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lonestar
04-29-2012, 07:58 PM
New Obama Ad Suggests Romney Wouldn’t Have Ordered Bin Laden Raid
Posted on April 29, 2012 by Cowboy Byte


Ugly desperation from Team Obama, and it’s not even May yet. Behold, The One’s latest ad, congratulating himself over his signature “gutsy call,” and….raising questions about his Republican adversary:

Like everything else the man says, Obama’s admonition against “spiking the football” after bin Laden’s execution came with an expiration date. The administration has been dancing in the endzone every chance they get, engaging in tawdry and ahistorical point-scoring over the successful mission.

http://cowboybyte.com/7051/awful-new-obama-ad-suggests-romney-wouldnt-have-ordered-bin-laden-raid/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BD75KOoNR9k

W*GS
04-29-2012, 08:01 PM
Romney would want OBL alive so OBL could be used as a boogeyman to scare the American people into surrendering their liberties.

Bush certainly used OBL when it suited his misadministration to do so.

'Course, lonestar was one of the obedient sheep so when Bush raised the spectre of OBL, lonestar appropriately **** himself.

cutthemdown
04-29-2012, 08:17 PM
Trying to say this raid is risky is sort of a lie. Would they have even told us if the Seals died and Bin Laden wasn't even there? I think they would have just said Navy Seals die in helicopter crash on an operation in Pakistan. No surprise we all know we have troops fighting all over the place. Biden said, if it had failed, is there any doubt he would have been a 1 term President? More lies IMO. Obama would have just lied to us about it and said the helicopter broke down or something.

It's great they got Bin Laden, but Obama trying to act like this was like McCarthur retaking the Philippines, or the Inchon landing, or D-Day is a joke. It was a special forces operation that was not much different then hundreds of other ones the seals have done. Its just this one was for a huge enemy.

Whatever though its about all Obama has to make a commercial about. You think he is going to make one on how gas prices are low, or you are better off then you were 4 yrs ago, or how his Afghan pullout is so perfect, or one about green energy? or his healthcare thats about to get ripped apart by the Supreme Court, or about how he has handled our immigration problem, or fast and furious? Or maybe better yet maybe one about his stimulus plan and how he said it would lower unemployment?

Dude is a complete trainwreck and its amazing he's probably going to win again. The checks and balances will work eventually and hopefully our Supreme Court, and Congress, will step on him.

lonestar
04-29-2012, 08:19 PM
Romney would want OBL alive so OBL could be used as a boogeyman to scare the American people into surrendering their liberties.

Bush certainly used OBL when it suited his misadministration to do so.

'Course, lonestar was one of the obedient sheep so when Bush raised the spectre of OBL, lonestar appropriately **** himself.

Wild Ass Guess at the ready to defend anything uber liberal..

ever post in the football forum?

W*GS
04-29-2012, 08:21 PM
lonestar, Official Bukkake Boy of the GOP.

lonestar
04-29-2012, 08:24 PM
lonestar, Official Bukkake Boy of the GOP.

better than..

Wild Ass Guess at the ready to defend anything uber liberal..

Rohirrim
04-30-2012, 12:57 PM
"As far as my personal role and what other folks would do, I just recommend that everybody take a look at people's previous statements in terms of whether they thought it was appropriate to go into Pakistan and take out bin Laden," Obama said. "I assume that people meant what they said when they said it. That's been at least my practice. I said we would go after bin Laden if we had a clear shot at him. And I did. If there are others who have said one thing and now suggest they would do something else, then I would go ahead and let them explain it." President Obama

TonyR
04-30-2012, 01:08 PM
“Don’t worry about keeping things calm with Pakistan. Worry about getting out,” - Barack Obama, insisting on an escape route for the Seal Team Six to get out of the country in their Osama bin Laden raid.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/29/how-obama-got-bin-laden-a-detailed-account-from-showdown-by-david-corn.html

TonyR
04-30-2012, 01:12 PM
Dude is a complete trainwreck...

You used to be one of the more rational conservative voices around here. I've noticed some fairly large cracks in the foundation lately. Is this just sour grapes at the realization of how completely Obama is running circles around the GOP? For anyone who was awake during 8 years of Bush/Cheney to be referring to the current admin as a "complete trainwreck", particularly considering the circumstances, is a bit out of touch.

Rohirrim
04-30-2012, 01:19 PM
You used to be one of the more rational conservative voices around here. I've noticed some fairly large cracks in the foundation lately. Is this just sour grapes at the realization of how completely Obama is running circles around the GOP? For anyone who was awake during 8 years of Bush/Cheney to be referring to the current admin as a "complete trainwreck", particularly considering the circumstances, is a bit out of touch.

Romney is the worst flip-flopper I have ever seen, but don't expect these guys to admit it. Once you're on the extremist Right team, you're on the team. Like they say, the Right Wingers don't fall in love, they fall in line.

TonyR
04-30-2012, 01:26 PM
Romney is the worst flip-flopper I have ever seen, but don't expect these guys to admit it. Once you're on the extremist Right team, you're on the team. Like they say, the Right Wingers don't fall in love, they fall in line.

These guys are acting upset about a political ad. As if there haven't been a lot of disgusting and dishonest attacks on Obama, and as if there won't be a lot more leading up to the election. Good grief.

Rigs11
04-30-2012, 01:40 PM
Mittens is always saying how Obama is not keeping us safe, that Russia is our enemy. Obama has every right to take credit for ordering this. The fact is that Obama got Osama. the rightards are just sad that they can't take any credit for this.

ghwk
04-30-2012, 01:58 PM
http://cowboybyte.com/7051/awful-new-obama-ad-suggests-romney-wouldnt-have-ordered-bin-laden-raid/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BD75KOoNR9k

LOL, Bonerstar is butthurt!

cutthemdown
04-30-2012, 06:26 PM
You used to be one of the more rational conservative voices around here. I've noticed some fairly large cracks in the foundation lately. Is this just sour grapes at the realization of how completely Obama is running circles around the GOP? For anyone who was awake during 8 years of Bush/Cheney to be referring to the current admin as a "complete trainwreck", particularly considering the circumstances, is a bit out of touch.

He kept the hunt on for terrorists. Thats it. Everything else a joke. Supreme court is going to kill his mandate, which is what pays for his healthcare. He's super soft on illegal immigration and that pisses me off. I don't think the stimulus went enough to infrastructure like he promised. I hate how he throws gas on every racial story that hits the national news. I don't like how he is blaming rich people for the economy. Just so many things not to like.

He got Bin Laden. I will give him credit for that. Its the reason he has to trumpet it right now.

peacepipe
04-30-2012, 06:31 PM
He kept the hunt on for terrorists. Thats it. Everything else a joke. Supreme court is going to kill his mandate, which is what pays for his healthcare. He's super soft on illegal immigration and that pisses me off. I don't think the stimulus went enough to infrastructure like he promised. I hate how he throws gas on every racial story that hits the national news. I don't like how he is blaming rich people for the economy. Just so many things not to like.

He got Bin Laden. I will give him credit for that. Its the reason he has to trumpet it right now.get your damn facts straight.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/obamas-record-high-deportations-draw-hispanic-scorn/

Since 2009, the annual average number of deportations has approached 400,000, according to the Department of Homeland Security. That’s double the annual average during President George W. Bush’s first term and 30 percent higher than the average when he left office.

Meanwhile, the flow of illegal immigrants into the United States has hit a decade low because of the down economy and stepped-up enforcement efforts.

cutthemdown
04-30-2012, 06:43 PM
The flow is down because he killed the economy. The deportation are up because they are busting so many for crimes. Thats what gets them deported. Under bush more of them had jobs.

lonestar
04-30-2012, 07:09 PM
get your damn facts straight.


http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/obamas-record-high-deportations-draw-hispanic-scorn/

WOW deportations are up but the illegals coming in are almost double what they used to be..

and your 400k is a spit in the upwards of ten million that are already here..

BTW believing in ABC news blogs/politics well that is where I get all my facts.. NOT..

lonestar
04-30-2012, 07:11 PM
The flow is down because he killed the economy. The deportation are up because they are busting so many for crimes. Thats what gets them deported. Under bush more of them had jobs.

Not where I live on the border.. big time up..
fortunately most of them are going to places up "norte"

cutthemdown
04-30-2012, 08:48 PM
Not where I live on the border.. big time up..
fortunately most of them are going to places up "norte"

The fact so many go back to Mexico is more proof they don't make good citizens. We want people that really want to be Americans.

Gotta say I am against the repubs on most of the dream act. I don't see a problem with letting kids brought to America, that finished college, becoming citizens. Make them pass the citizenship test and swear them in. This isn't about racism. This is about wanting people who will be proud to put down the Mexican flag, turn off the Spanish language programming, and watch some nudity on Game Of Thrones like a good American. :)

Seriously though we should welcome people who want to be college graduates and call themselves American. But you have to learn the language and you have to swear your allegiance to America. That's important to all of us right? That these Mexicans aren't just hear to make money, so they can eventually return to Mexico. That isn't the American dream, yet it is the plan of many illegals here working.

cutthemdown
04-30-2012, 08:52 PM
I think all Americans should take pride in the fact people want to come join us. Let's just make sure we find the ones that will make great Americans. I feel there are is a big world out there and letting Mexicans flood the market isn't fair. Everyone should get the same chances to come to American and become a citizen. We need to come up with a better way of doing it then letting Mexicans sneak across the border.

lonestar
04-30-2012, 09:49 PM
I think all Americans should take pride in the fact people want to come join us. Let's just make sure we find the ones that will make great Americans. I feel there are is a big world out there and letting Mexicans flood the market isn't fair. Everyone should get the same chances to come to American and become a citizen. We need to come up with a better way of doing it then letting Mexicans sneak across the border.

E verify is a great tool..

Along with INS raids of those businesses that import labor..

Hell we have "talent scouts" in downtown El Paso that are hooking up plants in other states with illegals from across the border..

HAve busses that come in and pick them up and take them to packing plants and other food processing plants in the other states..

El Guapo
05-01-2012, 03:47 AM
I'm on my cell, so I can't really delve into this, but the SEALS have been speaking up regarding obama using this for his own gain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137636/SEALs-slam-Obama-using-ammunition-bid-credit-bin-Laden-killing-election-campaign.html

TonyR
05-01-2012, 10:39 AM
The Five Stages Of GOP Reaction To Osama Bin Laden’s Death — And What’s Next

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/the-five-stages-of-gop-reaction-to-osama-bin-ladens-death----and-whats-next.php?ref=fpa

Rohirrim
05-01-2012, 12:02 PM
These guys are acting upset about a political ad. As if there haven't been a lot of disgusting and dishonest attacks on Obama, and as if there won't be a lot more leading up to the election. Good grief.

Fake outrage is also one of the political campaign cliches.

Rohirrim
05-01-2012, 12:04 PM
The flow is down because he killed the economy. The deportation are up because they are busting so many for crimes. Thats what gets them deported. Under bush more of them had jobs.

The economy was already a corpse, killed by Bush and his cronies, before Obama was inaugurated. Get your partisan head out of your ass.

Rohirrim
05-01-2012, 12:06 PM
I'm on my cell, so I can't really delve into this, but the SEALS have been speaking up regarding obama using this for his own gain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137636/SEALs-slam-Obama-using-ammunition-bid-credit-bin-Laden-killing-election-campaign.html

If Bush had been sober enough to do it, he would have been hanging banners from the White House.

The Republicans don't mention that their guy couldn't get the job done.

When Obama got bin Laden, the Republicans had that look on their face like Elway had when Tebow made a touchdown. :rofl:

lonestar
05-01-2012, 07:37 PM
The economy was already a corpse, killed by Bush and his cronies, before Obama was inaugurated. Get your partisan head out of your ass.

kettle calling the pot black?

lonestar
05-01-2012, 07:39 PM
I'm on my cell, so I can't really delve into this, but the SEALS have been speaking up regarding obama using this for his own gain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137636/SEALs-slam-Obama-using-ammunition-bid-credit-bin-Laden-killing-election-campaign.html

SEALs slam Obama for using them as 'ammunition' in bid to take credit for bin Laden killing during election campaign

By Toby Harnden

PUBLISHED: 18:35 EST, 30 April 2012 | UPDATED: 10:42 EST, 1 May 2012

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Serving and former US Navy SEALs have slammed President Barack Obama for taking the credit for killing Osama bin Laden and accused him of using Special Forces operators as ‘ammunition’ for his re-election campaign.

The SEALs spoke out to MailOnline after the Obama campaign released an ad entitled ‘One Chance’.

In it President Bill Clinton is featured saying that Mr Obama took ‘the harder and the more honourable path’ in ordering that bin Laden be killed. The words ‘Which path would Mitt Romney have taken?’ are then displayed.

Besides the ad, the White House is marking the first anniversary of the SEAL Team Six raid that killed bin Laden inside his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan with a series of briefings and an NBC interview in the Situation Room designed to highlight the ‘gutsy call’ made by the President.

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Taking credit: President Obama has used bin Laden's death as a campaign tool

Taking credit: President Obama has used bin Laden's death as a campaign tool

Mr Obama used a news conference today to trumpet his personal role and imply that his Republican opponent Mr Romney, who in 2008 expressed reservations about the wisdom of sending troops into Pakistan, would have let bin Laden live.

‘I said that I'd go after bin Laden if we had a clear shot at him, and I did,’ Mr Obama said. ‘If there are others who have said one thing and now suggest they'd do something else, then I'd go ahead and let them explain it.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137636/Osama-bin-Laden-death-SEALs-slam-Obama-using-ammunition-bid-credit.html#ixzz1tfz0anAm

L.A. BRONCOS FAN
05-02-2012, 01:13 PM
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Bob
05-02-2012, 01:45 PM
I am glad Obama made the call, good for him. But I think anyone here, including Jimmy Carter (aka LA) would have done the same thing. It might be about as stupid as congratulating a grown adult after they wipe their butt, a bit nonsensical.

lonestar
05-02-2012, 01:52 PM
I am glad Obama made the call, good for him. But I think anyone here, including Jimmy Carter (aka LA) would have done the same thing. It might be about as stupid as congratulating a grown adult after they wipe their butt, a bit nonsensical.

Yep carter would have done it but then his equipment would have crashed in the desert for lack of maintenance.. He would have gotten people killed because they were not trained for missions like this..

Whoops he did..

Biggest moron we have had in office since I've been old enough to vote..

Rohirrim
05-02-2012, 02:58 PM
Wonder what the Republicans would be doing now if the mission had been a failure?

Rohirrim
05-02-2012, 03:10 PM
Yep carter would have done it but then his equipment would have crashed in the desert for lack of maintenance.. He would have gotten people killed because they were not trained for missions like this..

Whoops he did..

Biggest moron we have had in office since I've been old enough to vote..

He should have used the Reagan method with the Ayatollah; Have McFarlane take him a cake and a Bible. Oh, and make a promise to give him some illegal arms, like TOW missiles, and maybe he'll hold the hostages until after you get elected, so Carter doesn't get any of the political credit. I'm sure the hostages didn't mind sitting around in Tehran a couple of extra months.

The Carter rescue failed because of a dust storm. Too bad Carter couldn't control the weather.

Garcia Bronco
05-02-2012, 03:31 PM
Romney would want OBL alive so OBL could be used as a boogeyman to scare the American people into surrendering their liberties.

Bush certainly used OBL when it suited his misadministration to do so.

'Course, lonestar was one of the obedient sheep so when Bush raised the spectre of OBL, lonestar appropriately **** himself.

Whether you want to admit it or not; the threat on Americans from terrorists is real. So which misadministration points are you refering to relating to OBL?

TonyR
05-04-2012, 10:48 AM
Can Obama be swift boated? That's the idea behind this attack ad from Veterans for a Strong America, which slams the president for taking too much credit for Osama bin Laden's death. The group's founder tells Mother Jones' Adam Weinstein that he's recruiting Navy SEALs to openly criticize Obama: "We're gonna be rolling some of those folks out soon.
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/05/week-dark-money-swift-boat-romney-conard?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Motherjones%2Fmojoblog+%28Mot herJones.com+%7C+MoJoBlog%29

^ I guess desperate times for the GOP call for desperate measures from the GOP. That's politics.