Liberals

[~Crash~]

why are they called this ? I am not joking ? they want to control you with government . should they not be the restive party ?:wave:

[Blart]

Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis) is the belief in liberty and equality.

Aside from anarchism, all political philosophies set out to control people via government.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

why are they called this ? I am not joking ? they want to control you with government . should they not be the restive party ?:wave:

Who is trying to control who? I assume you are talking about anyone but the Right Wing rigid train of thought.
Most Independents agree with the following but I'll humor you...

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"Liberals" don't want government to pick "the only god" or no one for you.

"Liberals" don't want government to control your sex life in your own home.

"Liberals" don't care what your sexual orientation is and don't want government to discriminate against you because of it.

"Liberals" realize that marriage is at best, a failure for 50% Americans, and is NOT a candidate for changing the Constitution.

"Liberals" don't want the government spending trillions of American tax dollars nation building in the Middle East or any other foreign country.

"Liberals" don't want the government to have free reign to ravage and pillage the soil we live and depend on in the name of fossil fuel exploration.

"Liberals" don't want to take away women's rights based on their personal beliefs.

The list goes on but maybe you get the point....or not.

[alkemical]

I don't understand the monikers used of "Liberal" & "Conservative". They don't really mean anything beyond a label (marketing) for product (ideology).

[~Crash~]

See I am not really of a party but I see this jumping off the cliff by both parties .. Democrat's are nuts right now they spend like there is no tomorrow . so what we got on the other side the same...

I still say Liberals want to save you from the minuet you are born . What if I don't want the poison you are peddling ? I want a country were people can do as they please as long as they do not tread on your rights what the sam hell do you care if someone wants to destroy their life's .

I could list all the crazy ideas of restive party (Liberals) but you would just talk politics and not talk about were your party has went in the last 10 years . both sides are in the ****ter and now both sides are screaming your side stinks the most . lol they both stink to hell

[alkemical]

See I am not really of a party but I see this jumping off the cliff by both parties .. Democats are nuts right now they spend like there is no tommarrow . so what we got on the other side the same...

I still say Liberals want to save you from the minet you are born . What if I don't want the posin you are peddling ? I want a country were people can do as they please as long as they do not tread on your rights what the sam hell do you care if someone wants to destroy thier lifes .

I could list all the crazy ideas of restive party (Liberals) but you would just talk poltics and not talk about were your party has went in the last 10 years . both sides are in the ****ter and now both sides are scraming your side stinks the most . lol they both stink to hell


I don't see a difference in "party" when it comes to "micromanaging".

[Blart]

I want a country were people can do as they please as long as they do not tread on your rights what the sam hell do you care if someone wants to destroy thier lifes .


And where do those rights come from?

[~Crash~]

I do Republicans are not trying to tell me to by a $40,000 battery car that is not what I need to run a farm sorry it is not going to work . stop telling me what is good for me ! I know what is the past and I can tell you gas is needed to raise your food . I will be raising you food prices this year don't bitch at my farm ass . your restrictive selfs to blame.

[alkemical]

I do Republicans are not trying to tell me to by a $40,000 battery car that is not what I need to run a farm sorry it is not going to work . stop telling me what is good for me ! I know what is the past and I can tell you gas is needed to raise your food . I will be raising you food prices this year don't b**** at my farm ass . your restrictive selfs to blame.


Say what? Republicans just waged war on vaginas.


PS - stop using so much NPK ferts and save some of the petrol. ;)

[Blart]

Well I don't like the government spending $20 billion per year on farm subsidies. Can we stop those because they tread on my rights? Or perhaps have you grow something other than corn?

[alkemical]

Well I don't like the government spending $20 billion per year on farm subsidies. Can we stop those because they tread on my rights?

Hey, we're going to pay you to grow GMO food. Not real food.

[~Crash~]

And where do those rights come from?not from the people a lot of this BS People do not want .

I say Congress and the Senate needs to be a 2 term deal unless there is a balanced budget . I am not talking a white wash either . we are in the black or there ass out the door ! no more kings or Queens either they are suppose to be our Representatives . what is good enough for average citizen's should be good enough for them . fly on the cheap . hell all the laws that are on the books are crazy 90% could be gone. all Drugs should be legalized . yes all business can still not hire the idiots that want to ruin their life's . you do get when you roof you house you got duggies on you roof right ?

[Blart]

I do Republicans are not trying to tell me to by a $40,000 battery car that is not what I need to run a farm sorry it is not going to work . stop telling me what is good for me ! I know what is the past and I can tell you gas is needed to raise your food . I will be raising you food prices this year don't b**** at my farm ass . your restrictive selfs to blame.

I guess that's just a basic difference of opinion, then. I want American officials to act in the best interests of America, and if they don't, I want them held accountable. You want officials to act in nobody's interest.

[~Crash~]

Well I don't like the government spending $20 billion per year on farm subsidies. Can we stop those because they tread on my rights? Or perhaps have you grow something other than corn?

good get rid of all the BS . I agree at times it might get kind of hard people will do just fine with out the government !

[~Crash~]

I Raise Black Berries and Blue Berries I have no use for government !

[Paladin]

"What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

-JFK, September 14, 1960



This message was cut and pasted without the aid of Mrs.TOG's nipples.)

[~Crash~]

I guess that's just a basic difference of opinion, then. I want American officials to act in the best interests of America, and if they don't, I want them held accountable. You want officials to act in nobody's interest.

so moving towards a cliff is good ? I am not joking so if China come calling for there money you say ?

[Blart]

"What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

-JFK, September 14, 1960



And that's the thread.

[~Crash~]

The Federal Government should help 2% of the time . right now it is crazy were we are .


Senators and Congress are acting like kings and Queens this is fact. they should not even get paid ever ! it should be a honer not a job. then they would act in the interest of the people that sent them there.

[snowspot66]

Really? They wouldn't just accept more money in shady backroom deals?

[~Crash~]

one last thought .

Jewish people should be brought to one of the Western States and given permanent place one County in the state to live ,stop all wars for all time . call it new jerlism .

I just think people need to stop worring about other and let them live there lifes

[~Crash~]

And that's the thread.


nope sorry that was a loooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago ... you stink to hell and so does the R's ...now days we are lost all of the parties are full stink

[~Crash~]

we are like a bloated tick and the chines are about to step on it ...

[Blart]

one last thought .

Jewish people should be brought to one of the Western States and given permanent place one County in the state to live ,stop all wars for all time . call it new jerlism .

I just think people need to stop worring about other and let them live there lifes

Hrm. Libertarian or Nazi? Such a fine line.

[Meck77]

one last thought .

Jewish people should be brought to one of the Western States and given permanent place one County in the state to live ,stop all wars for all time . call it new jerlism .

I just think people need to stop worring about other and let them live there lifes

Given? What about the people of darfur? The millions of Americans struggling in THIS country? There is a billion+ people around the globe living in third world conditions. Should they be given their own state also?

That is some serious eminent domain you are proposing right there. :crazy:

As far as the topic at hand. The two party system is designed to keep Americans fighting among themselves so there is no real change of power. The federal reserve and the crooks who own it like it this way. Bush, obama, the next president is nothing but a pawn for them.

You want change? It's Ron Paul. Unfortunately the average pea brain American has been brainwashed by the media to paint him as "Crazy".

*shrug* Keep fighting each other. It's what the "liberals" and "conservatives" want you to do.

[alkemical]

we are like a bloated tick and the chines are about to step on it ...

We did/do it to ourselves.

[Blart]

You want change? It's Ron Paul. Unfortunately the average pea brain American has been brainwashed by the media to paint him as "Crazy".

A man who denies evolutionary biology, climate science, social science, sells racist newsletters, and believes that Rick Perry is behind a massive conspiracy with Mexico and Canada to form a brand new country (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul349.html), and is also the neo-nazi's man of the year (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t836078-28/).

If he's not crazy, then yeah, I guess I'm brainwashed.

[alkemical]

A man who denies evolutionary biology, climate science, social science, sells racist newsletters, and believes that Rick Perry is behind a massive conspiracy with Mexico and Canada to form a brand new country (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul349.html), and is also the neo-nazi's man of the year (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t836078-28/).

If he's not crazy, then yeah, I guess I'm brainwashed.

He's crazy, but not ill.

I like a lot of things that Ron Paul stands for. I just don't trust the people who trumpet it - to do the work to actually 'get there'.

[~Crash~]

one last thought Democrats and Republican's are saving us all from the 2% and what needs to happen is just the opposite. look at berni madoff ... yep he sucked well now the government is now pestering the 98% of people that have followed the rules. Wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!! like I said punish the people that are breaking the laws not the 98%.

no I get it you guys want to be pissed at me I see the post up above teaming with save us all from our selfs post ...to bad I was trying to start a wave . to bad it will not be here as usually partsin to the core .

[~Crash~]

I like the idea all men are created equal and that all people should be treated just and kind.

I don't understand singling anyone out. for anything. for instance gay marrige who cares ? if a guy can take care of 5 ladies that is his and thier problems not mine.


It goes on and on and on leave me the **** alone!

[Meck77]

A man who denies evolutionary biology, climate science, social science, sells racist newsletters, and believes that Rick Perry is behind a massive conspiracy with Mexico and Canada to form a brand new country (http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul349.html), and is also the neo-nazi's man of the year (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t836078-28/).

If he's not crazy, then yeah, I guess I'm brainwashed.

Blart "crazy" is a relative term. Some might label you "crazy" for finding another man's hairy butt hole attractive. *shrug*

To each his own.

[~Crash~]

We are all trying to tell others how to live there life's why? let some fall on there faces someone will help them out it is called family . some will be blood some will not. In America there is plenty help for people doing the right things.

Lets all stand back and let some people fly . Right now we are afraid of the 2 %


Lets take back our country and live and stop letting 2% dictate what the 98% do day to day . if you let 2 % make the rules this is a sorry ass place to live.

[~Crash~]

lets all be Liberals in life but do it for the just and stop tying to save people that are not doing the right things. let them fall on there faces and see what is right.

[~Crash~]

look life is great so stop trying to tell me I need saved I want to live a little and enjoy .

[~Crash~]

wow ten pounds lighter...lol

[Blart]

let them fall on there faces and see what is right.

Like any libertarian, you're begging for corporate tyranny.