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UberBroncoMan
03-11-2012, 02:29 PM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827703c4/article/chargers-reportedly-interested-in-signing-lb-williams

Some news that has nothing to do with Manning or Tebow is good yes?

This would ****ing suck if it happens though.

Agamemnon
03-11-2012, 02:30 PM
News of this type is not good at all.

Rohirrim
03-11-2012, 02:32 PM
I'm sure there are a lot of teams "...interested in signing LB Williams." Doesn't mean the Chargers are going to get him.

cutthemdown
03-11-2012, 02:33 PM
Plus Chargers run a 3-4 no? Isn't that why the Texans think they can let him go? Are Chargers switching over? or maybe they did and i just wasnt paying attention?

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2012, 02:35 PM
Plus Chargers run a 3-4 no? Isn't that why the Texans think they can let him go? Are Chargers switching over? or maybe they did and i just wasnt paying attention?

He was excelling as a 3-4 OLB last year in very much the same way Doom did for us.

Mario had 5 sacks in 5 games.

elsid13
03-11-2012, 02:39 PM
For some reason, I see him either staying in Houston or going to Chicago. Maybe Miami if they switch to 4-3 and overspend for him.

ColoradoDarin
03-11-2012, 02:50 PM
Do not want to see him 2 times a year.

eddie mac
03-11-2012, 03:14 PM
Have the Chargers ever signed a top free agent???

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-11-2012, 03:15 PM
I said this weeks ago. Chargers are throwing a lot of money at Mario. Tebow is gonna get his ass handed to him by Mario 2 times next year.

MacGruder
03-11-2012, 03:17 PM
Bwaahaha Broncos' new Manning neck meet chargers new Mario Williams close line...

This is why having superman (Tebow) as your QB is so valuable.. And why completion percentage is so relatively unimportant in this era...

gunns
03-11-2012, 03:25 PM
What is the Chargers cap space like?

UberBroncoMan
03-11-2012, 03:29 PM
Bwaahaha Broncos' new Manning neck meet chargers new Mario Williams close line...

This is why having superman (Tebow) as your QB is so valuable.. And why completion percentage is so relatively unimportant in this era...

Please list the complete percentages of each of the last 10 Super Bowl QB's (20 total).

R8R H8R
03-11-2012, 04:04 PM
I still say, the Broncos can get him if they want him. However, they have to trade Elvis away to do it. Yes, I understand that is easier said than done, but not impossible.

Apparently, Elvis is going to make $14 million this year. That is the range that Mario is going to demand. Just saying...

OBF1
03-11-2012, 04:08 PM
Mario's range will be a bunch more than 14 million.

elsid13
03-11-2012, 04:18 PM
Mario's range will be a bunch more than 14 million.

They stated it would between 16 to 18 million. Which is good deal if he is healthy.

Cito Pelon
03-11-2012, 04:43 PM
They stated it would between 16 to 18 million. Which is good deal if he is healthy.

Sounds like a good deal for the Broncos. I'd love to have him on the team, hate to see him on the Chargers. If EFX are going hard after PM, they should go equally hard for Mario.

Swedish Extrovert
03-11-2012, 04:44 PM
Houston doesn't have the cap space to resign him without gutting the roster.

elsid13
03-11-2012, 04:48 PM
Houston doesn't have the cap space to resign him without gutting the roster.

According to reports it is 50-50 if they resign him at this point. If he doesn't get signed tomorrow then he will be free agent and gone.

elsid13
03-11-2012, 04:49 PM
Sounds like a good deal for the Broncos. I'd love to have him on the team, hate to see him on the Chargers. If EFX are going hard after PM, they should go equally hard for Mario.

I agree. That would let us rotate Doom and Ayers to strength the line.

R8R H8R
03-11-2012, 04:53 PM
Mario's range will be a bunch more than 14 million.

What's a bunch? If it's 16-18 million like some say than he would be a bargain if as i say we trade Elvis.

R8R H8R
03-11-2012, 04:55 PM
I agree. That would let us rotate Doom and Ayers to strength the line.

Assuming we get Manning, I can't see us getting Mario w/o trading Elvis. OTOH, stranger things have happened.

Drunken.Broncoholic
03-11-2012, 04:55 PM
Please list the complete percentages of each of the last 10 Super Bowl QB's (20 total).

Ouch. I heard that backhanded slap on Mcgrubers hairy cheek.

MacGruder
03-11-2012, 04:56 PM
Please list the complete percentages of each of the last 10 Super Bowl QB's (20 total).

This is flawed logic.. the point you are missing is that the teams that win either have the best D.. or the best Oline.. they don't win with their QB.. WTF do you think Manning only has one...

OBF1
03-11-2012, 04:58 PM
What's a bunch? If it's 16-18 million like some say than he would be a bargain if as i say we trade Elvis.

Maybe I am wrong, but to a baller like you 4 million dollars a year is not a shiat load of money.

R8R H8R
03-11-2012, 05:05 PM
My point is that by trading Elvis, Mario could be had for $2-4 million more than we would have paid Elvis this year. Maybe I'm crazy, but that sounds like a deal to me.

gyldenlove
03-11-2012, 05:09 PM
For some reason, I see him either staying in Houston or going to Chicago. Maybe Miami if they switch to 4-3 and overspend for him.

Williams and Peppers together? damn that would be scary.

Cito Pelon
03-11-2012, 05:15 PM
What's a bunch? If it's 16-18 million like some say than he would be a bargain if as i say we trade Elvis.

Why trade Elvis? He's a huge asset to the team, even more of an asset if Mario is added.

R8R H8R
03-11-2012, 05:39 PM
Why trade Elvis? He's a huge asset to the team, even more of an asset if Mario is added.

For 2 reasons:

Mario is an end, we already have two in Elvis & Ayers.

Elvis is more valuable as a 3-4 LB as we found out in the McD era. By trading Elvis, we free up about $14 million to help pay for Mario.

I just don't see a realistic way of having both. We need to save money for a quality DT, amongst other needs.

broncogary
03-11-2012, 05:43 PM
For 2 reasons:

Mario is an end, we already have two in Elvis & Ayers.

Elvis is more valuable as a 3-4 LB as we found out in the McD era. By trading Elvis, we free up about $14 million to help pay for Mario.

I just don't see a realistic way of having both. We need to save money for a quality DT, amongst other needs.

Elvis>Mario.

R8R H8R
03-11-2012, 05:57 PM
Elvis>Mario.

Not in a 4-3, imho.

Cito Pelon
03-11-2012, 06:35 PM
For 2 reasons:

Mario is an end, we already have two in Elvis & Ayers.

Elvis is more valuable as a 3-4 LB as we found out in the McD era. By trading Elvis, we free up about $14 million to help pay for Mario.

I just don't see a realistic way of having both. We need to save money for a quality DT, amongst other needs.

Well, I can see your point. Maybe they can get Elvis to restructure, that's an option. Elvis is a very talented guy though, wouldn't like to see him shopped off in an either/or kind of situation.

Rohirrim
03-11-2012, 06:37 PM
I don't want Elvis going anywhere. Let Mario find his payday elsewhere. Let the Broncos draft a DT like Cox, sign Bunkley and MT, and pick up some FA CBs. We'll be fine.

Traveler
03-11-2012, 06:42 PM
For 2 reasons:

Mario is an end, we already have two in Elvis & Ayers.

Elvis is more valuable as a 3-4 LB as we found out in the McD era. By trading Elvis, we free up about $14 million to help pay for Mario.

I just don't see a realistic way of having both. We need to save money for a quality DT, amongst other needs.

How bout trading DJ and moving Elvis to DJ's old spot?

Cito Pelon
03-11-2012, 06:53 PM
I don't want Elvis going anywhere. Let Mario find his payday elsewhere. Let the Broncos draft a DT like Cox, sign Bunkley and MT, and pick up some FA CBs. We'll be fine.

That's a need that may get put on the back burner if PM is signed with supposedly his wish list of retreads from Indy.

Remember, there was a poll asking who would you rather sign, Mario or Peyton. Mostly everybody wanted Mario.

Swedish Extrovert
03-11-2012, 06:54 PM
How bout trading DJ and moving Elvis to DJ's old spot?

Doom had a career year there in the 3-4, but is he fast enough to cover TEs?

tesnyde
03-11-2012, 06:59 PM
How bout trading DJ and moving Elvis to DJ's old spot?

With DJ's suspension pending and his production, I don't think we could get a decent return.

DENVERDUI55
03-11-2012, 07:02 PM
How bout trading DJ and moving Elvis to DJ's old spot?

That wouldn't work at all. Why would you take Doom out of a position that max's his strengths and put him at WLB which would emphasize his weaknesses?

R8R H8R
03-11-2012, 07:05 PM
I don't want Elvis going anywhere. Let Mario find his payday elsewhere. Let the Broncos draft a DT like Cox, sign Bunkley and MT, and pick up some FA CBs. We'll be fine.

That may very well be the way we go. My trading Elvis idea is solely for the purpose of finding a realistic way of getting Mario, if that is in EFX's plans. I just don't think we can have both Elvis and Mario, that's all.

However, it is my opinion, for what that is worth, that Mario is better suited for our current 4-3 than Elvis is, and would be an upgrade. But I also concede that trading him is easier said than done. So your scenario will probably be the one we go with.

broncogary
03-11-2012, 07:13 PM
How bout trading DJ and moving Elvis to DJ's old spot?

How about moving Elvis to TB. He could go for 2k in this system.

Listen, the difference is Elvis has a motor and Mario doesn't.

R8R H8R
03-11-2012, 07:14 PM
How bout trading DJ and moving Elvis to DJ's old spot?

First, DJ's trade value is highly questionable at this point. He may miss the 1st 6 weeks of the season, who wants that?

2nd, I don't see Elvis as a 4-3 OLB. That is much different than a 3-4 OLB. Duties are completely different. As a 3-4 LB we saw Elvis flourish at getting to the QB and chasing RB's down. As a 4-3 OLB, he needs to cover TE's. As Mighty Smurf said, can he? Doubtful.