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UberBroncoMan
03-13-2012, 02:53 PM
NFL Network just reported.

He's going to do great there. He went to college in the region too.

New young WR core to help out RG3.

vancejohnson82
03-13-2012, 02:54 PM
bubble screen

Kaylore
03-13-2012, 02:54 PM
I am REALLY happy for him. He's wanted to play for them since he was wearing diapers.

txtebow
03-13-2012, 02:55 PM
We should have drafted DeSean Jackson anyway...

cmhargrove
03-13-2012, 02:55 PM
Good for Eddie, I hope Shanahan finds what's been missing for him.

txtebow
03-13-2012, 02:56 PM
http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=70396&highlight=desean+jackson+eddie+royal

LetsGoBroncos
03-13-2012, 02:56 PM
How do certain teams have unlimited money? That is their fourth signing today, they lost $18 million yesterday for the uncapped year, they have to sign RG III. I don't get it

cutthemdown
03-13-2012, 02:56 PM
No biggie, and another homer move by shanny and his kid. Lets face it Shanny's kid doesn't deserve to be an o coord.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-13-2012, 02:56 PM
How will we ever find a guy to replace his lack of production?

Swedish Extrovert
03-13-2012, 02:57 PM
All the best to him.

Rolandftw
03-13-2012, 02:57 PM
Too bad it didn't work out in Denver. Hope it works out for him in Washington.

Chris
03-13-2012, 02:58 PM
How do certain teams have unlimited money? That is their fourth signing today, they lost $18 million yesterday for the uncapped year, they have to sign RG III. I don't get it

I suspect because they're only signing these guys and RGIII.

Happy for Eddie. Having said that, addition by subtraction.

MVP-06
03-13-2012, 03:00 PM
Good guy that never got going after his rookie year. Who is his replacement in the slot?

TheReverend
03-13-2012, 03:03 PM
Good guy that never got going after his rookie year. Who is his replacement in the slot?

Anyone.

UberBroncoMan
03-13-2012, 03:03 PM
Good guy that never got going after his rookie year. Who is his replacement in the slot?

Brandon Stokely?

;)

SonOfLe-loLang
03-13-2012, 03:04 PM
Anyone.

haha exactly. Im not sure why anyone would mourn this loss.

MVP-06
03-13-2012, 03:07 PM
So the skins got Royal, Morgan, and Garçon. They got the second tier wr's covered. Not mourning him at all son, just curious if anyone has any insight on slot receivers we could be targeting

StugotsIII
03-13-2012, 03:07 PM
Good guy that never got going after his rookie year. Who is his replacement in the slot?

Devier Posey.

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 03:08 PM
Well I guess its time to delete him from facebook....I wish him the best

gyldenlove
03-13-2012, 03:09 PM
So they are getting Royal, Garcon and Josh Morgan, 3 little guys who can play (interestingly Royal and Morgan went to VT together and were drafted the same year)

broncos-rock
03-13-2012, 03:09 PM
No biggie, and another homer move by shanny and his kid. Lets face it Shanny's kid doesn't deserve to be an o coord.

It's been reported they have Garçon, Morgan , and now Royal. Did they not have any wideouts last year. This is insane! So much for the cap penalty hurting the redskins.

scorpio
03-13-2012, 03:10 PM
No more Royal Treatment at Taco Bell

http://i.imgur.com/eixQB.gif

WolfpackGuy
03-13-2012, 03:11 PM
It was real, Eddie.

Goobzilla
03-13-2012, 03:12 PM
I have nothing bad to say about Eddie and his time here. Wish him the best.

Ronnie Tsunami
03-13-2012, 03:12 PM
Eddie, you're the man. Hope you're happy in Wash. Redskins, enjoy.

Pony Boy
03-13-2012, 03:13 PM
Good guy that never got going after his rookie year. Who is his replacement in the slot?

Joe Adams

Dr. Broncenstein
03-13-2012, 03:13 PM
It's been reported they have Garçon, Morgan , and now Royal. Did they not have any wideouts last year. This is insane! So much for the cap penalty hurting the redskins.

Its amazing how much they accomplish in two hours with negative cap space. They are like honeybadgers.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-13-2012, 03:14 PM
Joe Adams

The thought makes my pants fit funny.

BroncoInferno
03-13-2012, 03:18 PM
I wonder what, if anything, this means for Gaffney? Is he going to be the 4th guy now? He was pretty productive for them. You figure Santana Moss is a goner.

Chris
03-13-2012, 03:24 PM
I hope you guys are right. I just bet 20 units on this.

hambone13
03-13-2012, 03:28 PM
We should have drafted DeSean Jackson anyway...

This.....

Lestat
03-13-2012, 03:28 PM
the Skins will finally have some WR's now. Garcon and Royal is a nice little tandem for RGIII to start with.

LonghornBronco
03-13-2012, 03:33 PM
Hold the show. Royal not signed yet... tweets Andrew Mason.

lolcopter
03-13-2012, 03:50 PM
who cares. he's all but gone from denver

vancejohnson82
03-13-2012, 03:52 PM
i wish him nothing but the best but he just wasn't getting it done here....

I hope a change of scenery and scheme is all he needs to get back to rookie form

Rohirrim
03-13-2012, 03:53 PM
Goodbye, Eddie. Thanks for the memories.

ludo21
03-13-2012, 03:57 PM
im deleting him on facebook

bap454
03-13-2012, 03:59 PM
If Peyton can make Collie look like an all pro, imagine what Royal would look like! He would be a monster not to mention his special teams value, coulda shoulda, woulda.....

Goobzilla
03-13-2012, 04:07 PM
MaxBroncos reporting the deal is done now. No more Royal Treatment and one less FB friend :-(

Goobzilla
03-13-2012, 04:09 PM
2 years $12 Million according to the Washington Post

canadianbroncosfan
03-13-2012, 04:11 PM
Lindsay Jones ‏ @PostBroncos:
Wash Post reports Eddie Royal's deal w/ Redskins 2 years, $12 million.

barryr
03-13-2012, 04:12 PM
Royal could be useful as a 3rd WR in the slot where he isn't the top target. He use with the Broncos was really only as a returner.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-13-2012, 04:14 PM
Royal could be useful as a 3rd WR in the slot where he isn't the top target. He use with the Broncos was really only as a returner.

Possibly true if you ignore the last three seasons.

canadianbroncosfan
03-13-2012, 04:17 PM
Vic Lombardi ‏ @VicLombardi:
Eddie Royal one of my all-time favorite athletes to come thru town. But 2yrs, 12-mill? No way Broncos are paying that.

TheReverend
03-13-2012, 04:19 PM
If Peyton can make Collie look like an all pro, imagine what Royal would look like! He would be a monster not to mention his special teams value, coulda shoulda, woulda.....

Collie can catch a football.

OBF1
03-13-2012, 04:29 PM
yeah good luck, yadda, yadda, yadda

I do not know why he is going to be great there in Washington when is was not even average in Denver.

DENVERDUI55
03-13-2012, 04:30 PM
Good riddance. Don't pull your hammy Eddie walking to airplane to Denver.

KevinJames
03-13-2012, 04:48 PM
We just lost a deadly weapon that was severely underutilized.

we better do something about speed especially if we don't get Manning we now have 1 guy that can run faster than a 4.5 on offense and that is Demaryius Thomas.

we should go after Ted Ginn we need a PR now too.

Broncoman13
03-13-2012, 04:49 PM
2 years $12m, that should be good for a comp pick in a year, no?

Sassy
03-13-2012, 04:50 PM
crap

Orange_Beard
03-13-2012, 04:53 PM
im deleting him on facebook

Lol

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 04:53 PM
We just lost a deadly weapon that was severely underutilized.

we better do something about speed especially if we don't get Manning we now have 1 guy that can run faster than a 4.5 on offense and that is Demaryius Thomas.

we should go after Ted Ginn we need a PR now too.

As long as he never steps on the field for WR!

Chris
03-13-2012, 04:55 PM
We just lost a deadly weapon that was severely underutilized.

we better do something about speed especially if we don't get Manning we now have 1 guy that can run faster than a 4.5 on offense and that is Demaryius Thomas.

we should go after Ted Ginn we need a PR now too.

This deadly weapon?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vmpSO2BbYCE/TJO4J6woxCI/AAAAAAAAM2Y/5vzxk6UTdCQ/s1600/WaterPistol.jpg

RaiderH8r
03-13-2012, 05:02 PM
We just lost a deadly weapon that was severely underutilized.

we better do something about speed especially if we don't get Manning we now have 1 guy that can run faster than a 4.5 on offense and that is Demaryius Thomas.

we should go after Ted Ginn we need a PR now too.

If Eddie is a deadly weapon he sure kept it in the holster.

txtebow
03-13-2012, 05:09 PM
Tedd Ginn would be a great specialty pickup if we are able to get Wayne, Clark and Manning.

KevinJames
03-13-2012, 05:10 PM
If Eddie is a deadly weapon WE sure kept it in the holster.

FIFY

RaiderH8r
03-13-2012, 05:10 PM
FIFY

Ummm...no.

McDman
03-13-2012, 05:18 PM
I liked Eddie a lot, showed a lot of promise and it just didn't work out. He seems to be one of the few really genuinely good guys in the NFL.

Good luck to him with the Redskins.

TonyR
03-13-2012, 05:23 PM
I wonder what, if anything, this means for Gaffney? Is he going to be the 4th guy now?

LOL There were people mad at me the other day for suggesting he wasn't a #1 WR!

TheReverend
03-13-2012, 05:25 PM
LOL There were people mad at me the other day for suggesting he wasn't a #1 WR!

That was a semantics argument where you both should've been slapped in the face.

TonyR
03-13-2012, 05:28 PM
That was a semantics argument where you both should've been slapped in the face.

LOL True!

houghtam
03-13-2012, 05:30 PM
I like how this signing doesn't even make the first page on either the NFL home page or the ESPN NFL page, yet Eddie Royal was a talent severely underutilized by the Broncos. I guess the media and everyone else underrates the guy too.

LOOK OUT NFL, HEEEEEERE COMES EDDIE ROYAL! Hilarious!

KipCorrington25
03-13-2012, 05:31 PM
12 Mil for 2 years is that correct? That's crazy overpay.

KevinJames
03-13-2012, 05:31 PM
Ive never seen so much disrespect you will see how good he is this year.

Eddie was nothing but a class act even with mediocre QBs.

Hamrob
03-13-2012, 05:37 PM
It's funny how guys are down on Royal.

Let's see:

Jay Cutler - Royal is a stud
Kyle Orton - Royal is a dud
Tim Tebow - Threw 10 balls a game

Washington is getting a steal. Royal and Garcon are both 25/26 years old. RGIII will be taken care of nicely.

TDmvp
03-13-2012, 05:39 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/redskins-agree-to-terms-with-wr-eddie-royal/2012/03/13/gIQAVvtLAS_blog.html?wprss=rss_football-insider

houghtam
03-13-2012, 05:43 PM
It's funny how guys are down on Royal.

Let's see:

Jay Cutler - Royal takes the league by surprise
Kyle Orton - Royal has 66 catches in 21 games (WOW)
Tim Tebow - Threw 10 balls a game

Washington is overpaying for a kick returner. RGIII will be running for his life to find an open receiver. Good thing he's fast.

FYP in bold

Miss I.
03-13-2012, 05:43 PM
Good guy that never got going after his rookie year. Who is his replacement in the slot?

Me...eh, oh wait I got that confused...I thought u said slut. Oops

KevinJames
03-13-2012, 05:45 PM
Adam Caplan

Eddie Royal still not signed yet. Market turned out to be really strong for him. Versatility, can play slot, outside, specials. Good player.


NOT A SKIN YET

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 05:45 PM
Steve Johnson is getting about 7.2 mill per year (base average salary) and Royal is getting 6? How is that a steal again?

TonyR
03-13-2012, 05:46 PM
Washington is getting a steal.

Come on. I like Eddie but he's not worth remotely $6 million/year. That's ridic for a guy who's barely produced since the first half of his rookie year.

KCStud
03-13-2012, 05:48 PM
Man RG3 is going to a perfect situation. He's perfect for Ratty's offense and now he has solid weapons to throw to.

broncosteven
03-13-2012, 05:53 PM
How will we ever find a guy to replace his lack of production?

Eric Decker

TheReverend
03-13-2012, 05:55 PM
Eric Decker

Decker can drop a football pretty damn well... but Eddie was amazing at making sure he didn't catch them.

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 05:56 PM
Decker can drop a football pretty damn well... but Eddie was amazing at making sure he didn't catch them.

That's why I suggested Ginn to replace Royal.

Miss I.
03-13-2012, 05:57 PM
Eric Decker

Ahem. Eric decker is very productive. Granted its mostly off field posing in sexy photos for me, ahem legitimate publications, but he produces. :egbgb:

lonestar
03-13-2012, 05:58 PM
Adam Caplan

Eddie Royal still not signed yet. Market turned out to be really strong for him. Versatility, can play slot, outside, specials. Good player.


NOT A SKIN YET


I was surprised to see everyone thinking this was a done deal..

BUT IIRC WAS has signed TWO WR's not named fast eddie..

houghtam
03-13-2012, 05:58 PM
Decker can drop a football pretty damn well... but Eddie was amazing at making sure he didn't catch them.

Yeah he was also pretty good at not getting open and forgetting where he was supposed to line up.

TheReverend
03-13-2012, 05:59 PM
That's why I suggested Ginn to replace Royal.

I think the best fit for Eddie's production is this guy in the #2 jersey:


















































http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/chrisbaker.jpg

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 05:59 PM
Decker can drop a football pretty damn well... but Eddie was amazing at making sure he didn't catch them.

Only Tebow has good enough hands to catch Tebows ****ty passes...

houghtam
03-13-2012, 06:00 PM
Only Tebow has good enough hands to catch Tebows ****ty passes...

We also led the league in dropped passes before Tebow went in, toolbag.

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 06:00 PM
I think the best fit for Eddie's production is this guy in the #2 jersey:


















































http://broncotalk.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/chrisbaker.jpg

I don't like the way his helmet fits.

lonestar
03-13-2012, 06:01 PM
Only Tebow has good enough hands to catch Tebows ****ty passes...

Seem to remmeebr that DT caught a bunch of them..

I suspect that like MOST WRs eddie has a deifct between the ears..

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 06:04 PM
We also led the league in dropped passes before Tebow went in, toolbag.

So putting in a ****ty QB was supposed to improve the ****ty wide receivers.. I think you're onto something here.. If only you could sell the rest of the league on how having a ****ty QB is the best option to improve your receivers dropping balls, we might get a first round pick for Tebow. I guess thats how they do things in Michigan huh douche bag?

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 06:04 PM
We also led the league in dropped passes before Tebow went in, toolbag.

The browns owned that stat all year

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 06:06 PM
Most tebowites weren't around for royals rookie year so they don't know much about him other than what they saw this year.

Miss I.
03-13-2012, 06:09 PM
Decker can drop a football pretty damn well... but Eddie was amazing at making sure he didn't catch them.

Is it wrong that I read that as "Eric decker's balls drop". Probably but it makes me giggle

Best of luck to Eddie in all seriousness, good dude and maybe he can rejuv his career with Shanny.

Pony Boy
03-13-2012, 06:18 PM
Goodbye Eddie

houghtam
03-13-2012, 06:27 PM
Most tebowites weren't around for royals rookie year so they don't know much about him other than what they saw this year.

37 catches. Royal's a bum.

Cito Pelon
03-13-2012, 06:29 PM
Peyton didn't want Royal.

SoCalBronco
03-13-2012, 06:39 PM
Shanny will utilize him great as he did before. I'm really excited for Eddie. That would be great if he signed there.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
37 catches. Royal's a bum.

I like how you left off his special teams production. I remember him single handily beat the chargers with punt and kick returns.

But now we can put D Thomas back there so he can rip another Achilles. Or Willis back there to muff a punt at the 3 yard line.

Garcia Bronco
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
Now who will be The Two Taco Prince of Denver?

razorwire77
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
Oh noes. Wherever will we find another mediocre receiver/decent returner?

houghtam
03-13-2012, 06:54 PM
I like how you left off his special teams production. I remember him single handily beat the chargers with punt and kick returns.

But now we can put D Thomas back there so he can rip another Achilles. Or Willis back there to muff a punt at the 3 yard line.

And that's worth $6 million a year? How?

broncogary
03-13-2012, 06:55 PM
I don't like the way his helmet fits.

Blart will probably say he has sharp knees.

Archer81
03-13-2012, 06:55 PM
Most tebowites weren't around for royals rookie year so they don't know much about him other than what they saw this year.


Yeah. 90 catches 5 years ago is absolutely worth 6/mil a season.

:Broncos:

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 06:57 PM
37 catches. Royal's a bum.

126 completions for a whopping 46.5% completion percentage (2011 season). Tebow's a bum.

EDIT: In defense of Tebow, nothing is ever his fault and is always somebody else's fault.

Archer81
03-13-2012, 07:04 PM
126 completions for a whopping 46.5% completion percentage (2011 season). Tebow's a bum.

EDIT: In defense of Tebow, nothing is ever his fault and is always somebody else's fault.


123 completions for a 47% comp percentage. (1983 season). That Elway was a bum, huh.

Dumbass.

:Broncos:

houghtam
03-13-2012, 07:09 PM
123 completions for a 47% comp percentage. (1983 season). That Elway was a bum, huh.

Dumbass.

:Broncos:

Nope you can't use Elway as a measuring stick NOPE NOPENOPE

Archer81
03-13-2012, 07:13 PM
Nope you can't use Elway as a measuring stick NOPE NOPENOPE


I know. Apparently QB's are supposed to come out and win 12-15 games and have a 60% comp percentage before fans will think they are A-OK. A college player needing work to be a pro? UNTHINKABLE...


:Broncos:

RaiderH8r
03-13-2012, 07:14 PM
126 completions for a whopping 46.5% completion percentage (2011 season). Tebow's a bum.

EDIT: In defense of Tebow, nothing is ever his fault and is always somebody else's fault.

You just got owned.

jhns
03-13-2012, 07:16 PM
Royal will be much better with Shanahan. Good luck to him.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 07:20 PM
Yeah. 90 catches 5 years ago is absolutely worth 6/mil a season.

:Broncos:

Like I said, thats the last time he had a decent QB.

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 07:21 PM
123 completions for a 47% comp percentage. (1983 season). That Elway was a bum, huh.

Dumbass.

:Broncos:

Apparently your dumb ass has never watched Elway play. Let me fill you in dumbass even when he was young and had poor stats he had a rocket arm and a great throwing motion, to go along with great athleticism. You are comparing a Ferrari to a Dodge Neon with racing stripes painted on it.

It was a different era in which the receivers were allowed to be mugged and Quarterbacks were beaten to death every game. Tebow plays in the sissy two hand touch era and still cant produce. If you think Elway and Tebow are comparable your are a ****ing idiot.

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 07:22 PM
Like I said, thats the last time he had a decent QB.

He is making more then Wayne.

RaiderH8r
03-13-2012, 07:23 PM
Apparently your dumb ass has never watched Elway play. Let me fill you in dumbass even when he was young and had poor stats he had a rocket arm and a great throwing motion, to go along with great athleticism. You are comparing a Ferrari to a Dodge Neon with racing stripes painted on it.

It was a different era in which the receivers were allowed to be mugged and Quarterbacks were beaten to death every game. Tebow plays in the sissy two hand touch era and still cant produce. If you think Elway and Tebow are comparable your are a ****ing idiot.

Live by the stats, die by the stats.

Archer81
03-13-2012, 07:27 PM
Apparently your dumb ass has never watched Elway play. Let me fill you in dumbass even when he was young and had poor stats he had a rocket arm and a great throwing motion, to go along with great athleticism. You are comparing a Ferrari to a Dodge Neon with racing stripes painted on it.

It was a different era in which the receivers were allowed to be mugged and Quarterbacks were beaten to death every game. Tebow plays in the sissy two hand touch era and still cant produce. If you think Elway and Tebow are comparable your are a ****ing idiot.


Yes. I am only 15 years old and never saw Elway play. Dumbass.

Be dumb somewhere else dude. Elway's first 2 seasons he passed for 4200 yards, had 23 td's and 29 int's and was sacked 52 times. These are things called numbers, which are a record of what Elway did. He looked raw at times. He looked like he would NEVER be an NFL QB. The talent was obvious.

And **** off with the different era argument. No matter the era rookies/2nd year players look raw. Only a ****ing twit thinks otherwise.

:Broncos:

rugbythug
03-13-2012, 07:28 PM
Like I said, thats the last time he had a decent QB.

Brandon Lloyd thinks your full of crap.

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 07:29 PM
You just got owned.

yeaaaa Its because Tebow is the next John Elway that the Broncos are opening cheating on him with Peyton Manning. If he had HALF the potential of Elway maybe... wait for it... ELWAY wouldn't be looking for a new QB.

By the way Elways SECOND year he threw for 214 56%... This was Tebows second year in the league right??

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 07:31 PM
Yes. I am only 15 years old and never saw Elway play.
:Broncos:

Well then I understand why you think Elway and Tebow are in the same class.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 07:32 PM
Brandon Lloyd thinks your full of crap.

Apparently Lloyd thinks McDamit is God so what's that say about him? Not like he wanted to stick around.

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 07:32 PM
yeaaaa Its because Tebow is the next John Elway that the Broncos are opening cheating on him with Peyton Manning. If he had HALF the potential of Elway maybe... wait for it... ELWAY wouldn't be looking for a new QB.

By the way Elways SECOND year he threw for 214 56%... This was Tebows second year in the league right??

JJ also played 11 games his rookie year. Dumbass.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 07:34 PM
Yes. I am only 15 years old and never saw Elway play. Dumbass.

Be dumb somewhere else dude. Elway's first 2 seasons he passed for 4200 yards, had 23 td's and 29 int's and was sacked 52 times. These are things called numbers, which are a record of what Elway did. He looked raw at times. He looked like he would NEVER be an NFL QB. The talent was obvious.

And **** off with the different era argument. No matter the era rookies/2nd year players look raw. Only a ****ing twit thinks otherwise.

:Broncos:

15??? That explains it. Elway was a rookie in 83. In the super bowl in 86. Get out of here with that crap bozo

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 07:34 PM
Apparently Lloyd thinks McDamit is God so what's that say about him? Not like he wanted to stick around.

What about Orton sending Marshall to the pro bowl? He sent two WRs in three years to the pro bowl and pretty much gave them their best years in the NFL.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 07:35 PM
You aren't 15

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 07:36 PM
What about Orton sending Marshall to the pro bowl? He sent two WRs in three years to the pro bowl and pretty much gave them their best years in the NFL.

He also took home several middle aged blonde skanks from LoDo. Are you saying Orton was actually great?

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 07:37 PM
JJ also played 11 games his rookie year. Dumbass.

Yea I know he didnt get to sit back and watch somebody else play his whole rookie year and get a feel for the game. Good point, Tebow shouldn't have been such a ****ty QB with all that time to learn the game. Dumbass.

jhns
03-13-2012, 07:37 PM
You aren't 15

You are special.

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 07:40 PM
He also took home several middle aged blonde skanks from LoDo. Are you saying Orton was actually great?

No, but when two WR's have career years with him it pretty much throws out your argument that it was everyone but Royal's fault.

Archer81
03-13-2012, 07:41 PM
15??? That explains it. Elway was a rookie in 83. In the super bowl in 86. Get out of here with that crap bozo


...

Jesus. Christ.

:Broncos:

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 07:44 PM
...

Jesus. Christ.

:Broncos:

Tebow wouldnt 'preciate you taking his Lord and Saviors name in vane.

jhns
03-13-2012, 07:44 PM
No, but when two WR's have career years with him it pretty much throws out your argument that it was everyone but Royal's fault.

We will sure see about this. It will be interesting to see how productive he is this year.

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 07:45 PM
Yea I know he didnt get to sit back and watch somebody else play his whole rookie year and get a feel for the game. Good point, Tebow shouldn't have been such a ****ty QB with all that time to learn the game. Dumbass.

Well if we're really talking 'rookie' years, Tebow hit 50% in year 1.

So I guess Teebs had a better rookie year than JohnJohn.

Archer81
03-13-2012, 07:46 PM
Tebow wouldnt 'preciate you taking his Lord and Saviors name in vane.


Vain, ****nut. You are not smart enough for this back and forth, giggles.


:Broncos:

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 07:49 PM
Well if we're really talking 'rookie' years, Tebow hit 50% in year 1.

So I guess Teebs had a better rookie year than JohnJohn.

Its pretty remarkable how Tebow got worse his second year in the league.

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 07:50 PM
Its pretty remarkable how Tebow got worse his second year in the league.

It is. But if you watched the gameplans (and had a brain) you'd understand.

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 07:50 PM
Vain, ****nut. You are not smart enough for this back and forth, giggles.


:Broncos:

Says the ass hat that thinks Tebow is as good as Elway.

snowspot66
03-13-2012, 07:51 PM
Like I said, thats the last time he had a decent QB.

Didn't stop Lloyd from having the best year of any receiver in the league back in 2010.

txtebow
03-13-2012, 07:51 PM
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BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 07:51 PM
Says the ass hat that thinks Tebow is as good as Elway.

Gabbert's where it's at, right jerky?

jhns
03-13-2012, 07:53 PM
Its pretty remarkable how Tebow got worse his second year in the league.

That never happens when you give away both starting recievers, without bringing a single one in. It also happens when you have to carry one of the worst teams in the league. He reakly wasn't worse. You just don't understand this sport.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 07:53 PM
Didn't stop Lloyd from having the best year of any receiver in the league back in 2010.

When you down 30 points by halftime sometimes a Wrs stats get padded. You can look to Marshall 20 rec game as an example.

txtebow
03-13-2012, 07:54 PM
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a young Elway. The differences between he and Tebow are VERY apparent. Tebow does not have Elways physical gifts.....IE Arm strength period. But he does have adequate arm strength. Tebow is a project nothing more. Hopefully he grows into a Mark Brunell type at a minimum.

Archer81
03-13-2012, 07:54 PM
Says the ass hat that thinks Tebow is as good as Elway.


Good luck finding where I ever said that. I believe Tebow is good. I believe he needs the time to develop. Only with pig****ing geniuses like yourself does that automatically equal I think Tebow is the greatest ever.

****tard.

:Broncos:

txtebow
03-13-2012, 07:55 PM
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Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 07:55 PM
Gabbert's where it's at, right jerky?

Well according to you if Blaine Gabbert was your sons favorite player he should be guaranteed a starting job with the Broncos no matter how bad he is. Does Gabbert sucking make it ok for Tebow to suck, or are you just tired of using the its everyone's fault except Tebow defense, so you're switching to the you thought a first round pick rookie QB would be better than Tebow defense?

They both suck. I was wrong about Gabbert, he looks like ****. Ok now its your turn.

snowspot66
03-13-2012, 07:55 PM
When you down 30 points by halftime sometimes a Wrs stats get padded. You can look to Marshall 20 rec game as an example.

Eddie started dropping balls left and right. There's no denying it. We all saw it and it started before this past season. I don't know what started it but he's never been the same guy from his rookie season.

txtebow
03-13-2012, 07:56 PM
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Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 07:56 PM
Eddie started dropping balls left and right. There's no denying it. We all saw it and it started before this past season. I don't know what started it but he's never been the same guy from his rookie season.

I thought 59 catches was pretty decent.

snowspot66
03-13-2012, 07:57 PM
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a young Elway. The differences between he and Tebow are VERY apparent. Tebow does not have Elways physical gifts.....IE Arm strength period. But he does have adequate arm strength. Tebow is a project nothing more. Hopefully he grows into a Mark Brunell type at a minimum.

A project yes. But not one you give up on after a year of starting on a seriously talent deficient team. He's no 7th round flyer. He's arguably the greatest college player of all time.

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 07:57 PM
15??? That explains it. Elway was a rookie in 83. In the super bowl in 86. Get out of here with that crap bozo

Maybe in 2 years you'll have something to talk about.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 08:02 PM
A project yes. But not one you give up on after a year of starting on a seriously talent deficient team. He's no 7th round flyer. He's arguably the greatest college player of all time.

Key word. College. I could say that about a lot of QBs that didn't stick around. Top 10 greatest college QBs i see Matt Leinhart. I see tebow. I see ken Dorsey. Weurfel Vince young. Frazier. Brennen.

These aren't great NFL names

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 08:02 PM
Good luck finding where I ever said that. I believe Tebow is good. I believe he needs the time to develop. Only with pig****ing geniuses like yourself does that automatically equal I think Tebow is the greatest ever.

****tard.

:Broncos:

So why bring up Elway if you dont think they are close to the same caliber of player? Why the **** would you bring up a Hall of Fame Quarterback that came into the league with a great arm and throwing ability and compare him to a guy that obviously isn't even close to the having the same skill set? A guy known for overcoming his throwing abilities by running? Why would you compare them? If you want to compare Tebow to Vince Young or some other quarterback that had questionable ability to throw the ball coming into the league fine... But you chose to compare him to the greatest throwing prospect of all time....

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 08:04 PM
Key word. College. I could say that about a lot of QBs that didn't stick around.

Might be able to say it about the guy the Colts cut Peypey for in a few years.

houghtam
03-13-2012, 08:04 PM
So why bring up Elway if you dont think they are close to the same caliber of player? Why the **** would you bring up a Hall of Fame Quarterback that came into the league with a great arm and throwing ability and compare him to a guy that obviously isn't even close to the having the same skill set? A guy known for overcoming his throwing abilities by running? Why would you compare them? If you want to compare Tebow to Vince Young or some other quarterback that had questionable ability to throw the ball coming into the league fine... But you chose to compare him to the greatest throwing prospect of all time....

Because it's a perfect example of the fact that low completion percentage in the first 16 games of your career does not necessarily point to failure.

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 08:08 PM
Because it's a perfect example of the fact that low completion percentage in the first 16 games of your career does not necessarily point to failure.

See exhibit Manning, Eli. But I've said that before, and I'm done wasting my breath. Arguing with Turd is aptly enough like debating a loaf of ****.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 08:08 PM
Might be able to say it about the guy the Colts cut Peypey for in a few years.

Nah ive watched him in person for years in palo alto. He never ran a college offense. Harbaugh was running an nfl offense.

He's got a better chance to succeed just based on that. He's coming out of college knowing how to do a center to QB exchange.

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 08:10 PM
Nah ive watched him in person for years in palo alto. He never ran a college offense. Harbaugh was running an nfl offense.

He's got a better chance to succeed just based on that. He's coming out of college knowing how to do a center to QB exchange.

Meh. Pac 10/12 is pretty suspect.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 08:11 PM
Meh. Pac 10/12 is pretty suspect.

There's an arguement there as far as competition. But I wouldn't bet against him.

lonestar
03-13-2012, 08:14 PM
Most tebowites weren't around for royals rookie year so they don't know much about him other than what they saw this year.

evne those who have been Bronco fans since 1960 know that he has disappeared after a brilliant rookie season..

Most think it was because all teh DC's figured out how to cover him..

others think he is a head case and short arms a lot of balls..

and still others think he just wanted out fo DEN after mikey left..

my bad got his ass fired because he was a tool without John as his QB..

lonestar
03-13-2012, 08:18 PM
Yeah. 90 catches 5 years ago is absolutely worth 6/mil a season.

:Broncos:

it was 4 years ago he had a great season.. sonce then Career Stats more
Season Team Receiving Rushing Fumbles
G GS Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Att Yds Avg Lng TD FUM Lost
2011 Denver Broncos 12 8 19 155 8.2 26T 1 7 48 6.9 11 0 -- --
2010 Denver Broncos 16 10 59 627 10.6 41 3 6 61 10.2 20 0 4 2
2009 Denver Broncos 14 12 37 345 9.3 20 0 1 1 1.0 1 0 1 0
2008 Denver Broncos 15 15 91 980 10.8 93T 5 11 109 9.9 71 0 2 1
TOTAL 206 2,107 10.2 93 9 25 219 8.8 71 0 7 3

not so much..

had 91 in his first year and since 105..

hmmm missed 19 games over his career..

I will not miss his disappointing ass.

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 08:21 PM
Because it's a perfect example of the fact that low completion percentage in the first 16 games of your career does not necessarily point to failure.

Yes but while Elway had a low completion percentage, did anyone ever question he had all the tools to fix it? Tebow is wildly inaccurate, he does not have the arm strength to make up for poor decision making, and he has never played in a pro style offense. They didn't have to run an option style offense for Elway. They aren't similar players except that they had low completion percentages their rookie year.

houghtam
03-13-2012, 08:24 PM
Yes but while Elway had a low completion percentage, did anyone ever question he had all the tools to fix it? Tebow is wildly inaccurate, he does not have the arm strength to make up for poor decision making, and he has never played in a pro style offense. They didn't have to run an option style offense for Elway. They aren't similar players except that they had low completion percentages their rookie year.

You're absolutely wrong about Tebow's arm strength. He does need to improve on his accuracy, which many agree is a result of his footwork and throwing motion, which many also agree can be improved with work. Decision making can also be improved with work, as well as adapting to a more pro style offense.

So what a lot of people are saying is:

*deep breath*

Let's just see what Tebow can do with a full offseason of work.

For the millionth time.

Requiem
03-13-2012, 08:29 PM
eddie Royal is like a fart in a whirlwind. that is all.

goodbye eddie, i can't believe we picked desean jackson over you. ****ing SAD.

tchus!!!

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 08:30 PM
What's disappointing is we are talking about players we lost or will lose instead of players we signed. Whats up with the lack of activity? All the eggs in Mannings basket or will they actually look at some players. just Brandon Meri is sad.

lonestar
03-13-2012, 08:31 PM
126 completions for a whopping 46.5% completion percentage (2011 season). Tebow's a bum.

EDIT: In defense of Tebow, nothing is ever his fault and is always somebody else's fault.

now if he would have completed just 30 more and lets say that conservatively that is the only dropped balls he had he is a 58% passer.

Hell that surprised puts him at the same percentage as cutlet.. wonder boy who so many pine for..

sorry about that.. wonder how many huevous shrunk up on that fact..

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 08:33 PM
See exhibit Manning, Eli. But I've said that before, and I'm done wasting my breath. Arguing with Turd is aptly enough like debating a loaf of ****.

Eli is a much much more realistic comparison than Elway. Although he was also touted as a high level passer coming into the league.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 08:34 PM
now if he would have completed just 30 more and lets say that conservatively that is the only dropped balls he had he is a 58% passer.

Hell that surprised puts him at the same percentage as cutlet.. wonder boy who so many pine for..

sorry about that.. wonder how many huevous shrunk up on that fact..

30 more completions for tebow would take like 5 more games.

lonestar
03-13-2012, 08:38 PM
yeaaaa Its because Tebow is the next John Elway that the Broncos are opening cheating on him with Peyton Manning. If he had HALF the potential of Elway maybe... wait for it... ELWAY wouldn't be looking for a new QB.

By the way Elways SECOND year he threw for 214 56%... This was Tebows second year in the league right??

IIRC it is actually Tebows first IF you consider that he got NO reps int eh first 13 games last year and the first 5 games his year not to mention ZERO offseason between years 1-2..

How abouts we compare after this season..

BTW Elway was not a 60%+ guy till ten year into his career..

Requiem
03-13-2012, 08:38 PM
now if he would have completed just 30 more and lets say that conservatively that is the only dropped balls he had he is a 58% passer.

Hell that surprised puts him at the same percentage as cutlet.. wonder boy who so many pine for..

sorry about that.. wonder how many huevous shrunk up on that fact..

The Broncos and Bears both had 28 drops on the year as a team. Neither Cutler or Tebow played the whole season.

Cutler's numbers get into the 60s for last season and Tebow's still stays terrible.

What kind of argument/fact is that?

Requiem
03-13-2012, 08:40 PM
30 more completions for tebow would take like 5 more games.

Probably.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 08:40 PM
IIRC it is actually Tebows first IF you consider that he got NO reps int eh first 13 games last year and the first 5 games his year not to mention ZERO offseason between years 1-2..

How abouts we compare after this season..

BTW Elway was not a 60%+ guy till ten year into his career..

Maybe you should compare 3 and outs.

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 08:44 PM
You're absolutely wrong about Tebow's arm strength. He does need to improve on his accuracy, which many agree is a result of his footwork and throwing motion, which many also agree can be improved with work. Decision making can also be improved with work, as well as adapting to a more pro style offense.

So what a lot of people are saying is:

*deep breath*

Let's just see what Tebow can do with a full offseason of work.

For the millionth time.

Tebow seems to generate his throwing power through his huge wind up, where as Elway had more throwing power with a shorter wind up. Maybe Tebow can fix his throwing problems, I have no crystal ball to tell you 100% he won't, but when's the last time you saw someone with the defects he has that turned out to be a franchise QB.. I just can't compare him to Elway, a guy that had all the tools and just needed time to adapt to the NFL. Tebow has physical and mental defects he needs to fix. Elway did not have this much stacked against him. Is it so horrible to take the gamble that Tebow wont pan out? If they get Manning then its best for the Broncos AND Tebow that he goes to a new team. That's my opinion I'm sure someone that has faith in Tebow becoming a solid QB will have a much different one.

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 08:44 PM
Maybe you should compare 3 and outs.

Yeah, because Tebow's number of run/run/throw on 3rd and 12's is relevant.

~Crash~
03-13-2012, 08:51 PM
I think the people that have stated that Royal did nothing for this team are full of **** no Royal no steelers win he won several games with his ST's also

lonestar
03-13-2012, 08:53 PM
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at the 7:30 mark the comment was John in his fourth year was no longer tenative and indecisive..

I suppose that Tebow can't have the same time frame.. but in basically year one should have killed it..

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 09:00 PM
at the 7:30 mark the comment was John in his fourth year was no longer tenative and indecisive..

I suppose that Tebow can't have the same time frame.. but in basically year one should have killed it..

They still say the same crap about Jason Campbell.. He's had a different OC every year he has played. If he could just get some stability and some time he could be good. Yes I know Campbell has been around for years and this will be Tebows third year, but they said the same things when Campbell was in HIS third year and look how he has turned out.

houghtam
03-13-2012, 09:14 PM
They still say the same crap about Jason Campbell.. He's had a different OC every year he has played. If he could just get some stability and some time he could be good. Yes I know Campbell has been around for years and this will be Tebows third year, but they said the same things when Campbell was in HIS third year and look how he has turned out.

Long term QBs NOT named John Elway who had 50% or less completion % in their first year (or two):

Vinny Testaverde
Bernie Kosar
Boomer Esiason
Phil Simms
Randall Cunningham

Let's try this again. We're not saying Tim Tebow is John Elway. We're saying that first year completion percentage is not necessarily an indicator of future success. I'd be willing to bet that first year completion percentage has much less effect on future success than building a team around the strengths of the quarterback does.

lonestar
03-13-2012, 09:18 PM
Long term QBs NOT named John Elway who had 50% or less completion % in their first year (or two):

Vinny Testaverde
Bernie Kosar
Boomer Esiason
Phil Simms
Randall Cunningham

Let's try this again. We're not saying Tim Tebow is John Elway. We're saying that first year completion percentage is not necessarily an indicator of future success. I'd be willing to bet that first year completion percentage has much less effect on future success than building a team around the strengths of the quarterback does.

hey now being logical..

no one is listening..


at least none of the morons are..

barryr
03-13-2012, 09:19 PM
Long term QBs NOT named John Elway who had 50% or less completion % in their first year (or two):

Vinny Testaverde
Bernie Kosar
Boomer Esiason
Phil Simms
Randall Cunningham

Let's try this again. We're not saying Tim Tebow is John Elway. We're saying that first year completion percentage is not necessarily an indicator of future success. I'd be willing to bet that first year completion percentage has much less effect on future success than building a team around the strengths of the quarterback does.

Eli Manning started 7 games his first year and complete 48% of his passes. The next year as a starter for all 16 games he completed 52.8%, so he hardly got off to a great start himself, but has 2 rings now.

strafen
03-13-2012, 09:46 PM
I think the people that have stated that Royal did nothing for this team are full of **** no Royal no steelers win he won several games with his ST's also

Royal wasn't much involved on the offense when McDaniels was here.
He saw more action on ST and for most parts, he delivered a decent performance.
He would do better under Shanahan in the same system he netted 91 catches in his rookie season...

houghtam
03-13-2012, 09:57 PM
Royal wasn't much involved on the offense when McDaniels was here.
He saw more action on ST and for most parts, he delivered a decent performance.
He would do better under Shanahan in the same system he netted 91 catches in his rookie season...

So when he ends 2012 with 46 catches is the excuse going to be that he had a rookie QB, and NEXT year (his 6th) will be his breakout year?

sinuous sausage
03-13-2012, 10:11 PM
I like Eddie Royal. I've been creepbook friends w/ him for a couple years now and he's genuinely a nice gay. He definitely had his moments: the monster game out of the gate against the NorCal Incarcerated, KR/PR for TD against SD on MNF (acronym much?), Taco Bell commercials. Yeah, good luck as a Redskin, dude.

From what I've gleaned in this thread, there's still people out there under the impression that Tesus is the worst QB in history and a blight on our franchise. These people are idiots.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 10:14 PM
I like Eddie Royal. I've been creepbook friends w/ him for a couple years now and he's genuinely a nice gay. He definitely had his moments: the monster game out of the gate against the NorCal Incarcerated, KR/PR for TD against SD on MNF (acronym much?), Taco Bell commercials. Yeah, good luck as a Redskin, dude.

From what I've gleaned in this thread, there's still people out there under the impression that Tesus is the worst QB in history and a blight on our franchise. These people are idiots.

As idiotic as calling royal a gay?

KevinJames
03-13-2012, 10:15 PM
Funny how multiple teams want Royal even though hes a scrub right?!?!

Makes sense. The NFL isn't stupid.

If Royal was as horrible as people make him out to be he would def not be getting interest day 1 of free agency.....

houghtam
03-13-2012, 10:18 PM
Funny how multiple teams want Royal even though hes a scrub right?!?!

Makes sense. The NFL isn't stupid.

If Royal was as horrible as people make him out to be he would def not be getting interest day 1 of free agency.....

Yeah dude Josh Morgan and Jason Campbell were signed today too. Day 1 of free agency.....

cousinal11
03-13-2012, 10:19 PM
Tebow seems to generate his throwing power through his huge wind up, where as Elway had more throwing power with a shorter wind up. Maybe Tebow can fix his throwing problems, I have no crystal ball to tell you 100% he won't, but when's the last time you saw someone with the defects he has that turned out to be a franchise QB.. I just can't compare him to Elway, a guy that had all the tools and just needed time to adapt to the NFL. Tebow has physical and mental defects he needs to fix. Elway did not have this much stacked against him. Is it so horrible to take the gamble that Tebow wont pan out? If they get Manning then its best for the Broncos AND Tebow that he goes to a new team. That's my opinion I'm sure someone that has faith in Tebow becoming a solid QB will have a much different one.

Agreed

sinuous sausage
03-13-2012, 10:21 PM
The kid took over a team that had gone 5-16 in its last 21 games, went on an 8-5 run into the divisional round of the playoffs, with passing numbers not historically anomalous to those of a young first-round QB, presented a unique wrinkle to opposing Ds with his rushing ability, and accomplished all this with a new HC and an offseason lockout. He's also arguably the most marketable athlete on the planet right meow. I, for one, think it reasonable to give him a shot in 2012.

SoCalBronco
03-13-2012, 10:22 PM
Funny how multiple teams want Royal even though hes a scrub right?!?!

Makes sense. The NFL isn't stupid.

If Royal was as horrible as people make him out to be he would def not be getting interest day 1 of free agency.....

It's hard to ignore the basic logic in this argument.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 10:23 PM
The kid took over a team that had gone 5-16 in its last 21 games, went on an 8-5 run into the divisional round of the playoffs, with passing numbers not historically anomalous to those of a young first-round QB, presented a unique wrinkle to opposing Ds with his rushing ability, and accomplished all this with a new HC and an offseason lockout. He's also arguably the most marketable athlete on the planet right meow. I, for one, think it reasonable to give him a shot in 2012.

These weren't convincing wins. With manning you are playing with the lead. With tebow you are playing from behind. Teams figured him out which resulted in 1-4. 1-5 had Marion barber not burped twice in one game.

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 10:24 PM
Long term QBs NOT named John Elway who had 50% or less completion % in their first year (or two):

Vinny Testaverde
Bernie Kosar
Boomer Esiason
Phil Simms
Randall Cunningham

Let's try this again. We're not saying Tim Tebow is John Elway. We're saying that first year completion percentage is not necessarily an indicator of future success. I'd be willing to bet that first year completion percentage has much less effect on future success than building a team around the strengths of the quarterback does.

You guys act like no one understands what you are getting at.. YES TEBOW IS YOUNG AND EVERY YOUNG QUARTERBACK STRUGGLES! That is crystal clear. What you refuse to ever consider, is that he does not have the same tools to work with that those quarterbacks did. Kosar was ugly and could be comparable to Tebow. The others would be insulted if you compared their skill set to Tebow. He has had his whole life to work on his throwing motion and hasn't been able to do it. That tells me that he either doesn't think it needs to change because he is good enough as it is, or that it cant be changed. I'm well aware NFL Quarterbacks get better with experience. I don't think he has the tools to be an NFL Quarterback. If you run flat footed your whole life you don't just start running on your toes over night... Shaq never got good at free throws.. Mark McGwire would never have been a lead off hitter.. Wayne Gretzky could not play goalie.. Vince Young will never be a franchise QB... Are you all saying you think Tebow will just will himself to change two plus decades of bad habits?? If so why didn't guys like Byron Leftwich just change their throwing motion? If footwork is so easily fixed why don't all QBs have footwork like Peyton Manning?

Chris
03-13-2012, 10:24 PM
Funny how multiple teams want Royal even though hes a scrub right?!?!

Makes sense. The NFL isn't stupid.

If Royal was as horrible as people make him out to be he would def not be getting interest day 1 of free agency.....

The NFL can overpay for potential. They were aware of Royal's rookie year and think Denver may have just been a bad scheme fit since then. They also need ST guys. Personally, I don't think the scheme could mask the fact that Royal is average at best (maybe above on ST).

Chris
03-13-2012, 10:25 PM
If you run flat footed your whole life you don't just start running on your toes over night...

I did. Are you saying Tebow needs vibrams?

strafen
03-13-2012, 10:26 PM
So when he ends 2012 with 46 catches is the excuse going to be that he had a rookie QB, and NEXT year (his 6th) will be his breakout year?
What could he be, a 3rd receiver at best on the team, and you're bitching if he gets 46 catches?
It's stupid to expect number one receiver type production out of Royal. He's not a number one receiver...

The way I see it is that he was not under the greatest circumstances post-Shanahan era.
Hopefully he finds a role with the skins that suits him better.

That's not excuses, that's how it is...

cousinal11
03-13-2012, 10:26 PM
The kid took over a team that had gone 5-16 in its last 21 games, went on an 8-5 run into the divisional round of the playoffs, with passing numbers not historically anomalous to those of a young first-round QB, presented a unique wrinkle to opposing Ds with his rushing ability, and accomplished all this with a new HC and an offseason lockout. He's also arguably the most marketable athlete on the planet right meow. I, for one, think it reasonable to give him a shot in 2012.

The wildcat worked for a year in Miami also but I think last year was as far as we can go with Tebow, BUT it was awesome. I like the guy, I wish him nothing but the best either in Denver or somewhere else. How can you not at least respect and pull for a guy like that?

Signing Peyton, drafting a QB 2-6 to learn behind Peyton the next few years and trading Tebow to Jacksonville for a 2-4 pick to save that franchise would be perfect for everyone in my opinion. On that note, it's not a perfect world we live in and who the heck knows what the future has in store for us fans.

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 10:29 PM
It's hard to ignore the basic logic in this argument.

So the guys that got signed day one are the elite players?

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 10:30 PM
The wildcat worked for a year in Miami also but I think last year was as far as we can go with Tebow, BUT it was awesome. I like the guy, I wish him nothing but the best either in Denver or somewhere else. How can you not at least respect and pull for a guy like that?

Signing Peyton, drafting a QB 2-6 to learn behind Peyton the next few years and trading Tebow to Jacksonville for a 2-4 pick to save that franchise would be perfect for everyone in my opinion. On that note, it's not a perfect world we live in and who the heck knows what the future has in store for us fans.

Yes, the guy that spent his whole college career throwing to 3 and 4 wideouts... has hit his nfl ceiling trying to wedge balls in to 2WR's and no TE's. That's the best he can ever do. The team has done everything it can.

KevinJames
03-13-2012, 10:32 PM
Im bitter **** it I won't even lie I am going to bump the **** out of this thread when Royal has a great season w/ his next team.

cousinal11
03-13-2012, 10:34 PM
Yes, the guy that spent his whole college career throwing to 3 and 4 wideouts... has hit his nfl ceiling trying to wedge balls in to 2WR's and no TE's. That's the best he can ever do. The team has done everything it can.

Did you see what happened when an elite coach (Belichick) prepared for that offense in the playoffs last year?

Like AC Slater & Jessie sang at the prom Kelly Kapowski & Zack missed because Kelly's Dad got fired, "Did we ever have a chance?" -- Nope

Turd_Ferguson
03-13-2012, 10:36 PM
Im bitter **** it I won't even lie I am going to bump the **** out of this thread when Royal has a great season w/ his next team.

I really liked Royal. He didnt complain or cause problems, kept his nose clean. Didn't cry around that he wasn't a big enough part of the offense. I dont know how good he will be next year.. I think he will do well, but I'm very confident Shanny will definitely give him every opportunity to give you cause to bump this thread.

barryr
03-13-2012, 10:37 PM
Im bitter **** it I won't even lie I am going to bump the **** out of this thread when Royal has a great season w/ his next team.

If the Skins plan to have Royal run 5 yard patterns and sit in zones over the middle, he could do great since that is about all he ever did with the Broncos and that includes his rookie year. Royal had over 90 catches that year but still didn't reach 1,000 yards receiving.

BroncoBeavis
03-13-2012, 10:38 PM
Did you see what happened when an elite coach (Belichick) prepared for that offense in the playoffs last year?

Like AC Slater & Jessie sang at the prom Kelly Kapowski & Zack missed because Kelly's Dad got fired, "Did we ever have a chance?" -- Nope

I think you're just reenforcing my point. Our problem is more than 50 percent scheme.

DBroncos4life
03-13-2012, 10:39 PM
Im bitter **** it I won't even lie I am going to bump the **** out of this thread when Royal has a great season w/ his next team.

whats a great season for him?

sinuous sausage
03-13-2012, 10:39 PM
These weren't convincing wins. With manning you are playing with the lead. With tebow you are playing from behind. Teams figured him out which resulted in 1-4. 1-5 had Marion barber not burped twice in one game.

You do realize Tebow in 2011 ~ Manning in 1999, yes? That's the comparison I'm making.

The better QB right now is PM. The best QB ever might be PM. Alas, he's old, and this team kinda sucks.

My point is how any argument that posits Denver to be any sort of SB contender w/ PM is hogwash, and since we're still nowhere near the big boys in the league in terms of team skill and depth, the minute gains we'd witness in the short term if they swapped out PM for TT won't outweigh the potential gains we'd witness if Tim works out. Which, as I've stated above, there is evidence he has the ability to be a force in the league, raw as he is.

Unless you're one of those who are just using Peyton as a smokescreen for irrational Tebow hate. Which is, in fact, idiotic.

cousinal11
03-13-2012, 10:39 PM
I really liked Royal. He didnt complain or cause problems, kept his nose clean. Didn't cry around that he wasn't a big enough part of the offense.

Totally agree, loved me some Eddie. His first game on MNF against Oakland, the game against SD when we went for 2 and won & the 2 specials team TD game on MNF to beat SD are all legendary. I wish him nothing but the best but 6 mil a year is pricey this day and age.

Dr. Broncenstein
03-13-2012, 10:41 PM
Im bitter **** it I won't even lie I am going to bump the **** out of this thread when Royal has a great season w/ his next team.

Cry about it some more, emo girl.

KevinJames
03-13-2012, 10:43 PM
Cry about it some more, emo girl.

I will thanks!:curtsey:

cousinal11
03-13-2012, 10:45 PM
...nevermind...

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-13-2012, 10:52 PM
You do realize Tebow in 2011 ~ Manning in 1999, yes? That's the comparison I'm making.

The better QB right now is PM. The best QB ever might be PM. Alas, he's old, and this team kinda sucks.

My point is how any argument that posits Denver to be any sort of SB contender w/ PM is hogwash, and since we're still nowhere near the big boys in the league in terms of team skill and depth, the minute gains we'd witness in the short term if they swapped out PM for TT won't outweigh the potential gains we'd witness if Tim works out. Which, as I've stated above, there is evidence he has the ability to be a force in the league, raw as he is.

Unless you're one of those who are just using Peyton as a smokescreen for irrational Tebow hate. Which is, in fact, idiotic.

What I realize is that they made QB the number 1 priority in scouting this year , and now FA , and most likely the draft. If it ain't manning it's gonna be someone else. So Id rather it be manning

Requiem
03-13-2012, 11:02 PM
this thread is going to be longer than his nfl career if you bozos don't shut the **** up.

who cares.

desean jackson over this turd who has a dumb james bond movie nickname.

eddie mac
03-13-2012, 11:33 PM
He hasn't signed for anyone yet and the $6m per year is Morgan's contract. Let's hope though he does get something like that cos it would be around 4th/5th rd compensation if the Broncos dont give a similar deal to an incoming free agent. Manning wont count considering he was released, neither would Dallas Clark.

houghtam
03-13-2012, 11:39 PM
You guys act like no one understands what you are getting at.. YES TEBOW IS YOUNG AND EVERY YOUNG QUARTERBACK STRUGGLES! That is crystal clear. What you refuse to ever consider, is that he does not have the same tools to work with that those quarterbacks did. Kosar was ugly and could be comparable to Tebow. The others would be insulted if you compared their skill set to Tebow. He has had his whole life to work on his throwing motion and hasn't been able to do it. That tells me that he either doesn't think it needs to change because he is good enough as it is, or that it cant be changed. I'm well aware NFL Quarterbacks get better with experience. I don't think he has the tools to be an NFL Quarterback. If you run flat footed your whole life you don't just start running on your toes over night... Shaq never got good at free throws.. Mark McGwire would never have been a lead off hitter.. Wayne Gretzky could not play goalie.. Vince Young will never be a franchise QB... Are you all saying you think Tebow will just will himself to change two plus decades of bad habits?? If so why didn't guys like Byron Leftwich just change their throwing motion? If footwork is so easily fixed why don't all QBs have footwork like Peyton Manning?

Okay so your argument, as I understand it is as follows:

"Even though he took a 1-4 team to win the division and a playoff game, even though I agree that completion percentage does not necessarily indicate future success, even though the the Broncos wide receivers led the league in drops last year, despite all of these things that could have contributed to Tim Tebow's performance last year, he's not earned a chance to show the team what he can do with a full offseason in the offense and some talent provided on both sides of the ball."

Ohhhhh, okay. Because I thought us "tebonners" were the only ones acting irrationally.

broncocalijohn
03-13-2012, 11:41 PM
How will we ever find a guy to replace his lack of production?

I will miss his returns. Hopefully Squid can help in part of that equation. No hard feelings for Eddie at all. But if Peyton is signing, no excuses from the wide receivers.

Broncomutt
03-14-2012, 05:58 AM
I liked Royal as a kick returner, but lost faith in him as a receiver. Good luck to him, but not too much good luck. :wave:

jhns
03-14-2012, 09:00 AM
What I realize is that they made QB the number 1 priority in scouting this year , and now FA , and most likely the draft. If it ain't manning it's gonna be someone else. So Id rather it be manning

You know their scouting priorities? Do tell...

CEH
03-14-2012, 09:02 AM
I heard the Royal deal is dead. Maybe the thought of playing with Manning has something to do with that

Rohirrim
03-14-2012, 09:05 AM
I liked Royal as a kick returner, but lost faith in him as a receiver. Good luck to him, but not too much good luck. :wave:

I haven't lost faith in Eddie Royal as a receiver. I just figured the current QB couldn't utilize Eddie's skillset properly.

Turd_Ferguson
03-14-2012, 09:25 AM
Okay so your argument, as I understand it is as follows:

"Even though he took a 1-4 team to win the division and a playoff game, even though I agree that completion percentage does not necessarily indicate future success, even though the the Broncos wide receivers led the league in drops last year, despite all of these things that could have contributed to Tim Tebow's performance last year, he's not earned a chance to show the team what he can do with a full offseason in the offense and some talent provided on both sides of the ball."

Ohhhhh, okay. Because I thought us "tebonners" were the only ones acting irrationally.

Yep you much like most Tebow fans just ignore anything negative about Tebow. I said he doesn't have the tools to overcome his issues. Does he deserve to have another year? Not unless you cant find anyone better than him.

Your argument is this then? HE alone took a talentless piece of crap team to the playoffs. His inaccuracy is caused from bad wide receivers and inexperience. And that he has only been in the league for 2 years so he hasn't gotten a chance to fix all his fundamental faults, even though he has been playing football since he was 15 years old. For these reasons the Broncos should stop trying to sign a Hall of Fame QB and hope that Tebow gets better...

houghtam
03-14-2012, 09:29 AM
Yep you much like most Tebow fans just ignore anything negative about Tebow. I said he doesn't have the tools to overcome his issues. Does he deserve to have another year? Not unless you cant find anyone better than him.

Your argument is this then? HE alone took a talentless piece of crap team to the playoffs. His inaccuracy is caused from bad wide receivers and inexperience. And that he has only been in the league for 2 years so he hasn't gotten a chance to fix all his fundamental faults, even though he has been playing football since he was 15 years old. For these reasons the Broncos should stop trying to sign a Hall of Fame QB and hope that Tebow gets better...

Nope, my argument is:

"Because he took a 1-4 team to win the division and a playoff game, because I agree that completion percentage does not necessarily indicate future success, because the the Broncos wide receivers led the league in drops last year, because all of these things that could have contributed to Tim Tebow's performance last year, he's earned a chance to show the team what he can do with a full offseason in the offense and some talent provided on both sides of the ball."

:)

Heyneck
03-14-2012, 09:50 AM
I heard the Royal deal is dead. Maybe the thought of playing with Manning has something to do with that

Or maybe he realized he was offered the #3 or slot position and he is looking for a #2 like when he played with shanny and was successful. With Garcon, Morgan, Moss and Gaffney already on board he could be looking at not his ideal landing place. Even if they cut or trade Moss...Royal would be no better than the #3 or slot receiver.

Rohirrim
03-14-2012, 09:53 AM
Looks like Shanahan is telling Royal he only wants him for kick returns.

bronco militia
03-14-2012, 09:55 AM
Looks like Shanahan is telling Royal he only wants him for kick returns.

$6 million per season?

Rohirrim
03-14-2012, 10:09 AM
$6 million per season?

I thought the 6 mil was Morgan's offer?

Ray Finkle
03-14-2012, 10:15 AM
I thought the 6 mil was Morgan's offer?

morgan got 2/13 I believe.

bronco militia
03-14-2012, 10:37 AM
I thought the 6 mil was Morgan's offer?

2 years $12 million for Royal. But now I'm reading the deal never got done.

someone check eddies face book page. i'm blocked at work

Rohirrim
03-14-2012, 10:38 AM
2 years $12 million for Royal. But now I'm reading the deal never got done.

someone check eddies face book page. i'm blocked at work

This is the worst offseason for sports journalism I've ever seen. The **** is just flying all over the place.

bronco militia
03-14-2012, 10:40 AM
This is the worst offseason for sports journalism I've ever seen. The **** is just flying all over the place.

LOL!

FYI, mike klis sucks

colonelbeef
03-14-2012, 10:51 AM
So the skins got Royal, Morgan, and Garçon. They got the second tier wr's covered. Not mourning him at all son, just curious if anyone has any insight on slot receivers we could be targeting

Garcon has WR1 ability.

Kaylore
03-14-2012, 11:00 AM
this thread is going to be longer than his nfl career if you bozos don't shut the **** up.

who cares.

desean jackson over this turd who has a dumb james bond movie nickname.
rep

Rohirrim
03-14-2012, 11:12 AM
I want the free tacos. :puff:

bronco militia
03-14-2012, 01:25 PM
Broncos free agent Eddie Royal not yet with Washington; still on market


March 14, 2012 8:5 PM GMT Updated:
03/14/2012 02:05:14 PM MDT
By Jeff Legwold

The Denver Postdenverpost.com

Eddie Royal. (John Leyba, The Denver Post) Reports of a deal between free-agent wide receiver Eddie Royal and former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan and Washington were premature.

The two sides continue to talk today, but two NFL sources said no deal had been signed as of early this evening in Washington. Negotiations on a deal broke down Tuesday evening when it previously had appeared as if a two-year, $12 million deal was in place.

The Redskins, who signed free- agent wide receivers Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan Tuesday, still are talking to Royal's representatives, but Royal seems to be listening to other offers now that the Redskins have signed two other receivers.

Shanahan made Royal the 42nd pick of the 2008 draft and Royal had his best season as a pro as a rookie when he finished with 91 catches in Shanahan's last year with the Broncos.

Jeff Legwold: jlegwold@denverpost.com










Read more: Broncos free agent Eddie Royal not yet with Washington; still on market - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_20173012/broncos-free-agent-eddie-royal-not-redskin-yet#ixzz1p7nUlv98
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lolcopter
03-14-2012, 01:42 PM
Garcon has WR1 ability.

Based on what exactly

He's a speed guy

tsiguy96
03-14-2012, 03:52 PM
hes visiting the chargers now

@JasonLaConfora
WR Eddie Royal will visit the Chargers. Has been deep in talks with WSH and other clubs #freeagency

KevinJames
03-14-2012, 03:58 PM
**** that resign him don't let him go to the Chargers

tsiguy96
03-14-2012, 04:01 PM
peyton hillis a chief, too. former broncos staying in AFCW

BroncoBeavis
03-14-2012, 04:02 PM
Did anyone mention Laurent Robinson going to JAX?

Maybe I missed it.

lonestar
03-14-2012, 04:23 PM
Okay so your argument, as I understand it is as follows:

"Even though he took a 1-4 team to win the division and a playoff game, even though I agree that completion percentage does not necessarily indicate future success, even though the the Broncos wide receivers led the league in drops last year, despite all of these things that could have contributed to Tim Tebow's performance last year, he's not earned a chance to show the team what he can do with a full offseason in the offense and some talent provided on both sides of the ball."

Ohhhhh, okay. Because I thought us "tebonners" were the only ones acting irrationally.

HAve not read all the post here but your comment about "Broncos wide receivers led the league in drops last year" just where did you get that stat..

I know we dropped loads of balls but was not aware of that fact..

houghtam
03-14-2012, 04:27 PM
HAve not read all the post here but your comment about "Broncos wide receivers led the league in drops last year" just where did you get that stat..

I know we dropped loads of balls but was not aware of that fact..

It's been posted here several times. I would search it out to link it for you, but it's not going to sway anyone's mind one way or the other.

lonestar
03-14-2012, 04:33 PM
It's been posted here several times. I would search it out to link it for you, but it's not going to sway anyone's mind one way or the other.

Still like to see it myself..

somewhere down the line it will be usefull..

if you have the time PM me..

TonyR
03-14-2012, 07:06 PM
Chargers in hot pursuit of free agent Eddie Royal

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/chargers-in-hot-pursuit-of-free-agent-eddie-royal/

Circle Orange
03-14-2012, 08:12 PM
So the skins got Royal, Morgan, and Garçon. They got the second tier wr's covered. Not mourning him at all son, just curious if anyone has any insight on slot receivers we could be targeting

Trust me, they'll take it...the young wideouts haven't panned out and the only legit receiver we have is two foot five.

ScottXray
03-14-2012, 08:14 PM
Damn it ...I'm gonna need a new avatar!

broncos-rock
03-14-2012, 08:16 PM
I think he's waiting for the manning decision to sign!

Dr. Broncenstein
03-14-2012, 09:26 PM
Chargers in hot pursuit of free agent Eddie Royal

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/chargers-in-hot-pursuit-of-free-agent-eddie-royal/

AJ Smith has to be doing it for the lulz at this point.

cutthemdown
03-14-2012, 11:04 PM
HAve not read all the post here but your comment about "Broncos wide receivers led the league in drops last year" just where did you get that stat..

I know we dropped loads of balls but was not aware of that fact..

Stats like that are never official because they aren't kept by the NFL. Different sites will come up with different numbers. I'd say Broncos had a lot of drops, and because we threw mostly on 3rd down they really stuck out.

cutthemdown
03-14-2012, 11:10 PM
Royal makes for good depth, and can play special teams, so i can see why he gets another job somewhere. Its just that for Broncos its time to move on and look for more explosive players.

Good luck to Eddie, he did have a few big plays for us last yr.

snowspot66
03-14-2012, 11:14 PM
Stats like that are never official because they aren't kept by the NFL. Different sites will come up with different numbers. I'd say Broncos had a lot of drops, and because we threw mostly on 3rd down they really stuck out.

Definitely a lot of drive killers this year.

lonestar
03-14-2012, 11:24 PM
Stats like that are never official because they aren't kept by the NFL. Different sites will come up with different numbers. I'd say Broncos had a lot of drops, and because we threw mostly on 3rd down they really stuck out.

May not be NFL offical but they hold more water than Joe Blow saying it..

and frankly it validates or dismisses some of the moronic posts by eddies lovers..

UberBroncoMan
03-15-2012, 12:18 AM
Eddie is in San Diego.

**** us if this bites us in the ass.

extralife
03-15-2012, 12:41 AM
I still can't believe Josh Morgan got 6 million a year.

Garcia Bronco
03-15-2012, 07:21 AM
Josh is a good reciever or rather he has the potential.

TonyR
03-15-2012, 07:26 AM
Eddie is in San Diego.


I don't get why they'd pay so much for a #4 WR, which is about what he'd be there.

Garcia Bronco
03-15-2012, 07:32 AM
Eddie is an outside reciever. He can't play the slot.

barryr
03-15-2012, 07:35 AM
Just so I get this straight: Royal hasn't shown much in the last 3 years, but he is still young and could improve and get better? Hmm.

Black96WS6
03-15-2012, 08:56 AM
I don't get why they'd pay so much for a #4 WR, which is about what he'd be there.

He'll also handle Kickoffs and Punt Returns.

Think of him as another Sproles type player.

He put up good numbers with Cutler throwing to him.

I think with Rivers throwing to him he would do so again...

Pony Boy
03-15-2012, 08:58 AM
A bargin in the late rounds or even a free agent pick up would be Ryan Broyles, he would make a great slot receiver. He holds all the receiving records at Oklahoma and his rehab of the acl is going good.

DENVERDUI55
03-15-2012, 09:33 AM
I never seen so much hype over a #4 WR.

lolcopter
03-15-2012, 09:56 AM
He'll also handle Kickoffs and Punt Returns.

Think of him as another Sproles type player.

...

Puhlease sproles is much more dynamic

Royal is more like a Domenik Hixon type player

boltaneer
03-15-2012, 10:58 AM
Chargers desperately need a return man and while he hasn't duplicated his rookie season, his 2010 was a step back in that direction.

Chargers also desperately need guys with some speed and explosiveness on offense to go with Meachem.

I would love this signing. Hope it's not for $6mil/year though!