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Requiem
04-12-2012, 09:20 AM
Here is a thread for the prospects the Broncos are bringing in through the evaluation process. Each team can meet with up to 30 prospects. Feel free to add to this thread when you find a link or article with confirmation and I'll update the master list on this initial post!

Quarterbacks

Kirk Cousins, QB -- Michigan State
Brock Osweiler, QB -- Arizona State
Ryan Lindley, QB -- San Diego State (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20403566/broncos-bringing-qb-prospects-nfl-draft-including-cousins)
Russell Wilson, QB -- Wisconsin (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/2012-draft-visits-and-workout-tracker/)

Running Backs

Robert Turbin, RB -- Utah State (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=turbin%20to%20vist%20broncos&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.denverpost.com%2Fbroncos%2F 2012%2F04%2F11%2Futah-state-rb-robin-turbin-visit-broncos%2F12982%2F&ei=oACHT7S9Oee78QG_kfnBCA&usg=AFQjCNH94Uo3HvrcVHEzy37VymNoViPM4w&cad=rja)

Offensive Lineman

Levy Adock, OT -- Oklahoma State
Austin Wuebbel, OG -- Missouri
(http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/2012-draft-visits-and-workout-tracker/)
Defensive Tackles

Jerel Worthy, DT -- Michigan State (Per NFL Network Interview)
Kendall Reyes, DT -- Connecticut (http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20403566/broncos-bringing-qb-prospects-nfl-draft-including-cousins)

maher_tyler
04-12-2012, 09:21 AM
Here is a thread for the prospects the Broncos are bringing in through the evaluation process. Each team can meet with up to 30 prospects. Feel free to add to this thread when you find a link or article with confirmation and I'll update the master list on this initial post!

Robert Turbin, RB -- Utah State (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=turbin%20to%20vist%20broncos&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.denverpost.com%2Fbroncos%2F 2012%2F04%2F11%2Futah-state-rb-robin-turbin-visit-broncos%2F12982%2F&ei=oACHT7S9Oee78QG_kfnBCA&usg=AFQjCNH94Uo3HvrcVHEzy37VymNoViPM4w&cad=rja)
Jerel Worthy, DT -- Michigan State (Per NFL Network Interview)

:thumbsup:

Gcver2ver3
04-12-2012, 09:50 AM
I'd be curious what the list was last year to get a feel for how closely we followed the list in last year's draft...

Dont feel like looking it up....

Kaylore
04-12-2012, 09:51 AM
Been waiting for this thread.

Requiem
04-12-2012, 09:57 AM
I'd be curious what the list was last year to get a feel for how closely we followed the list in last year's draft...

Dont feel like looking it up....

I couldn't find the thread for 2011's on here (maybe there wasn't?) -- but I found 2010. Alas, here is the 2011 list of players from MHR (http://www.milehighreport.com/2011/3/23/2068253/denver-broncos-private-workout-team-visit-official-list).

Von Miller, Quinton Carter and Julius Thomas were all selections of ours who we brought in privately.

Dexter
04-12-2012, 10:00 AM
Didn't Osweiler come in for a visit? I'm not sure.

Requiem
04-12-2012, 10:04 AM
Didn't Osweiler come in for a visit? I'm not sure.

They went to ASU to workout him privately. I'm not sure if them going there counts as one of their 30 visits they can have with people at the facility in Dove Valley.

DBroncos4life
04-12-2012, 10:09 AM
I'm going to sit on a roof and refuse to eat till they bring in LaVonte David in for a visit. Maybe even put up some billboards. :P

Gcver2ver3
04-12-2012, 10:23 AM
I couldn't find the thread for 2011's on here (maybe there wasn't?) -- but I found 2010. Alas, here is the 2011 list of players from MHR (http://www.milehighreport.com/2011/3/23/2068253/denver-broncos-private-workout-team-visit-official-list).

Von Miller, Quinton Carter and Julius Thomas were all selections of ours who we brought in privately.

Good info, preciate it...

broncocalijohn
04-12-2012, 10:25 AM
I'm going to sit on a roof and refuse to eat till they bring in LaVonte David in for a visit. Maybe even put up some billboards. :P

Then obviously he is going to the Jets.

DBroncos4life
04-12-2012, 10:33 AM
Then obviously he is going to the Jets.

I would hate Rex Ryan even more then! Hilarious!

Heyneck
04-12-2012, 10:56 AM
Go TURBIN!!! Pulling for you to come here!!! Hope we get you somehow somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd!!!!

Bmore Manning
04-12-2012, 10:56 AM
I'm going to sit on a roof and refuse to eat till they bring in LaVonte David in for a visit. Maybe even put up some billboards. :P

I like David, do you think he lasts to our second round pick?

Goobzilla
04-12-2012, 11:04 AM
Charles Davis of NFL Network had us selecting Worthy in this mock
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts/charles-davis/130103?pickId=2533049

DBroncos4life
04-12-2012, 11:12 AM
I like David, do you think he lasts to our second round pick?

Doubtful, too much of a play maker. Plus his coverage skills make him way valuable in today's TE happy NFL.

Bmore Manning
04-12-2012, 11:13 AM
Worthy better step his game up if he's going to be the pick @25...

Bmore Manning
04-12-2012, 11:15 AM
Doubtful, too much of a play maker. Plus his coverage skills make him way valuable in today's TE happy NFL.

He's fast enough with great fluid hips to cover most slot WRs. Im liking the idea of a trade down hopefully for some value a second and third. But I would use the early second on him!

Frosty78
04-12-2012, 01:31 PM
I read somewhere that they have already had Lavon Brazill in for a visit, but I can't remember where I read it.

OrangeSe7en
04-12-2012, 03:27 PM
Charles Davis of NFL Network had us selecting Worthy in this mock
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts/charles-davis/130103?pickId=2533049

Where are the other 6 rounds?

Lestat
04-12-2012, 04:04 PM
if we pass on Mercilus,Konz or Martin for Worthy i'm gonna be pissed.
that dude has bust written all over him.
Charles Davis of NFL Network had us selecting Worthy in this mock
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts/charles-davis/130103?pickId=2533049

Bmore Manning
04-12-2012, 04:12 PM
if we pass on Mercilus,Konz or Martin for Worthy i'm gonna be pissed.
that dude has bust written all over him.

I'm with you, He is a hit or miss kind of player with a below average motor. I like high motors and consistency from guys in the trenches..
I see better prospects out there than Worthy...

g6matty
04-12-2012, 05:26 PM
yesssssssssssss robert turbin and jerel worthy are monsters. although id love to see Devon Still here worthy is on the same level

barryr
04-12-2012, 08:06 PM
Reyes has a much better chance at being more than just a space eater. Reyes is about the same size, but quicker and stronger and is closer to Fletcher Cox(the one I would want) physically than the others at DT. Worthy will be fortunate to be as good a player as Bunkley. I'd rather the Broncos moved down in the draft than taking Worthy at 25.

CEH
04-14-2012, 06:06 AM
Anyone know about Austin Wuebbels G from Mizzou

barryr
04-14-2012, 06:12 AM
Anyone know about Austin Wuebbels G from Mizzou

He is seen more as a 7th round pick at best, or not even to be drafted. Played mostly RG in college, but played a little LG earlier in his career. Ran a slow 40 time, but considered very strong, can lift a ton.

CEH
04-14-2012, 06:17 AM
He is seen more as a 7th round pick at best, or not even to be drafted. Played mostly RG in college, but played a little LG earlier in his career. Ran a slow 40 time, but considered very strong, can lift a ton.

The next draft prospect scheduled to work out for the Denver Broncos is Missouri’s Austin Wuebbels. A 6-4, 300 lb. Offensive Guard, Wuebbels was a three year starter for the Tigers, with 38 consecutive games as their Right Guard

A backup plan for Kuper I would guess.

barryr
04-14-2012, 06:20 AM
The next draft prospect scheduled to work out for the Denver Broncos is Missouri’s Austin Wuebbels. A 6-4, 300 lb. Offensive Guard, Wuebbels was a three year starter for the Tigers, with 38 consecutive games as their Right Guard

A backup plan for Kuper I would guess.

I wonder about his quickness and athleticism, especially since he played on a good team in a good conference yet is that lowly graded. Something must be keeping him as a 7th/UFA type. He could be a hidden gem or too slow for the NFL.

Bronco Boy
04-16-2012, 06:08 AM
Kirk Cousins and Ryan Lindley are both visiting this week, per the Denver Post.

TonyR
04-16-2012, 06:26 AM
Jeff Legwold reiterates the Broncos' interest in Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden and ASU QB Brock Osweiler, and he says the team plans to host Badgers QB Russell Wilson before the draft. Plus, he says the team is still considering adding Dennis Dixon to compete with Caleb Hanie and Adam Weber behind Peyton Manning.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-daily-lard-4-16-12


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20403160/broncos-far-from-settled-at-qb-behind-peyton

Lestat
04-16-2012, 06:31 AM
doesn't shock me. i fully expected the team to draft a QB semi early this season. they're not gonna have Manning without a potential successor. he's only signed for 5 years and should he play out that contract he might retire or would likely only play another 2 years after that.

got to have someone to develop behind him. Osweiler,Coleman,Wilson,Lindley are types that could be a good QB in the future.

peacepipe
04-16-2012, 06:34 AM
Jeff Legwold reiterates the Broncos' interest in Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden and ASU QB Brock Osweiler, and he says the team plans to host Badgers QB Russell Wilson before the draft. Plus, he says the team is still considering adding Dennis Dixon to compete with Caleb Hanie and Adam Weber behind Peyton Manning.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-daily-lard-4-16-12


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20403160/broncos-far-from-settled-at-qb-behind-peyton

I can see bringing in russell wilson as a smoke screen of some sort but to actually draft him would be a mistake. as far as weeden is concerned he'll be 34/35 yrs old by the time he gets his chance.

oswieler seems like the best option but may go higher than what denver is willing to pick at QB.

pricejj
04-16-2012, 07:45 AM
Kendall Reyes visited the Broncos on 4/13.

TonyR
04-16-2012, 08:07 AM
Greg Cosell on Lindley:

The San Diego State quarterback was a compelling study. He ran a pro offense, with the focus on five- and seven-step drops, and play action. No quarterback I evaluated attempted, and made, more big-time intermediate to deeper NFL-type throws. He was very decisive as a pocket passer. The ball came out without hesitation. If you spliced together his 25 best throws from the 2011 season — and did the same for all the passers in this draft — Lindley would have the biggest “wow” factor, without question.

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/04/10/cosell-talks-diamonds-in-the-rough/

Requiem
04-16-2012, 12:13 PM
Updated!

Tombstone RJ
04-16-2012, 12:16 PM
Greg Cosell on Lindley:

The San Diego State quarterback was a compelling study. He ran a pro offense, with the focus on five- and seven-step drops, and play action. No quarterback I evaluated attempted, and made, more big-time intermediate to deeper NFL-type throws. He was very decisive as a pocket passer. The ball came out without hesitation. If you spliced together his 25 best throws from the 2011 season — and did the same for all the passers in this draft — Lindley would have the biggest “wow” factor, without question.

http://nflfilms.nfl.com/2012/04/10/cosell-talks-diamonds-in-the-rough/

This is why I think he'll go on the first day. There are no secrets in the NFL anymore, not with teams desperate to find a franchise QB.

BroncoMan4ever
04-16-2012, 12:30 PM
I'd be curious what the list was last year to get a feel for how closely we followed the list in last year's draft...

Dont feel like looking it up....

i seem to recall that the team had spoken to every one of the draft picks at some point. it wasn't the Shanahan style to have no contact with the player and then call up a rival coach and ask what he thought of that particular player. they met with and learned about each of their picks.

i honestly would bet on our draft picks being guys who are high character and strong leaders. all our picks last season were team captains in college, so i would expect similar types of players being drafted this year

look for character and leadership and we should be able to narrow down who will end up being Broncos in the next couple weeks.

Heyneck
04-16-2012, 12:33 PM
Jeff Legwold reiterates the Broncos' interest in Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden and ASU QB Brock Osweiler, and he says the team plans to host Badgers QB Russell Wilson before the draft. Plus, he says the team is still considering adding Dennis Dixon to compete with Caleb Hanie and Adam Weber behind Peyton Manning.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-daily-lard-4-16-12


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20403160/broncos-far-from-settled-at-qb-behind-peyton

So wait... since the FO is looking at all this QBs... does that mean the FO doesn't believe in Peyton???

DBroncos4life
04-16-2012, 12:37 PM
So wait... since the FO is looking at all this QBs... does that mean the FO doesn't believe in Peyton???

Yes

broncosteven
04-16-2012, 12:41 PM
Jeff Legwold reiterates the Broncos' interest in Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden and ASU QB Brock Osweiler, and he says the team plans to host Badgers QB Russell Wilson before the draft. Plus, he says the team is still considering adding Dennis Dixon to compete with Caleb Hanie and Adam Weber behind Peyton Manning.

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-daily-lard-4-16-12


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20403160/broncos-far-from-settled-at-qb-behind-peyton

Isn't he more of a Tebow type QB? Very athletic but inaccurate?

Everytime I see his name I have flash backs to puberty fantasy's of Donna Dixon.

BroncoMan4ever
04-16-2012, 12:42 PM
So wait... since the FO is looking at all this QBs... does that mean the FO doesn't believe in Peyton???

Hilarious!
oh my god when will the QB carousel madness in Denver end?
Hilarious!

DBroncos4life
04-16-2012, 12:44 PM
Since Manning said first round draft picks should start from day one I wouldn't expect a QB too early.

sgbfan
04-16-2012, 12:46 PM
doesn't shock me. i fully expected the team to draft a QB semi early this season. they're not gonna have Manning without a potential successor. he's only signed for 5 years and should he play out that contract he might retire or would likely only play another 2 years after that.

got to have someone to develop behind him. Osweiler,Coleman,Wilson,Lindley are types that could be a good QB in the future.

I would be upset if they picked one up before the 7th round. If they think Peyton will play out his 5 years, no need to draft a "replacement" until 2 or 3 years from now. Anyone drafted in the first 3 rounds should be ready to go in 2-3 years. Pick players in the first 3-4 rounds that can start in the next 1-2 years.

Lestat
04-16-2012, 12:54 PM
umm no, his accuracy is fine, his knocks are QB instincts and size.
he's 5-11 and 204 lbs. he's athletic as heck but he's also the type to roam around too much and get himself hurt.
Isn't he more of a Tebow type QB? Very athletic but inaccurate?

Everytime I see his name I have flash backs to puberty fantasy's of Donna Dixon.

Lestat
04-16-2012, 12:56 PM
I would be upset if they picked one up before the 7th round. If they think Peyton will play out his 5 years, no need to draft a "replacement" until 2 or 3 years from now. Anyone drafted in the first 3 rounds should be ready to go in 2-3 years. Pick players in the first 3-4 rounds that can start in the next 1-2 years.

this is exactly what got the Colts in trouble. Peyton is getting older and coming off a injury concern. you don't go and ignore the QB position when you can develop a guy behind him. the Colts never drafted a QB higher than the 6th, never signed a good back up and then he went down and their team was exposed and went to hell.

the Broncos have to build up the entire team around Peyton. that means the QB position as well.

BroncoMan4ever
04-16-2012, 01:29 PM
I would be upset if they picked one up before the 7th round. If they think Peyton will play out his 5 years, no need to draft a "replacement" until 2 or 3 years from now. Anyone drafted in the first 3 rounds should be ready to go in 2-3 years. Pick players in the first 3-4 rounds that can start in the next 1-2 years.

while the team is hopeful that Peyton can finish the full 5 years on the deal, the team is probably expecting to need to look elsewhere after year 3.

look at the Colts last season, they were so sure they had Peyton, that they never bothered to invest anything in the backups and it tanked them completely. by drafting a nobody in the 7th or UDFA more than likely you are getting a guy who can hold a clip board but can't play. if the team is serious about grooming a guy to take over, it needs to be someone with some talent and ability and to acquire that most likely it will need to happen in the middle rounds at the latest. i still won't be shocked if Osweiler is the pick in the 2nd, but would bank more on Foles, Cousins or Lindley in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Heyneck
04-16-2012, 01:33 PM
this is exactly what got the Colts in trouble. Peyton is getting older and coming off a injury concern. you don't go and ignore the QB position when you can develop a guy behind him. the Colts never drafted a QB higher than the 6th, never signed a good back up and then he went down and their team was exposed and went to hell.

the Broncos have to build up the entire team around Peyton. that means the QB position as well.

Specially when we have Haine as backup...

Lestat
04-16-2012, 01:39 PM
the thought that he's the savior if Manning goes down scares the living,dead,undead,holy,unholy,spiritual and non spiritual crap out of me.
Specially when we have Haine as backup...

cmhargrove
04-16-2012, 01:43 PM
I am pretty excited about the Adcock visit. The dude isn't up there in everyone's "draft rankings," but he is a hell of an offensive lineman. Big body, good feet, great pass blocker, road grader in the run game. This dude would be a sensational pickup. If I remember correctly, he posted one season at LT with zero sacks. Playing in the big 12 as a LT in a pass happy offense at Oklahoma State - that is pretty damn impressive.

He is hands down a better Tackle (pass blocker) than Franklin will ever be, and probably just as good of a run blocker (probably a better technician). He could easily be "the guy" to come take the RT spot, and send Franklin in to LG. That would be exciting.

I would love to hear that name on draft day.

Lestat
04-16-2012, 01:47 PM
he's coming off a injury but his draft stock is considered to be low 6th to UDFA.
don't really see him beating out Franklin just yet.
I am pretty excited about the Adcock visit. The dude isn't up there in everyone's "draft rankings," but he is a hell of an offensive lineman. Big body, good feet, great pass blocker, road grader in the run game. This dude would be a sensational pickup. If I remember correctly, he posted one season at LT with zero sacks. Playing in the big 12 as a LT in a pass happy offense at Oklahoma State - that is pretty damn impressive.

He is hands down a better Tackle (pass blocker) than Franklin will ever be, and probably just as good of a run blocker (probably a better technician). He could easily be "the guy" to come take the RT spot, and send Franklin in to LG. That would be exciting.

I would love to hear that name on draft day.

DBroncos4life
04-16-2012, 01:53 PM
I'm just going to point out Denver has never won a Super Bowl without a Husker on the front 7.

BroncoMan4ever
04-16-2012, 02:43 PM
I'm just going to point out Denver has never won a Super Bowl without a Husker on the front 7.

i don't remember the colleges of our past players. which player in the front 7 was a Corn Shucker?

peacepipe
04-16-2012, 03:04 PM
Isn't he more of a Tebow type QB? Very athletic but inaccurate?

Everytime I see his name I have flash backs to puberty fantasy's of Donna Dixon.

I think denver will steer clear of russell wilson.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed...ring-practices



Quote:
After a great senior season in which he led Wisconsin to the Rose Bowl, Wilson did not fare as well at the Senior Bowl. It started off badly when he measured under 5-11, and then he struggled with accuracy throughout the week. He showed good mechanics to get rid of the ball quickly and a very strong arm to make every NFL throw without a problem. However, teams can’t ignore his height and lack of consistency as a pocket passer. He likely won’t be drafted because his performance this week showed that he will be, at best, a backup quarterback in the NFL
remind you of anyone. anyway at 5' 101/2" he will be lucky to get drafted.

Requiem
04-16-2012, 03:09 PM
I think denver will steer clear of russell wilson.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed...ring-practices



Quote:

remind you of anyone. anyway at 5' 101/2" he will be lucky to get drafted.

He is going to get drafted easily. Whether or not he will ever be a consistent, every game starter is the question. No doubt he can stick with a team like Seneca Wallace and be their back-up. There is little about his game to hate on than his lack of size. He is a solid player.

peacepipe
04-16-2012, 03:14 PM
He is going to get drafted easily. Whether or not he will ever be a consistent, every game starter is the question. No doubt he can stick with a team like Seneca Wallace and be their back-up. There is little about his game to hate on than his lack of size. He is a solid player.

what round?

Lestat
04-16-2012, 03:18 PM
we've also never won a SB without a Stanford Cardinal at QB or a Georgia Bulldog at RB. Kwoshon Moreno isn't about to become Terrell Davis anytime soon.
I'm just going to point out Denver has never won a Super Bowl without a Husker on the front 7.

Requiem
04-16-2012, 03:19 PM
Probably the fifth.

Lestat
04-16-2012, 03:20 PM
depends on if a team falls in love with him. no earlier than the 4th but no later than mid 5th. the Packers supposedly love him and want him to fall so they can snatch him up to backup Rodgers.
what round?

DBroncos4life
04-16-2012, 03:58 PM
i don't remember the colleges of our past players. which player in the front 7 was a Corn Shucker?

Neil Smith.

DBroncos4life
04-16-2012, 03:59 PM
we've also never won a SB without a Stanford Cardinal at QB or a Georgia Bulldog at RB. Kwoshon Moreno isn't about to become Terrell Davis anytime soon.

HOF QB Elway....HOF QB Manning. All we need now is a Husker. :P

Lestat
04-16-2012, 04:02 PM
so long as it's not Crick or not Crick before the 3rd round i'm good.
HOF QB Elway....HOF QB Manning. All we need now is a Husker. :P

Bmore Manning
04-16-2012, 04:03 PM
HOF QB Elway....HOF QB Manning. All we need now is a Husker. :P

Lavonte David would work.

peacepipe
04-16-2012, 04:20 PM
ehhh 6th rd at the earliest,if drafted.

lonestar
04-16-2012, 04:30 PM
doesn't shock me. i fully expected the team to draft a QB semi early this season. they're not gonna have Manning without a potential successor. he's only signed for 5 years and should he play out that contract he might retire or would likely only play another 2 years after that.

got to have someone to develop behind him. Osweiler,Coleman,Wilson,Lindley are types that could be a good QB in the future.

Unless Manning has had a change in life he takes all the snaps. PEriod.

So taking someone that will sit behind him for his career here it makes zero sense to bring in a big name QB. Unless he only plans to play a couple years or EFX knows something they are not saying.

Lestat
04-16-2012, 04:42 PM
Unless Manning has had a change in life he takes all the snaps. PEriod.

So taking someone that will sit behind him for his career here it makes zero sense to bring in a big name QB. Unless he only plans to play a couple years or EFX knows something they are not saying.

just because you have a stud doesn't mean you don't draft a quality back up. you don't wanna get caught with your pants down and end up with a lost season. whether he takes every snap or not is irrelevant, you still have to have a legit contingency plan in place in case the worst happens.
you prepare for the worst but hope for the best, you don't neglect and say **** it, that's not likely to happen.

sgbfan
04-17-2012, 12:48 AM
this is exactly what got the Colts in trouble. Peyton is getting older and coming off a injury concern. you don't go and ignore the QB position when you can develop a guy behind him. the Colts never drafted a QB higher than the 6th, never signed a good back up and then he went down and their team was exposed and went to hell.

the Broncos have to build up the entire team around Peyton. that means the QB position as well.

while the team is hopeful that Peyton can finish the full 5 years on the deal, the team is probably expecting to need to look elsewhere after year 3.

look at the Colts last season, they were so sure they had Peyton, that they never bothered to invest anything in the backups and it tanked them completely. by drafting a nobody in the 7th or UDFA more than likely you are getting a guy who can hold a clip board but can't play. if the team is serious about grooming a guy to take over, it needs to be someone with some talent and ability and to acquire that most likely it will need to happen in the middle rounds at the latest. i still won't be shocked if Osweiler is the pick in the 2nd, but would bank more on Foles, Cousins or Lindley in the 3rd-5th rounds.

I would be OK if it was in the 5th round or later actually, but not before then. This team has way too many holes and depth issues to win without Peyton. If they are expecting him for 3 years, then get someone next year. Broncos put 20 million a year towards winning now (in the next 3-5 years). Lets spend the higher picks this year on players who have a better chance of helping us do that.

When was the last time a team drafted a developemental QB in rounds 2-5 that ended up being good? Rodgers was a potential top ten pick that dropped to 24. Ryan Fitzpatric, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, Matt Flynn and Matt Hasselbach were all drafted in the 6th or later. Drew Brees was picked in the 2nd, but it was the first pick in the second, essentially a first rounder. Schaub, Orton, and Yates are the best of the 2-5 rounders I could find that are currently playing.

uplink
04-17-2012, 06:44 AM
look at the Colts last season, they were so sure they had Peyton, that they never bothered to invest anything in the backups and it tanked them completely. by drafting a nobody in the 7th or UDFA more than likely you are getting a guy who can hold a clip board but can't play. if the team is serious about grooming a guy to take over, it needs to be someone with some talent and ability and to acquire that most likely it will need to happen in the middle rounds at the latest. i still won't be shocked if Osweiler is the pick in the 2nd, but would bank more on Foles, Cousins or Lindley in the 3rd-5th rounds.

Some guys lost their jobs in Indy due to not having decent back-up QBs. I think Elway and company and the whole league got that lesson.

OrangeSe7en
04-17-2012, 07:37 AM
Some guys lost their jobs in Indy due to not having decent back-up QBs. I think Elway and company and the whole league got that lesson.

Is Elway going to fire himself?

Bmore Manning
04-17-2012, 07:50 AM
I'm really really wondering why so few prospects have been brought in just over a week before the draft. Normally a lot of UDFA prospects are brought in with those visits in an attempt to lure them in without using a draft pick. But just eight players... What gives? And why haven't a **** ton of DTs been brought in?Only Reyes and Worthy....

jhns
04-17-2012, 07:54 AM
I'm really really wondering why so few prospects have been brought in just over a week before the draft. Normally a lot of UDFA prospects are brought in with those visits in an attempt to lure them in without using a draft pick. But just eight players... What gives? And why haven't a **** ton of DTs been brought in?Only Reyes and Worthy....

They aren't putting out press releases for every prospect they bring in. Even the original post is confiming some through random mentions in interviews. We don't know how many they have brought in.

Tombstone RJ
04-17-2012, 08:00 AM
I'm really really wondering why so few prospects have been brought in just over a week before the draft. Normally a lot of UDFA prospects are brought in with those visits in an attempt to lure them in without using a draft pick. But just eight players... What gives? And why haven't a **** ton of DTs been brought in?Only Reyes and Worthy....

I like the guys they have brought in so far, especially Turbin. I also think Cousins can be a solid backup QB. Reyes is nice and obviously Worthy is worth a look as the Broncos know both will probably be available in the late first and definitely in the second.

I don't see Osweiler being on the Broncos radar and Lindley will probably get drafted before Cousins. However both Cousins and Lindley worked in pro style offenses.

CEH
04-18-2012, 05:27 AM
Today is the last day propects can visit teams. Denver seems pretty hush hush up til this point.

Heard from a Blitzing Dog Denver has contacted Ryan Davis DE Bethune Cookman. 12 sacks and 21 TFL last year.

Drek
04-18-2012, 06:35 AM
I like the guys they have brought in so far, especially Turbin.

Turbin is exactly the kind of all purpose back they need to be looking for. He and Martin are great all purpose fits for this team, letting McGahee and Moreno be the short yardage and 3rd down backs respectively while we develop Turbin/Martin into an Edgerrin James in his prime type of safety valve for Manning (~50-60 receptions for ~9.0 YPC and >500 yards receiving).

We saw what Forte has done to the NFL the last few years by catching safe little screens from Cutler and making something happen with them. The lack of quality tackling in most secondaries lets well rounded backs like him cause havoc when they get the ball on the wings. No one could exploit that quite like Manning, so we need to give him a weapon to do just that.

TonyR
04-18-2012, 06:49 AM
Klis says Washington RB Chris Polk is among Denver's top-five rated RB prospects, as is BSU's Doug Martin...

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-daily-lard-4-18-12

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2012/04/17/rb-chris-polk-broncos-draft-board/13003/

ludo21
04-18-2012, 07:50 AM
Klis says Washington RB Chris Polk is among Denver's top-five rated RB prospects, as is BSU's Doug Martin...

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-daily-lard-4-18-12

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2012/04/17/rb-chris-polk-broncos-draft-board/13003/

either would fit here

Drek
04-18-2012, 08:52 AM
Klis says Washington RB Chris Polk is among Denver's top-five rated RB prospects, as is BSU's Doug Martin...

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-daily-lard-4-18-12

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2012/04/17/rb-chris-polk-broncos-draft-board/13003/

Well rounded RBs who can catch. Good to see the FO has their eyes on the right kind of RB, not a Lamar Miller/David Wilson speedy but one dimensional type.

OrangeSe7en
04-18-2012, 10:52 AM
Well rounded RBs who can catch. Good to see the FO has their eyes on the right kind of RB, not a Lamar Miller/David Wilson speedy but one dimensional type.

Who says Miller and Wilson aren't also in their top 5? Keep in mind that this information is coming from the same guy who said the Broncos might take Miller at 25.

Requiem
04-18-2012, 12:08 PM
Who says Miller and Wilson aren't also in their top 5? Keep in mind that this information is coming from the same guy who said the Broncos might take Miller at 25.

I talked to Shane Hallam @ NFL Draft Countdown (have known him for years) and the Broncos are IN LOVE with Miller. He is there guy behind Richardson, who everyone knows won't be there for them. It isn't just a re-iteration of what Cecil has said.

If I had to guess the board right now looks like:

Richardson, Miller, Martin, Wilson and Polk. The last two could be interchangeable, but I'm fairly confident that would be it. Seems like the most likely scenario based on the overall grades of the players.

BroncoSexyDaddy
04-18-2012, 12:09 PM
I would be ok with Devin Still,Dont'a Hightower,or Coby Fleener at #25

cmhargrove
04-18-2012, 01:12 PM
Klis says Washington RB Chris Polk is among Denver's top-five rated RB prospects, as is BSU's Doug Martin...

http://www.itsalloverfatman.com/broncos/entry/the-daily-lard-4-18-12

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2012/04/17/rb-chris-polk-broncos-draft-board/13003/

I'm not trying to be a butthead, but wouldn't these guys be on every team's "top 5 RB prospect list?"

Drek
04-18-2012, 01:23 PM
Who says Miller and Wilson aren't also in their top 5? Keep in mind that this information is coming from the same guy who said the Broncos might take Miller at 25.

I'd think at least one of them is out if they liked Turbin after working him out.

Richardson, Martin, Polk, Turbin = 4 of 5.

So I'd assume the other guy is Miller. Which I'm not crazy about. Hopefully the Miller wanking earlier was a smoke screen.

BroncoMan4ever
04-18-2012, 01:28 PM
I'm not trying to be a butthead, but wouldn't these guys be on every team's "top 5 RB prospect list?"

not necessarily. considering what the players strengths are that a team may be looking for. for teams wanting speed, Miller, Wilson and James may be the targets, for power, Richardson, Martin and Turbin. just depends what each team is wanting its RBs to do.

Bmore Manning
04-18-2012, 01:28 PM
I really wish that we knew who came in to the facility. That's a good time to target UDFAs, and get and idea of players Denver likes and draft direction. I didn't hear of any LBs just a handful of Tackles/Guards, D Tackles, and QBs mainly..

Requiem
04-18-2012, 03:20 PM
I'd think at least one of them is out if they liked Turbin after working him out.

Richardson, Martin, Polk, Turbin = 4 of 5.

So I'd assume the other guy is Miller. Which I'm not crazy about. Hopefully the Miller wanking earlier was a smoke screen.

Drek, I can tell you confidently that it is not. I don't think the Broncos would burn a #25 on Miller, but if they could trade down into the top of round two, I can guarantee he would be selected.

I think the Broncos wish is Kirkpatrick, but I think that he could be gone to the Lions, though their preference is to trade down and take Silatolu.

Lestat
04-18-2012, 03:47 PM
i hope not, Miller is gonna be a stud in the NFL. i wouldn't pick him at #25 because the value dictates that every RB not named Richardson should go in round 2 or lower.


I'd think at least one of them is out if they liked Turbin after working him out.

Richardson, Martin, Polk, Turbin = 4 of 5.

So I'd assume the other guy is Miller. Which I'm not crazy about. Hopefully the Miller wanking earlier was a smoke screen.

pricejj
04-19-2012, 10:25 AM
The last day for visits was Wednesday, and you could only find 9 guys that you needed to take a closer look at EFX?...and 4 of them were QB's??

The Steelers and Patriots used all of their 30 visits, on prospects throughout the draft, in an attempt to answer some questions that they may have had about certain prospects.

You mean to tell me there weren't any questions about ANY other prospects that you might have had? I suspect there won't be any busts then, because you already seem to know all of the information about the prospects you will be drafting.

Crack job, EFX, crack job. ???

CEH
04-19-2012, 10:28 AM
The last day for visits was Wednesday, and you could only find 9 guys that you needed to take a closer look at EFX?...and 4 of them were QB's??

The Steelers and Patriots used all of their 30 visits, on prospects throughout the draft, in an attempt to answer some questions that they may have had about certain prospects.

You mean to tell me there weren't any questions about ANY other prospects that you might have had? I suspect there won't be any busts then, because you already seem to know all of the information about the prospects you will be drafting.

Crack job, EFX, crack job. ???

Last year Denver eliminated Kenrick Ellis after his formal interview.

I wouldn't be too concerned the information is not available on the internet machine

lonestar
04-19-2012, 10:33 AM
The last day for visits was Wednesday, and you could only find 9 guys that you needed to take a closer look at EFX?...and 4 of them were QB's??

The Steelers and Patriots used all of their 30 visits, on prospects throughout the draft, in an attempt to answer some questions that they may have had about certain prospects.

You mean to tell me there weren't any questions about ANY other prospects that you might have had? I suspect there won't be any busts then, because you already seem to know all of the information about the prospects you will be drafting.

Crack job, EFX, crack job. ???

I'm guessing you forgot all the one on ones they had at their individual pro days and combine..

as well as private meetings that some coaches and coordinators went to.

If last years draft is any indication on how well this one will be I'm not overly concerned..

Got to remember that mikey rarely had any of the top prospects in draft day was a total surprise for everyone.. paranoia as well as DAFT incompetence at its best..

pricejj
04-19-2012, 10:35 AM
1. 4 of them were QB's - none of whom will see the field, unless crap goes drastically wrong with Manning, in which case, it would be better to lose out.
2. 2 of them were DT's - Both would be a reach at #25, and have relatively low college production.
3. 1 was an RB - Turbin...had an ACL, got stoned on the goal line in his last Bowl Game...and couldn't pick up a 1st down late in the game in order to keep the drive alive.
4. 2 were OL - Considered late round draft picks or UDFA's...although I would spend a 6th on Adcock.

Guess they don't have any questions about any of the top 30 prospects in the draft...or any of the top 100 prospects (outside of Reyes and Worthy).

Hilarious!

Drek
04-19-2012, 11:21 AM
1. 4 of them were QB's - none of whom will see the field, unless crap goes drastically wrong with Manning, in which case, it would be better to lose out.
2. 2 of them were DT's - Both would be a reach at #25, and have relatively low college production.
3. 1 was an RB - Turbin...had an ACL, got stoned on the goal line in his last Bowl Game...and couldn't pick up a 1st down late in the game in order to keep the drive alive.
4. 2 were OL - Considered late round draft picks or UDFA's...although I would spend a 6th on Adcock.

Guess they don't have any questions about any of the top 30 prospects in the draft...or any of the top 100 prospects (outside of Reyes and Worthy).

Hilarious!

Most teams don't go out and announce who they've brought in you know. The team would prefer to keep it quiet, but guys do interviews this time of year. I'd assume they used all 30 visits and have managed to keep a tight lid on the rest of the names.

pricejj
04-19-2012, 11:28 AM
Most teams don't go out and announce who they've brought in you know. The team would prefer to keep it quiet, but guys do interviews this time of year. I'd assume they used all 30 visits and have managed to keep a tight lid on the rest of the names.

I certainly hope so. I'm not sure how we have managed to be so incognito, when most other teams haven't been able to hide.

DBroncos4life
04-19-2012, 11:40 AM
I certainly hope so. I'm not sure how we have managed to be so incognito, when most other teams haven't been able to hide.

You hope so? Do you really think teams want other teams having a clue they are looking to draft? Why take the risk to be jumped on draft day? There is a reason why they leak names and we call them smoke screen.

Drek
04-19-2012, 11:40 AM
I certainly hope so. I'm not sure how we have managed to be so incognito, when most other teams haven't been able to hide.

Depends who you're looking at.

No one asks the 4th/5th round types who's been talking to them. We happen to have two 4th round picks. Its entirely possible we're spending much more effort looking at under the radar types the FO identified on film well in advance. Instead of making it public knowledge that we're interested by grabbing them at pro days or the like we can bring them in and ask 'em to keep their mouths shut until the draft.

Do you think the FO needs a personal workout with DeCastro or Malcolm Floyd? If someone like that slid to us we'd know how lucky we were just off the film.

Looking at the nine we know of I think you can deduce a few things from their thought process.

1. Is any second tier QB worth drafting for us? This doesn't have to be a case of "which guy do we take?", it could just as well be a case of "do we even want any of these guys?".

2. They want to see what some of the top 5 DTs look like in person. Doesn't mean they're taking them, just that they want a real life comparison of where their talent level is compared to what could be had later on, compared to what is already on the roster.

3. What do some of the late round OLs offer? Obviously we need OL depth. Does this draft let us get that in the middle to late rounds or is it going to cost us real value?

4. Assuming they do really love Miller they're likely asking themselves "is anyone else a better value/going to surprise us?".

pricejj
04-19-2012, 11:54 AM
[QUOTE=Drek;3561506]...[QUOTE]

New England Patriots Visit List:
USC defensive tackle Armond Armstead
Louisville cornerback Josh Bellamy
Iowa safety Jordan Bernstine
Arizona State cornerback Omar Bolden
LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers
LSU cornerback Ron Brooks
North Carolina linebacker Zach Brown
Beloit receiver Derek Carrier
South Florida defensive end Claude Davis
Bethune-Cookman linebacker Ryan Davis
UCLA safety Tony Dye
Vanderbilt cornerback Casey Hayward
South Carolina defensive end Melvin Ingram
West Virginia linebacker Bruce Irvin
Montana defensive back Trumaine Johnson
Ohio linebacker Noah Keller
Oklahoma linebacker Ronnell Lewis
Oklahoma linebacker Travis Lewis
Hampton cornerback Micah Pellerin
USC defensive end Nick Perry
Florida receiver Chris Rainey
Iowa State receiver Darius Reynolds
LSU safety Brandon Taylor
Virginia Tech running back David Wilson


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/2012-draft-visits-and-workout-tracker/

The vast majority of NE's visits were from lower round guys or projected UDFA's, who weren't at the combine, who it's always good to interview before the draft, if you plan on selecting them, or picking them up the day after the draft. Did the Broncos maximize their 30 visits? We may never know, but what New England did, is precisely the type of activity that I think is useful.

Bringing in a guy like Trumaine Johnson, to see if he can run a faster 40, would have been useful for the Broncos in the 2nd round, if they consider CB a position of need.

DBroncos4life
04-19-2012, 11:57 AM
You're obsessed with the Pats.

pricejj
04-19-2012, 12:08 PM
You're obsessed with the Pats.

I hate the Pats. Look at the Steelers visits, it's the same thing...


...I just don't trust Xanders handling of the draft.

DBroncos4life
04-19-2012, 12:18 PM
I hate the Pats. Look at the Steelers visits, it's the same thing...


...I just don't trust Xanders handling of the draft.

You are the ONLY poster on this board that thinks he plays a big role on the team.

pricejj
04-19-2012, 12:22 PM
You are the ONLY poster on this board that thinks he plays a big role on the team.

Hilarious! Ok...we'll see!

I know that dude was trying to trade up for Ingram last year, which is why he suddenly sprang into action and picked up the phone on camera in the draft room...creating a skipped picked fiasco in the draft.

Just as long as Xanders forgets everything he learned from McDaniels, he'll be fine...we can't afford any more major screw ups...

DBroncos4life
04-19-2012, 12:28 PM
Hilarious! Ok...we'll see!

I know that dude was trying to trade up for Ingram last year, which is why he suddenly sprang into action and picked up the phone on camera in the draft room...creating a skipped picked fiasco in the draft.

Just as long as Xanders forgets everything he learned from McDaniels, he'll be fine...we can't afford any more major screw ups...

Because he did something a "bitch dude" would be doing on camera you think he is making deals?

pricejj
04-19-2012, 12:36 PM
Because he did something a "b**** dude" would be doing on camera you think he is making deals?

He tried. He was also responsible for the trade down from #36.

OrangeSe7en
04-19-2012, 02:26 PM
Hilarious! Ok...we'll see!

I know that dude was trying to trade up for Ingram last year, which is why he suddenly sprang into action and picked up the phone on camera in the draft room...creating a skipped picked fiasco in the draft.

Just as long as Xanders forgets everything he learned from McDaniels, he'll be fine...we can't afford any more major screw ups...

Xanders isn't without flaw but last years draft wasn't so bad. Even though Elway and others were involved, Xanders is the one watching the film and coordinating with others who are more involved in the under the hood part.

pricejj
04-23-2012, 11:29 PM
Most teams don't go out and announce who they've brought in you know. The team would prefer to keep it quiet, but guys do interviews this time of year. I'd assume they used all 30 visits and have managed to keep a tight lid on the rest of the names.

Looks like my worst fears came true.

Elway "We had 10 to 12 guys come in".

me->thwack<-pizza man