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tsiguy96
03-11-2012, 07:30 PM
wow, is there any possible chance AZ will be able to fit him under the cap in a realistic time frame?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/11/if-cards-want-manning-theyll-need-to-scramble-to-create-cap-space/

Rolandftw
03-11-2012, 07:35 PM
I'm sure they could lower the number, but I just don't see how they can do as much for Manning as the Broncos can do. They have the warm weather advantage, and they have Fitzgerald. Other then that, Denver is better in almost every other area.

Mogulseeker
03-11-2012, 07:35 PM
Nope. That's what I agued... and they have some guys on the line, that isn't very good, commanding a lot of dollars.

Ratboy
03-11-2012, 07:36 PM
Peyton should be a Bronco in no time.

tsiguy96
03-11-2012, 07:37 PM
even if they can clear the space, how are they going to get the money to sign other guys to help the team?

Ratboy
03-11-2012, 07:39 PM
even if they can clear the space, how are they going to get the money to sign other guys to help the team?

I'm sure their proposal was that they do not need those players because they already have them in place.

tsiguy96
03-11-2012, 07:39 PM
I'm sure their proposal was that they do not need those players because they already have them in place.

partially true, but even if its a comfort thing, denver has that ability to get guys who can help peyton and AZ does not.

BroncoMan4ever
03-11-2012, 07:41 PM
what the hell is their plan to get Manning and his guys in Arizona. Ask them if they'll take an IOU?

Requiem
03-11-2012, 07:45 PM
Financially they can find a way to get under. I guarantee Fitzgerald or someone else good on their team (couldn't even tell you, Dockett still there?) could restructure to allow for such a move. I heard them potentially getting rid of Levi Brown, but I don't see why Manning would be enthusiastic about playing for a virtual unknown (be it draft choice or whatever FA they can land -- who is available?) protecting his blindside.

Denver has the ability to promise Manning his best contract and secure other players along with him. I would have immediately consulted those in the know and talked about bringing in Reggie Wayne with him as a negotiating point if their relationship was a positive. It isn't a huge signing, but I do feel it improves the team.

That doesn't mean I'd talk about every Colt that has been getting slashed lately, but I think Wayne is a logical player to go with if he has the passion and belief he and Peyton can flourish somewhere.

If Peyton has former players and friends that live here, from a social aspect that probably would appeal to him. Not that it couldn't be available in Arizona, but I think that is a positive moving forward with us.

I know this sounds corny, but John's career pinnacle achievements came at the very end. I think that story and experience could relate to Peyton personally and sway him here. Elway would work for that because he's been there, done that.

Peyton, please be a Bronco.

tsiguy96
03-11-2012, 07:46 PM
levi brown is 14.5 million, their ILB is 6.5 million, both of which are going to be restructured or released.

Tim
03-11-2012, 07:47 PM
I heard on the radio if they cut Levi Brown, then sign Calais Campbell to a multi year contract then they will have the cap room.

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2012, 07:49 PM
So basically they need to clear $30 million and cap and won't be able to sign Reggie Wayne or any of Manning's friends?

He'd be ****ing retarded to go to AZ.

Also, to reiterate a point. Playing in the NFC wouldn't be very family friendly. He'd be stepping on his little brother's turf.

DBroncos4life
03-11-2012, 07:50 PM
levi brown is 14.5 million, their ILB is 6.5 million, both of which are going to be restructured or released.

Yeah its been talked about before here. Cutting your LT is a great move when trying to land a QB.

Requiem
03-11-2012, 07:50 PM
I heard on the radio if they cut Levi Brown, then sign Calais Campbell to a multi year contract then they will have the cap room.

You stop listening to that station right now mister.

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2012, 07:50 PM
I heard on the radio if they cut Levi Brown, then sign Calais Campbell to a multi year contract then they will have the cap room.

Levi is what, 17 million? Then Calais is something like a 10 million hit. They can't pay him nothing this year...and even if they did pay him nothing. Manning would get something like $10 million a year? That's way too low.

If they are almost $17 mill over, that makes no sense.

TheReverend
03-11-2012, 07:51 PM
Lots of serious IQ points brainstorming ITT

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2012, 07:52 PM
levi brown is 14.5 million, their ILB is 6.5 million, both of which are going to be restructured or released.

Brown is due a $17 million cap number and $6 million roster bonus on March 12.

He's more than that.

...and yeah. Let's cut our starting LT.

Also...if he's due this bonus tomorrow (not sure what time) that should give us a hint.

Requiem
03-11-2012, 07:53 PM
I'm just going to have to go and tell Cardinals fans they suck cause we are getting peyton AnnON

Ratboy
03-11-2012, 07:56 PM
It will be a shame if we cannot pull Manning in. He would no doubtedly bring in Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark.

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2012, 07:58 PM
It will be a shame if we cannot pull Manning in. He would no doubtedly bring in Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark.

I'd just kill to see Decker and Thomas with Manning hucking the ball.

You add in Wayne too and holy ****.

Shame Royal never lived up to his rookie year with us.

BroncoMan4ever
03-11-2012, 07:59 PM
Brown is due a $17 million cap number and $6 million roster bonus on March 12.

He's more than that.

...and yeah. Let's cut our starting LT.

Also...if he's due this bonus tomorrow (not sure what time) that should give us a hint.

that doesn't say much in the way of Peyton. even if they don't get Manning, they still may cut Brown tomorrow so they can make a run a Flynn, or just to have a little cash for free agents, and also money to sign draft picks.

right now they are in a hole, and regardless of whether they get Peyton or not, cuts and restructures are going to happen.

cutthemdown
03-11-2012, 08:01 PM
So even if cards clear enough for Manning, with Fitz there and no money probably not to Wayne or any of Peytons other buddies.

Gutless Drunk
03-11-2012, 08:01 PM
The Cardinal fans seem to think everyone will just sign incentive laden contracts:

http://forums.azcardinals.com/showthread.php?t=60265


http://forums.azcardinals.com/showthread.php?t=60266&page=2

1. Sign Manning
2. Incentives
3. Super Bowl!

cutthemdown
03-11-2012, 08:03 PM
Manning probably liking the fact Broncos have cut salary last few yrs. They have ditched all the cap problems they had. Manning can come in and play his last 2-3 yrs not worrying about the team having to cut tons of players to keep him, or get him. We can afford Manning and some other players to help, and trade Tebow for another draft pick.

BroncoMan4ever
03-11-2012, 08:04 PM
I'd just kill to see Decker and Thomas with Manning hucking the ball.

You add in Wayne too and holy ****.

Shame Royal never lived up to his rookie year with us.

don't forget the more than likely arrival of Dallas Clark. Brandon Lloyd is on record as saying he would definitely return to Denver to play with Manning. Garcon is a free agent. If Manning signs it is quite likely that Denver is infused with a ****load of new talent by weeks end.

Denver724
03-11-2012, 08:05 PM
I heard on the radio if they cut Levi Brown, then sign Calais Campbell to a multi year contract then they will have the cap room.

They will have the cap room and one of the worst OL's in the league. Brown is there best O-lineman.

eddie mac
03-11-2012, 08:05 PM
They could easily slash about $30m or so by cutting/restructuring Brown, Joey Porter, Fitz and Wilson but surely they would've had this in place by now anyway, considering teams like the Raiders and Steelers have been clambouring to get under the cap for weeks.

DENVERDUI55
03-11-2012, 08:11 PM
They wouldn't be pushing for him if he couldn't be had.

cutthemdown
03-11-2012, 08:15 PM
Cards were stupid they didn't carry over 5 extra million they could have. That should tell manning right there they aren't serious about doing whatever it takes to win.

Its going to be Broncos! We can add him, and not gut team to do it. We can sign Wayne because we actually need another vet WR to pair with our 2 young guns. It makes way more sense then any other city IMO.

BroncoMan4ever
03-11-2012, 08:25 PM
Cards were stupid they didn't carry over 5 extra million they could have. That should tell manning right there they aren't serious about doing whatever it takes to win.

Its going to be Broncos! We can add him, and not gut team to do it. We can sign Wayne because we actually need another vet WR to pair with our 2 young guns. It makes way more sense then any other city IMO.

Denver to Manning and his agent

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broncosteven
03-11-2012, 08:41 PM
I'd just kill to see Decker and Thomas with Manning hucking the ball.

You add in Wayne too and holy ****.

Shame Royal never lived up to his rookie year with us.

Thomas, yes. Decker too many drops.

If Wayne signs too then I think I would be 100% pleased with the offseason moves.