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BowlenBall
05-04-2012, 07:52 AM
Now that the draft and the main portion of free agency are finished, it's a long, quiet three months until training camp. To while away the empty hours, here's my guess at our final 53-man roster in 2012:

Quarterbacks
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 3
Positional Grade: B+
Positional Analysis: What a difference a year makes. The Broncos now have their quarterback of the present AND their quarterback of the future in Manning and Osweiler. The only reasons I didn't give this position an A are Manning's health questions, and the fact that Osweiler is simply not ready to step in and win games yet. I can see Weber possibly beating out Hanie for the 3rd quarterback spot, but if he doesn't, then he'll go back to our practice squad for another year.

Locks
Peyton Manning
Brock Osweiler

On the bubble
Caleb Hanie
Adam Weber



Running Backs
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 4
Positional Grade: A
Positional Analysis: This has suddenly become a position of strengh on the team. McGahee can still take over a game when he's healthy, and will probably remain our starting RB throughout the season. However, I can envision Hillman and Moreno getting pleny of carries (and catches) as well as part of a platoon or rotational system. Only one of the thee bubble players will make the roster, and I'm guessing it's Mario Fannin, who the coaches were reportedly very excited about last pre-season. I don't see the Broncos keeping a fullback this year, meaning Sylvester is gone.

Locks
Willis McGahee
Ronnie Hillman
Knowshon Moreno

On the bubble
Mario Fannin
Lance Ball
Jeremiah Johnson

Camp Fodder
Austin Sylvester (FB)
Xavier Omon



Wide Receivers
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 5
Positional Grade: B-
Positional Analysis: I like this wide receiver corps quite a bit, but almost every player has a question mark which keeps the overall grade in the B range. Thomas and Decker both have to prove that they can stay healthy, and that they can get in sync and on the same page with Manning in the new offense. Stokley will be excellent in the slot (will catch at least 50 balls this year), but he's 35 and in the twilight of his career. I don't see any way that Caldwell DOESN'T make the roster, but his career to date has been lackluster at best.The battle for the fifth and final roster spot will be one of the most interesting of training camp. I like Page to make it as the back-up slot receiver to Stokley, but Willis is better suited to backing up both the inside and outside, and has a cockroach-like ability to make the roster year after year. Robinson or Dell could also contend, but both are excellent practice-squad candidates as well.

Locks
Demaryius Thomas
Eric Decker
Brandon Stokley
Andre Caldwell

On the bubble
Matthew Willis
Eric Page
Gerell Robinson
Mark Dell

Camp Fodder
Jason Hill
Tyler Grisham
D'Andre Goodwin
Greg Orton



Tight Ends
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 3
Positional Grade: B
Positional Analysis: This position has become quite solid as well, and the final roster is probably set in stone with Tamme, Dreesen, and Thomas. Virgil Green will be on suspension for the first four weeks of the season, and he'll most likely make the roster again as a TE/FB/Special Teams player. Ingram and Miller are uninteresting, and I don't see either of them even making the practice squad.

Locks
Jacob Tamme
Joel Dreesen
Julius Thomas

On the bubble
Virgil Green

Camp Fodder
Cornelius Ingram
Anthony Miller



Offensive Linemen
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 9
Positional Grade: B+
Positional Analysis: Another strong position on offense for the Broncos, with great depth finally as well. Three of the four bubble players could make the roster, with Ramirez probably being the odd man out. Hopefully, Kuper returns at 100%, but if he doesn't then Blake and Beadles will probably be the starting guards, while J.D. Walton remains at center.

Locks
Ryan Clady
Orlando Franklin
Chris Kuper
J.D. Walton
Zane Beadles
Phillip Blake

On the Bubble
Ryan Harris
Tony Hills
Chris Clark
Manny Ramirez

Camp Fodder
Austin Wuebbels
Wayne Tribue
Adam Grant
Mike Remmers
C.J. Davis



Defensive Linemen
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 10
Positional Grade: B-
Positional Analysis: The top 7 look like a nice, solid defensive line rotation, with all of the players capable of sliding between a 3-4 DE and a 4-3 DT (or in the case of Dumerville, from DE to OLB). Ben Garland is an enigma who could surprise. Hunter and Unrein will probably make the team as well, but are nothing special and will be candidates to be bumped from the squad if any other players are picked up on waivers throughout the season.

Locks
Elvis Dumerville
Derek Wolfe
Robert Ayers
Ty Warren
Malik Jackson
Justin Bannan
Kevin Vickerson

On the Bubble
Jason Hunter
Ben Garland
Mitch Unrein
Jeremy Jarmon

Camp Fodder
Sealver Siliga
Jeremy Beal
Jamie Blatnick



Linebackers
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 7
Positional Grade: B-
Positional Analysis: Having a young all-star (Miller) on the squad raises this positional grade to a B-, but there are concerns here at the other WLB and MLB spots. DJ Williams is a solid pro, but will probably miss 6 games this season, meaning Woodyard will feature prominently for at least a portion of the season. He's another solid pro, but can be run on and passed on due to size limitations. Mays and Irving in the middle are, by any objective measure, below-average (unless Irving shows some major improvement from his rookie campaign).

Locks
Von Miller
DJ Williams
Nate Irving
Wesley Woodyard
Joe Mays

On the Bubble
Mike Mohammed
Danny Trevathan
Jerry Franklin

Camp Fodder
Steven Johnson
Cyril Obiozor
Elliot Coffey



Cornerbacks
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 5
Positional Grade: C+
Positional Analysis: Champ Bailey had a good 2011 season, but at some point in the near future, he'll lose that second step and become a liability -- I thought he would have been moved to free safety by now, but we should be able to squeeze one more pro bowl CB year out of him. Some good depth behind Bailey on the roster, but nothing earth-shattering. Lots of good nickle and dime backs, but no great #2 CB.

Locks
Champ Bailey
Tracy Porter
Omar Bolden
Chris Harris

On the Bubble
Syd'Quan Thompson
Cassius Vaughn
Coryell Judie

Camp Fodder
Tony Carter
Ramzee Robinson
Joshua Moore



Safeties
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 4
Positional Grade: D+
Positional Analysis: Probably the biggest weakness now on our entire team -- Carter and Moore are going to need to take major steps forward this season to keep this position from being our achilles heel. Duke Ihenacho seems to have done his homework well before choosing a team as a an undrafted free agent -- he's got a better-than-average chance to stick if they don't bring anyone else in.

Locks
Quinton Carter
Rahim Moore
David Bruton
Mike Adams

On the Bubble
Duke Ihenacho

Camp Fodder
Rafael Bush



Specialists
# on roster in 2011 Week One: 3
Positional Grade: A-
Positional Analysis: Same as last year -- both of our kickers are perennial contenders for the pro bowl, and Paxton is a steady long-snapper.

Locks
Matt Prater
Britton Colquitt
Lonnie Paxton

Camp Fodder
Aaron Brewer



Final Projected 53-Man Roster

QB: Manning / Osweiler / Hanie
RB: McGahee / Hillman / Moreno / Fannin
WR: D. Thomas / Caldwell
WR: Decker / Willis
WR: Stokley / Page
TE: Tamme / Dreesen / J. Thomas / Green
LT: Clady / Harris
LG: Beadles
OC: Walton / Blake
RG: Kuper
RT: Franklin / Hills

DT: Warren / Bannan
DE: Dumerville / Hunter
DE: Ayers / Jackson
DT: Wolfe / Vickerson / Garland
SLB: Miller / Franklin
MLB: Irving / Mays
WLB: Williams / Woodyard / Travathan
CB: Bailey / Bolden
CB: Porter / Harris / Thompson
SS: Carter / Bruton
FS: Moore / Adams

K: Prater
P: Colquitt
LS: Paxton

Practice Squad

1. QB Adam Weber
2. WR Gerrel Robinson
3. WR Mark Dell
4. DE Jeremy Beal
5. LB Steven Johnson
6. CB Coryell Judie
7. SS Duke Ihenacho
8. (player to be acquired during final cut-downs)

Endy
05-04-2012, 07:57 AM
Very nicely done.

Drunk Monkey
05-04-2012, 07:58 AM
Not to sure about Stokley being a lock. He is going to have to fight for that roster spot.

Ronnie Tsunami
05-04-2012, 07:59 AM
No way that Mike Adams is camp fodder. He's going to provide unreliable depth. And Sydquan being on the bubble? No way to that as well. I almost feel the same way about Cassius.

Other then that, no way we keep 2 guards on the roster, and no way we keep 0 fullbacks.

Good list though.

Drunk Monkey
05-04-2012, 08:01 AM
Also Mike Adams is not camp fodder. He will make the team and probably will start.

phibacka31
05-04-2012, 08:07 AM
IMO, you are out of your mind to think Mike Adams is just camp Fodder...

TheReverend
05-04-2012, 08:08 AM
Criticisms:

The staff used Clark anytime they needed another blocker. He's a lock to make the roster as a primary swing backup and package player.

Page doesnt make the roster over Hill... and odds are Stokley will be a camp teacher and gone in favor for someone who can play ST when the season comes.

Unrein over Garland

Adams is a roster lock

I'd restructure it like this:

QB: Manning / Osweiler / Hanie
RB: McGahee / Hillman / Moreno / Ball
FB: Sylvester
WR: D. Thomas / Caldwell / Hill
WR: Decker / Willis
TE: Tamme / Dreesen / J. Thomas / Green
LT: Clady / Harris
LG: Beadles
OC: Walton / Blake
RG: Kuper / Clark (swing)
RT: Franklin

DT: Bannan / Warren
DE: Dumerville / Hunter
DE: Ayers / Jackson
DT: Vickerson / Wolfe / Unrein
SLB: Miller / Mohammed
MLB: Mays / Irving
WLB: Williams / Woodyard
CB: Bailey / Bolden / Vaughn
CB: Porter / Harris / Thompson
SS: Carter / Bruton
FS: Adams / Moore

K: Prater
P: Colquitt
LS: Paxton

TonyR
05-04-2012, 08:08 AM
Not to sure about Stokley being a lock.

I sure hope not. That wouldn't say much for the rest of the guys currently on the roster.

Moreno may not be a lock, either.

And Adams will probably be a starter.

BroncoBen
05-04-2012, 08:08 AM
Very nicely done.

No kidding... good work.

TheReverend
05-04-2012, 08:09 AM
^ probably too OL heavy

Maybe swap Hills for Squid for more ST impact

BowlenBall
05-04-2012, 08:09 AM
IMO, you are out of your mind to think Mike Adams is just camp Fodder...

I'm not a fan of Adams, but you're right -- he'll probably make the team as a back-up. An oversight on my part - I'll re-jigger that in the first post....

BowlenBall
05-04-2012, 08:13 AM
No way that Mike Adams is camp fodder. He's going to provide unreliable depth. And Sydquan being on the bubble? No way to that as well. I almost feel the same way about Cassius.

Other then that, no way we keep 2 guards on the roster, and no way we keep 0 fullbacks.

Good list though.

Freudian slip?

BowlenBall
05-04-2012, 08:24 AM
Criticisms:

The staff used Clark anytime they needed another blocker. He's a lock to make the roster as a primary swing backup and package player.

Page doesnt make the roster over Hill... and odds are Stokley will be a camp teacher and gone in favor for someone who can play ST when the season comes.

Unrein over Garland

Adams is a roster lock

I'd restructure it like this:

QB: Manning / Osweiler / Hanie
RB: McGahee / Hillman / Moreno / Ball
FB: Sylvester
WR: D. Thomas / Caldwell / Hill
WR: Decker / Willis
TE: Tamme / Dreesen / J. Thomas / Green
LT: Clady / Harris
LG: Beadles
OC: Walton / Blake
RG: Kuper / Clark (swing)
RT: Franklin

DT: Bannan / Warren
DE: Dumerville / Hunter
DE: Ayers / Jackson
DT: Vickerson / Wolfe / Unrein
SLB: Miller / Mohammed
MLB: Mays / Irving
WLB: Williams / Woodyard
CB: Bailey / Bolden / Vaughn
CB: Porter / Harris / Thompson
SS: Carter / Bruton
FS: Adams / Moore

K: Prater
P: Colquitt
LS: Paxton

Critiques to your criticisms:

1) I had to choose between Hills and Clark for the final O-Line spot, and I think Hills has a bit more able to play RT or LT in a pinch. Could definitely see it going either way, though, as Clark played very well in spot duty last year.

2) Page is going to be a pleasant surprise for us -- very excited about his prospects.

3) Nobody has any idea how Garland is going to play after two years off... I'm just betting that our very Republican front office will have a soft spot in their hearts for the armed forces veteran. Unrein is just a guy.

4) Stokley is BFF with Manning -- they'll play well together, and Manning will use a little influence to keep him on the roster.

5) Right on Adams -- amended in original post

Archer81
05-04-2012, 08:26 AM
So...we go into 2012 with no FB on the roster? Also think Warren either retires or gets cut and Garland gets his spot.

Just an inkling.

:Broncos:

TheReverend
05-04-2012, 08:32 AM
Critiques to your criticisms:

1) I had to choose between Hills and Clark for the final O-Line spot, and I think Hills has a bit more able to play RT or LT in a pinch. Could definitely see it going either way, though, as Clark played very well in spot duty last year.

2) Page is going to be a pleasant surprise for us -- very excited about his prospects.

3) Nobody has any idea how Garland is going to play after two years off... I'm just betting that our very Republican front office will have a soft spot in their hearts for the armed forces veteran. Unrein is just a guy.

4) Stokley is BFF with Manning -- they'll play well together, and Manning will use a little influence to keep him on the roster.

5) Right on Adams -- amended in original post

A PS spot for Garland is plenty. Mitch made the active roster for 14 games, played ST and has lots of game experience in just his rookie season... something invaluable with so many walking band aids at the position currently.

schaaf
05-04-2012, 08:38 AM
I think Rev's is spot on, but the only thing I could argue is that they try to find a way to keep Eric Page because there has been a lot of talk that they want him for his return ability.

Play2win
05-04-2012, 08:51 AM
Great Job! Thanks!! :thumbsup:

Dos Rios
05-04-2012, 09:02 AM
No competition for Colquitt?

Drunken.Broncoholic
05-04-2012, 09:43 AM
Fannin will make the team. I would comment on mike Adams and stokely but previous posters successfully fired their posts in before me.

Carmelo15
05-04-2012, 10:11 AM
Great post! There's just a few changes I would make to the end of the roster. Tamme and Green will play H-Back. Where on occasion they could be lined up in the backfield. Here's my 53:

Cuts in red
Additions in bold

QB: Manning / Osweiler / Hanie
RB: McGahee / Hillman / Moreno / Fannin
WR: D. Thomas / G. Robinson
WR: Decker / Caldwell
WR: Stokley / Willis/ Page
Move TE: Dreesen / J. Thomas
H-Back: Tamme / Green
LT: Clady / Harris
LG: Beadles
OC: Walton / Blake
RG: Kuper
RT: Franklin / Clark /Hills

DT: Warren / Bannan
DE: Dumerville / Hunter
DE: Ayers / Jackson
DT: Wolfe/ Vickerson / Garland
SLB: Miller/ Franklin
MLB: Irving / Mays
WLB: Williams/ Woodyard / Travathan
CB: Bailey / Bolden / Vaughn
CB: Porter / Harris / Thompson
SS: Carter / Bruton
FS: Moore / Adams

K: Prater
P: Colquitt
LS: Paxton

With Malik Jackson and Ayers ability to swing to DT on 3rd down I believe we can get away with keeping 4 DTs. Add in the fact that Von essentially becomes a DE on 3rd and I think it makes more sense to add a 10th DB with better ST value than Garland. I see Cassius Vaughn making the team, with Duke Ihenacho as a sleeper.

JLesSPE
05-04-2012, 10:38 AM
My stab at it

QB: Manning / Osweiler / Weber
RB: McGahee / Hillman / Johnson / Fannin
WR: D. Thomas /G. Robinson
WR: Decker / Caldwell / Page
TE: Dreesen / J. Thomas
TE: Tamme / Green
LT: Clady
LG: Beadles / Wuebbels
OC: Walton / Blake
RG: Kuper
RT: Franklin / Harris

DE: Dumerville / Hunter
DT: Warren / Bannan
DT: Wolfe/ Vickerson / Blatnik
DE: Ayers / Jackson
SLB: Miller/ Franklin
MLB: Irving / Mays
WLB:Woodyard / Travathan
CB: Bailey / Bolden / Vaughn
CB: Porter / Harris / Thompson / Judie
SS: Carter / Bruton
FS: Adams / Moore

K: Prater
P: Colquitt
LS: Paxton

I think Williams and Moreno are gone. Too many headaches and injuries along with a lack of production from Knowshon.

OBF1
05-04-2012, 10:41 AM
With a Manning led team, I just do not see only 5 WR's being on the roster.


PS: Why list DJ WIlliams as the starter, he is missing a 3rd of the season.

Bmore Manning
05-04-2012, 11:25 AM
QB: Manning / Osweiler / Hanie
RB: McGahee / Hillman / Moreno / Fanin
WR: D. Thomas / Caldwell / Page
WR: Decker / Stokely /
TE: Tamme / Dreesen / J. Thomas / Green
LT: Clady / Harris
LG: Beadles
OC: Walton / Blake
RG: Kuper / Clark (swing)
RT: Franklin

DT: Bannan / Warren
DE: Dumerville / Hunter
DE: Ayers / Jackson
DT: Wolfe / Vickerson / Garland
SLB: Miller / Mohammed
MLB: Mays / Irving / Franklin
WLB: Williams / Woodyard / Trevathan
CB: Bailey / Bolden / Vaughn
CB: Porter / Harris / Thompson
SS: Carter / Inhelado
FS: Adams / Moore

K: Prater
P: Colquitt
LS: Paxton

Bmore Manning
05-04-2012, 11:27 AM
With a Manning led team, I just do not see only 5 WR's being on the roster.


PS: Why list DJ WIlliams as the starter, he is missing a 3rd of the season.

Indy ran over 80% of their plays from 2TE and 3WR sets. Indy only dressed 5 WR. I would see this being similar here.

OBF1
05-04-2012, 11:38 AM
Indy ran over 80% of their plays from 2TE and 3WR sets. Indy only dressed 5 WR. I would see this being similar here.

I understand that, BUT our WR's are made of glass.

TheReverend
05-04-2012, 11:42 AM
I understand that, BUT our WR's are made of glass.

When that happens the others will be around to grab. Ain't nobody gonna pick those dudes up.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
05-04-2012, 03:30 PM
QB: Manning, Hanie, Osweiler
RB: McGahee, Hillman, Moreno, Fannin
WR: Thomas, Hill
WR: Decker, Willis
WR: Caldwell, Page (PR)
TE: Tamme, Dreesen, Thomas, Green (FB)
OT: Clady, Franklin, Harris, Clark
OG: Kuper, Beadles, Blake, Davis
OC: Walton

DT: Wolfe, Bannan, Warren, Vickerson
DE: Dumervil, Ayers, Hunter, Jackson
LB: Miller, Mays, Williams, Woodyard, Irving, Trevathan
CB: Bailey, Porter, Harris, Bolden, Vaughn (KR)
S: Carter, Adams, Moore, Bruton, Ihenacho

K: Prater
P: Colquitt
H: Paxton



Practice Squad:
1. Weber
2. Robinson
3. Dell
4. Wuebbels
5. Beal
6. Mohamed
7. Franklin
8. Judie

broncosteven
05-04-2012, 03:45 PM
Anyone else think this thread is just "projecting"?

LOL

broncosteven
05-04-2012, 03:48 PM
Not to sure about Stokley being a lock. He is going to have to fight for that roster spot.

I don't know if he makes it out of TC or PS. I thought he was just brought in to teach. Just gut nothing to back that up with.

sgbfan
05-04-2012, 03:51 PM
A few minor tweeks imo.

If you aren't going to give QB an A because of health concerns, I don't think you can give RB and A. McGahee has always had health problems and Moreno... On that note, our WR's have had trouble staying healthy as well, as have our DT's and even OL. Hope we can stay healthy.

We are weak at LB and S. Hope Irving and Moore pick it up this season.

I hope that we found a gem in Bolden and get another to pair with him next year so we can have the best FS in the league for the next few years in Champ. Either that or hope Moore learns how to tackle this year.

Don't think Stokley is a lock. Just having him in camp will be a big help though. I would bet he makes it though.

Caleb Hanie is pretty close to a lock, and Weber is likely PS.