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Boomhauer
04-24-2012, 09:12 AM
We look pretty well set at these positions and the draft is quite deep in talent. Here's my lists of possible picks with ones ready to start and contribute this year highlighted. All players mentioned I've scouted while their round prediction is based on various 'expert' opinions.

RB
Mario Fannin (5'11" 224) and Jeremiah Johnson (5'9" 200) combined are capable of carrying the team this year, but another young RB would be a good idea since McGahee is a dog-slow veteran and NoShow's a bust.

David Wilson - 1st/2nd
Doug Martin - 1st/2nd
Lamar Miller - 2nd
Chris Polk - 2nd
Bernard Pierce - 3rd
Robert Turin - 3rd
Isaiah Pead - 3rd
Cyrus Gray - 3rd/4th
Tauren Poole - 4th/5th
Ronnie Hillman - 5th
Bryce Brown - 6th
Brandon Bolden - 6th
Bobby Rainey - 7th
The two best RBs above, IMO, are Cyrus Gray and Tauren Poole. There's a form dropoff going to Brown/Bolden and a speed dropoff with Martin. I'm hoping we can either draft Gray or Poole to compete for the starting gig.

WR
This is much more a position of need than RB, with none of our three-best WRs having #1 potential - Caldwell, Goodwin and Decker. Mark Dell showed a lot of potential last summer. Willis and Hill are OK backup K/PRs, but I've already written off Stokley and Thomas for the same reasons as McGahee and NoShow.

Kendall Wright - 1st/2nd
AJ Jenkins - 2nd
Rishard Matthews - 2nd/3rd
Greg Childs - 3rd
Danny Coale - 6th
Chris Owusu - 6th/7th
Toney Clemons - 7th
Keshawn Martin - CFA
Michael Calvin - CFA
Jermaine Kearse - CFA
Jerrell Jackson - CFA

The best WRs for us, IMO, is Matthews and Clemons with Calvin maybe a 1yr project or could immediately contribute. All are big, fast #1-type receivers we need while Coale and Martin are smaller Eddie Royal-type receivers. I'd like to see us draft Matthews, but it might make better sense (value) to look at Clemons or Calvin late/CFA.

CB
Tracy Porter was a great signing, but it's only for one year and Champ isn't getting any younger. We're set at CB this season, especially with Vaughn and Harris backing them up, but depth needs to be looked at for the future.

Janoris Jenkins - 2nd
Josh Robinson - 2nd
Asa Jackson - 4th/5th
Coty Sensabaugh - 5th/6th
Terrence Frederick - 6th
Derrius Brooks - 7th
Isaiah Frey - 7th
Lionel Smith - 7th
Antonio Fenelus - 7th
Trenton Hughes - CFA
Buddy Jackson - CFA

If we're looking for a potential starter this year that we can pin hopes on for next, Jenkins or Brooks should be drafted. Considering value and character, Brooks is probably the better choice. Just behind them is Frederick, who could be ready week1 with some coaching. Lionel Smith is an excellent DB that could play nickel or backup FS immediately, but I'm not sure about his man-coverage skills though he does have the size/speed for it. Frey and Fenelus have great potential, but would likely require a season to be ready.

ludo21
04-24-2012, 09:19 AM
I really like Chris Polk at RB for Denver. Fits what Peyton likes to do.

yerner
04-24-2012, 09:22 AM
People are sleeping on Juron Criner

Mogulseeker
04-24-2012, 09:23 AM
Big mistake just writing off Thomas. He's going to be a beast... not exactly perfect for Manning's system, but he'll be here long after Peyton is gone.

Popcorn Sutton
04-24-2012, 09:23 AM
Turbin.

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TheChamp24
04-24-2012, 09:41 AM
lol at just writing Thomas off.

But seriously, you forgot this guy in your WR's:
http://nysooners.com/files/2011/09/ryan-broyles-opx8-708.jpg

He performed at OU's pro Day and IMO will be set for training camp, and would be a great mid round pick. He can catch, great after the catch, and tough to go all over the field.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
04-24-2012, 09:58 AM
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SonOfLe-loLang
04-24-2012, 10:00 AM
You've written off Demaryius Thomas for the same reason you do mcgahee and moreno...which were "because one is slow and one is a bust"

That makes no sense. Not to mention that you seem to hold Mark Dell in higher esteem than you do our best receiver from last year, who is also a physical beast.

Requiem
04-24-2012, 10:25 AM
Boomhauer never makes sense. Fail.

DBroncos4life
04-24-2012, 10:59 AM
Boomhauer never makes sense. Fail.

This.

bronco militia
04-24-2012, 11:57 AM
This is much more a position of need than RB, with none of our three-best WRs having #1 potential - Caldwell, Goodwin and Decker.

what

barryr
04-24-2012, 07:55 PM
Don't forget WR Marvin Jones of Cal. He could be a steal for somebody.

Requiem
04-24-2012, 07:56 PM
This is much more a position of need than RB, with none of our three-best WRs having #1 potential - Caldwell, Goodwin and Decker.

what

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpn7buV7981qgr6iq.gif

cmhargrove
04-24-2012, 08:00 PM
This is much more a position of need than RB, with none of our three-best WRs having #1 potential - Caldwell, Goodwin and Decker.

what

I googled Goodwin, and this is what I found. Makes sense...
http://theoriginalwinger.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/1.jpg

Jason7730
04-24-2012, 08:07 PM
McGahee dog-slow and write off Thomas? WTF?

vancejohnson82
04-24-2012, 08:11 PM
the human head weighs eight pounds

Broncos4Life
04-24-2012, 09:27 PM
People are sleeping on Juron Criner

This.

Dude is not blazing fast, but gets open and catches the damn ball! Draft this guy!

Mogulseeker
04-24-2012, 10:29 PM
I remember when I thought McGahee was slow. Then I saw him bust out that TD 50+, blowing past the Raiders speedy secondary.

OBTW, OP is TL/DR.

Boomhauer
04-24-2012, 11:30 PM
...seriously, you forgot this guy in your WR's: ...
Forgot to clarify in the OP that I didn't scout players expected to be gone before we picked at #25 such as Richardson, Blackmon, Floyd, Clayborne and Kirkpatrick. All are legitimate 1st Rnd picks I'd gladly see us take if they fell.

Boomhauer
04-24-2012, 11:43 PM
Don't forget WR Marvin Jones of Cal. He could be a steal for somebody.

I didn't forget him, I scouted and passed. During that Cal's #3 WR Michael Calvin really stood out for his great awareness, physicality and speed. Calvin didn't see a lot of passes, but new every assignment and excelled when blocking, pursued with his head on a swivel to help his teammates extend plays (even taking an angle across the entire field to run down Sofele) and ran every route at full speed and with precision even though he was just the decoy.

It's hard to gauge his hands with such a limited number of passes, but he could make an immediate impact on SP-Teams while contributing as a receiver his first season.

Boomhauer
04-24-2012, 11:48 PM
You've written off Demaryius Thomas for the same reason you do mcgahee and moreno...which were "because one is slow and one is a bust" That makes no sense...
If you'd gotten the comment right, it might make more sense; "I've already written off Stokley and Thomas for the same reasons as McGahee and NoShow." Which means Stokely and McGahee are equally dog-slow while Thomas and Moreno are equally busts. Would it have helped if I'd said "respectively"?

Shananahan
04-24-2012, 11:54 PM
I can't remember the exact reason I wrote off Boomhauer's opinions, but I remember thinking it was pretty valid.

Archer81
04-24-2012, 11:56 PM
If you'd gotten the comment right, it might make more sense; "I've already written off Stokley and Thomas for the same reasons as McGahee and NoShow." Which means Stokely and McGahee are equally dog-slow while Thomas and Moreno are equally busts. Would it have helped if I'd said "respectively"?


It would help if you knew what you were talking about.


:Broncos:

Shananahan
04-25-2012, 12:00 AM
Oh yeah, Kyle McCarthy.

DBroncos4life
04-25-2012, 12:19 AM
I often wonder why there is a term limit on abor....

Bacchus
04-25-2012, 12:44 AM
If you'd gotten the comment right, it might make more sense; "I've already written off Stokley and Thomas for the same reasons as McGahee and NoShow." Which means Stokely and McGahee are equally dog-slow while Thomas and Moreno are equally busts. Would it have helped if I'd said "respectively"?

Thomas will have 100+ receptions this year.

canadianbroncosfan
04-25-2012, 03:01 AM
If you'd gotten the comment right, it might make more sense; "I've already written off Stokley and Thomas for the same reasons as McGahee and NoShow." Which means Stokely and McGahee are equally dog-slow while Thomas and Moreno are equally busts. Would it have helped if I'd said "respectively"?

No. Because it still makes absolutely zero sense to compare the two.

TheChamp24
04-25-2012, 06:04 AM
Forgot to clarify in the OP that I didn't scout players expected to be gone before we picked at #25 such as Richardson, Blackmon, Floyd, Clayborne and Kirkpatrick. All are legitimate 1st Rnd picks I'd gladly see us take if they fell.

So what you are saying is Ryan Broyles will be a top 25 pick?

Boomhauer
04-25-2012, 08:37 AM
Based on the responses, does that mean everyone would be cool with our RB corps this year being --

220lb Mario Fannin - Auburn
http://www.thewareaglereader.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fannin-fun-e1269918598727.jpg

200lb Jeremiah Johnson - Oregon
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/168/925/82878712_display_image.jpg?1312815777


And either draft 200lb Cyrus Gray - Texas A&M
http://www.docsports.com/images/lib/large/cyrus-gray.jpg

or 200lb Tauren Poole - Tennesse
http://wrcb.images.worldnow.com/images/16532169_SS.jpg

TheChamp24
04-25-2012, 08:49 AM
Based on the responses, does that mean everyone would be cool with our RB corps this year being --

220lb Mario Fannin - Auburn
http://www.thewareaglereader.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fannin-fun-e1269918598727.jpg

200lb Jeremiah Johnson - Oregon
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/168/925/82878712_display_image.jpg?1312815777


And either draft 200lb Cyrus Gray - Texas A&M
http://www.docsports.com/images/lib/large/cyrus-gray.jpg

or 200lb Tauren Poole - Tennesse
http://wrcb.images.worldnow.com/images/16532169_SS.jpg

So wait, when did McGahee get cut, retire or die?

DBroncos4life
04-25-2012, 08:55 AM
So wait, when did McGahee get cut, retire or die?

This tard thinks Johnson is better then McGahee. Hilarious!

cousinal11
04-25-2012, 09:17 AM
I still would love it if we landed Dwight Jones (NC - WR) 5-7

oubronco
04-25-2012, 04:13 PM
lol at just writing Thomas off.

But seriously, you forgot this guy in your WR's:
http://nysooners.com/files/2011/09/ryan-broyles-opx8-708.jpg

He performed at OU's pro Day and IMO will be set for training camp, and would be a great mid round pick. He can catch, great after the catch, and tough to go all over the field.

Hell Yeah

Boomhauer
04-26-2012, 09:40 PM
A few WR rankings have changed, so I'm updating the OP here:

WR
Kendall Wright - 1st/2nd (#20 Ten)
AJ Jenkins - 2nd (#30 - SF)
Rishard Matthews - 2nd/3rd
Greg Childs - 3rd
Keshawn Martin - 4th/5th
Danny Coale - 6th
Chris Owusu - 6th
Toney Clemons - 6th
Michael Calvin - 7th
Jermaine Kearse - CFA
Jerrell Jackson - CFA

Boomhauer
04-27-2012, 12:56 AM
With Rnd 2 today, a few posters have speculated we'll take a RB. These are both good RBs that could contribute, but aren't the best ones still available IMO. They're each about 6'0" and 215lbs, run the 40yrd in under 4.4sec, had good 20yr shuttles and acceptable 3-cones, but have a few questions regarding their form.
Which of these 2nd Rnd'ers would you rather have?

Lamar Miller - Miami
http://www.miamidolphinsdraft.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/211111001069_Bethune_Cookman_at_Miami.jpg

Bernard Pierce - Temple
http://gcobb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/BernardPierce6.jpg

ZONA
04-27-2012, 02:24 AM
The thread starter lost me at the Thomas part. Go back and watch the playoff game dude, and not just the OT time play. He was making big plays all day, and that was with Tebow throwing the rock. Insert Manning and now Thomas becomes a top 10 WR in by book. Just watch.

Boomhauer
04-28-2012, 12:07 AM
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Broncos traded away a 4th Rnd pick to move up and select RB Ronnie Hillman in the early 3rd Rnd. My scouting;
Strength - Excellent vision, good quickness and speed. Surprising athleticism and burst.
Weakness - Upright and unpowerful runner with poor balance easily tripped or tackled. Developmental as a receiver and pass blocker.
Conclusion - Late round return man that won't be ready for the backfield in at least 1yr.

This pick is quite baffling, especially since the Broncos moved up to do it. I rated Gray and Poole much higher as they posses the same strengths, but also have strengths where Hillman's weaknesses are and they'd be ready to compete for the starting spot immediately.

Hillman could be an impact player returning kicks this year, which is a good enough reason to draft someone, but they're even better RB options for that. Pierce went just before our original 3rd Rnd Pick and Miller is still available. Each has all Hillman's strengths, are faster, larger, better balanced and more powerful backs, though they also have upright styles and need work elsewhere on their game. But they might be able to man the backfield by early season while Hillman will not.

I hope whatever the Broncos saw in him that I didn't, like spectacular return ability, is revealed this preseason or else this will remain a questionable pick. A plugger DT like Thompson (#93 overall) where our original pick was, instead of losing a 4th that could have gone on a better back, is a huge miss IMO, but if Hillman manages 2-3 K/PR for TDs each year, he'll be a steal.

Boomhauer
04-28-2012, 08:08 AM
Updating the Cornerbacks from the OP -

Janoris Jenkins - 2nd (#39 STL)
Josh Robinson - 2nd (#66 Min)
Asa Jackson - 4th/5th
Coty Sensabaugh - 5th/6th
Terrence Frederick - 6th
Derrius Brooks - 7th
Isaiah Frey - 7th
Lionel Smith - 7th
Antonio Fenelus - 7th
Trenton Hughes - CFA
Buddy Jackson - CFA

Which one, if any, of these CBs do you think the Broncos should target in the 6th-7th Rnd? My order;

Derrius Brooks - Western Kentucky / 5'9" 192lbs
http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics32/400/OE/OEGZUXWBWVOGBZD.20120125230258.jpg

Terrence Frederick - Texas A&M / 5'10" 187lbs
http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/06/10/33/1607367/3/628x471.jpg

Isaiah Frey - Nevada / 5'11" 188lbs
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/001/906/991/119817_display_image.jpg?1329083695

Boomhauer
05-03-2012, 05:24 AM
Update: Where they went

RB
David Wilson - 1st/2nd = Rnd1 Giants
Doug Martin - 1st/2nd = Rnd1 Bucs
Lamar Miller - 2nd = Rnd4 Dolphins
Chris Polk - 2nd = CFA Eagles
Bernard Pierce - 3rd = Rnd3 Ravens
Robert Turin - 3rd = Rnd4 Seahawks
Isaiah Pead - 3rd = Rnd2 Rams
Cyrus Gray - 3rd/4th = Rnd6 Chiefs
Tauren Poole - 4th/5th = CFA Panthers
Ronnie Hillman - 5th = Rnd3 Broncos
Bryce Brown - 6th = Rnd7 Eagles
Brandon Bolden - 6th = CFA Redskins
Bobby Rainey - 7th = CFA Ravens

WR
Kendall Wright - 1st/2nd = Rnd1 Titans
AJ Jenkins - 2nd = Rnd1 49'ers
Rishard Matthews - 2nd/3rd = Rnd7 Dolphins
Greg Childs - 3rd = Rnd4 Vikings
Keshawn Martin - 4th-5th = Rnd4 Texans
Danny Coale - 6th = Rnd5 Cowboys
Chris Owusu - 6th = CFA 49'ers
Toney Clemons - 6th = Rnd7 Steelers
Michael Calvin - 7th = CFA Falcons
Jermaine Kearse - CFA = CFA Seahawks
Jerrell Jackson - CFA = CFA Texans

CB
Janoris Jenkins - 2nd = Rnd2 Rams
Josh Robinson - 2nd = Rnd3 Vikings
Asa Jackson - 4th/5th = Rnd5 Ravens
Coty Sensabaugh - 5th/6th = Rnd4 Titans
Terrence Frederick - 6th = Rnd7 Steelers
Derrius Brooks - 7th = CFA Bengals
Isaiah Frey - 7th = Rnd6 Bears
Lionel Smith - 7th = CFA Cowboys
Antonio Fenelus - 7th = CFA Colts
Trenton Hughes - CFA = CFA Dolphins
Buddy Jackson - CFA = CFA Colts