.jpg

TheChamp24
05-12-2012, 08:33 PM
I'll chip in here. I loved this, mainly because I love the Avengers concept and the Justice League concept, a group of Super Heroes having to work together to stop a super evil.

Now, Batman, while I like Batman Begins and Dark Knight, I don't particularly like the adaption to the motion picture screen of Batman. Not saying I liked the Clooney Batman's more, but... they could have done a little more to make it more "batman" if that makes sense. Like, I don't know, a base of operations in an actual cave? I think the new Batman games do a fairly good job of portraying Batman, but you can do a lot more in a video game than a movie.

One thing that makes me think, will we ever see a Justice League movie? I can not believe how well Marvel did with tying all the Avengers movies together and finally cranking out this piece of work. DC would have to really up the ante to compete, and I honestly think they should consider it if possible, but I doubt it.

Tyrell Jones
05-12-2012, 09:34 PM
Well done.

Lestat
05-12-2012, 11:25 PM
I'll chip in here. I loved this, mainly because I love the Avengers concept and the Justice League concept, a group of Super Heroes having to work together to stop a super evil.

Now, Batman, while I like Batman Begins and Dark Knight, I don't particularly like the adaption to the motion picture screen of Batman. Not saying I liked the Clooney Batman's more, but... they could have done a little more to make it more "batman" if that makes sense. Like, I don't know, a base of operations in an actual cave? I think the new Batman games do a fairly good job of portraying Batman, but you can do a lot more in a video game than a movie.

One thing that makes me think, will we ever see a Justice League movie? I can not believe how well Marvel did with tying all the Avengers movies together and finally cranking out this piece of work. DC would have to really up the ante to compete, and I honestly think they should consider it if possible, but I doubt it.

short answer is no, because Nolan handles Batman also the new Superman. he doesn't want to tie them into a Justice League movie and the studio wants him to helm the project.

will it eventually be made? probably as there is a lot of fan interest and studio interest. but if the studio keeps Nolan then not likely as he wants to keep Superman and Batman separate and they're the Captain America and Iron Man of the Justice League.

there was a Justice League movie in the works a few years back but it got shelved.

Bigdawg26
05-12-2012, 11:31 PM
It would take to long to make a Justice League movie anyways! You have to create a new Superman and introduce Aquaman, Flash, and Wonder Woman. Also you might have to reboot Batman besides I'm pretty sure or at least I hope the new movie will hold true to the comic book where Bane breaks batman's back! Besides do you really think Bale can work together with other movie stars?

TheChamp24
05-13-2012, 09:16 AM
short answer is no, because Nolan handles Batman also the new Superman. he doesn't want to tie them into a Justice League movie and the studio wants him to helm the project.

will it eventually be made? probably as there is a lot of fan interest and studio interest. but if the studio keeps Nolan then not likely as he wants to keep Superman and Batman separate and they're the Captain America and Iron Man of the Justice League.

there was a Justice League movie in the works a few years back but it got shelved.

Remember, Batman was a Justice League member, but if I remember right he was more of a "work on my own, I don't trust the alien" type of guy.
I really don't see a Justice League movie being made though due to how big Superman and Batman are.

It would take to long to make a Justice League movie anyways! You have to create a new Superman and introduce Aquaman, Flash, and Wonder Woman. Also you might have to reboot Batman besides I'm pretty sure or at least I hope the new movie will hold true to the comic book where Bane breaks batman's back! Besides do you really think Bale can work together with other movie stars?

Well, look how long it took Avengers to be made.
They are going to reboot Batman anyways because this is the last Batman movie for Nolan I believe, and someone will remake it and probably be less realistiic with it and more comic book fantasy.

hambone13
05-13-2012, 09:29 AM
i'm not gonna say you're right, but i will say that you're definitely not wrong.

I may be wrong for all I know, I may be right..... but I'm definitely not the lunatic you're looking for.

JCMElway
05-13-2012, 09:35 AM
Just watched it...

Wow it was amazing... best action flick and funniest movie of the year all in one...

And an awesome tease at the end of the credits for us hardcore marvel fans...

Did you see the scene AFTER the credits? When the credits actually ended?

JCMElway
05-13-2012, 09:37 AM
What I find interesting about this thread is that the same uber-argumentative jackass is just as ignorant and shallow about their comic book interpretations as they are about football.

And this from the guy who is currently playing an Internet Survivor game.

Oh, wait....

hambone13
05-13-2012, 09:38 AM
Remember, Batman was a Justice League member, but if I remember right he was more of a "work on my own, I don't trust the alien" type of guy.
I really don't see a Justice League movie being made though due to how big Superman and Batman are.



Well, look how long it took Avengers to be made.
They are going to reboot Batman anyways because this is the last Batman movie for Nolan I believe, and someone will remake it and probably be less realistiic with it and more comic book fantasy.

I love the general idea of it. There is just too much comedy (Hulk/Sheldon style) to not give it a shot. That same talent on "The Incredibles" stole the show. I really think that's one of the elements that makes these stories worth telling on the big screen. It's the build-up in the powers and how ludicrous they are in reality but hilarious and interesting to consider in one's imagination. Maybe I'm speaking out of my own super powered ass but that's what always got me in the first place. And yes, it sucks to be self-classified as "common" but damnit, that ****'s entertaining.

hambone13
05-13-2012, 10:56 AM
And this from the guy who is currently playing an Internet Survivor game.

Oh, wait....

I may be missing a reference or you are the jackass' biggest fan. Either way, I don't know where this is coming from or get the point of it.

OBF1
05-13-2012, 12:43 PM
Surpassed the billion dollar mark worldwide.

Beantown Bronco
05-13-2012, 03:44 PM
Surpassed the billion dollar mark worldwide.

And it's only the first of the "summer blockbusters". This entire summer is going to own the record books......by a wide margin.

Dutch
05-13-2012, 05:52 PM
And it's only the first of the "summer blockbusters". This entire summer is going to own the record books......by a wide margin.

I don't think it will just be the summer movies. I read somewhere a couple of weeks ago that boxoffice numbers were up around 15-20% for this year over last year already. This summer will crush the previous numbers, no doubt. Then you are looking at some pretty big flicks coming out around the holidays (The Hobbit alone will be an absolute cash cow globally). Should be a great year for Hollywood. Nice to see after the turds they put out the last couple.

Bigdawg26
05-13-2012, 07:27 PM
Surpassed the billion dollar mark worldwide.

Wow! already! It's a pretty awesome movie tho!

s0phr0syne
05-13-2012, 07:46 PM
The Justice League works well with the animated platform. I just can't see it translating very well to live action. It's possible, yes, but it would take a really committed effort to keep the same balancing act that Marvel was able to do with the Avengers.

At the end of the day, I hope they're able to make some more quality Batman movies that actually resonate with the audience on a deeper level. I'm much more of a Marvel fanboy, but while entertaining, the Marvel Studios flicks haven't been able to achieve the same depth that Batman Begins and Dark Knight did (DK in particular). The only one that came close was Iron Man.

broncocalijohn
05-13-2012, 08:28 PM
Wow this thread went full nerd in record speed. I think you guys should settle this over a game of magic

**** the reviews. We get Comic-con the last few pages.

Lestat
05-13-2012, 09:45 PM
Remember, Batman was a Justice League member, but if I remember right he was more of a "work on my own, I don't trust the alien" type of guy.
I really don't see a Justice League movie being made though due to how big Superman and Batman are.



Well, look how long it took Avengers to be made.
They are going to reboot Batman anyways because this is the last Batman movie for Nolan I believe, and someone will remake it and probably be less realistiic with it and more comic book fantasy.

He was more along the lines of the reluctant leader. Superman was the official one and Batman stayed in the shadows a bit but most of the tech was Wayne's and in most cases they looked to him for the solution.
but yeah you are right, he didn't trust the aliens. he had every one of their weaknesses and how to defeat them in a computer file in case they ever went rogue. he also carried a piece of kryptonite in case Superman got out of hand.

the Avengers didn't really take that long to make. Iron Man was the movie that took forever, it and Superman Returns spent 12+ years in developmental hell before getting made.

broncocalijohn
05-13-2012, 10:52 PM
**High Quality Post**

Well, the foreigner didnt get to finish his post.
It should continue with

...and then my and family order jerseys Wiketrade."

almost all his posts come in when you pop a jersey thread.