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That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:09 AM
I think they're more willing to go with Walton at C this year because it allows him and Manning to get a head start on the adjustment. Just the added experience with Manning will make up for any talent shortcomings compared to what they could get from the 3rd+.

55CrushEm
04-28-2012, 10:09 AM
If Ryan Harris beats out Franklin at RT....move Franklin inside, too, over Beadles.

Either way.....looks like Beadles will be out at LG......Blake or Franklin should beat him out.

crush17
04-28-2012, 10:10 AM
Req are you going for the meltdown award or what? Lol

UberBroncoMan
04-28-2012, 10:10 AM
I wake up...and find we pass on the massive mother ****er DT that the Steelers are smart enough to get in order to draft another ****ing Baylor Center.

Think I'm turning the TV off again.

Heyneck
04-28-2012, 10:10 AM
So... Crick in the 5th and Burfict in the 6th???

oubronco
04-28-2012, 10:11 AM
I wake up...and find we pass on the massive mother ****er DT that the Steelers are smart enough to get in order to draft another ****ing Baylor Center.

Think I'm turning the TV off again.

Yep kinda depressing

Heyneck
04-28-2012, 10:12 AM
If Ryan Harris beats out Franklin at RT....move Franklin inside, too, over Beadles.

Either way.....looks like Beadles will be out at LG......Blake or Franklin should beat him out.

Ryan Harris is not going to beat anyone out. He is a walking injury waiting to happen. We can't depend on Harris. I thought we all knew this by now. The dude has chronic back problems.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:12 AM
Lol omg. The bengal sare raping.

A draft that the fans will think is great is one full of players that had a lot of media hype. This could be as much an indication of failure by the Bengals staff to look beyond the well known as it is them actually picking good players.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:13 AM
be sweet if we could nab Greg Childs. 6-3 219 lb WR from the SEC with 4.35 speed who would be a top 2 round pick if not hurt this past year.

Dedhed
04-28-2012, 10:13 AM
So... Crick in the 5th and Burfict in the 6th???
Crick doesn't play for ASU, doubt they scouted him.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:13 AM
So... Crick in the 5th and Burfict in the 6th???

thwack

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:14 AM
Ryan Harris is not going to beat anyone out. He is a walking injury waiting to happen. We can't depend on Harris. I thought we all knew this by now. The dude has chronic back problems.

If Harris wins but then gets hurt, we're back to where we would've been anyways. I like the idea of Franklin inside more than outside so even if it doesn't last all season, it'll be better than the suck our C & LG are contributing right now.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:14 AM
How many ASU players left?

Hulamau
04-28-2012, 10:14 AM
Looks like we got pretty good value with these two picks. Bolden probably goes on day one sans the knee, so there's high risk/high reward there. Blake gives us OL depth, and maybe he can push Walton. I'd like a WR in the 5th if there is a decent one still available. We could use a coverage linebacker, too, but the pickings are slim there at this point. I really wish we had gotten David or Spence instead of Osweiler.

Theres no doubt Spence or David provide better help over the next two years, but Elway seems really high on Osweiler and there is no way he lasts to the 4th round and we really needed Hillman as bad or worse than Spence or David to provide that homerun out of the backfield for Manning this year as well!

One thing about Hillman too, the kid never missed a game as SDSU's featured back and TD machine in two years so he IS a very durable dude inspite of his size! He may indeed become a Sproles/Thurman Thomas kind of back for us that gets far more touches with far more impact and proving a solid durable player in this league, more so than we might imagine when thinking of him as only a chance of pace role.

I'll give Elway the benefit of the doubt on going for Osweiler.. the rest of the picks all make us a better team today with more depth as well where we needed it.

And we were never going to plug every hole this draft alone. One more year of a decent draft and FA period and we should be fully locked and loaded, top to bottom.. Elway said it was a three year rebuild when he took over and it seems we are ahead of schedule now.

oubronco
04-28-2012, 10:14 AM
Ta'amu has concerns with his knees and shoulder i'm glad we passed

Heyneck
04-28-2012, 10:15 AM
I wake up...and find we pass on the massive mother ****er DT that the Steelers are smart enough to get in order to draft another ****ing Baylor Center.

Think I'm turning the TV off again.

He does not fit our system. Fox and JDR know tackles. I am happy with Wolfe and the players we currently have on the DL. But would like Crick to push or add depth behind Ayers.

ward63
04-28-2012, 10:16 AM
What positions would help on special teams? We got some LB's last year that can play them if needed. A safety maybe?

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:17 AM
Ta'amu has concerns with his knees and shoulder i'm glad we passed

He's 348 f'ing lbs, of course he has knee problems. Sometimes a short term contributor is better than a long term bench monkey, though.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:17 AM
:pray: Please don't take Burfict!

oubronco
04-28-2012, 10:18 AM
What positions would help on special teams? We got some LB's last year that can play them if needed. A safety maybe?

Ronnel Lewis would be sweet

oubronco
04-28-2012, 10:18 AM
He's 348 f'ing lbs, of course he has knee problems. Sometimes a short term contributor is better than a long term bench monkey, though.

Bad knees means your on the bench

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:21 AM
LB,S,CB,WR,TE could help on special teams. as could another RB.

BroncoInferno
04-28-2012, 10:21 AM
Kiper has Terrell Manning, OLB from NC State as his top available guy. I'm not too familiar with him despite watching a lot of ACC games. Is he a good 4-3 fit? Can he cover? Maybe a good possibility at the top of the 5th?

BowlenBall
04-28-2012, 10:21 AM
Ronnel Lewis would be sweet

He would be a great pick in the 5th round, for sure.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:22 AM
Boykin to the Eagles.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:22 AM
Eagles get Boykin. That's a steal there.

DBroncos4life
04-28-2012, 10:23 AM
He does not fit our system. Fox and JDR know tackles. I am happy with Wolfe and the players we currently have on the DL. But would like Crick to push or add depth behind Ayers.

I think they will go Winn over Crick. I don't like that though.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 10:23 AM
Kiper has Terrell Manning, OLB from NC State as his top available guy. I'm not too familiar with him despite watching a lot of ACC games. Is he a good 4-3 fit? Can he cover? Maybe a good possibility at the top of the 5th?

Kipers watching Mayock on his ipad.Hilarious!
Kiper=IDIOT.

BowlenBall
04-28-2012, 10:23 AM
Eagles got a good one in Boykin

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:24 AM
Eagles get Boykin. That's a steal there.

LOL

For some reason that's who I thought we picked. I forgot ours was ASU. I was confused what happened.

Denver724
04-28-2012, 10:24 AM
I really like Tommy Street from Miami at this point. High upside. Not sure if he can pass EFX off-field evaluation.

baja
04-28-2012, 10:25 AM
:pray: Please don't take Burfict!

Dude it's the 5th round why not take a flier.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 10:26 AM
Dude it's the 6th round why not take a flier.

Cause hes a MORON.
The guy is as sharp as a bowling ball.
I doubt hes even drafted.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:27 AM
Dude it's the 5th round why not take a flier.

My kid is positive I'm watching the draft because someone might pick me. From the recent reports, you'd think Burfict and I have similar potential.

OBF1
04-28-2012, 10:27 AM
Theres no doubt Spence or David provide better help over the next two years, but Elway seems really high on Osweiler and there is no way he lasts to the 4th round and we really needed Hillman as bad or worse than Spence or David to provide that homerun out of the backfield for Manning this year as well!


I'll give Elway the benefit of the doubt on going for Osweiler.. the rest of the picks all make us a better team today with more depth as well where we needed it.
And we were never going to plug every hole this draft alone. One more year of a decent draft and FA period and we should be fully locked and loaded, top to bottom.. Elway said it was a three year rebuild when he took over and it seems we are ahead of schedule now.


Effff depth, We still have "Depth quality" players starting for us, We need impact, or true NFL grade starters... Lets use our "Starters" as depth.

Tombstone RJ
04-28-2012, 10:27 AM
Dude it's the 5th round why not take a flier.

no, hell no.

Heyneck
04-28-2012, 10:27 AM
I think they will go Winn over Crick. I don't like that though.

Wynn is not a bad choice at all... but yeah... like you, I prefer Crick.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:27 AM
Effff depth, We still have "Depth quality" players starting for us, We need impact, or true NFL grade starters... Lets use our "Starters" as depth.

Good point. We have the depth, we need the starters to put in front of them.

ward63
04-28-2012, 10:28 AM
LB,S,CB,WR,TE could help on special teams. as could another RB.

Terrell Davis and I agree with that :strong:

TDmvp
04-28-2012, 10:28 AM
My kid is positive I'm watching the draft because someone might pick me. From the recent reports, you'd think Burfict and I have similar potential.


I wish they would have taken you over a QB in the 2nd.
At least then it would have been something.

oubronco
04-28-2012, 10:29 AM
Crick is gone

BroncoInferno
04-28-2012, 10:29 AM
Jared Crick to Houston.

Heyneck
04-28-2012, 10:30 AM
****!!! Houston with our pick takes Crick!!!

socalorado
04-28-2012, 10:30 AM
Jared Crick to Houston.

DAMMIT

Wynn please.

barryr
04-28-2012, 10:31 AM
I would have been ok with taking a chance on Burfict late in the draft, but that was before his failed drug test was known. I see no reason to bother with the bozo.

BroncoInferno
04-28-2012, 10:31 AM
DAMMIT

Wynn please.

I wasn't real high on Crick anyway. Way too small @ 279 to play DT.

barryr
04-28-2012, 10:32 AM
Crick is a 3-4 DE, so he really wouldn't fit the Bronco defense anyway.

crush17
04-28-2012, 10:32 AM
Eagles have had a fantastic draft.

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:32 AM
Req are you going for the meltdown award or what? Lol

Dude, I had that locked up after Wolfe was taken.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:32 AM
Terrell Davis and I agree with that :strong:

Chris Polk wouldn't be a bad idea, similar size to TD.

Heyneck
04-28-2012, 10:33 AM
I wasn't real high on Crick anyway. Way too small @ 279 to play DT.

He would have been a DE in our system. Position we need depth and insurance over Ayers and Doom.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:33 AM
Chris Polk wouldn't be a bad idea, similar size to TD.

Polk? Is he still out there? Wasn't that a mentioned possibility with the 2nd that Osweiler became?

LOL, I love how off some predictions are around the draft.

oubronco
04-28-2012, 10:33 AM
He would have been a DE in our system. Position we need depth and insurance over Ayers and Doom.

And he's more stout against the run

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:34 AM
A draft that the fans will think is great is one full of players that had a lot of media hype. This could be as much an indication of failure by the Bengals staff to look beyond the well known as it is them actually picking good players.

Four Pro-Bowlers in 2010 and 2011. They have gotten value picks and steals all over the board. It isn't media hype -- those are all great picks for their squad. Bengals are a good team and guess what -- they have three scouts. We got about 143 ****brains in ours and we end up blowing this draft pretty bad.

DBroncos4life
04-28-2012, 10:34 AM
I wasn't real high on Crick anyway. Way too small @ 279 to play DT.

He was only that small because he couldn't lift. I'm glad he gets to work with one of the best 3-4 coaches though. Maybe he will prove people wrong.

BroncoInferno
04-28-2012, 10:34 AM
He would have been a DE in our system. Position we need depth and insurance over Ayers and Doom.

Can he rush from the edge, though? I don't see much upside from him as a 4-3 DE.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:34 AM
Kubes takes a flyer on Crick. ;D

CEH
04-28-2012, 10:35 AM
Polk? Is he still out there? Wasn't that a mentioned possibility with the 2nd that Osweiler became?

LOL, I love how off some predictions are around the draft.

Degenertive knee or shoulder. Not sure but has alot of milegae as well

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:35 AM
Four Pro-Bowlers in 2010 and 2011. They have gotten value picks and steals all over the board. It isn't media hype -- those are all great picks for their squad. Bengals are a good team and guess what -- they have three scouts. We got about 143 ****brains in ours and we end up blowing this draft pretty bad.

Valid points. Marvin Lewis definitely seems like he's turned it around since his power play a few years ago. I was just throwing out that we could be slightly biased to the names we recognize most.

Hulamau
04-28-2012, 10:36 AM
He does not fit our system. Fox and JDR know tackles. I am happy with Wolfe and the players we currently have on the DL. But would like Crick to push or add depth behind Ayers.

Absolutely, Ta'amu is a wasted pick for a 4-3 NT... too big and slow and no pass rush to speak of. Uber do your homework on these guys and avoid getting snowed and so bent out of shape over a mirage by the glamour numbers of his size and weight etc ... and look at what he is.

He'll be a good 3-4 NT and fits the Steelers, but is a lot less valuable for us... Glad we passed as did every other 4-3 team.

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:36 AM
Chris Polk, Alphonso Dennard, Billy Winn (value here), Zebrie Sanders, James Brown, Nigel Bradham, Chase Minnifield, Marvin Jones, Da'quan Menzie, George Iloka, Leonard Johnson, Greg Childs. Anyone of those guys, maybe?

Dwight Jones, Cyrus Gray?

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:36 AM
Polk? Is he still out there? Wasn't that a mentioned possibility with the 2nd that Osweiler became?

LOL, I love how off some predictions are around the draft.

i gotta say though, off the field issues have dropped players less than medical ones. Miller from a potential low first to top 4th, Crick from low first, to high 2nd to low 4th, the talent as long as it's healthy seems to go high more than if they have medical issues.

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:37 AM
Absolutely, Ta'amu is a wasted pick for a 4-3 NT... too big and slow and no pass rush to speak of. Uber do your homework on these guys and avoid getting snowed and so bent out of shape over a mirage by the glamour numbers of his size and weight etc ... and look at what he is.

He'll be a good 3-4 NT and fits the Steelers, but is a lot less valuable for us... Glad we passed as did every other 4-3 team.

Not true at all about Ta'amu. That dude is quick and graceful for a guy his size. Better fit for them? Yes. Could have helped us? Yes.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:38 AM
Is this the Raiders' second pick? Ha!

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:38 AM
Chris Polk, Alphonso Dennard, Billy Winn (value here), Zebrie Sanders, James Brown, Nigel Bradham, Chase Minnifield, Marvin Jones, Da'quan Menzie, George Iloka, Leonard Johnson, Greg Childs. Anyone of those guys, maybe?

Dwight Jones, Cyrus Gray?

Bradham went to Buffalo at #105


Childs i want badly. big, tall, physical and fast. run and jump guy who can also play special teams.

Heyneck
04-28-2012, 10:38 AM
Can he rush from the edge, though? I don't see much upside from him as a 4-3 DE.

If he can stay healthy and bulk up 10-15 muscle pounds... it think he could be an above average RDE. I think he could have been in the 5-8 sacks a year guy. Decent production from a 4th rounder.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
04-28-2012, 10:38 AM
WR looks really deep for a 5th round option:

Marvin Jones
Tommy Streeter
Marvin McNutt
Jeff Fuller
Rishard Matthews
Juron Criner
Dwight Jones
Danny Coale

DBroncos4life
04-28-2012, 10:39 AM
I've had bad trips to the bar before but, nothing like Dennard. Hilarious!

socalorado
04-28-2012, 10:39 AM
Fugk Polk. Waste of a pick. He has huge innjury concerns, and his weight is a major concern as well. The guy has fallen off of boards for a reason.
Mark Tyler USC or Vick Ballard MISS ST would be better depth options now.

Heyneck
04-28-2012, 10:40 AM
So... what's the over/under of EFX blowing the 5th on Burfict (would love him in the 6th)?

BowlenBall
04-28-2012, 10:40 AM
Oooooh.... Oakland just took Miles Burris, LB, San Diego State.

That's a gut-punch for me, one of my favorite players in this draft.

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:40 AM
Bradham went to Buffalo at #105


Childs i want badly. big, tall, physical and fast. run and jump guy who can also play special teams.

NOOOoOoOoOOOooNonOno
Nigel I love yoU!!!!

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 10:40 AM
WR looks really deep for a 5th round option:

Marvin Jones
Tommy Streeter
Marvin McNutt
Jeff Fuller
Rishard Matthews
Juron Criner
Dwight Jones
Danny Coale

Streeter would be a nice project. Could contribute early as a RZ threat on fade and fade stops with his size. Needs a ton of work catching the ball properly, but has upside to work with.

Heyneck
04-28-2012, 10:41 AM
Would still like to pick Chis Rainey... (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=RnC&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&sa=X&ei=miucT4azK8e4twfMjPmnBA&ved=0CCYQvwUoAQ&q=chris+rainey&spell=1)

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:41 AM
I'm still blown away by Bolden benching 225, 24 times. Damn!

DBroncos4life
04-28-2012, 10:41 AM
If he can stay healthy and bulk up 10-15 muscle pounds... it think he could be an above average RDE. I think he could have been in the 5-8 sacks a year guy. Decent production from a 4th rounder.

Crick always played at 300 pounds. I'm not sure he dropped the weight to fit a 3-4 system or because he couldn't lift with the torn peck.

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 10:41 AM
NOOOoOoOoOOOooNonOno
Nigel I love yoU!!!!

Haha. No FSU guys for you, Req.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:41 AM
Fugk Polk. Waste of a pick. He has huge innjury concerns, and his weight is a major concern as well. The guy has fallen off of boards for a reason.
Mark Tyler USC or Vick Ballard MISS ST would be better depth options now.

that mother****er can't even spell the school he went to. "University Of Sexual Ballers."
dumb mother managed to get suspended at USC, at USC! you get paid to play and behavior is excused and he still got suspended!
DO NOT WANT! Ballard is more of a FB type though.

barryr
04-28-2012, 10:42 AM
WR looks really deep for a 5th round option:

Marvin Jones
Tommy Streeter
Marvin McNutt
Jeff Fuller
Rishard Matthews
Juron Criner
Dwight Jones
Danny Coale

Absolutely and the Broncos could use another. DT and Decker will injury problems already in their careers, and the rest at WR are nothing special.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:42 AM
Oooooh.... Oakland just took Miles Burris, LB, San Diego State.

That's a gut-punch for me, one of my favorite players in this draft.

Yeah. I liked him too. Sucks that he's a Raider.

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:42 AM
Haha. No FSU guys for you, Req.

I will make you ban me.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 10:42 AM
that mother****er can't even spell the school he went to. "University Of Sexual Ballers."
dumb mother managed to get suspended at USC, at USC! you get paid to play and behavior is excused and he still got suspended!
DO NOT WANT! Ballard is more of a FB type though.

Tyler is dumb as rocks. But he can run the ball where you point.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:43 AM
NOOOoOoOoOOOooNonOno
Nigel I love yoU!!!!
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/12/4/128728647676003443.jpg

ward63
04-28-2012, 10:43 AM
WR please! Another weapon and I would love the competition at the position from DT and Decker to Dell and the draft pick.

barryr
04-28-2012, 10:44 AM
Tyler is dumb as rocks. But he can run the ball where you point.

Sounds like a Peyton Hillis clone.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 10:44 AM
Yeah. I liked him too. Sucks that he's a Raider.

Yeah, hes good. You know hes NOT gay right?
Not that it matters or anything...

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 10:44 AM
I will make you ban me.

lol. I was surprised Bradham lasted that long. Spence is still better tho. :)

BroncoInferno
04-28-2012, 10:44 AM
Marvin Jones might be a good pick. Not a lot of speed, but could be a dependable possession guy.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:45 AM
Tyler is dumb as rocks. But he can run the ball where you point.

you really think that's gonna jive with a Manning led offense? if nothing else you have to be smarter than a Raiders player.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 10:46 AM
I'm still blown away by Bolden benching 225, 24 times. Damn!

That's Eddie Royal territory. HOF!

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:46 AM
lol. I was surprised Bradham lasted that long. Spence is still better tho. :)

Bradham would bone Spence's mom and make her pay the dinner bill.

BroncoBuff
04-28-2012, 10:46 AM
Bolden played just 4 games in 2009, so he's missed two of the last three seasons.

Seems kinda like a Shanahan draft ... a pre-Goodman Shanahan draft.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:48 AM
no if it was a Shanny draft he'd take a guy with a bone on bone knee issue or a deteriorating condition that forces retirement 2 years later.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:49 AM
Yeah, hes good. You know hes NOT gay right?
Not that it matters or anything...

Hmmm. You really seem to be preoccupied with the gay thing. You know what they say...

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 10:49 AM
Bradham would bone Spence's mom and make her pay the dinner bill.

lmao....and then he would realize he's sentenced to a life in Buffalo, while Spence is winning titles in Pittsburgh!

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:50 AM
lmao....and then he would realize he's sentenced to a life in Buffalo, while Spence is winning titles in Pittsburgh!

He is going to hate it in Buffalo.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:50 AM
I wonder how long after Janoris Jenkins gets his first NFL paycheck that he ****s up?

socalorado
04-28-2012, 10:51 AM
Hmmm. You really seem to be preoccupied with the gay thing. You know what they say...

Dont hate.
Just accept your life choices, and then embrace them.
In this case, you embracing other men.
J/K!
We will look back years from now on these threads and say
"WTF was goin on there?!?!?"Hilarious!

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:53 AM
Giants get Mosely. One of my favorite late OTs.

oubronco
04-28-2012, 10:53 AM
GB is having a very good Defensive draft

Bmore Manning
04-28-2012, 10:54 AM
Chapman is still around.. even Jean-Baptiste would be solid in the 6th..

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:54 AM
Don't even know either of those guys for the Packers. WOO! COME ON DENVER GRAB A DECENT DUDE HERE TO REPLACE BRANDON LLOYD.

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 10:54 AM
I'm going to get Roh a Burfict jersey if we draft him. :)

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 10:54 AM
Streeter

baja
04-28-2012, 10:55 AM
lmao....and then he would realize he's sentenced to a life in Buffalo, while Spence is winning titles in Pittsburgh!

if only you could find a bigger picture of #87

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:55 AM
Kelemete and Markelle Martin still on the board.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:55 AM
****, there goes Childs to the Vikings.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 10:56 AM
I'm going to get Roh a Burfict jersey if we draft him. :)

I'll burn it. :~ohyah!:

boppool
04-28-2012, 10:56 AM
I'm going to get Roh a Burfict jersey if we draft him. :)

He may not last long enough to wear his jersey...

Denver724
04-28-2012, 10:56 AM
There goes Childs.

barryr
04-28-2012, 10:56 AM
Packers take DT Daniels, but at 6'0, 290lbs. wouldn't seem to fit in a 3-4 defense. Maybe they think he'll be a good ST's player or something.

DBroncos4life
04-28-2012, 10:57 AM
Don't even know either of those guys for the Packers. WOO! COME ON DENVER GRAB A DECENT DUDE HERE TO REPLACE BRANDON LLOYD.

What WR's are left? I know Nutt is out there that is about all I know.

RaiderH8r
04-28-2012, 10:57 AM
Bolden played just 4 games in 2009, so he's missed two of the last three seasons.

Seems kinda like a Shanahan draft ... a pre-Goodman Shanahan draft.

The Greek wanted him to round out his three headed beast, Knogo, Demaryius, and Omar. They will keep the Greek busy.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:57 AM
so i guess the Cowboys feel their secondary is kinda bad. that's what, 2 CB's and a LB in this draft so far.

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 10:57 AM
if only you could find a bigger picture of #87

If you're not nice, I'm going to put Nixon in my sig, too!

:)

socalorado
04-28-2012, 10:58 AM
Jean-Baptiste. Forgot about him. Solid DT.

HooptyHoops
04-28-2012, 10:58 AM
Here we go....what's it going to be?

BroncoBuff
04-28-2012, 10:58 AM
Chris Polk, Alphonso Dennard, Zebrie Sanders, James Brown, Nigel Bradham, Chase Minnifield, Marvin Jones, Da'quan Menzie, George Iloka, Leonard Johnson, Greg Childs. Anyone of those guys, maybe?

I'd much rather have drafted Zebrie Sanders than Blake. Sanders is a pure OT, meaning Franklin could move to guard. Seems to me Blake means Franklin's not moving.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 10:58 AM
Champman to the Colts, dammit!

Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:58 AM
Haha! Who is Denver gonna scrape from the barrel here? :)

Bmore Manning
04-28-2012, 10:58 AM
I ****ing knew it..

oubronco
04-28-2012, 10:58 AM
Here We Go

http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0168e6da34b3970c-450wi

HooptyHoops
04-28-2012, 10:59 AM
Crap, I wanted Chapman!!

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 10:59 AM
Draft Streeter please..come on.

UberBroncoMan
04-28-2012, 10:59 AM
I'd much rather have drafted Zebrie Sanders than Blake. Sanders is a pure OT, meaning Franklin could move to guard. Seems to me Blake means Franklin's not moving.

I don't think Sanders is either.

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Requiem
04-28-2012, 10:59 AM
Draft Streeter please..come on.

No soup for you!

SoDak Bronco
04-28-2012, 10:59 AM
Marvin Jones here?

RaiderH8r
04-28-2012, 10:59 AM
Burflict

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 10:59 AM
Burfict for Roh.

doonwise
04-28-2012, 11:00 AM
secondary pick?

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 11:00 AM
If you're not nice, I'm going to put Nixon in my sig, too!

:)

And I'll go back to the JFK avatar. :wave:

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:00 AM
Gettis, Winn, Baptiste

baja
04-28-2012, 11:00 AM
If you're not nice, I'm going to put Nixon in my sig, too!

:)

What sport does he play, Lier's poker?

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 11:01 AM
Markelle Martin. Come on, Elway

mhgaffney
04-28-2012, 11:01 AM
And I'll go back to the JFK avatar. :wave:

for once, ROH is funny.

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:01 AM
Here We Go

http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef0168e6da34b3970c-450wi

Requiem
04-28-2012, 11:02 AM
Hey Malik Jackson ain't too bad.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:02 AM
YYYYEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS Malik Jackson. huge pick up. great DE prospect.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 11:02 AM
Malik Jackson!!!!! Whoop de do! BABY!

Tombstone RJ
04-28-2012, 11:02 AM
Malik Jackson, DE

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 11:02 AM
for once, ROH is funny.

Hey gaff..what do you think of that Ripstein kid Denver picked?

Denver724
04-28-2012, 11:02 AM
Great pick!

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:02 AM
Anyone got any info on Jackson?

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:03 AM
Former Trojan! Good PICK!

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-28-2012, 11:03 AM
Another solid pick. This middle of the draft is lookin dam good.

ward63
04-28-2012, 11:03 AM
Anyone got any info on Jackson?

I was thinking the same thing

McDman
04-28-2012, 11:03 AM
Wooooo! I went to UT and am a big fan of this guy.

Great leader. Great guy. Very motvated.

mhgaffney
04-28-2012, 11:03 AM
Another penetrating DT.

Great!

ludo21
04-28-2012, 11:04 AM
good job efx

barryr
04-28-2012, 11:04 AM
Jackson will battle Beal for a backup DE spot.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:04 AM
6-5 284 lbs, 4.91 speed, he's a Coples type. can play DE & DT in certain situations. he's athletic as hell and i love this pick. played at USC and Tennessee.

BowlenBall
04-28-2012, 11:04 AM
Malik Jackson! Yes!

Mediator12 took him in the mock draft this year (always a good sign), and I LOVED him as a mid-round defensive lineman.

Great, great pick!

eddie mac
04-28-2012, 11:04 AM
Meh, haven't seen him play but he got no love on the draftboards, PFW have a UDFA grade on him.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:04 AM
Anyone got any info on Jackson?
Big time athleticism. Can play inside or outside. Fast, playmaker.

Dukes
04-28-2012, 11:04 AM
Nice competition for Ayers

McDman
04-28-2012, 11:04 AM
Anyone got any info on Jackson?

He's a really good kid. He is the only one who was a leader in the locker room.

If he can stick around we are going to really like him.

mhgaffney
04-28-2012, 11:05 AM
Hey gaff..what do you think of that Ripstein kid Denver picked?

I'm not savvy enough on the prospects to have an opinion on that.

I do trust in Elway, however.

Baba Booey
04-28-2012, 11:05 AM
Looks like a guy that can play inside on 3rd downs a la Ayers.

Good stuff.

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:05 AM
Awesome sounds like we might have a good player

Gort
04-28-2012, 11:06 AM
1st - no pick
2nd - DT, QB
3rd - RB
4th - CB, OL
5th - DE
6th - 1 pick
7th - no pick

ummm... i'm underwhelmed.

it'll be a LB or WR in round 6, but how many 6th rounders ever make the team anyway.

all that's left is the UDFA crowd. i hope EFX can find something there.

SoDak Bronco
04-28-2012, 11:06 AM
Espn sucks, why do they even cover the draft

ward63
04-28-2012, 11:06 AM
From Bleacher Report, so take it as you will..."Malik Jackson: Comparing NFL Draft Pick to Raheem Brock"

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:06 AM
50 more picks to go to wrap up our draft

McDman
04-28-2012, 11:06 AM
Really happy about that pick. The guy is going to work his ass off.

DBroncos4life
04-28-2012, 11:07 AM
Anyone got any info on Jackson?

High motor, strong at the point of attack.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 11:07 AM
1st - no pick
2nd - DT, QB
3rd - RB
4th - CB, OL
5th - DE
6th - 1 pick
7th - no pick

ummm... i'm underwhelmed.

Over the positions picked or number of picks?

Seems like they're hitting all the right spots.

SonOfLe-loLang
04-28-2012, 11:07 AM
1st - no pick
2nd - DT, QB
3rd - RB
4th - CB, OL
5th - DE
6th - 1 pick
7th - no pick

ummm... i'm underwhelmed.

There's a shock

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 11:07 AM
Really happy about that pick. The guy is going to work his ass off.

Good, an Engelberger (or whatever the F his name was) is what this D was missing.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:08 AM
i'm happy as hell with this draft now. we have addressed DT,DE,RB,QB,OG & CB.
all have starter potential. wish we could have gotten Greg Childs but i'm sure we can draft a WR with our last pick in the 6th.

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 11:08 AM
Malik Jackson!!!!! Whoop de do! BABY!

Haha...former USC guy, I knew you would like that. Seems he like he would be good at strongside DE or maybe DT, since he has beefed up. Good pick I think.

DBroncos4life
04-28-2012, 11:09 AM
Has Akiem Hicks been picked yet? Saints nevermind.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 11:10 AM
Haha...former USC guy, I knew you would like that. Seems he like he would be good at strongside DE or maybe DT, since he has beefed up. Good pick I think.

Move Ayers inside next to Wolfe, and put Jackson opposite Doom. Let Von find his gap. :charge:

Drek
04-28-2012, 11:10 AM
NFL Draft Scout has a comment from his pro day about having put on another 6 pounds from his combine weight (284). If that is true he's got himself up to 290. Interesting.

Should be a worthwhile rotational DE/DT type. Hopefully this means we're going to stop exposing Doom to fatigue and beatings on running downs.

Requiem
04-28-2012, 11:10 AM
Has Akiem Hicks been picked yet?

New Orleans Hurricanes took him.

Gort
04-28-2012, 11:10 AM
Over the positions picked or number of picks?

Seems like they're hitting all the right spots.

over the strategy and position of the picks. until they put on the pads in July we don't really know what any of them will become, but it just seems to me that the strategy was off this whole draft. i don't know if losing out on 1 guy early caused a domino effect, but i think we needed 2 impact players on defense and i think we maybe only got 1. i would have spent my 1st and 2nd round picks there.

barryr
04-28-2012, 11:11 AM
From Bleacher Report, so take it as you will..."Malik Jackson: Comparing NFL Draft Pick to Raheem Brock"

Probably true, Jackson isn't really quick enough to play DE or big enough to play DT either, but Brock had a long career playing both and mostly as a backup, though I think he did start some for the Colts.

Mat'hir Uth Gan
04-28-2012, 11:12 AM
Jackson was a good pick. I thought he would go in the 4th, so minor steal to me. Now, just to figure out where to play him....

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:14 AM
Looks like they wanted Players who could play all over the D-line

ward63
04-28-2012, 11:14 AM
Is half of the team from Arizona State and Tennessee? Joking...

doonwise
04-28-2012, 11:14 AM
High motor, strong at the point of attack.

He's not strong at the point of attack when lined up as a DT. This is because he's undersized as a DT, but should be solid as a depth DE. Great intangibles.

Hulamau
04-28-2012, 11:14 AM
1st - no pick
2nd - DT, QB
3rd - RB
4th - CB, OL
5th - DE
6th - 1 pick
7th - no pick

ummm... i'm underwhelmed.

it'll be a LB or WR in round 6, but how many 6th rounders ever make the team anyway.

all that's left is the UDFA crowd. i hope EFX can find something there.

What did you expect with the 25 pick ... a bevy of top ten talent?!?? this is the 'Tebow Effect' draft and EFX is trying to make the best of a not ideal scenario.

Gort
04-28-2012, 11:14 AM
There's a shock

by the picks or by me being underwhelmed? here's what i would have targeted if i were in the FO. at least this is what i would have gone into the draft trying to target...

1st - DT or LB
2nd - LB or DT
3rd - WR
4th - OL, RB
5th - CB
6th - best athlete available

DBroncos4life
04-28-2012, 11:15 AM
So do we want Tommy Streeter next?

baja
04-28-2012, 11:16 AM
over the strategy and position of the picks. until they put on the pads in July we don't really know what any of them will become, but it just seems to me that the strategy was off this whole draft. i don't know if losing out on 1 guy early caused a domino effect, but i think we needed 2 impact players on defense and i think we maybe only got 1. i would have spent my 1st and 2nd round picks there.

It does seem like something put them off their plan and they spent the entire draft trying to get their guys but in adjusted spots. Draft did not flow for us.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 11:16 AM
Tahir Whitehead to the Lions. He was on my UDFA list.

Gort
04-28-2012, 11:16 AM
What did you expect with the 25 pick ... a bevy of top ten talent?!??

i'm just not sure of the logic of spending 2 of your top 3 picks on QB and RB when we all know that the D has holes. the DT only fills the hole left by Bunkley.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 11:17 AM
over the strategy and position of the picks. until they put on the pads in July we don't really know what any of them will become, but it just seems to me that the strategy was off this whole draft. i don't know if losing out on 1 guy early caused a domino effect, but i think we needed 2 impact players on defense and i think we maybe only got 1. i would have spent my 1st and 2nd round picks there.

It kinda seems like they went for quantity of contributors over a few boom picks followed by boom/bust candidates as we've seen in the past. They're plugging holes but, in hindsight, there's a few of the 1st rounders that I'd have traded a few of these players to move up for.

I agree I'm kinda underwhelmed (though undereducated on the prospects, as well) but I just didn't understand your comment saying you were based off the positions picked. As someone else said earlier, at least they're addressing needs.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 11:18 AM
It does seem like something through them off and they spent the entire draft trying to get their guys but in adjusted spots. Draft did not flow for us.

The only guy I really question is Osweiler. Even he could work out. Frankly, I'm happy to go with Elway's judgment when it comes to assessing QBs.

ward63
04-28-2012, 11:18 AM
Brandon Marshall got drafted again...kidding, but not kidding

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:19 AM
i'm just not sure of the logic of spending 2 of your top 3 picks on QB and RB when we all know that the D has holes. the DT only fills the hole left by Bunkley.

Maybe two HCs like Fox and Del Rio who have a history of taking middle tier draft picks and making them studs is why they didnt draft the way you wanted them to.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:19 AM
be sweet if we could snag Cam Johnson next and cap off the DL overhaul. wouldn't be mad about Streeter either though.

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:20 AM
Josh Norman to Carolina

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 11:23 AM
be sweet if we could snag Cam Johnson next and cap off the DL overhaul. wouldn't be mad about Streeter either though.

We're about full up on the number of rookies we want on a line at one time. With the inexperienced players we have from last year that might be having to step up, we are at the point of having almost no proven talent. Any more DL and we're gonna be stashing one or cutting them.

Hulamau
04-28-2012, 11:23 AM
by the picks or by me being underwhelmed? here's what i would have targeted if i were in the FO. at least this is what i would have gone into the draft trying to target...

1st - DT or LB
2nd - LB or DT
3rd - WR
4th - OL, RB
5th - CB
6th - best athlete available

No doubt we are all blessed that you are not making the picks (just rubbing it in a bit :-)

But with the exception of trading out of the first to get the extra pick to move up for Hillman and taking Osweiler in place of a LB at 57, they pretty much followed your formula.

Elway has earned the right to make that call on Osweiler, I would have gone LB, DT or RB at 57 most likely, but I trust Elway's instincts and due diligence when it comes to QBs and he obviously saw enough in Brock to go for him as a long term answer and short term insurance at the most valuable position on the team.

This is the same guy who landed us Peyton Manning by the way ...

Gort
04-28-2012, 11:23 AM
Maybe two HCs like Fox and Del Rio who have a history of taking middle tier draft picks and making them studs is why they didnt draft the way you wanted them to.

isn't there an axiom that by the time guys get to the pros, you can't really teach them the game anymore. all of the coaches time is spent on preparation for the season. isn't this the argument for why the NFL doesn't teach players how to tackle and assumes they already know how (e.g. not leading with the helmet)? how does a coach take a mid-tier talent and turn him into a stud? i don't see it. if you get a defensive player in a later round, he's just fodder for the depth chart. unless he special, he's never going to start. we should have targeted starters on defense in the first 2 rounds and maybe even the first 3. that's what i would have done. but i'm not a draft nerd so what do i know?

Requiem
04-28-2012, 11:23 AM
Damn, Bills got Zebrie Sanders. FSU North baby!

baja
04-28-2012, 11:24 AM
The only guy I really question is Osweiler. Even he could work out. Frankly, I'm happy to go with Elway's judgment when it comes to assessing QBs.

Oh I happy with the guys we got it just seems to be awkward. For example how different would things be if we had contacted Minni about that first trade down. Might have gotten us one more day 2 player with a nifty trade up.

SoCalBronco
04-28-2012, 11:24 AM
So do we want Tommy Streeter next?

Yes. :homer:

DBroncos4life
04-28-2012, 11:27 AM
Yes. :homer:

Lol, I would like Tommy Streeter first, Winn second, or Dennard third.

razorwire77
04-28-2012, 11:28 AM
Seems to me like EFX are trying to hit doubles with this draft instead of the boon/bust type players. Now we can talk draft value, which is another conversation, but in terms of guys that will make the team and contribute right away I think Brock Osweiler is the only guy that won't/shouldn't see the field in 2012.

Wolfe will be a rotational guy right away and should see significant time as a UT right off the bat.

Hillman is instantly the 2nd option change of pace back. I think he'll start out as a 5-10 carry complimentary back, but he will be quite successful finding creases for big plays in a Manning offense.

Omar Bolden is a baller. If he can get healthy, (which to be honest is a big if because he missed a ton of time in 2009 too), will get on the field as a nickle back right away, and has the physicality and strength to start opposite Champ.

I think the Phillip Blake pick is as much about pushing Beadles as it is about pushing Walton. Regardless, he'll make the team as either a starter or desperately needed interior line depth.

Malk Jackson might be my favorite pick of the day. To find an athletic 280 pounder without character issues this late in draft is great.

Not a lot of sexy picks, and the positional value question is valid, but sans Brock I really like the players that are being added.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 11:31 AM
Oh I happy with the guys we got it just seems to be awkward. For example how different would things be if we had contacted Minni about that first trade down. Might have gotten us one more day 2 player with a nifty trade up.

Another fourth would have been sweet. I think I'm just happy to see some good Dlineman coming in here for a change. Hillman, I like. Bolden could be a steal if he's healthy. Blake is a solid center or backup guard. I'm starting to feel pretty good about it. ;D

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:31 AM
We're about full up on the number of rookies we want on a line at one time. With the inexperienced players we have from last year that might be having to step up, we are at the point of having almost no proven talent. Any more DL and we're gonna be stashing one or cutting them.

you can never have too many quality linemen. on O or D, i get your premise but neither one of our lines are so talented that we can pass on highly talented guys. not saying he's BPA on the teams board but he's a top tier DE talent who has fallen in the draft and would be excellent value.

pricejj
04-28-2012, 11:31 AM
I bet the next pick will be Levi Adcock. This has been on HELLUVA draft btw...

KevinJames
04-28-2012, 11:32 AM
love the Broncos day 3

Omar Bolden will be a great corner back such a big play maker I feel like this is a potential steal.

Philip Blake 2nd best center in the draft in the fourth round good value, will compete for a starting position at G or C

and then we grab Malik Jackson who is a high motor beast man who can play DT I love this day 3 for Denver.

If we grab a LB or WR in the 6th it will be a great draft. Maybe try out Rainey if hes there. Maybe take a shot on Burfict if hes there hell its only a 6th or grab a core special teamer w/ safety and LB potential in Iloka.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:32 AM
Seems to me like EFX are trying to hit doubles with this draft instead of the boon/bust type players. Now we can talk draft value, which is another conversation, but in terms of guys that will make the team and contribute right away I think Brock Osweiler is the only guy that won't/shouldn't see the field in 2012.

Wolfe will be a rotational guy right away and should see significant time as a UT right off the bat.

Hillman is instantly the 2nd option change of pace back. I think he'll start out as a 5-10 carry complimentary back, but he will be quite successful finding creases for big plays in a Manning offense.

Omar Bolden is a baller. If he can get healthy, (which to be honest is a big if because he missed a ton of time in 2009 too), will get on the field as a nickle back right away, and has the physicality and strength to start opposite Champ.

I think the Phillip Blake pick is as much about pushing Beadles as it is about pushing Walton. Regardless, he'll make the team as either a starter or desperately needed interior line depth.

Malk Jackson might be my favorite pick of the day. To find an athletic 280 pounder without character issues this late in draft is great.

Not a lot of sexy picks, and the positional value question is valid, but sans Brock I really like the players that are being added.
Good overview
AMAZING.
Watching the board from day 1 to day 2.
The sky was falling and Elway should be hung yesterday, and now it seems the concensus is that DEN is having a great draft by mid day 2!
L.O.L!!!
Unreal.

Gort
04-28-2012, 11:33 AM
ve the Broncos day 3

Omar Bolden will be a great corner back such a big play maker I feel like this is a potential steal.

Philip Blake 2nd best center in the draft in the fourth round good value, will compete for a starting position at G or C

and then we grab Malik Jackson who is a high motor beast man who can play DT I love this day 3 for Denver.

If we grab a LB in the 6th it will be a great draft. Maybe take a shot on Burfict if hes there hell its only a 6th or grab a core special teamer w/ safety and LB potential in Iloka.

you're a "glass half full" kind of guy, aren't you?

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:33 AM
this draft isn't sexy but it's damn sure effective in terms of how you build a high quality franchise that is consistently a winner and contending for championships.
we'll need to address LB next year but our other needs have been addressed with quality.

Gort
04-28-2012, 11:34 AM
Good overview
AMAZING.
Watching the board from day 1 to day 2.
The sky was falling and Elway should be hung yesterday, and now it seems the concensus is that DEN is having a great draft by mid day 2!
L.O.L!!!
Unreal.

huh? who thinks this is a great draft? just curious who in the media is congratulating us on this draft. i would like to read some educated takes if you have any links. i know they all have potential or you wouldn't draft them, but it seems like EFX were on their heels for most of this draft. more scared about not getting their guys than making bold moves.

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:34 AM
The only thing they haven't addressed is a coverage LB

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:34 AM
this draft isn't sexy but it's damn sure effective in terms of how you build a high quality franchise that is consistently a winner and contending for championships.
we'll need to address LB next year but our other needs have been addressed with quality.

I have faith in Fox that he can do exactly what he did with CAR in terms of LBs. Not worried.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:35 AM
The only thing they haven't addressed is a coverage LB

i really hope this means Irving is on the come. we need him to be the man at MLB in a big way.

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:36 AM
Where the hell is Albion College

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:36 AM
I have faith in Fox that he can do exactly what he did with CAR in terms of LBs. Not worried.

most of their star LB's were first round picks though. outside of Connor who was a third i believe.

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 11:36 AM
Tank Carder to the Bills. I have a feeling he'll do well up there.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:37 AM
huh? who thinks this is a great draft? just curious who in the media is congratulating us on this draft. i would like to read some educated takes if you have any links. i know they all have potential or you wouldn't draft them, but it seems like EFX were on their heels for most of this draft. more scared about not getting their guys than making bold moves.

Relax John. Your going to get through your butthurtitis.

broncos-rock
04-28-2012, 11:39 AM
Im a little surprised they didnt take Billy Winn.

houghtam
04-28-2012, 11:39 AM
Where the hell is Albion College

In MI, about 45 minutes from where I grew up. Tiny school. (1500 students, I think?). They play in the MIAA in Division III.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:39 AM
Where the hell is Albion College

Michigan.


but i must say the Rams have drafted the best name so far. Rokevius Watkins.

Gort
04-28-2012, 11:40 AM
Relax John. Your going to get through your butthurtitis.

how in the world do i sound butthurt? i told you i'm not a draft nerd. from a strategy perspective this draft just seemed a bit off to me. like sacrificing your bishops early on in a game of chess. just a peculiar way to go about winning the game. i think the QB and RB picks early are the most perplexing. how is that butthurt?

KevinJames
04-28-2012, 11:40 AM
you're a "glass half full" kind of guy, aren't you?

Why would you say that? Because I think those are all great picks? Even Mike Mayock said the Broncos are having a great 3rd day he loves all the picks as well.

Bmore Manning
04-28-2012, 11:41 AM
Danny Trevathan is a stud WLB..
George Iloka would be solid..
Jean-Baptiste would be cool, I don't see who's the future NT
Alfonzo Dennard would be cool..
Dwight Jones, Owusu, Criner...

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:41 AM
most of their star LB's were first round picks though. outside of Connor who was a third i believe.

Davis and Anderson were 1st rounders!?!?!?

DENVERDUI55
04-28-2012, 11:43 AM
Pittsburgh is killing this draft. No surprise though they always go trench heavy on both sides and front seven on defense. Meanwhile our FO mentality has always been flashy positions.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 11:44 AM
Pittsburgh is killing this draft. No surprise though they always go trench heavy on both sides and front seven on defense. Meanwhile our FO mentality has always been flashy positions.

And, yet, there we were standing tall at the end of that playoff game.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:44 AM
how in the world do i sound butthurt? i told you i'm not a draft nerd. from a strategy perspective this draft just seemed a bit off to me. like sacrificing your bishops early on in a game of chess. just a peculiar way to go about winning the game. i think the QB and RB picks early are the most perplexing. how is that butthurt?

Meh. I think some folks are being waaay to critical of the FO. They have produced since they took over and had good success. Let the, do their thing, and we will see in a few years, instead of being perplexed.
Note that many of the players that we fans had as high round DTs were not taken until the 4th and 5th round. I trust EFX.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 11:45 AM
Yeahhhh... showin' the Skins hottie on ESPN again. Wonder who she is.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:46 AM
Pittsburgh is killing this draft. No surprise though they always go trench heavy on both sides and front seven on defense. Meanwhile our FO mentality has always been flashy positions.

Actually they kinda got away from that and look at what happened. They needed to go back to the trenches this draft. No suprise. The o-line needed to be rebuilt. DEN finished kicking the living shiiaat out of them in that playoff game. They needed an overhaul.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:46 AM
Davis and Anderson were 1st rounders!?!?!?

Davis was #14 overall i believe. then you had Morgan(obviously Morgan was the first LB they took in round 1),Beason and now Kuechly.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:48 AM
Pittsburgh is killing this draft. No surprise though they always go trench heavy on both sides and front seven on defense. Meanwhile our FO mentality has always been flashy positions.

no they had gotten away from that recently and now it's biting them badly.
Pouncey was the start of them smartening up. now they have DeCastro to add to that. they are going back to the old steeler way of building, they're gonna play smash mouth football and knock you off the field on both sides.

razorwire77
04-28-2012, 11:50 AM
Tank Carder to the Bills. I have a feeling he'll do well up there.

I was hoping he might wind up a Bronco. I think he will excel on special teams.

baja
04-28-2012, 11:50 AM
Just think if Shanny were still here we could have drafted two QBs

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:51 AM
Just think if Shanny were still here we could have drafted two QBs

We'd still have Cutler

Rohirrim
04-28-2012, 11:51 AM
Kelemete to the Cards. Oh well.

That One Guy
04-28-2012, 11:51 AM
Crazy how much they're knocking the Cousins pick. I understand it's weird but I don't think there'll be the drama they suggest.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:52 AM
We'd still have Cutler
and Marshall, and various other pieces on offense that weren't an issue.
i would hope that the defense would have been fixed but he wasn't gonna fire Slowik so he had to go.

gyldenlove
04-28-2012, 11:52 AM
Jackson was a good pick. I thought he would go in the 4th, so minor steal to me. Now, just to figure out where to play him....

I would let him fatten up some more - he has a really nice frame he can pack some on some more meat and make him a rotation UT and play him at DE in the heavy goal line set.

baja
04-28-2012, 11:52 AM
We'd still have Cutler

I'll take Manning

gyldenlove
04-28-2012, 11:53 AM
Kelemete to the Cards. Oh well.

I think Kelemete is really underrated, he is very similar to Silatalu.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:53 AM
Crazy how much they're knocking the Cousins pick. I understand it's weird but I don't think there'll be the drama they suggest.

they're knocking it because you sold the farm for RGIII and still took another QB.
RGIII is a great player, but you have nothing behind him without Cousins. plus the value was great, if it works out you're dealing him for a Kolb like package in two years.

RaiderH8r
04-28-2012, 11:53 AM
The only thing they haven't addressed is a coverage LB

Highhtower?

oubronco
04-28-2012, 11:53 AM
I'll take Manning

Sure but it wouldn't have been as much of an option if Shanny were still here

broncos-rock
04-28-2012, 11:53 AM
I would let him fatten up some more - he has a really nice frame he can pack some on some more meat and make him a rotation UT and play him at DE in the heavy goal line set.

I think Cecil said he is at 295 :strong:

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:55 AM
I would let him fatten up some more - he has a really nice frame he can pack some on some more meat and make him a rotation UT and play him at DE in the heavy goal line set.

naw, he can't hold a ton more, his legs don't have enough girth to support more than the 290 he is right now. he might be able to hold 295 but anything above that is likely too much.

broncos-rock
04-28-2012, 11:55 AM
No Colorado guys taken yet?

baja
04-28-2012, 11:56 AM
Sure but it wouldn't have been as much of an option if Shanny were still here


Well it is what it is

Shanny would have run us further into the ground. We needed a shake up and so did Shanny. A case of too much power.

BroncoBeavis
04-28-2012, 11:56 AM
you're a "glass half full" kind of guy, aren't you?

Lots of people got that way once TJ's favorite Tight End left town.

socalorado
04-28-2012, 11:57 AM
naw, he can't hold a ton more, his legs don't have enough girth to support more than the 290 he is right now. he might be able to hold 295 but anything above that is likely too much.

Agreed. Let Del Rio do what he does best with these guys, and make them better.

RaiderH8r
04-28-2012, 11:58 AM
they're knocking it because you sold the farm for RGIII and still took another QB.
RGIII is a great player, but you have nothing behind him without Cousins. plus the value was great, if it works out you're dealing him for a Kolb like package in two years.

Almost as awesome as taking a project QB in the second round to back up the guy you just spent $96 million to get while shipping out a project QB who just took you to the playoffs for the first time since 2005 and pissed all over the steelers faithful while giving the club a fantastic run while gaping holes exist everywhere with only mediocre, inconsistent and/or injury plagued players to fill them. Sweet. Sweet. But EFX has to win a SB within the next 2-3 years or this manning move is fail. I don't see anything that indicates EFX is in any rush to win a title any time soon.

BowlenBall
04-28-2012, 11:58 AM
Made up my mind... I'm rooting for us to take Eric Page, WR in the 6th.

Lestat
04-28-2012, 11:59 AM
Agreed. Let Del Rio do what he does best with these guys, and make them better.

i like him as a tweener type. you can use some 3-4 sets with him and Ayers on the field together at times. reminds a bit of how i envisioned Coples being potentially used.