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g6matty
03-29-2012, 08:19 AM
he ran a 4.58 twice at his pro day. wow..

he might fall all the way to 25 now :wiggle:

TheReverend
03-29-2012, 08:25 AM
Doubt it!

Bronco Rob
03-29-2012, 08:26 AM
He will NEVER make it past the Jets.

LGM
03-29-2012, 08:26 AM
I hope you're being sarcastic.

Heyneck
03-29-2012, 08:26 AM
he wont make it out of the top 10!

BroncoBen
03-29-2012, 08:27 AM
I don't think so... Richardson will still be a top 15 pick. The only way he drops to to 25 is if he commits manslaughter.. and goes to jail.

g6matty
03-29-2012, 09:09 AM
He stated hes at 70% recovery from his knee scope a few months ago which explains his slow time.

HILife
03-29-2012, 09:10 AM
Thought he was a power runner anyway.

BowlenBall
03-29-2012, 09:18 AM
Mark Ingram, Alabama - Heisman trophy winner, consensus top running back in the 2011 draft. Went 28th overall to the New Orleans Saints.

Just saying.

Ronnie Tsunami
03-29-2012, 09:37 AM
wow, a 4.58 after knee surgery? he's gonna fall out of the first day!!!

Rabb
03-29-2012, 09:39 AM
Mark Ingram, Alabama - Heisman trophy winner, consensus top running back in the 2011 draft. Went 28th overall to the New Orleans Saints.

Just saying.

this isn't apples to apples really, each draft class depends on many factors

Kaylore
03-29-2012, 09:58 AM
Thought he was a power runner anyway.

He is. It won't effect his status.

BowlenBall
03-29-2012, 10:11 AM
this isn't apples to apples really, each draft class depends on many factors

Trent Richardson
Running Back
University of Alabama
5'9", 228 lbs.
3130 career yards
5.8 ypc
35 touchdowns
40-yard dash: 4.58

Mark Ingram
Running Back
University of Alabama
5'9", 215 lbs.
3261 career yards
5.7 ypc
42 touchdowns
40-yard dash: 4.62

How do you like them apples?
http://huntsmanslodge.com/images/good_will_hunting.jpg

Rabb
03-29-2012, 10:19 AM
Trent Richardson
Running Back
University of Alabama
5'9", 228 lbs.
3130 career yards
5.8 ypc
35 touchdowns
40-yard dash: 4.58

Mark Ingram
Running Back
University of Alabama
5'9", 215 lbs.
3261 career yards
5.7 ypc
42 touchdowns
40-yard dash: 4.62

How do you like them apples?
http://huntsmanslodge.com/images/good_will_hunting.jpg

sigh, you missed my point but ok...I will concede because I don't want to argue here

BowlenBall
03-29-2012, 10:29 AM
sigh, you missed my point but ok...I will concede because I don't want to argue here

Sorry, didn't mean to come off as aggressive in that last point -- just read your "apples to apples" comment and the Good Will Hunting comment came to mind.

I didn't miss your point, either -- you were most likely making the point that Mark Ingram could have gone anywhere from 10th to 30th in his draft, depending on team needs and the quality of the other players coming out in that year. Same with Richardson. The relative depth of a running back class comes into play as well -- teams will pass on a back if they think they can get someone just as good a round or two later.

That being said -- it's apples to apples, my man. Exactly apples to apples. :wiggle:

BroncoMan4ever
03-29-2012, 10:29 AM
he ran a 4.58 twice at his pro day. wow..

he might fall all the way to 25 now :wiggle:

he will still be gone in the top half of the draft. 4.58 isn't terrible for a RB of his size, it isn't great either, but he is still head and shoulders above the rest of the backs in this draft and there is no way in hell he lasts to 25.

DBroncos4life
03-29-2012, 10:33 AM
Trent Richardson
Running Back
University of Alabama
5'9", 228 lbs.
3130 career yards
5.8 ypc
35 touchdowns
40-yard dash: 4.58

Mark Ingram
Running Back
University of Alabama
5'9", 215 lbs.
3261 career yards
5.7 ypc
42 touchdowns
40-yard dash: 4.62

How do you like them apples?
http://huntsmanslodge.com/images/good_will_hunting.jpg
I think he is talking about the overall class. If a draft class is loaded at at other postions then a guy like Ingram's stock takes a hit.
Opps you said that after ;D

ColoradoBuff
03-29-2012, 10:34 AM
he ran a 4.58 twice at his pro day. wow..

he might fall all the way to 25 now :wiggle:



no way in hell he makes it out of the Top 15.

BowlenBall
03-29-2012, 10:45 AM
he will still be gone in the top half of the draft. 4.58 isn't terrible for a RB of his size, it isn't great either, but he is still head and shoulders above the rest of the backs in this draft and there is no way in hell he lasts to 25.

I don't think that he'll drop to 25 either, but I'm saying there's a chance. Nobody thought Mark Ingram would bottom out like that last year either.

Plus, very few teams have running back as a primary or urgent need in the draft this year. For example, the National Football Post (http://aggbot.com/Washington-Redskins-News/article/15067812) only lists three teams (Bengals, Bucs, Broncos) who have RB as one of their top four needs in this year's draft.....

ludo21
03-29-2012, 10:47 AM
we should trade up ;D

BowlenBall
03-29-2012, 10:50 AM
we should trade up ;D

Trade up, then pick a running back way too high....

Josh McDaniels? Is that you?

lonestar
03-29-2012, 10:52 AM
who cares?

Drunk Monkey
03-29-2012, 11:02 AM
I can't think of anyone other then Adrian Peterson and Run DMC that I would draft in the 1st round at RB in the last 5 years. Is Richardson on that level? I say no.

g6matty
03-29-2012, 11:06 AM
I can't think of anyone other then Adrian Peterson and Run DMC that I would draft in the 1st round at RB in the last 5 years. Is Richardson on that level? I say no.

mayock thinks hes the best prospect since richardson . who knows ???

Rabb
03-29-2012, 11:17 AM
Sorry, didn't mean to come off as aggressive in that last point -- just read your "apples to apples" comment and the Good Will Hunting comment came to mind.

I didn't miss your point, either -- you were most likely making the point that Mark Ingram could have gone anywhere from 10th to 30th in his draft, depending on team needs and the quality of the other players coming out in that year. Same with Richardson. The relative depth of a running back class comes into play as well -- teams will pass on a back if they think they can get someone just as good a round or two later.

That being said -- it's apples to apples, my man. Exactly apples to apples. :wiggle:

Nope you weren't no worries man. They are apples to apples (never saw the movie) in terms of skill and all that, but you did state my point about how year to year despite talent one position can drop depending on a lot of things. A top ten guy one year could be a bottom first rounder the next.

Bro hug?

ozomulsion
03-29-2012, 11:17 AM
I heard 4.44, and 4.48. Are we sure he rand a 4.58? Doesn't matter a bit. He goes to the Bucs at #5.

lonestar
03-29-2012, 11:20 AM
IN case the OP missed the news we signed HOF QB Manning..

I doubt we will run the ball like we have been..

While we need a RB wasting a 1-3 round pick on one is just that a waste.. HAve BIGGER fish to fry..

MAnning is going to move the ball by passing it most of the time..

a top pick RB in a ZBS is not needed

Ratboy
03-29-2012, 11:26 AM
If he some how fell to 20, I would want Denver to trade up.

I still think we get a DT in round 1.

ward63
03-29-2012, 11:30 AM
Peyton is going to run this offense and he did get 2 first round running backs in Indy, but we have much higher needs than RB right now.

razorwire77
03-29-2012, 11:34 AM
Not a big fan of drafting RB in the 1st round. However, if by some miraculous act of Tebow, Richardson is sitting there at 25 you do a Tiger Woods slut banging fist pump and run to the podium.

BowlenBall
03-29-2012, 11:41 AM
Not a big fan of drafting RB in the 1st round. However, if by some miraculous act of Tebow, Richardson is sitting there at 25 you do a Tiger Woods slut banging fist pump and run to the podium.

Then again, you could take a defensive tackle at 25, and get Doug Martin in the 2nd....:stirstir:

maher_tyler
03-29-2012, 12:19 PM
Thought he was a power runner anyway.

If i had to compare TR to someone in the NFL it'd be Peterson. Combination of speed and power.

swaiy
03-29-2012, 12:43 PM
It was repeatedly said on SportsCenter Thursday that Richardson registered “a 4.4 forty.” NFL Network’s Bucky Brooks clocked Richardson “in the 4.45 to 4.49 range.” The times relayed by ESPN3′s live broadcast were 4.58 and 4.58, “unofficially.” In his Pro Day review, SI.com draft analyst Tony Pauline wrote that Richardson “failed to run an elite 40 time.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/29/after-pro-day-no-consensus-on-trent-richardsons-forty-time/

Requiem
03-29-2012, 01:09 PM
He isn't my top back anyways. Fug him.

Lestat
03-29-2012, 04:32 PM
God i wish we could land him, but the trade up would be murder on the draft picks. this means he'll fall out of the top 5 but he's still a top 10 selection.

g6matty
03-29-2012, 04:41 PM
early reports were way off to whats came out. i look like a dumbass but hey what ya gonna do lol

underrated29
03-29-2012, 04:47 PM
I can't think of anyone other then Adrian Peterson and Run DMC that I would draft in the 1st round at RB in the last 5 years. Is Richardson on that level? I say no.

Chris Johnson
Jamal Charles
Jonathan Stewart
Arian foster
Lease an McCoy


I think it would be wise to include these players in your list.

ozomulsion
03-29-2012, 05:46 PM
If he some how fell to 20, I would want Denver to trade up.

I still think we get a DT in round 1.

When did this become a thread about us getting Richardson? LOL@ fell to 20.

Tombstone RJ
03-29-2012, 05:59 PM
I think TR will fall out of the top 10 but how far he falls is a big question mark. However I think most NFL teams understand that taking a RB in the top 10 is kind of a waste. He's a great RB but does a team take him in the top 10 with other needs (anyone drafting in the top 10--aside from getting the pick in a trade or something--has many needs)?

oubronco
03-29-2012, 06:15 PM
No way in hell he falls to #25 and even if he did they better take a DT and address the position for a fuggin change

Drek
03-29-2012, 06:27 PM
Chris Johnson
Jamal Charles
Jonathan Stewart
Arian foster
Lease an McCoy


I think it would be wise to include these players in your list.

Charles, Foster, and McCoy weren't first rounders. You're kinda proving his point. Why spend 1st round value on a back when great value can consistently be found later?

Richardson might go in the top 10. But if enough teams question if he has game changing speed he could go into the same free fall that caught Ingram last year. RBs are very dependent on the draft class they are in, how FA goes, and how they themselves run leading up to the draft. Richardson might do fine but if teams like Cleveland, Tampa Bay, and Cincy aren't willing to invest a first in him then he could definitely go into a big slide.

The FA market for RBs hasn't delivered much hope for those teams so Richardson is probably still going pretty early. But if Forte and Stewart are moved before the draft to the right teams it could really change the market for Richardson.

OrangeSe7en
03-30-2012, 09:50 PM
He doesn't have to be better or as good as Adrian Peterson. He just needs to be better than what Denver has now.

I'm pretty sure Elway sold Manning on the idea of getting him "help" in the form of a running game. I'm not sure it involves RB and not offensive line, but having a running game to complement Manning, would be huge. I'm pretty sure it's also big on Elways agenda too since he won 2 SBs gravy training off of Denver's running game in the mid-late 90s.

Drunk Monkey
03-30-2012, 09:58 PM
He doesn't have to be better or as good as Adrian Peterson. He just needs to be better than what Denver has now.

I'm pretty sure Elway sold Manning on the idea of getting him "help" in the form of a running game. I'm not sure it involves RB and not offensive line, but having a running game to complement Manning, would be huge. I'm pretty sure it's also big on Elways agenda too since he won 2 SBs gravy training off of Denver's running game in the mid-late 90s.

True but not in the first round. The kid will be good but not 1st round good considering the holes we need to fill. As I previously stated RB is a tough position to make worth a 1st round pick.