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Frosty78
04-11-2012, 09:36 AM
Mike Klis ‏ @MikeKlis

He is back. Broncos have agreed to terms with DT Justin bannan.

Chris
04-11-2012, 09:39 AM
Yay?

Man-Goblin
04-11-2012, 09:40 AM
Good.

JLesSPE
04-11-2012, 09:42 AM
ya but can he play DT?

Rabb
04-11-2012, 09:50 AM
Good, I didn't like seeing him go in the first place and have a feeling he fits in with this D very well.

Cannot wait for the "yeah but he's not..." posts now from those who cannot be happy with anything.

BroncoBen
04-11-2012, 09:56 AM
Well that is good... Bannan adds some depth.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 09:56 AM
He sucks. Would have preferred anyone else.

Rohirrim
04-11-2012, 09:59 AM
http://blogs.wickedlocal.com/newton/files/2008/05/trophy.jpg

JLesSPE
04-11-2012, 10:01 AM
I liked him when he was here before. Solid depth signing

vancejohnson82
04-11-2012, 10:03 AM
I would take Bannan over a guy like Shaun Rogers...

hate the term "value signing" but that is exactly what this is

bronco militia
04-11-2012, 10:04 AM
He sucks. Would have preferred anyone else.

I thought he was better than all these guys after the 2010 season.

91 Ronald Fields NT
79 Marcus Thomas NT/DE
76 Jamal Williams NT

LGM
04-11-2012, 10:06 AM
Another DT adds to our depth, good rotational player, and...

Decreases the likihood we pick a DT strictly based on need.

Love it.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:06 AM
I would take Bannan over a guy like Shaun Rogers...

hate the term "value signing" but that is exactly what this is

I take Shaun Rogers

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:09 AM
I thought he was better than all these guys after the 2010 season.

91 Ronald Fields NT
79 Marcus Thomas NT/DE
76 Jamal Williams NT

They were in the 3-4 correct? So he was playing 5 Tech DE... I watched him last year and he was terrible for St Louis, I just don't see this as anything other than some depth....

I was really liking the idea of two DTs in the draft.

broncos-rock
04-11-2012, 10:09 AM
Looks like just a one year deal!

bronco militia
04-11-2012, 10:11 AM
They were in the 3-4 correct? So he was playing 5 Tech DE... I watched him last year and he was terrible for St Louis, I just don't see this as anything other than some depth....

I was really liking the idea of two DTs in the draft.

in 2010, yes the broncos were playing the 3-4, but he played NT.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:12 AM
Looks like just a one year deal!

I'm hoping that means he will be easing a rookie into his new role.

I agree that it means they don't have to reach for a DT, I just would have preferred Rogers or Franklin at this point over Bannan..

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:13 AM
in 2010, yes the broncos were playing the 3-4, but he played NT.

You liked him over Williams?

Mediator12
04-11-2012, 10:14 AM
He sucks. Would have preferred anyone else.

Was HE awful or the DL around him awful. Normally I would know, but last year was the first year I failed to watch every NFL game and STL was well down the list of attractive games to watch ;D

TheReverend
04-11-2012, 10:14 AM
It doesn't set the world on fire, but he IS a legit starter. If we manage to upgrade talent at the position to make Bannan depth, than that's even more ideal.

crush17
04-11-2012, 10:15 AM
Excellent. Never liked letting him go in the first place.

bronco militia
04-11-2012, 10:15 AM
You liked him over Jamaal??

in 2010, yeah. the entire DL was brutal that year and the few plays made by the front thre/four that year were made by Bannan.


it got so bad that the defense flirted with a 4-3 and 5-2 during the season

broncos-rock
04-11-2012, 10:16 AM
I'm hoping that means he will be easing a rookie into his new role.

I agree that it means they don't have to reach for a DT, I just would have preferred Rogers or Franklin at this point over Bannan..

I hope they are smart about it. I have a hunch they don't see much difference between the top 4-6 dt and will grab Reyes in the 2nd.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:17 AM
Was HE awful or the DL around him awful. Normally I would know, but last year was the first year I failed to watch every NFL game and STL was well down the list of attractive games to watch ;D

He had Spags as the DC, who works magic with the DL. They paired him with Fred Robbins on run downs, who I will say for being ancient was solid, forcing one on ones with Bannan and he wasn't very special.

Mogulseeker
04-11-2012, 10:17 AM
Bannan wasn't very good when he was here.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-11-2012, 10:19 AM
You liked him over Williams?

Jamal Williams was a mess.

ColoradoBuff
04-11-2012, 10:19 AM
he brings depth

DBroncos4life
04-11-2012, 10:20 AM
I take Shaun Rogers

Well you are in luck, just become a GM real quick and you can sign the guy!

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:20 AM
He had Spags as the DC, who works magic with the DL. They paired him with Fred Robbins on run downs, who I will say for being ancient was solid, forcing one on ones with Bannan and he wasn't very special.

HC*

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:23 AM
Well you are in luck, just become a GM real quick and you can sign the guy!

Don't be upset that I would rather have quality then just another quantity for the position.

Rohirrim
04-11-2012, 10:24 AM
Go Buffs!

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-11-2012, 10:24 AM
Don't be upset that I would rather have quality then just another quantity for the position.

You just referred to shaun Rogers as quality?

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:24 AM
Jamal Williams was a mess.

Downside of his career I'm guessing? That was his last season in the NFL.. How was Dumervill as an OLB by the way?

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:25 AM
You just referred to shaun Rogers as quality?

He I still one of the better run stuffing NTs in the NFL..

razorwire77
04-11-2012, 10:25 AM
This is a good rotational signing. We have no depth.

TheReverend
04-11-2012, 10:26 AM
Downside of his career I'm guessing? That was his last season in the NFL.. How was Dumervill as an OLB by the way?

Speaking of downsides and last years of careers:

Last year was the last year of Shaun Rogers' career.

bronco militia
04-11-2012, 10:28 AM
.. How was Dumervill as an OLB by the way?

he was on IR that year...torn pectorial on the first day of training camp. the beginning of the end for Mcdumbass and the 2010 season

TheReverend
04-11-2012, 10:29 AM
He I still one of the better run stuffing NTs in the NFL..

After signing Rogers and Franklin, the Saints rush D regressed from 4.3 ypc in 2010 to a whopping 5.0 in 2011 (2nd WORST in the league... only behind Oakland -- due to the Tebow whomping)

So what were you saying again?

55CrushEm
04-11-2012, 10:30 AM
he was on IR that year...torn pectorial on the first day of training camp. the beginning of the end for Mcdumbass and the 2010 season

Actually, we went to a 3-4 in 2009 when McD and Nolan were hired. If I'm not mistaken, Doom had 17 sacks that year.

Then to start the 2010 season, he tore his boob.

Bottom line is Doom has had double-digit sacks as both a 4-3 DE, and an 3-4 OLB......with OLB being his most productive.

pricejj
04-11-2012, 10:33 AM
Sweet, that gives the Broncos 7 Defensive Lineman who will make the final 53...just need 2 more.

That certainly takes a ton of pressure of the draft, and gives the Broncos flexibility to wait until the 2nd round to pick UT if they choose.

Broncos DL Depth Chart:
RDE: Dumvervil/Hunter
UT: Vickerson/McBean
NT: Warren/Bannan
LDE: Ayers

yerner
04-11-2012, 10:35 AM
they need another Bunkley type deal.

delany
04-11-2012, 10:37 AM
So what were you saying again?

I think he is saying that he really hasn't watched the NFL in the last 5 years and is in to name recognition more than he is in to actual production.

Rabb
04-11-2012, 10:38 AM
Bannan wasn't very good when he was here.

I would say he wasn't utilized very well more than anything, and had crap around him. He's no world beater, but this is a solid signing.

Requiem
04-11-2012, 10:40 AM
If we don't go DT in round one because of this signing, I'm leaving the country.

crush17
04-11-2012, 10:43 AM
I think he is saying that he really hasn't watched the NFL in the last 5 years and is in to name recognition more than he is in to actual production.

lol my thoughts exactly.

DBroncos4life
04-11-2012, 10:45 AM
He I still one of the better run stuffing NTs in the NFL..

If that was remotely true he would not still be a FA.

Mountain Bronco
04-11-2012, 10:46 AM
I take Shaun Rogers

I take true broncos fans over fans that migrate teams with players.

Sorry, couldn't resist the shot.

WolfpackGuy
04-11-2012, 10:46 AM
He is what he is.

A rotational guy.

eddie mac
04-11-2012, 10:56 AM
Bannan actually played more snaps on the Rams line last year than Bunkley did here and was one of the better run D DT's in the league in 2012 (8th to be exact) as per PFF ratings. Both Rogers and Franklin were graded well below Bannan in run defense in 2012.

Smiling Assassin27
04-11-2012, 10:57 AM
I'm good with this signing. He's a serviceable guy that can work into a platoon situation well. We're better with him than without him, IMO.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 10:59 AM
After signing Rogers and Franklin, the Saints rush D regressed from 4.3 ypc in 2010 to a whopping 5.0 in 2011 (2nd WORST in the league... only behind Oakland -- due to the Tebow whomping)

So what were you saying again?

Watch games, don't go by stats. Rogers constantly commands a double team. Ellis is a scrub UT especially against the run. It's not like they played at the same time. Besides Franklin struggled to learn the 4-3, Rogers picked up quickly. They also had terrible LBs outside of Vilma, and had issues creating pressure without blitzing. There could be many reasons why stats wouldn't be pinned one one player and why they would be misleading.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:01 AM
I think he is saying that he really hasn't watched the NFL in the last 5 years and is in to name recognition more than he is in to actual production.

I actually am an NFL finatic meaning I watch more than one game, not just the broncos like you Mr. Insider. Why don't u tell us all who the Broncos are going to draft since u said you know and would PM Taco John and tell him.

eddie mac
04-11-2012, 11:03 AM
Watch games, don't go by stats. Rogers constantly commands a double team. Ellis is a scrub UT especially against the run. It's not like they played at the same time. Besides Franklin struggled to learn the 4-3, Rogers picked up quickly. They also had terrible LBs outside of Vilma, and had issues creating pressure without blitzing. There could be many reasons why stats wouldn't be pinned one one player and why they would be misleading.

You really have to ask yourself if Rogers is so damn good why have no teams shown any interest in him at all 1 month after free agency started???

Answer = he's basically done.

crush17
04-11-2012, 11:03 AM
During his one season with the Rams, Bannan accumulated a plus-8.8 overall rating (+12.3 run, -2.3 pass rush, +1.0 pass coverage!!, -2.2 penalties) on 495 snaps according to PFF. Bannan, who will turn 33 a week from today, was credited with zero sacks, one QB hit, five pressures, three batted passes, 25 tackles, four assists, one missed tackle, and 22 stops.

Terrible, right?

eddie mac
04-11-2012, 11:03 AM
I actually am an NFL finatic meaning I watch more than one game, not just the broncos like you Mr. Insider. Why don't u tell us all who the Broncos are going to draft since u said you know and would PM Taco John and tell him.

So you're really a Dolphin fan, glad we cleared that up.:giggle:

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:04 AM
During his one season with the Rams, Bannan accumulated a plus-8.8 overall rating (+12.3 run, -2.3 pass rush, +1.0 pass coverage!!, -2.2 penalties) on 495 snaps according to PFF. Bannan, who will turn 33 a week from today, was credited with zero sacks, one QB hit, five pressures, three batted passes, 25 tackles, four assists, one missed tackle, and 22 stops.

Terrible, right?

Watch one of their games, learn who Fred Robbins is. He took the double teams on.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:05 AM
You really have to ask yourself if Rogers is so damn good why have no teams shown any interest in him at all 1 month after free agency started???

Answer = he's basically done.

Never said that. Said I would have preferred him at NT over Bannan.

eddie mac
04-11-2012, 11:06 AM
During his one season with the Rams, Bannan accumulated a plus-8.8 overall rating (+12.3 run, -2.3 pass rush, +1.0 pass coverage!!, -2.2 penalties) on 495 snaps according to PFF. Bannan, who will turn 33 a week from today, was credited with zero sacks, one QB hit, five pressures, three batted passes, 25 tackles, four assists, one missed tackle, and 22 stops.

Terrible, right?

Bunkley didn't sack the QB, is he terrible too???

Both are run defenders, Bunkley is obviously better but $4m a year better, very doubtful IMHO. To pay a DT $5m a season you'd hope to get a bit of a push up the middle from him and not just to stop the RB.

pricejj
04-11-2012, 11:06 AM
Bannan actually played more snaps on the Rams line last year than Bunkley did here and was one of the better run D DT's in the league in 2012 (8th to be exact) as per PFF ratings. Both Rogers and Franklin were graded well below Bannan in run defense in 2012.

Works for me...

All the Broncos need now is one UT, and one DE.

If Warren can actually play, Warren/Bannan > Bunkley

BroncoBuff
04-11-2012, 11:07 AM
Important to factor in that there are two distinct DT positions, apparently they're not interchangeable. NT and UT, Drek or pricejj or Med can explain. Just not BMore, careful about listening to BMore .....


I mean, welcome to the Mane and all BMore, but sheeesh ... :oyvey:

crush17
04-11-2012, 11:08 AM
Watch one of their games, learn who Fred Robbins is. He took the double teams on.

I dont need you to tell me what to do, chief. Why dont you post Shaun Rogers stats from last season so we can see how the two compare, mr. super ultimate nfl fan?

TheReverend
04-11-2012, 11:09 AM
Watch games, don't go by stats. Rogers constantly commands a double team. Ellis is a scrub UT especially against the run. It's not like they played at the same time. Besides Franklin struggled to learn the 4-3, Rogers picked up quickly. They also had terrible LBs outside of Vilma, and had issues creating pressure without blitzing. There could be many reasons why stats wouldn't be pinned one one player and why they would be misleading.

That must why he barely got any starts and was kicked to the curb immediately?

Because he was so good.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:10 AM
I would have preferred Soliai, Red Bryant, Jason Jones, Garay, and many others in FA all over Bannan.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:11 AM
Important to factor in that there are two distinct DT positions, apparently they're not interchangeable. NT and UT, Drek or pricejj or Med can explain. Just not BMore, careful about listening to BMore .....


I mean, welcome to the Mane and all BMore, but sheeesh ... :oyvey:

Lol, whatever you say bro..

eddie mac
04-11-2012, 11:12 AM
One thing I'll give Bannan is his ability to stay clear of injury and remain on the field. Since 2008 he has missed 1 game and has had over 470 snaps on the field in every given season.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:12 AM
That must why he barely got any starts and was kicked to the curb immediately?

Because he was so good.

He started at NT.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:13 AM
I dont need you to tell me what to do, chief. Why dont you post Shaun Rogers stats from last season so we can see how the two compare, mr. super ultimate nfl fan?

Stats can be misleading which is what I am trying to tell you.

crush17
04-11-2012, 11:14 AM
I would have preferred Soliai, Red Bryant, Jason Jones, Garay, and many others in FA all over Bannan.

Quick, someone call Mr. Bowlen and tell him he should have replaced Elway and Xanders with this guy. What was he thinking? Hiring professionals whos entire life has revolved around football over this armchair GM...

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:15 AM
Bannan is just another guy just like Rogers. Nothing ****ing special. Denver missed out on that when they missed on Soliai. Bannan is just another body, he's not the answer.

DBroncos4life
04-11-2012, 11:16 AM
I would have preferred Soliai, Red Bryant, Jason Jones, Garay, and many others in FA all over Bannan.

How many of those guys either A) resigned with their former teams or B) did not sleep with someone close to you?

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:16 AM
Quick, someone call Mr. Bowlen and tell him he should have replaced Elway and Xanders with this guy. What was he thinking? Hiring professionals whos entire life has revolved around football over this armchair GM...

Your busting your nut over Bannan, that's pathetic.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-11-2012, 11:17 AM
Bannan is just another guy just like Rogers. Nothing ****ing special. Denver missed out on that when they missed on Soliai. Bannan is just another body, he's not the answer.

Soliai was never leaving Florida. It's not like they didn't try.

eddie mac
04-11-2012, 11:17 AM
I would have preferred Soliai, Red Bryant, Jason Jones, Garay, and many others in FA all over Bannan.

We targetted Soliai in FA but wouldn't go the $6m a year Miami paid to keep him because at that point in time Manning was not a given and so much money was going to be invested in that deal.

Bryant much like Mebane in 2011 was never leaving Seattle unless it was a huge pay increase over the $7m a year they paid.

Jones dropped to 260lbs last year and played DE, when the Rams gave him his medical he was still at 264. I reckon he'll play end or rotational at best in Seattle.

Garay was a player most Charger fans did not want back.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:18 AM
How many of those guys either A) resigned with their former teams or B) did not sleep with someone close to you?

What's your ****ing point? You don't have to lower yourself to take personal shots. You guys and getting your dicks hard to Bannan. Lol please..

vancejohnson82
04-11-2012, 11:18 AM
Bannan is just another guy just like Rogers. Nothing ****ing special. Denver missed out on that when they missed on Soliai. Bannan is just another body, he's not the answer.

there is nobody out there at this point that is the answer...thats why most of us like the pick. It gives us a little bit more flexibility in the draft because we added another body in there to give us some quality snaps. We don't need to grab a guy in the draft who is going to go 35 snaps a game right away

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:20 AM
Soliai was never leaving Florida. It's not like they didn't try.

What's your point? It was perceived in Miami and around the league he was the hottest NT on the market, expected to leave Miami. But he didn't, what's your point.

eddie mac
04-11-2012, 11:20 AM
He started at NT.

If you mean starting 4 games out of 16 is starting then fair enough.

Bannan has started 31 out of 31 games in the last 2 years and as I've stated above missed 1 game in 4 years through injury. He's also a team player and was raging last year when Denver cut him.

He's no Soliai or Bunkley but for value he's the best available out there and even far better than the 5 pages wasted on Okoye.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:22 AM
there is nobody out there at this point that is the answer...thats why most of us like the pick. It gives us a little bit more flexibility in the draft because we added another body in there to give us some quality snaps. We don't need to grab a guy in the draft who is going to go 35 snaps a game right away

Thats my issue with this signing! Don't neglet DT because of this signing. And I would prefer two DTs still. I never wanted them to reach to begin with.

DBroncos4life
04-11-2012, 11:23 AM
What's your ****ing point? You don't have to lower yourself to take personal shots. You guys and getting your ***** hard to Bannan. Lol please..
Why are you so freaked out about what a team of a guy that signed your favorite player does???
Hard on because I think he is better then Rogers? Please....

See guy I think of guys like Rogers, Bannan, and Buckley about the same. In the right scheme they will have success and I have faith in what Fox does when it comes to DT's.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:23 AM
If you mean starting 4 games out of 16 is starting then fair enough.

Bannan has started 31 out of 31 games in the last 2 years and as I've stated above missed 1 game in 4 years through injury. He's also a team player and was raging last year when Denver cut him.

He's no Soliai or Bunkley but for value he's the best available out there and even far better than the 5 pages wasted on Okoye.

Incorrect.

crush17
04-11-2012, 11:24 AM
Your busting your nut over Bannan, that's pathetic.

Nobodys busting a nut you freaking douchecanoe.

Being pleased with a depth signing is a lot different. Youre the one who looks like a complete artard getting all know it all over every ****ing FA signing the Broncos make.

You forget- most of us here are die hard BRONCOS fans, not just fans following players from team to team.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-11-2012, 11:24 AM
What's your point? It was perceived in Miami and around the league he was the hottest NT on the market, expected to leave Miami. But he didn't, what's your point.

My point is you are in here crying like this team didn't even make an effort to talk to Soliai. Get over yourself. You think we broncos fans don't know what the DT position roller coaster has felt like over the last years? Just cause a FA is the hottest ticket on the market doesnt mean he's going to choose YOUR team.

TheReverend
04-11-2012, 11:25 AM
He started at NT.

LOL

For only 4 out of the 16 games he was healthy and active for...

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:26 AM
Why are you so freaked out about what a team of a guy that signed your favorite player does???
Hard on because I think he is better then Rogers? Please....

See guy I think of guys like Rogers, Bannan, and Buckley about the same. In the right scheme they will have success and I have faith in what Fox does when it comes to DT's.

Because I want my favorite player to win Super Bowls so he solidifies himself as the best ever. And if that means the Broncos win we are on the same page doesn't it? So forgive me if I rather they drafted two DTs this year to address the problem now instead of a bandaid approach like Indy.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-11-2012, 11:27 AM
Relax and hold back the emotional hysterics until AFTER the draft.

Rabb
04-11-2012, 11:27 AM
Nobodys busting a nut you freaking douchecanoe.

Being pleased with a depth signing is a lot different. Youre the one who looks like a complete artard getting all know it all over every ****ing FA signing the Broncos make.

You forget- most of us here are die hard BRONCOS fans, not just fans following players from team to team.

^5

BroncoBuff
04-11-2012, 11:28 AM
Lol, whatever you say bro..

Just saying, sir, in your one month here you've managed to start heated arguments with the majority of the most highly-regarded people on the site. Rev and eddiemac in here, Med and Khan, Drek elsewhere, I tell you you're aiming way too high, son.

Why don't you pick on somebody your own size? Me, for example. I can throw out random, un-substantiated facts too. I once said Justin Bannan had been considered for a Pro Bowl in Baltimore. People said that was wrong, it was of course ... (I saw the quote later, "If Haloti Ngata is selected to his first Pro Bowl, he'll have Justin Bannan to thank.") See? We have a lot more in common than you think.

Rohirrim
04-11-2012, 11:30 AM
Just saying, sir, in your one month here you've managed to start heated arguments with the majority of the most highly-regarded people on the site. Rev and eddiemac in here, Med and Khan, Drek elsewhere, I tell you you're aiming way too high, son.

Why don't you pick on somebody your own size? Me, for example. I can throw out random, un-substantiated facts too. I once said Justin Bannan had been considered for a Pro Bowl in Baltimore. People said that was wrong, it was of course ... (I saw the quote later, "If Haloti Ngata is selected to his first Pro Bowl, he'll have Justin Bannan to thank.") See? We have a lot more in common than you think.

Way to go, BroncoBuff! Take one for the team! ^5

lonestar
04-11-2012, 11:32 AM
If you mean starting 4 games out of 16 is starting then fair enough.

Bannan has started 31 out of 31 games in the last 2 years and as I've stated above missed 1 game in 4 years through injury. He's also a team player and was raging last year when Denver cut him.

He's no Soliai or Bunkley but for value he's the best available out there and even far better than the 5 pages wasted on Okoye.

go figure but then floks have to have something to whine about..

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:38 AM
As I have said before and I am sure I will say it again, of you don't like what I have to say then don't read what I write or respond to me.

The more appropriate response I should have said should have been not that impressed.

crush17
04-11-2012, 11:49 AM
As I have said before and I am sure I will say it again, of you don't like what I have to say then don't read what I write or respond to me.

The more appropriate response I should have said should have been not that impressed.

Just quit acting like you know more than everyone else because clearly, you dont.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:51 AM
Just quit acting like you know more than everyone else because clearly, you dont.

Are you done yet?

McDman
04-11-2012, 11:52 AM
He sucks. Would have preferred anyone else.

PFF rated him a plus 8.8, that doesn't suck.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 11:53 AM
PFF rated him a plus 8.8, that doesn't suck.

Let's hope that he is what everyone thinks he is, and not what I have seen over the years.

crush17
04-11-2012, 11:55 AM
Are you done yet?

Yes, Im sure youre tired of being owned for today so we can stop now.

:wave:

DBroncos4life
04-11-2012, 11:57 AM
Are you done yet?

There are now 94 posts in this thread, you have 28 of them. The next most post in this thread by a poster is 7. Maybe you should think about getting over a role player.

Rohirrim
04-11-2012, 11:58 AM
Just quit acting like you know more than everyone else because clearly, you dont.

Didn't you see his earlier post? He watches all the games.

Must be difficult to keep your eyes on the DTs, though. The camera always seems to pan away and follow the ball. I guess if you TIVO all the games and watch them over and over, you could catch a lot of what a DT is doing. Of course, if it's not even on the film, then what? This fandom stuff is tough.

Heyneck
04-11-2012, 12:02 PM
There are now 94 posts in this thread, you have 28 of them. The next most post in this thread by a poster is 7. Maybe you should think about getting over a role player.

The new McGruder???

eddie mac
04-11-2012, 12:03 PM
I wouldn't be too surprsed if Bannan actually starts in week 1, Vickerson and Warren both coming off injuries, McBean with a suspension hanging over his head and maybe 1 or 2 rookies to compete against.

DBroncos4life
04-11-2012, 12:08 PM
The new McGruder???

I wouldn't go that far yet. Outside of his hate of Bannan he has been OK to read. From the jump McG was saying that the SEC was harder then the NFL. That crap was nuts.

Rohirrim
04-11-2012, 12:11 PM
I wouldn't go that far yet. Outside of his hate of Bannan he has been OK to read. From the jump McG was saying that the SEC was harder then the NFL. That crap was nuts.

Yep. MacGruder was out on an island of his own making. Nobody else comes close.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 12:27 PM
I just feel that this signing shouldn't excite people that's all..
I'm basing that off of what I watched of Bannans play over the years..
I went on a rant because I feel this signing will be a reason the FO won't address DT in the draft. I think they should use two picks on a DT this year, and then I will breathe a huge sigh of relief.

Indy never addressed DT, it was their Achilles heel in the playoffs, I apologize for the rant I just don't want to see Indy 2.0....

Bacchus
04-11-2012, 12:33 PM
If we don't go DT in round one because of this signing, I'm leaving the country.


:wave::wave::wave::wave:

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-11-2012, 12:43 PM
I just feel that this signing shouldn't excite people that's all..
I'm basing that off of what I watched of Bannans play over the years..
I went on a rant because I feel this signing will be a reason the FO won't address DT in the draft. I think they should use two picks on a DT this year, and then I will breathe a huge sigh of relief.

Indy never addressed DT, it was their Achilles heel in the playoffs, I apologize for the rant I just don't want to see Indy 2.0....

I don't think anyone is getting too excited including the FO. Remember they let him go once already. So I don't think they will put all their eggs in his basket.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-11-2012, 12:46 PM
Bmore apologized.

Bmore 1
MacGruder 0

lonestar
04-11-2012, 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Requiem View Post
If we don't go DT in round one because of this signing, I'm leaving the country.

:wave::wave::wave::wave:

post of the thread..

if only it will happen.. would be a DREAM departure.

I'm going to Call John right now.. see if he can make our DREAMS come true..

bronco militia
04-11-2012, 01:00 PM
Nobodys busting a nut you freaking douchecanoe.

Being pleased with a depth signing is a lot different. Youre the one who looks like a complete artard getting all know it all over every ****ing FA signing the Broncos make.

You forget- most of us here are die hard BRONCOS fans, not just fans following players from team to team.

:~ohyah!:

lonestar
04-11-2012, 01:01 PM
Bannan Back with Broncos
April 11th, 2012 - 10:56am by Stuart Zaas

The Broncos have signed defensive lineman Justin Bannan, the team announced on Wednesday.

Bannan, who played for Denver during the 2010 season, has totaled 303 tackles, 6.5 sacks, one interception, 10 passes defensed, four forced fumbles and one fumble recovery in 144 career appearances.

He has spent time with Buffalo (2002-05), Baltimore (2006-09), Denver (2010) and St. Louis (2011) after being selected in the fifth round of the 2002 draft by the Bills.

Bannan made 32 tackles last season for the Rams in 15 games played (14 starts). He has played at least 15 games in each of the past five seasons.

As a 16-game starter with the Broncos in 2010, Bannan made 35 tackles to go with one sack, four pass breakups and one forced fumble.

A four-year starter at the University of Colorado, Bannan finished his college career with 158 tackles and eight sacks, earning first-team All-Big 12 Conference honors as a senior.

-Stuart Zaas

http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/bannan-back-with-broncos/

read and weep

Elway 4 Life
04-11-2012, 01:27 PM
http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/bannan-back-with-broncos/

read and weep

Why weep? Good depth signing. Mcbonehead is gone for the first 6 games of the year and vick and warren were broke last year. Good move.

kappys
04-11-2012, 01:27 PM
http://blog.denverbroncos.com/denverbroncos/bannan-back-with-broncos/

read and weep

I guess its better than watching Unrein out there. :garcia:

pricejj
04-11-2012, 01:37 PM
I just feel that this signing shouldn't excite people that's all..
I'm basing that off of what I watched of Bannans play over the years..
I went on a rant because I feel this signing will be a reason the FO won't address DT in the draft. I think they should use two picks on a DT this year, and then I will breathe a huge sigh of relief.



Bmore...I see you on the ledge...There is no reason to be freaking out, it's all coming together...

1. The Broncos Defensive line is going to be better this year than last year.
2. Ty Warren/Justin Bannan > Brodrick Bunkley
3. Marcus Thomas (43 tackles, 0 sacks), can easily be replaced with a UT in the draft, if he doesn't resign.
4. Jeremy Beal > Derrick Harvey
5. The Broncos Defense was 10th in the NFL in sacks last year.
6. With a few more sacks, the Broncos Defense would be top 5.
7. Jack Del Rio is a better DC than Dennis Allen.

All the Broncos need right now is a starting caliber UT who will get sacks and pressures. If they draft more than one DT, someone will have to be cut. There are about 7 UT's in this draft who would fit the bill (Cox, Worthy, Still, Reyes, Thompson, Crick, and Wolfe). The Broncos will get one.

Signing Bannan enables the Broncos go go BPA in round 1. The pick may be for more firepower or protection for Manning, or an impact MLB/DT to solidify the middle of the Defense, but now they have the freedom to choose.


Freedom is a good thing, my friend. The draft is going to be icing on the cake.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 01:42 PM
I had nightmares of Indys deficiencies on D and I was afraid I would go through it all over again...

Lestat
04-11-2012, 01:43 PM
good depth signing, but i still want DT addressed early and often in the draft.
depth is nice but we need talent,youth and development.

55CrushEm
04-11-2012, 01:47 PM
The draft is going to be icing on the cake.

Our roster isn't so good at the present moment, that I would even come CLOSE to consider the draft to be "icing on the cake".

This roster is talent deficient in several areas.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 01:49 PM
good depth signing, but i still want DT addressed early and often in the draft.
depth is nice but we need talent,youth and development.

This is probably how I should have conveyed my thoughts.. Cause this is what I want, DT early and often..

pricejj
04-11-2012, 02:16 PM
This roster is talent deficient in several areas.

Yep, it sure is :) I will tell you right now, that I want to see improvements at UT, MLB, SS, C, OG, RT, WR, and RB. Some of those improvements will be realized in the draft, some won't.

The only other FA's who may sign this offseason are Marcus Thomas and Brian Dawkins. Without considering Manning, the roster HAS improved since last years divisional playoff game. Buckle up your bootstraps, 'cause we're goin' with PLAN A.

Voluntary offseason program begins April 16.

:strong:

Broncos_OTM
04-11-2012, 02:36 PM
Puke. Hannah is washed up. I don't care what you tell me or what the front office thinks. This was terrible

pricejj
04-11-2012, 02:47 PM
"I'm coming in to start like I always have," Bannan said. "I feel great. I feel like I'm still playing at a high level."

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20372108/broncos-sign-dt-justin-bannan


...guess that means Ty Warren is the starting UT? Bannan @ starting NT is not the greatest of ideas ???

Mogulseeker
04-11-2012, 02:51 PM
There are now 94 posts in this thread, you have 28 of them. The next most post in this thread by a poster is 7. Maybe you should think about getting over a role player.

Exactly. Bannan will make the team. He won't start.

Just for the record concerning the DT paranoia - the two slated starters for last year - Vickerson and Warren - are still on the team.

Bmore Manning
04-11-2012, 02:51 PM
Puke. Hannah is washed up. I don't care what you tell me or what the front office thinks. This was terrible

Be careful... That didn't go over to well for me..

Play2win
04-11-2012, 03:26 PM
Just quit acting like you know more than everyone else because clearly, you dont.

I find it funny, people thinking its so important how much they know about football, or how much more they know about football than somebody else. Its so ****ing hilarious, its beyond me...

I know there's a lot of people out there that know more about football than me. But, guess what? I don't care. I just enjoy the games on Sundays.

What is important, though, is knowing more about what it is that you do well, and getting the best return from it that you possibly can. That's where I concentrate my hours, studies, and readings...

TheReverend
04-11-2012, 03:29 PM
I wouldn't be too surprsed if Bannan actually starts in week 1, Vickerson and Warren both coming off injuries, McBean with a suspension hanging over his head and maybe 1 or 2 rookies to compete against.

I wouldnt be surprised if it's Bannan over the 0/1 and Still at 3/4i :)

Requiem
04-11-2012, 03:31 PM
post of the thread..

if only it will happen.. would be a DREAM departure.

I'm going to Call John right now.. see if he can make our DREAMS come true..

You might think you are clever with the name puns, but it only shows how pathetic you are.

You should call John for driving lessons.

Heyneck
04-11-2012, 03:38 PM
Bmore...I see you on the ledge...There is no reason to be freaking out, it's all coming together...

1. The Broncos Defensive line is going to be better this year than last year.
2. Ty Warren/Justin Bannan > Brodrick Bunkley
3. Marcus Thomas (43 tackles, 0 sacks), can easily be replaced with a UT in the draft, if he doesn't resign.
4. Jeremy Beal > Derrick Harvey
5. The Broncos Defense was 10th in the NFL in sacks last year.
6. With a few more sacks, the Broncos Defense would be top 5.
7. Jack Del Rio is a better DC than Dennis Allen.

All the Broncos need right now is a starting caliber UT who will get sacks and pressures. If they draft more than one DT, someone will have to be cut. There are about 7 UT's in this draft who would fit the bill (Cox, Worthy, Still, Reyes, Thompson, Crick, and Wolfe). The Broncos will get one.

Signing Bannan enables the Broncos go go BPA in round 1. The pick may be for more firepower or protection for Manning, or an impact MLB/DT to solidify the middle of the Defense, but now they have the freedom to choose.


Freedom is a good thing, my friend. The draft is going to be icing on the cake.

Love your optimism man but... right now... we are worst off without Thomas and Bunkley. It doesn't matter how you paint it... but Warren hasn't played in 2 years. Could we end with a better defensive line? Sure! But until I see it with my own eyes I am not buying it. Let's not count our chicks before they hatch!

TheReverend
04-11-2012, 03:40 PM
...guess that means Ty Warren is the starting UT? Bannan @ starting NT is not the greatest of ideas ???

It's a non issue. NT in a Fox defense does more edge playing than traditionally. Bannan's a pretty great fit for it, imo.

Requiem
04-11-2012, 03:42 PM
It's a non issue. NT in a Fox defense does more edge playing than traditionally. Bannan's a pretty great fit for it, imo.

What will happen if Still isn't picked in the top 40 and we don't move up to get him? Will you light the world on fire?

Drek
04-11-2012, 04:05 PM
Love your optimism man but... right now... we are worst off without Thomas and Bunkley. It doesn't matter how you paint it... but Warren hasn't played in 2 years. Could we end with a better defensive line? Sure! But until I see it with my own eyes I am not buying it. Let's not count our chicks before they hatch!

Thomas and Bunkley are nothing special.

Some smart drafting and solid coaching by Del Rio and co. and we won't miss the two of them at all.

Bunkley will never earn his contract, he's got a history of payday year production. I'd bet on Bannan filling his role quite well for a year or two.

Thomas is nothing special, proven by him still being on the market and getting no hard bites at all. Vickerson is likely an upgrade if healthy, McBean took a bunch of snaps in place of Thomas last season, and if we pull a single worthwhile UT type out of the draft we're better off.

Are we better than last year right now at this very moment? Probably not because I have zero faith in Warren. But if we even halfheartedly address DT in the draft and/or Warren is actually healthy and productive for a few games this is could be a solid DT, which would be the first time in nearly a decade that the Broncos could make that claim.

TheReverend
04-11-2012, 04:38 PM
What will happen if Still isn't picked in the top 40 and we don't move up to get him? Will you light the world on fire?

It'll be another ****ing joke case of over-scouting and someone will walk with a steal.

Not the first time it's happened and won't be the last

lonestar
04-11-2012, 04:43 PM
Why weep? Good depth signing. Mcbonehead is gone for the first 6 games of the year and vick and warren were broke last year. Good move.

I thought so also.

Was being a wise ass because of all the hate on here for him.

People act like we have a lot of choices out there. We still have the draft, UDFA and cuts by other teams between now and the start of the season.

Hopefully we will add to him and the DT spot.

KipCorrington25
04-11-2012, 06:18 PM
The next Ed McCaffrey.

lonestar
04-12-2012, 01:01 AM
You might think you are clever with the name puns, but it only shows how pathetic you are.

You should call John for driving lessons.

Pot calling kettle black how original,

Btw I'm still here. Face it dreamy boy your still an assclown.

I'm surprised you could not find your buttbuddy to back you up as you seem to only be able to hide behind their skirts.

In the mean time I'm sipping a tall cool one at the pool. Have fun at work for the next 4 decades. Ahahahahahahahaha.

Borks147
04-12-2012, 05:03 AM
Bannan actually played more snaps on the Rams line last year than Bunkley did here and was one of the better run D DT's in the league in 2012 (8th to be exact) as per PFF ratings. Both Rogers and Franklin were graded well below Bannan in run defense in 2012.

Facts like these make me think Xanders has been watching Moneyball on repeat.

alkemical
04-12-2012, 05:39 AM
Facts like these make me think Xanders has been watching Moneyball on repeat.

I was thinking the same thing the other day also. I wonder if that's Xander's role. If so, it's not a bad thing to play #'s sometimes. Interesting.

DENVERDUI55
04-12-2012, 05:51 AM
The next Ed McCaffrey.

I was thinking next Engleberger but thought I was bad calling him an awful word like that.

andre
04-12-2012, 05:54 AM
that would be great

Bronco Rob
04-14-2012, 04:31 AM
Bannan happy to be back in Colorado


The Sports Xchange Saturday April 14, 2012 - 3:51 AM



It wasn't that the Broncos wanted to part ways with defensive lineman Justin Bannan last year. It was a financial move, with the team owing him $3.5 million for the 2011 season if it kept him under contract.

The Broncos knew it. Bannan knew it. That was too much money for a player who was signed to play defensive end in the 3-4 alignment under then-coach Josh McDaniels but found the alignment set to change under the guidance of John Fox, whose experience with 4-3 defenses as a coordinator and head coach dates back nearly two decades.

"At the end of the day, it is just business," Bannan said. "Sometimes you will take it personal, or it just hurts. It's never fun to get fired; it's never fun to lose your job.

"I will say that they didn't dislike me as a person nor as a player. They did need to make a lot of cost-cutting moves. They had good management come in; they had a new coaching staff."

That coaching staff said goodbye to Bannan then, but didn't close the door on a return, which was crystallized April 11 when the University of Colorado product returned to his former team, signing a one-year deal.

"To me, it's a no-brainer to come back here," Bannan said.

"I have a lot of pride here. I feel like I belong here," he continued. "I kind of felt like that when I played at CU (University of Colorado). I feel like I belong in Colorado."

He fills a pressing need for the Broncos: defensive tackle depth. With no movement on Marcus Thomas and Brodrick Bunkley signed to the Saints for $25 million over five years and $9 million guaranteed, the Broncos were shy of experienced defensive tackles; their projected starters before Bannan's signing were Ty Warren and Kevin Vickerson, both of whom finished 2011 on injured reserve. Warren has yet to play for the Broncos after tearing a triceps muscle in training camp and hasn't played a regular-season snap since 2009 with the Patriots.

With Bannan aboard, the Broncos possess enough defensive tackles to make it through a game, with Mitch Unrein seeing spot duty and defensive end Robert Ayers rotating inside on pass-rush downs when linebacker Von Miller moves to defensive end. The position isn't settled by any means, but it allows the Broncos draft-day flexibility to pick the best player available, not necessarily a defensive tackle if a coveted prospect drops.

But it's more likely that Bannan simply buys the Broncos time for a drafted defensive tackle to develop at his own pace and not be rushed into service, especially given the typically steep learning curve of the position.

Either way, Bannan feels he fits better in the current 4-3 defense -- in which he started for St. Louis last season -- than the 3-4 in which he played two years ago, starting the entire season and playing mostly as a five-technique defensive end.

"To be honest, I'm more comfortable in 4-3 than I am in 3-4," he said. "(2010) was the first year I ever played a true 3-4 and played that type of technique.

"If it comes down to playing more of a 4-3, more of an attacking-style defense, that's going to be more up my alley."




http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/18541746/bannan-happy-to-be-back-in-colorado

BroncoBuff
04-21-2012, 09:41 AM
"I'm more comfortable in 4-3 than a 3-4 ... (2010) was the first year I ever played a true 3-4 and played that type of technique.

Strange thing to say ... the Ravens D seems a pretty classic example of a 3-4, he played all three spots.


This is the apt-est of comparisons:


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sBukMMXOL._SL500_AA300_.jpg