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footstepsfrom#27
05-01-2012, 06:51 AM
I watched the draft on NFL Network and wondered what other people thought of it. I thought they did a piss poor job of it, an opinion more reinforced by looking at it again since I recorded it. Not only did they skip tons of picks because they had up to 6 or 7 commercials at one shot, which is probably understandable, but they also added to the problem by the endless promos of their own work, skipping multiple picks at one time due to these stupid promos that were pimping their draft coverage...as if people already watching the draft needed to be beaten up with miles of video footage of New York City, babies with players, usally the same scenes repeated ad naseum ad infinitum, etc...basically they blew covering about half the picks in rounds 4-7 due to their need to promote what we were already trying to watch...idiotic.

On top of that, they started off with 5 analysts, and 3 would have been more than enough. By the time every one of these guys cycled through with non-related comments often times more picks went by without any information. What info they did provide usually sucked. For example, they called Ronnie Hillman a 3rd down change of pace back, but despite the kid's size at 200 pounds, he was a workhourse back at SDSU and they might have pointed out that nearly 3300 yards rushing and 36 TD's from the YOUNGEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT in only two seasons might bode well for him adding a few pounds and growing into an NFL ready every down guy. Some teams (Dallas for example) went nearly the entire draft with no video footage on any of their picks after the first round, others had endless commentary on stuff that probably nobody cared about. All in all I give them an F for ****up which is what it was. I didn't check ESPN's show so I don't know what it was like but it would be hard to get worse than this.

Thoughts?

jhns
05-01-2012, 06:53 AM
I thought they were worse than before. I have watched the draft on the NFLN for the past couple years. I found myself watching much more ESPN this year. Only the first two days though. ESPN was always multiple picks behind NFLN on the last day.

Drek
05-01-2012, 06:57 AM
Still better than ESPN.

Though yes, I think the pace of this draft left them shell shocked and scrambling to keep up with selections.

As for their comments on Hillman, well, they aren't exactly going to felate a 3rd round pick. But yes, he has more than change of pace back potential here. Manning has never played with gigantic backs. Its more important for the guy to be good in pass pro, run good routes, and catch the football. Hillman is questionable in pass pro but looks good at the other two. He's pretty comparable size to LeSean McCoy and no one questions his ability to be an every down back.

BroncoInferno
05-01-2012, 06:58 AM
I thought they were worse than before. I have watched the draft on the NFLN for the past couple years. I found myself watching much more ESPN this year. Only the first two days though. ESPN was always multiple picks behind NFLN on the last day.

I thought NFLN was overrated anyway. Kiper doesn't bother me as much as some people, and they have better "scoop" guys like Schefter. They conduct better interviews, too. I usually watch ESPN coverage and record NFLN.

BowlenBall
05-01-2012, 07:11 AM
Totally agree.

1) Far too many promos -- it seemed like half of their on-air time was pimping some other show.

2) Far too many commercial breaks -- on day 3, they would often have 3 minutes of commercials, 5 minutes of content (with half of that being promos), then go straight back to another 3 minutes of commercials.... over and over and over and over.

3) Missing picks, talking over picks, getting off subject instead of talking about picks... odd how they can't understand that the reason we're watching if for the goddamned picks!

4) Guest coaches -- too many. Cover the goddamned picks!

Kaylore
05-01-2012, 07:19 AM
Espn's day three "coverage" was basically NFL Live being held at the combine. They didn't really talk about any of the picks at all. I thought the NFLN crew did a better job of being specific about each player. ESPN only covered the "glamour teams" and when they did they barely spoke about the pick at all. "Here are the last five picks. The Jets took a running back. What will this mean for the stress on Mark Sanchez this year?"

Dr. Broncenstein
05-01-2012, 07:19 AM
Sirius absolutely owns the draft coverage. Pat Kirwan, Tim Ryan, and Gil Brandt...

55CrushEm
05-01-2012, 07:20 AM
I thought NFLN was overrated anyway. Kiper doesn't bother me as much as some people, and they have better "scoop" guys like Schefter. They conduct better interviews, too. I usually watch ESPN coverage and record NFLN.

This. Is it just me, or is Rich Eisen seem like an idiot? He just doesn't seem to very much football knowledge at all. His interviews on Total Access are borderline embarrassing.

I hate Kiper, and alot of the other clowns at ESPN.....but the only draw for me on NFLN is Mayock.

Both networks have a lot of negatives, IMO.

For the most part I would do the same as you......watch the draft on ESPN.....record NFLN, and then just listen to what Mayock had to say later about the picks.

footstepsfrom#27
05-01-2012, 07:28 AM
I think the best draft coverage by far that I''ve found is Dallas area radio station Sports Radio 1310 the Ticket, which goes wall to wall and has detailed info on every single pick, plus you can tune in on the internet. The only drawback is you have to listen to the insanely annoying voice of Norm Hitzgius, who sounds like a laughing hyena on meth when he gets rolling. Other than that...it's tight. These TV guys are all more interested in their own face time, and definitely agree that Rich Eisen is completely unnecessary.

Dr. Broncenstein
05-01-2012, 07:37 AM
The log jam situation where picks are in but the commish is busy with pagentry has got to go. Total bullshiat when twitter is better coverage than the NFLN.

TheReverend
05-01-2012, 07:40 AM
Sirius absolutely owns the draft coverage. Pat Kirwan, Tim Ryan, and Gil Brandt...

^

TheReverend
05-01-2012, 07:41 AM
The log jam situation where picks are in but the commish is busy with pagentry has got to go. Total bullshiat when twitter is better coverage than the NFLN.

^

spdirty
05-01-2012, 07:50 AM
I don't know, mayock is so much better than kiper, don't think I could switch to espn.

McDman
05-01-2012, 08:02 AM
Didn't bother me. At least they didn't tip picks all of the time.

tsiguy96
05-01-2012, 08:02 AM
i heard a PR/media guy from some company on sirius nfl radio radio the day before the draft talking about how NFLN and ESPN are taking 2 different approaches to the draft. NFLN is trying to bombard you with people, getting opinions from as many people as possible in as short a time as possible, whereas espn was sticking with a few people like kiper and mcshay and a few others and getting their consistent opinion throughout the draft.

JLesSPE
05-01-2012, 08:20 AM
I watched one until I got fed up with it and changed to the other network...usually about 15 minutes. Put my remote through a workout through those 3 days

Tombstone RJ
05-01-2012, 08:59 AM
I watched the draft on NFL Network and wondered what other people thought of it. I thought they did a piss poor job of it, an opinion more reinforced by looking at it again since I recorded it. Not only did they skip tons of picks because they had up to 6 or 7 commercials at one shot, which is probably understandable, but they also added to the problem by the endless promos of their own work, skipping multiple picks at one time due to these stupid promos that were pimping their draft coverage...as if people already watching the draft needed to be beaten up with miles of video footage of New York City, babies with players, usally the same scenes repeated ad naseum ad infinitum, etc...basically they blew covering about half the picks in rounds 4-7 due to their need to promote what we were already trying to watch...idiotic.

On top of that, they started off with 5 analysts, and 3 would have been more than enough. By the time every one of these guys cycled through with non-related comments often times more picks went by without any information. What info they did provide usually sucked. For example, they called Ronnie Hillman a 3rd down change of pace back, but despite the kid's size at 200 pounds, he was a workhourse back at SDSU and they might have pointed out that nearly 3300 yards rushing and 36 TD's from the YOUNGEST PLAYER IN THE DRAFT in only two seasons might bode well for him adding a few pounds and growing into an NFL ready every down guy. Some teams (Dallas for example) went nearly the entire draft with no video footage on any of their picks after the first round, others had endless commentary on stuff that probably nobody cared about. All in all I give them an F for ****up which is what it was. I didn't check ESPN's show so I don't know what it was like but it would be hard to get worse than this.

Thoughts?

I watched the NFLN.com stream on the web and it was much more tolerable than trying to watch their TV crap. The nfln has a lot of commercials to begin with and I think that is because it's a young network trying to generate $ which I understand. But they do way too much self promotion crap. If they want to advertise about themselves, put those commercials on another channel, buy advertising time from ABC or CNN or whatever. Quit pumping your crap on the NFLN where I'm already watching. The only thing I can think of is they don't have to pay for their own advertising space so they just keep this crap on their own channel. ESPN does the same thing, part of the reason it sucks so bad too.

Meh, if you are paying for a channel you shouldn't have to watch commercials ad nausium but NFLN doesn't get it. It's pretty crappy all things considered.

baja
05-01-2012, 09:01 AM
Sirius absolutely owns the draft coverage. Pat Kirwan, Tim Ryan, and Gil Brandt...

This and it's no contest.

peacepipe
05-01-2012, 09:04 AM
the two main things that bothered me was lombardi anouncing the pick before the pick & les miles inability to complete a sentence coherently.

Chris
05-01-2012, 09:07 AM
Will consider sirius next year. Rich Eisen might know nothing about football, but I find the guy incredibly entertaining. Don't care about anyone else but Mayock. If NFLN had Eisen, Mayock and another guy that was up to Mayock in terms of his research... that would be ideal.

Tombstone RJ
05-01-2012, 09:07 AM
What was embarrasing was watching Ted Sundquist on nfln.com. Dude sucks. He's completely clueless and kept reverting back to "well when I was with the Broncos we drafted so and so...."

So what Ted. Do you have a freaking clue about this pick or not?

broncocalijohn
05-01-2012, 09:09 AM
I find radio guys do a much better job since it is all audio and no video. They can grab things in the studio and you would have no clue they were hussling around when the next pick was brought up in 2 minutes instead of 5 minutes. Of course visual helps when you have no idea who the player is that just got drafted.

Chris
05-01-2012, 09:18 AM
What was embarrasing was watching Ted Sundquist on nfln.com. Dude sucks. He's completely clueless and kept reverting back to "well when I was with the Broncos we drafted so and so...."

So what Ted. Do you have a freaking clue about this pick or not?

I switched to the tv feed the second he was announced.

Archer81
05-01-2012, 09:53 AM
i heard a PR/media guy from some company on sirius nfl radio radio the day before the draft talking about how NFLN and ESPN are taking 2 different approaches to the draft. NFLN is trying to bombard you with people, getting opinions from as many people as possible in as short a time as possible, whereas espn was sticking with a few people like kiper and mcshay and a few others and getting their consistent opinion throughout the draft.


Are the reasons I left it on NFLN.

:Broncos:

socalorado
05-01-2012, 09:56 AM
^

Agreed. On both ^ :strong:

shalowlow
05-01-2012, 10:04 AM
Did anyone see when the Broncos picked Malik Jackson, Rich Eisen goes: "and the Broncos have picked DeMalik Jackson" and when everyone corrected him he realized that the position the player plays is silent.

Dr. Broncenstein
05-01-2012, 10:14 AM
Did anyone see when the Broncos picked Malik Jackson, Rich Eisen goes: "and the Broncos have picked DeMalik Jackson" and when everyone corrected him he realized that the position the player plays is silent.

Lol dats raycest.

ghwk
05-01-2012, 11:05 AM
Sirius absolutely owns the draft coverage. Pat Kirwan, Tim Ryan, and Gil Brandt...

You know I listened to a fair bit of this as well and i was a bit disappointed. I think it was Ryan who kept saying "I think that's a great pick" over and over then on Monday when they started recapping the draft they were hammering guys and teams that they had been praising.

Poe was a great pick for kansas City on Thursday, on Monday it was horrible. I was expecting more consistency from guys I typically like listening to.

DarkHorse
05-01-2012, 12:13 PM
I miss the days when i'd watch the draft and they would actually show footage of the players drafted. ESPN did that this year, NFLN did not. I recorded both stations and found myself flipping back n forth between the two looking for footage.

Thank God for Twitter and Youtube.

BroncoLifer
05-01-2012, 01:25 PM
The best thing I can say about the NFLN coverage is that at least they, unlike ESPN, didn't begin and end every commercial break with the garbage known as hip-hop. And get off my lawn!

Circle Orange
05-01-2012, 05:33 PM
The coverage was compressed down to about a third, so a lot got skimmed through. The top two picks had already been beaten to death, so the scramble was on to discuss other qbs.Then there was the standard "draft grade" thing done. I always record the draft anyway, and check out the parts that interest me. Unless the weather sucks, I ain't sitting through hours of that mess.

But you gotta love Mel Kiper. Year in, year out, he finds some way to stick John Elway's name in the mix.

Pony Boy
05-01-2012, 07:03 PM
Sirius absolutely owns the draft coverage. Pat Kirwan, Tim Ryan, and Gil Brandt...

^5 Total agreement, the best draft coverage by far...... Gil Brandt "is what it is"

baja
05-01-2012, 07:05 PM
^5 Total agreement, the best draft coverage by far...... Gil Brandt "is what it is"

Yep Gil is my fav.

gunns
05-01-2012, 07:28 PM
I don't know, mayock is so much better than kiper, don't think I could switch to espn.

While Mayock is the reason I watched NFLN, I got a little disgusted with him always being positive about the pick. C'mon dude, you know some of the teams lost their minds in some of those picks. Be honest

Dr. Broncenstein
05-01-2012, 07:51 PM
^5 Total agreement, the best draft coverage by far...... Gil Brandt "is what it is"

He's the godfather, is what he is.

BroncoMan4ever
05-01-2012, 08:52 PM
I thought NFLN was overrated anyway. Kiper doesn't bother me as much as some people, and they have better "scoop" guys like Schefter. They conduct better interviews, too. I usually watch ESPN coverage and record NFLN.

every time i see Eddie Munster i want to jam a pencil through my ears so i don't have to listen to his voice spouting out useless diarhea. as much as i like Schefter because he is one of if not the best on getting the good scoops, i hate the rest of ESPN.

i just follow Schefter's twitter page and get the rest of my news off the internet and avoid both channels.

Garcia Bronco
05-01-2012, 09:14 PM
i didn't have a problem with it to not have to listen to Mel Kiper. in the end though, it's all the samething.

lonestar
05-01-2012, 09:14 PM
I dvr'd it all and skipped through all the commercials and only concentrated of the DEN picks..

so seven hours or so of time was boiled down to about an hour and a half ..

spent my other time with Wife as this year once again it was our anniversary..

Had more fun than normal.. ^5

baja
05-01-2012, 09:40 PM
I like doses of Mel Kiper, small doses.

Dude's got energy though I'll give him that.