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Bmore Manning
04-15-2012, 10:44 PM
This mock is the second version of what I would do. After more indepth studying of Bronco needs, recent moves, and best chance of winning this would be my mock.

1. Janoris Jenkins CB
This is the next Randy Moss of his position. Does he have a lot of **** with him? He sure does, but his ability to play man to man coverage and make plays is undeniable. Character concerns will push him down into our waiting open arms!

2. Mike Martin DT
This guy has really grown on me. One thing I love about him is his ability to play 3-4 NT, or either 4-3 technique. I think he has a great upside because of his relentless motor which will make him a great player in the system. He also did very well in one on one drills at the senior bowl showing he can do more than stuff the run.

3. Ben Jones C
Nothing about his combine performance will blow you away, but everything he does on the field is so right. He plays so nasty and has all the intangibles to make it at the next level.

4. Kheeston Randal DT
One of the better unknowns at the DT position, much like Martin, Randal has versatility to play 3-4 NT, or either 4-3 technique. His motor is relentless and plays with such great leverage making him stout at the point of attack. Able to free up linebackers and DEs because of his ability to demand a double team.

4. Ty Hilton WR
Give me the electric player who is so dangerous with the ball in his hands. He is a threat to take it the distance on any play. He can be a huge factor in certain personnel packages like 4 wide, sharing time in the slot, and making plays in the special teams game!

5. Alex Hoffman-Ellis WLB
His measurables are great, had he played at a better school he would be very well known. He flies around the field and makes play after play.
He will be a perfect WLB and make an immediate impact on special teams.

6. Miles Burris LB
This kid from San Diego State is probably one of the best unknown studs at LB. the kid was the captain of the Aztechs defense, and loves the physicality of the game of football. He was also their leading sack producer, he is an athletic specimen hitting a back flip at his pro day before doing drills. He wants to show he can play any position in any scheme. I like him at Sam when Miller plays DE on passing downs. But Burris has some serious upside.

What do you think?

barryr
04-15-2012, 11:18 PM
Well, I thought about Jenkins in the 2nd round, but not in the first. This would be sneaky to say the least and maybe couldn't happen because of certain rules in the NFL, but I think any team drafting Jenkins should look into first about their state and if they have laws saying one can use marijuana for medical purposes. If they do, then find a doctor that would say Jenkins needs marijuana for some medical issue since it seems like the guy can't quit.

Randal would need to add like 25-30 pounds to be a true 3-4 NT and play lower more consistently. He is like 6'4-6'5, which most NT's in a 3-4 are shorter than that since better to play lower, making it harder to move off the LOS.

I like Martin and Jones is alright, though Blake may be just as good in the long run. The LB's, I don't know much about.

Bmore Manning
04-15-2012, 11:24 PM
Well, I thought about Jenkins in the 2nd round, but not in the first. This would be sneaky to say the least and maybe couldn't happen because of certain rules in the NFL, but I think any team drafting Jenkins should look into first about their state and if they have laws saying one can use marijuana for medical purposes. If they do, then find a doctor that would say Jenkins needs marijuana for some medical issue since it seems like the guy can't quit.

Randal would need to add like 25-30 pounds to be a true 3-4 NT and play lower more consistently. He is like 6'4-6'5, which most NT's in a 3-4 are shorter than that since better to play lower, making it harder to move off the LOS.

I like Martin and Jones is alright, though Blake may be just as good in the long run. The LB's, I don't know much about.

Randal played 3-4 NT in college and 4-3 NT, obviously he would be in development to be our 4-3 NT. watch some tape on him, he was a monster in the middle despite only being 300lbs, and he creates a good push.

Jenkins is a steal @25, he won't be there @57.

DBroncos4life
04-15-2012, 11:37 PM
Well, I thought about Jenkins in the 2nd round, but not in the first. This would be sneaky to say the least and maybe couldn't happen because of certain rules in the NFL, but I think any team drafting Jenkins should look into first about their state and if they have laws saying one can use marijuana for medical purposes. If they do, then find a doctor that would say Jenkins needs marijuana for some medical issue since it seems like the guy can't quit.

Randal would need to add like 25-30 pounds to be a true 3-4 NT and play lower more consistently. He is like 6'4-6'5, which most NT's in a 3-4 are shorter than that since better to play lower, making it harder to move off the LOS.

I like Martin and Jones is alright, though Blake may be just as good in the long run. The LB's, I don't know much about.

The NFL wont allow pot regardless of the state laws.

houghtam
04-15-2012, 11:40 PM
The NFL wont allow pot regardless of the state laws.

Yeah and if they did, then every team in a state with pot laws would have automatically included that in all contract language and physical exam by now.

DBroncos4life
04-15-2012, 11:51 PM
Yeah and if they did, then every team in a state with pot laws would have automatically included that in all contract language and physical exam by now.
States with no taxes laws get an advantage in FA I think states that allow pot should be allowed to as well.

Requiem
04-15-2012, 11:52 PM
He is a perfect fit for the Bengals. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82843871/article/janoris-jenkins-continued-problems-could-be-issue-on-draft-day?module=HP11_hot_topics)

Hasn't changed since he got kicked off of the Gator program. Pass.

houghtam
04-15-2012, 11:59 PM
He is a perfect fit for the Bengals. (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82843871/article/janoris-jenkins-continued-problems-could-be-issue-on-draft-day?module=HP11_hot_topics)

Hasn't changed since he got kicked off of the Gator program. Pass.

Or the Ravens. To quote Rev from the mock draft:

Even scarier? The poor ho's in Baltimore that now have to deal with Jenkins AND Jimmy Smith.

Hulamau
04-16-2012, 12:03 AM
Some nice picks Bmore but Id prefer Dre K if we go Corner in the first and we need a RB too. Although it's possible Mario Fannin is now ready to rumble after his training camp IR injury last year and has learned to control the dropsies?


He's a big Auburn bruiser back with some burst as well and can catch the ball too so he could be a real sleeper for us and is already on the team, but we still need to grab a solid RB prospect to make sure Payton has all the safety valves he needs to keep the defenses honest.

ZONA
04-16-2012, 12:14 AM
This mock is the second version of what I would do. After more indepth studying of Bronco needs, recent moves, and best chance of winning this would be my mock.

1. Janoris Jenkins CB
This is the next Randy Moss of his position. Does he have a lot of **** with him? He sure does, but his ability to play man to man coverage and make plays is undeniable. Character concerns will push him down into our waiting open arms!


He's got 1st round talent there is absolutely no question. I think Mayock said he's the best pure man to man cover CB in the draft, but not the best zone guy. With his off the field issues, man it would be a huge risk. You could end up with a stud cover guy or a guy who just ends up being a locker room nightmare who gets suspended every other year or so for substance, or other stuff. It's a tough call on this really. If he's there at #25 you have to be tempted but scared at the same time. Just because a guy is supremely gifted doesn't mean he's going to translate to a great NFL player for a long time. Just look at Dale Carter.

mhgaffney
04-16-2012, 01:42 AM
Yeah, where's the RB?

Bmore Manning
04-16-2012, 06:09 AM
Some nice picks Bmore but Id prefer Dre K if we go Corner in the first and we need a RB too. Although it's possible Mario Fannin is now ready to rumble after his training camp IR injury last year and has learned to control the dropsies?


He's a big Auburn bruiser back with some burst as well and can catch the ball too so he could be a real sleeper for us and is already on the team, but we still need to grab a solid RB prospect to make sure Payton has all the safety valves he needs to keep the defenses honest.

I don't think Kirpatrick or Gilmore will be there @25, but I would take either if they fell. And in my first mock I took a RB, but everything I have read says they like Fanin, so I carried on with that in mind.

CEH
04-16-2012, 06:22 AM
I'm not sure Jenkins will be drafted by Denver at least at #25 after the Cox trail, Kendell Ellis waiting trial (whom Denver pulled off their board after his interview) and the fact teams can face disciplinary actions for drafting character concerns. If he were clean at No Alamaba maybe but he smoked while there.

Bmore Manning
04-16-2012, 06:22 AM
Yeah, where's the RB?

From everything I have read, they are expecting big things from Fanin, therefore I did not take a RB. From what I know about Manning, RBs are a dime a dozen. So if Fanin is the specimen that his numbers give him credit to be, 5'11" 235 running under a 4.4 I see no reason why he can't be effective. Funbleitus or UDFA, he can still be effective, funbleitus is cureable ask Peterson, UDFA means nothing ask Arian Foster. I am by no means suggesting Fanin is either one, but if he was the best back in camp last year, and the FO expects a huge role for him, I expect him to split carries with McGahee, and Moreno to be the third down back.

Bmore Manning
04-16-2012, 06:23 AM
He's got 1st round talent there is absolutely no question. I think Mayock said he's the best pure man to man cover CB in the draft, but not the best zone guy. With his off the field issues, man it would be a huge risk. You could end up with a stud cover guy or a guy who just ends up being a locker room nightmare who gets suspended every other year or so for substance, or other stuff. It's a tough call on this really. If he's there at #25 you have to be tempted but scared at the same time. Just because a guy is supremely gifted doesn't mean he's going to translate to a great NFL player for a long time. Just look at Dale Carter.

Fully agree, but the skill is there and the leaders in the locker room are there, I would pull the trigger!

Bmore Manning
04-16-2012, 06:25 AM
I'm not sure Jenkins will be drafted by Denver at least at #25 after the Cox trail, Kendell Ellis waiting trial (whom Denver pulled off their board after his interview) and the fact teams can face disciplinary actions for drafting character concerns. If he were clean at No Alamaba maybe but he smoked while there.

So that means he can't be drafted? I'm not understanding that, Kirpatrick smoked, and was caught, but he's going to be drafted..

CEH
04-16-2012, 06:59 AM
So that means he can't be drafted? I'm not understanding that, Kirpatrick smoked, and was caught, but he's going to be drafted..

Never ever said he will not get drafted. BTW, Is Kirk a chronic drug user like Jenkins? Experiementing with pot in college is one thing.This isn't just about smoking pot. I'm sure someone somewhere uttered these same words two years ago "but the skill is there and the leaders in the locker room are there, I would pull the trigger! ". You might want to go read the arrest report before making those kinds of comments around here. Bowlen already has been embarrassed by McCheat and the Cox trail. I'm saying Denver would be playing with fire if they drafted Jenkins at #25 mainly because of Jenkins hiding the fact he had 3 kids from Bowden, continue to smoke pot after being kicked of the Gators due to his second drug related arrest in 3 months. will get a fixed amount of $MM at #25. Money, immaturity and charater concerns is not a good mix for a team that just went through something bad this past year.

Bmore Manning
04-16-2012, 07:06 AM
Update*

1. Michael Brockers DT
2. Mike Martin DT
3. Ben Jones C
4. T.Y. Hilton WR
4. Leonard Johnson CB
5. Alex Hoffman-Ellis WLB
6. Miles Burris LB

Rohirrim
04-16-2012, 08:09 AM
Why would any NFL team touch this guy? And I don't care what round it's in:

Jenkins was arguably the most talented player Will Muschamp inherited when he took over as the head coach of the Florida Gators in 2011. After Jenkins was arrested twice over a four-month span, Muschamp kicked him off the team and the talented cornerback elected to transfer to North Alabama. Scouts had hoped the change of scenery would force Jenkins to mature. Instead, Jenkins' poor off-field decision-making continued, a league source confirms to NFLDraftScout.com. The source cited the fact that Jenkins "kept up the partying" while at North Alabama.

Citing a personnel executive from an AFC team, NFL.com's Albert Breer reported Thursday that Jenkins was a "multiple offender of the drug policy in college, and it's not like there were no character concerns at North Alabama. He had multiple opportunities to get away from it. He didn't at Florida, and he went to North Alabama and he wasn't clean there."

For scouts, it isn't just the fact that Jenkins has repeatedly had run-ins with the police or tested positive for marijuana or even the fact that he has already fathered four children (with three different women). The concern is that Jenkins doesn't seem to be learning from the potentially disastrous behavior -- despite saying all the right things whenever anyone will listen.

Evidence that Jenkins' behavior continues to be an issue is virtually everywhere one cares to look.

Liz Mullen of the Sports Business Journal recently reported that Jenkins traveled to Las Vegas following his surprising disassociation from highly regarded agency CAA.

While a young man traveling to Vegas is certainly no crime, the timing of the trip certainly won't win Jenkins any favors with scouts who can't help but wonder if the talented cornerback can't stay away from potentially negative influences before he's given a multi-million dollar contract, how can they expect him to make better decisions once he has more money and fame?
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/18507860/janoris-jenkins-off-field-issues-continued-at-north-alabama

Are you going to be the GM that hands this idiot a couple of million dollars? Might as well hang a sign out in front of your franchise office that says, "We're not only desperate. We're stupid."

CEH
04-16-2012, 08:18 AM
We need DTs and Denver will release Ryan McBean today so that should give everyone an indication how character matters right now

oubronco
04-16-2012, 08:22 AM
We need DTs and Denver will release Ryan McBean today so that should give everyone an indication how character matters right now

Link

Frosty78
04-16-2012, 08:24 AM
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20406808/broncos-release-dt-ryan-mcbean

Bmore Manning
04-16-2012, 09:05 AM
This Jenkins issue is killing this mock... I'm going to have to edit or make a new one. I did not realize how deep the issues with him were..

orinjkrush
04-22-2012, 01:03 PM
I see the same needs as you, but I ended up putting them in a different order:

1: 25: Peter Konz (C/G) or Jerel Worthy or Devon Still (DT)...build the interiors
2: 57: Kendel Reyes (DT), Amini Silatolu, (G/T) or Trumain Johnson (S)..build the interiors
3: 87: Robert Turbin (RB) or Casey Hayword (CB)..situationals
4: 108: Tank Carder (ILB) or Omar Bolden (CB)...backups
4: 120: Ryan Miller, (G), or Audie Cole, (ILB,)...more backups
5: 137: Chris Rainey, (WR/RB/KR/PR) or Terrance Ganaway, (RB/FB), ...specialists
6: 188: Drake Dunsmore, (FB/HB/TE), ...specialists

Bronco Rob
04-22-2012, 02:40 PM
2. Mike Martin DT
This guy has really grown on me. One thing I love about him is his ability to play 3-4 NT, or either 4-3 technique. I think he has a great upside because of his relentless motor which will make him a great player in the system. He also did very well in one on one drills at the senior bowl showing he can do more than stuff the run.


3What do you think?






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bombay
04-22-2012, 02:48 PM
Whatever became of Terrence Cody.

Shananahan
04-22-2012, 02:51 PM
He's still fat.

gyldenlove
04-22-2012, 02:51 PM
Whatever became of Terrence Cody.

NT for the Ravens, plays on running downs - he is also rumoured to devour 2.8 metric tons of IHOP pancakes in one sitting.

errand
04-22-2012, 04:45 PM
Re: Janoris Jenkins.....Penn State, or the State Pen...choice is yours,where do you want your players to come from...or better yet, end up?

Broncos_OTM
04-23-2012, 12:11 AM
Update*

1. Michael Brockers DT
2. Mike Martin DT
3. Ben Jones C
4. T.Y. Hilton WR
4. Leonard Johnson CB
5. Alex Hoffman-Ellis WLB
6. Miles Burris LBno offense intended but I'd throw bricks at my TV with that draft. if we draft brokers before our second pick. I don't get why people like him horrible combine, little to no stats. yeah I'd be mad the only pick I halfway like is martin but a second rounder. blah

BroncoBen
04-23-2012, 01:05 PM
From everything I have read, they are expecting big things from Fanin, therefore I did not take a RB. From what I know about Manning, RBs are a dime a dozen. So if Fanin is the specimen that his numbers give him credit to be, 5'11" 235 running under a 4.4 I see no reason why he can't be effective. Funbleitus or UDFA, he can still be effective, funbleitus is cureable ask Peterson, UDFA means nothing ask Arian Foster. I am by no means suggesting Fanin is either one, but if he was the best back in camp last year, and the FO expects a huge role for him, I expect him to split carries with McGahee, and Moreno to be the third down back.

I was talking up Fanin so some Broncos fans last week, and as one pointed out and brought me back to earth.. If Fanin is so special how come no teams drafted him.

So I guess we will see.. but don't put a lot of faith in Fanin being the next TD.

Bmore Manning
04-23-2012, 01:32 PM
I was talking up Fanin so some Broncos fans last week, and as one pointed out and brought me back to earth.. If Fanin is so special how come no teams drafted him.

So I guess we will see.. but don't put a lot of faith in Fanin being the next TD.

Arian Foster went undrafted. There could be many circumstances and factors that affect draft stock, so I don't know why he went undrafted.

Mogulseeker
04-23-2012, 03:45 PM
I love how all these corners are dropping like flies... Kirkpatrick, Jenkins, Dennard.

This pushes the rest of the draft class down. I like character, but I wouldn't be opposed to taking advantage of this situation.

Mogulseeker
04-23-2012, 03:46 PM
When you give Janoris Jenkins a multimillion dollar contract, the **** will really hit the fan, BTW.

Tombstone RJ
04-23-2012, 06:48 PM
This mock is the second version of what I would do. After more indepth studying of Bronco needs, recent moves, and best chance of winning this would be my mock.

1. Janoris Jenkins CB
This is the next Randy Moss of his position. Does he have a lot of **** with him? He sure does, but his ability to play man to man coverage and make plays is undeniable. Character concerns will push him down into our waiting open arms!

2. Mike Martin DT
This guy has really grown on me. One thing I love about him is his ability to play 3-4 NT, or either 4-3 technique. I think he has a great upside because of his relentless motor which will make him a great player in the system. He also did very well in one on one drills at the senior bowl showing he can do more than stuff the run.

3. Ben Jones C
Nothing about his combine performance will blow you away, but everything he does on the field is so right. He plays so nasty and has all the intangibles to make it at the next level.

4. Kheeston Randal DT
One of the better unknowns at the DT position, much like Martin, Randal has versatility to play 3-4 NT, or either 4-3 technique. His motor is relentless and plays with such great leverage making him stout at the point of attack. Able to free up linebackers and DEs because of his ability to demand a double team.

4. Ty Hilton WR
Give me the electric player who is so dangerous with the ball in his hands. He is a threat to take it the distance on any play. He can be a huge factor in certain personnel packages like 4 wide, sharing time in the slot, and making plays in the special teams game!

5. Alex Hoffman-Ellis WLB
His measurables are great, had he played at a better school he would be very well known. He flies around the field and makes play after play.
He will be a perfect WLB and make an immediate impact on special teams.

6. Miles Burris LB
This kid from San Diego State is probably one of the best unknown studs at LB. the kid was the captain of the Aztechs defense, and loves the physicality of the game of football. He was also their leading sack producer, he is an athletic specimen hitting a back flip at his pro day before doing drills. He wants to show he can play any position in any scheme. I like him at Sam when Miller plays DE on passing downs. But Burris has some serious upside.

What do you think?

So he's like a jumbo shrimp, yes?