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TheReverend
04-24-2012, 12:08 PM
With trade :)

1. Dre Kirkpatrick
1. (trading #2 and #3 to move to the end of round 1 or the top of round 2) Devon Still
4. Chris Rainey
4. Juron Criner
5. Lucas Nix
6. Jack Crawford (that ones for me lol)
7. Derrius Brooks

The addition of Kirk and Porter to the secondary fixes our long line of coverage woes while Devon can make an immediate impact rotating with Vickerson at the UT position next to Warren and Bannan.

Rainey would add the element to Peyton's game that Brees got with Sproles and Criner is just VASTLY underrated. Nix provides OL depth and competition at a position of need and provides an attitude missing from our current OL.

Crawford and Brooks have the potential to be special but would clearly spend the year on the PS. Jack has loads of talent but outside of a great end of the season stretch on a team in turmoil, really hasnt put it together with any consistency and poor performances in the combine and senior bowl have pushed him from 2nd/3rd round consideration to end of the draft. As for Brooks... if you run a 4.29 you should get a shot.

Without trade :(

1. Brockers/Poe/Still
2. Jamell Fleming
3. Brandon Washington (that ones for SoCal)
4. Chris Rainey
4. Juron Criner
5. Kirk Cousins
6. Jack Crawford
7. Derrius Brooks

This one adds a better IOL player in Washington over Nix along with a decently solid QB prospect to develop in Cousins but sacrifices CB quality in Fleming for Kirk.

Either way, both are extremely ideal scenarios, imo.

Requiem
04-24-2012, 12:10 PM
God, no. Cousins is going way before the 5th.

TheReverend
04-24-2012, 12:11 PM
God, no. Cousins is going way before the 5th.

Maybe so, but third-fifth tier QBs do have a tendency to slide a long, LONG ways down while people make plays and runs on positions that will actually contribute on the field.

yerner
04-24-2012, 12:16 PM
you had me at juron..

seriously though, on paper that's a huge draft for the broncos. Rainey and Criner would be huge with Manning.

BroncoInferno
04-24-2012, 12:36 PM
I don't believe we have a 7th. Included that in the Tebow trade and got a 6th back. Otherwise, either scenario would work for me.

ludo21
04-24-2012, 12:40 PM
I would LOVE Criner and Rainey

speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-24-2012, 12:42 PM
I like Juron a lot but Raineys size scares me. Would like to see James from Oregon over Rainey.

TheReverend
04-24-2012, 01:00 PM
I don't believe we have a 7th. Included that in the Tebow trade and got a 6th back. Otherwise, either scenario would work for me.

Yup, my bad, you're right. That selection belongs to the Colts now.

Repped for finding one of my extremely rare incorrect moments :)

RunSilentRunDeep
04-24-2012, 01:49 PM
No way does a late second and late third get you back into the first round.

1. Brockers/Poe/Worthy
2. Trumaine Johnson
3. Robert Turbin
4. Zebrie Sanders
4. Jonathan Massaqoui
5. Ryan Lindley
6. Kashif Moore

TheReverend
04-24-2012, 02:09 PM
No way does a late second and late third get you back into the first round.

1. Brockers/Poe/Worthy
2. Trumaine Johnson
3. Robert Turbin
4. Zebrie Sanders
4. Jonathan Massaqoui
5. Ryan Lindley
6. Kashif Moore

1. #57 and #89 equate to the #30 selection in the first round according to the value chart.

2. There are several teams in that range that have publicly spoken about trading back, and therefore are probably willing to lose a small amount of perceived "value" in doing so for more picks.

3. The original post clearly states: "(trading #2 and #3 to move to the end of round 1 or the top of round 2)"

Any questions?

Tombstone RJ
04-24-2012, 02:15 PM
No way does a late second and late third get you back into the first round.

1. Brockers/Poe/Worthy
2. Trumaine Johnson
3. Robert Turbin
4. Zebrie Sanders
4. Jonathan Massaqoui
5. Ryan Lindley
6. Kashif Moore

I doubt Lindley is there in the 5th.

gyldenlove
04-24-2012, 02:22 PM
No trades:

1. Peter Konz, C
2. Lamar Miller, RB
3. Kheeston Randall, DT
4. Ryan Steed, CB
4. Tom Compton, OT
5. Hebron Fangupo, DT
6. Tyler Nielsen, LB

RunSilentRunDeep
04-24-2012, 03:14 PM
1. #57 and #89 equate to the #30 selection in the first round according to the value chart.

2. There are several teams in that range that have publicly spoken about trading back, and therefore are probably willing to lose a small amount of perceived "value" in doing so for more picks.

3. The original post clearly states: "(trading #2 and #3 to move to the end of round 1 or the top of round 2)"

Any questions?

Yes, I have three.

1. Why would you waste your time on something as stupid and obsolete as the draft points chart?

2. Are you always so defensive? It wasn't like I was hurling insults. I just commented on the obvious fact a 3rd-rounder wasn't going to move anyone 26 spots that early in the draft.

3. Would you like me to refrain commenting on your posts? I don't want to upset you.

Regardless, if you would like to educate yourself on the cost of moving up in the second round, here are the deals from last year.

Trade

San Francisco 49ers: Acquire No. 36 pick in 2011
Denver Broncos: Acquire picks No. 45, No. 108 and No. 141 in 2011

Trade

Indianapolis Colts: Acquire No. 49 pick in 2011
Washington Redskins: Acquire picks No. 53 and No. 152 in 2011

Trade

Chicago Bears: Acquire No. 53 pick in 2011
Washington Redskins: Acquire picks No. 62 and No. 127 in 2011

Trade

Detroit Lions: Acquire picks No. 57, No. 157 and No. 209 in 2011
Seattle Seahawks: Acquire picks No. 75, No. 107, No. 154 and No. 205 in 2011

Trade

Houston Texans: Acquire No. 60 pick in 2011
New England Patriots: Acquire picks No. 73 and No. 138 in 2011

Trade

Miami Dolphins: Acquire No. 62 pick in 2011
Washington Redskins: Acquire picks No. 79, No. 146 and No. 217 in 2011

Trade

Jacksonville Jaguars: Acquire No. 76 pick in 2011
San Francisco 49ers: Acquire picks No. 80 and No. 182 in 2011

Trade

Oakland Raiders: Acquire picks No. 92 and No. 125 in 2011
New England Patriots: Acquire pick No. 219 in 2011 and a second-round pick in 2012

Trade

Baltimore Ravens: Acquire No. 85 pick in 2011
Philadelphia Eagles: Acquire picks No. 90 and No. 191 in 2011