the latest US hypocrisy

[mhgaffney]

Washington’s Insouciance Has No Rival

By Paul Craig Roberts

February 15, 2012 "Information Clearing House" --- Is Obama a hypocrite or merely insouciant? Or is he an idiot?

According to news reports Obama’s White House meeting on Valentine’s day with China’s Vice President, Xi Jinping, provided an opportunity for Obama to raise “a sensitive human rights issue with the Chinese leader-in-waiting.” The brave and forthright Obama didn’t let etiquette or decorum get in his way. Afterwards, Obama declared that Washington would “continue to emphasize what we believe is the importance of realizing the aspirations and rights of all people.”

Think about that for a minute. Washington is now in the second decade of murdering Muslim men, women, and children in six countries. Washington is so concerned with human rights that it drops bombs on schools, hospitals, weddings and funerals, all in order to uphold the human rights of Muslim people. You see, bombing liberates Muslim women from having to wear the burka and from male domination.

One hundred thousand, or one million, dead Iraqis, four million displaced Iraqis, a country with destroyed infrastructure, and entire cities, such as Fallujah, bombed and burnt with white phosphorus into cinders is the proper way to show concern for human rights.

Ditto for Afghanistan. And Libya.

In Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia Washington’s drones bring human rights to the people.

Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, and secret CIA prison sites are other places to which Washington brings human rights. Obama, who has the power to murder American citizens without due process of law, is too powerless to close Guantanamo Prison.

He is powerless to prevent himself from supplying Israel with weapons with which to murder Palestinians and Lebanese citizens to whom Obama brings human rights by vetoing every UN resolution passed against Israel for its crimes against humanity.

Instead of following Washington’s human rights lead, the evil Chinese invest in other countries, buy things from them, and sell them goods.

Has any foreign dignitary ever raised “a sensitive human rights issue” with Obama or his predecessor? How is the world so deranged that Washington can murder innocents for years on end and still profess to be the world’s defender of human rights?

How many people has China bombed, droned, and sanctioned into non-existence in the 21st century?

Will Syria and Iran be the next victims of Washington’s concern for human rights?

Nothing better illustrates the total unreality of life in the West than the fact that the entire Western world did not break out in riotous laughter over Obama’s expression of his human rights concern over China’s behavior.

Washington’s concern with human rights does not extend as far as airport security where little girls and grandmothers are sexually groped. Antiwar activists have their homes invaded, their personal possessions carried off, and a grand jury is summoned to frame them up on some terrorist charge. US soldier Bradley Manning is held for two years in violation of the US Constitution while the human rights government concocts fabricated charges to punish him for revealing a US war crime. WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange is harassed endlessly with the goal of bringing him into the human rights clutches of Washington. Critics of Washington’s inhumane policies are monitored and spied upon.

Washington is the worst violator of human rights in our era, and Washington has only begun.

Who will liberate Americans from Washington’s clutches?

Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. www.paulcraigroberts.org

[Missouribronc]

Think about that for a minute. Washington is now in the second decade of murdering Muslim men, women, and children in six countries. Washington is so concerned with human rights that it drops bombs on schools, hospitals, weddings and funerals, all in order to uphold the human rights of Muslim people. You see, bombing liberates Muslim women from having to wear the burka and from male domination.

Yeah. We are at war with people who want to and have killed us, you moron.

[Garcia Bronco]

Lol.. whomever wrote that article op couldn't find her ass with either hand. Its the kinda of conclusions I would expect out of a weed smoking 16 year-old.

[mhgaffney]

Oh and how are "they" going to kill us? With a stone?

Garcia and Mizzou display their ignorance and stupidity. PC Roberts forgot more about geopolitics than they will ever know.

[Rohirrim]

PC Roberts forgot more about geopolitics than they will ever know.

Too bad he didn't learn that his hysterics and oversimplification of complex issues makes him sound like an idiot.

[alkemical]

Too bad he didn't learn that his hysterics and oversimplification of complex issues makes him sound like an idiot.

...or someone running for election.

[Rohirrim]

I guess Roberts doesn't know how to use the internet?

Taliban insurgents are increasingly using civilians as human shields against the US-led attack on Marjah, in southern Afghanistan, a senior Afghan commander said today.

Speaking on the fifth day of an offensive involving about 15,000 US, British, and Afghan troops, General Mohiudin Ghori said his soldiers had seen Taliban fighters place women and children on rooftops and fire from behind them.

At the same time US marines called in air support as they came under heavy gunfire from insurgents hiding in bunkers, houses and mosques.

Ghori, the senior commander for Afghan troops in the area, accused the Taliban of placing civilian hostages in the line of fire. "Especially in the south of Marjah, the enemy is fighting from compounds where soldiers can very clearly see women or children on the roof or in a second-floor or third-floor window," he was quoted by Associated Press as saying. "They are trying to get us to fire on them and kill the civilians."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/17/taliban-human-shields

[Rohirrim]

Not only that, but I guess Roberts is not well read in history either. The regime running China right now is a direct descendant of the government that carried out the worst genocide in the 20th century and is still in the business of regularly killing dissidents. Let's put it this way, if Occupy was taking place in China, the protestors would be greasing tank wheels. Roberts has gone way over the deep end.

[Garcia Bronco]

Oh and how are "they" going to kill us? With a stone?

Garcia and Mizzou display their ignorance and stupidity. PC Roberts forgot more about geopolitics than they will ever know.

A made up guy with made up opinions using made up labels to describe nothing.

[W*GS]

Ask the Chinese people about China's human rights records. The ones still alive, of course.

Geezus, gaffe. You really gaffed with this POS.

[mhgaffney]

Too bad he didn't learn that his hysterics and oversimplification of complex issues makes him sound like an idiot.

Hysterics?

Coming from you Ro -- that's hysterical.

You are the abject simpleton -- the war mongering lib'rel who never saw a US intervention he didn't cheer.

[mhgaffney]

Not only that, but I guess Roberts is not well read in history either. The regime running China right now is a direct descendant of the government that carried out the worst genocide in the 20th century and is still in the business of regularly killing dissidents. Let's put it this way, if Occupy was taking place in China, the protestors would be greasing tank wheels. Roberts has gone way over the deep end.

Oh really?

The facts..please.

[Garcia Bronco]

Oh really?

The facts..please.

Why give you facts when you live in your own made-up world?

[DenverBrit]

Oh really?

The facts..please.

LOL

Irony gold!!

[Rohirrim]

Oh really?

The facts..please.

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

[W*GS]

Oh really?

The facts..please.

Seriously?

You're that ****ing clueless?

[Rohirrim]

The whole "anti-American" argument from Roberts, Chomsky, der Gaffo, et al is a sham. If we are an empire, then we are the most benign empire in history.

[W*GS]

The whole "anti-American" argument from Roberts, Chomsky, der Gaffo, et al is a sham. If we are an empire, then we are the most benign empire in history.

Exactly. Even at its height, our "empire" was small.

Perhaps gaffe can fill us in on all the colonies we had in Africa and Asia.

Oh yeah, we didn't - the Europeans cornered those continents...

[barryr]

The article is true as far as I'm concerned. Nobody is stopping doing business with China and objections to human rights violations are just lip service for nice soundbites and votes. At the end of the day, it is business as usual. We have troops still sitting in Afghanistan twiddling their thumbs between bullets and bombs being shot at them.

[elsid13]

Exactly. Even at its height, our "empire" was small.

Perhaps gaffe can fill us in on all the colonies we had in Africa and Asia.

Oh yeah, we didn't - the Europeans cornered those continents...

For historical reason only- I would consider the Philippines a US colony and we did some very crappy thing to them.

[sirhcyennek81]

[SIZE="4"]How many people has China bombed, droned, and sanctioned into non-existence


Tibetans, the Yugurs, Vietnamese and Koreans say "hello". But I forget. Asians killing other asians has nothing to do with white people and the "evil colonizers" narrative.

Gaff would have done well in Berlin in 1938.


:Broncos:

[Rohirrim]

For historical reason only- I would consider the Philippines a US colony and we did some very crappy thing to them.

There were plenty of atrocities on both sides.

[mhgaffney]

Ro lies. The SOB.

It is NOT an "anti American attitude" as you say.

You lie like a typical liberal.

98% of Americans have nothing to do with the high crimes that have brought our nation and the world to the brink of ecological and economic meltdown -- and even nuclear Armageddon.

It's a tiny group -- less than 1% -- and I keep repeating this - but you never listen --

Yet, this tiny group now controls the US Congress, the White House, and the courts. They bought the US government with the 2008 bail out money.

These are the bastards who make US foreign policy. They are the ones who make the decisions about war and peace -- who goes and who stays -- issues of life and death.

The only way to change the equation is to expose the criminals to the light of day -- since they flourish in the shadows.

You stupid liberals fail to get this -- or anything else. And the neocons and Zionists are juts as bad.

[pricejj]

mhgaffney's post is accurate and sad...

Washington's continued worthless, ethnic cleansing against muslim's worldwide is a tragedy and a disgrace. The unwarranted destabilization of legitimate muslim governments, and killing of innocent civilians, men, women and children, shows Washington's disregard for human life, and utter ignorance.

Preventing the proliferation of nuclear bombs is paramount, and can be accomplished without the use of sanctions or war. Nuclear security, and protection against genocide are the two policing actions that the U.N. could perform (although so far it has been an utter failure at both). Nation destruction/building, and installing puppet leaders is neither wise, nor beneficial and needs to be abandoned immediately.

[sirhcyennek81]

mhgaffney's post is accurate and sad...

Washington's continued worthless, ethnic cleansing against muslim's worldwide is a tragedy and a disgrace. The unwarranted destabilization of legitimate muslim governments, and killing of innocent civilians, men, women and children, shows Washington's disregard for human life, and utter ignorance.

Preventing the proliferation of nuclear bombs is paramount, and can be accomplished without the use of sanctions or war. Nuclear security, and protection against genocide are the two policing actions that the U.N. could perform (although so far it has been an utter failure at both). Nation destruction/building, and installing puppet leaders is neither wise, nor beneficial and needs to be abandoned immediately.


And the magical way to prevent rogue states from acquiring nuclear weapons is what?

:Broncos:

[Rohirrim]

Ro lies. The SOB.

It is NOT an "anti American attitude" as you say.

You lie like a typical liberal.

98% of Americans have nothing to do with the high crimes that have brought our nation and the world to the brink of ecological and economic meltdown -- and even nuclear Armageddon.

It's a tiny group -- less than 1% -- and I keep repeating this - but you never listen --

Yet, this tiny group now controls the US Congress, the White House, and the courts. They bought the US government with the 2008 bail out money.

These are the bastards who make US foreign policy. They are the ones who make the decisions about war and peace -- who goes and who stays -- issues of life and death.

The only way to change the equation is to expose the criminals to the light of day -- since they flourish in the shadows.

You stupid liberals fail to get this -- or anything else. And the neocons and Zionists are juts as bad.

http://subversify.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/bilderberg6.jpg

[sirhcyennek81]

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Its nice to know that despite our political differences, we have the same exact opinion of Gaff.

Its heartwarming, really.

:Broncos:

[mhgaffney]

The economic and war policies that have brought our nation to the brink -- are the work of the 1%.

Now we know who the traitors are. W*gs, Ro, Sir, and other knee jerks are the peanut gallery for the 1%.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of Americans oppose the wars, the bail out, the offshoring and outsourcing, the corporate and financial stranglehold of the political process, etc.

[mhgaffney]

And the magical way to prevent rogue states from acquiring nuclear weapons is what?

:Broncos:

Rogue states...like.. you mean... Israel?

[sirhcyennek81]

Rogue states...like.. you mean... Israel?


Israel has never had a PM or President threaten to wipe their neighbors off the map. Nor have they funded suicide bombers for 40 years to take out arab children at shopping malls. Nor have they held US citizens in captivity for 444 days after storming an American embassy. But these are facts, and we all know how you hate those. They tend to weaken your case whenever you decide to make money on the 3,000+ 9/11 victims or go into a Goebbels like rant about the Jews.



:Broncos:

[sirhcyennek81]

The economic and war policies that have brought our nation to the brink -- are the work of the 1%.

Now we know who the traitors are. W*gs, Ro, Sir, and other knee jerks are the peanut gallery for the 1%.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of Americans oppose the wars, the bail out, the offshoring and outsourcing, the corporate and financial stranglehold of the political process, etc.


And your solution is what? Liquidate the 1%? I hear the Germans had a fantastic way of disposing of undesireables that opposed the "will of the people".

:Broncos:

[W*GS]

Being called a "traitor" by gaffe is a badge of honor.

We know where his loyalties lie...

[Rohirrim]

The economic and war policies that have brought our nation to the brink -- are the work of the 1%.

Now we know who the traitors are. W*gs, Ro, Sir, and other knee jerks are the peanut gallery for the 1%.

Meanwhile, the vast majority of Americans oppose the wars, the bail out, the offshoring and outsourcing, the corporate and financial stranglehold of the political process, etc.

And only Gaffo has pierced through all the internet secrets to find the truth!

It must get lonely in the Gaffobunker.

[mhgaffney]

And your solution is what? Liquidate the 1%? I hear the Germans had a fantastic way of disposing of undesireables that opposed the "will of the people".

:Broncos:

We know what needs to happen. The answers have been posted on this board.

How come guys like you do not listen?

It's partly because you don't read. You have been brought up on sound bytes. Thinking does not come naturally.

The answer is simple: rescind the 1913 federal reserve act. Abolish the federal reserve system -- just as that great American hero Andrew Jackson did in 1835, when he staked his political career on blocking the renewal charter of the federal reserve bank of his day.

Jackson succeeded. He shut down the central private bank. Yet the banksters never sleep. Defeat them once -- and they return again.

They learned their lesson. The 1913 federal reserve act had no renewal clause. The fed was created into perpetuity.

It is up to us to change that.

Are you with us?

MHG

[Rohirrim]

Drek has the best solution: A constitutional convention.

[mhgaffney]

Drek has the best solution: A constitutional convention.

Wrong.

And this absurd post by Ro is typical -- and shows he does not think.

The fed can be defeated by a simple majority in Congress. If you adopt a constitutional process -- you must have -- I think -- two thirds.

The banksters will easily defeat that initiative.

a simple majority = democracy in action

[mhgaffney]

the fed was created by a simple majority.

all we need to defeat it -- is that same simple majority.

[mhgaffney]

Typical Ro reaction.

You call him on something -- show he was wrong -- and he disappears.

Ro = narcissist.

There is no rest for we honest men.

MHG

[pricejj]

And the magical way to prevent rogue states from acquiring nuclear weapons is what?

:Broncos:


1. Require all states wishing to pursue nuclear power as an energy source, to become a state-party to the Nuclear NonProliferation Treaty (NPT), which requires U.N. inspections every 14 months.

2. Strengthen the rules regarding U.N. inspections to include intrusive, all-acess inspections in any states that don't already have nuclear weapons, and are suspected of attempting to gain nuclear weapon technology.

3. Include in the NonProliferation Treaty specific language granting rights to the U.N. to monitor (by drone and satellite surveillance) and destroy any and all suspected nuclear facilities in states that do not oblige to the terms in the treaty. Such a state is deemed a "rogue" state.

4. Include in the NonProliferation Treaty specific language granting rights to the United States for unilateral action to monitor (by drone and satellite surveillance) and destroy any and all suspected nuclear and military facilities in "rogue" states if the U.N. fails to act, according to their specific responsibility, within a set specific time period.

5. Remove all U.N. civilian sanctions from any "rogue" states.

6. Remove the U.S. military occupational presence from the Middle East, with explicit intentions of retaining all rights of surveillance.

[pricejj]

Once the the Nuclear NonProliferation Treaty is strenghtened, U.N. civilian sanctions are lifted, and U.S. military occupational forces are removed from the region, I'm sure Iran would gladly comply with intrusive U.N. nuclear inspections. If not, the path of action is quite clear.

[Rohirrim]

Typical Ro reaction.

You call him on something -- show he was wrong -- and he disappears.

Ro = narcissist.

There is no rest for we honest men.

MHG

I imagine you sitting in a cabin in Oregon, out in the woods, like the Unabomber, lighting candles on the shrine to yourself.

The fed is only one problem. And not the biggest. A constitutional convention would be the political equivalent of taking a fire hose to the stinking corruption in our government (in all three branches) and flushing it out.

[W*GS]

I imagine you sitting in a cabin in Oregon, out in the woods, like the Unabomber, lighting candles on the shrine to yourself.

The fed is only one problem. And not the biggest. A constitutional convention would be the political equivalent of taking a fire hose to the stinking corruption in our government (in all three branches) and flushing it out.

gaffe is a legend in his own mind. A symptom of his narcissistic Messiah complex.

We're all gnats compared to his almighty intellect and knowledge of The Truth.

[mhgaffney]

1. Require all states wishing to pursue nuclear power as an energy source, to become a state-party to the Nuclear NonProliferation Treaty (NPT), which requires U.N. inspections every 14 months.

2. Strengthen the rules regarding U.N. inspections to include intrusive, all-acess inspections in any states that don't already have nuclear weapons, and are suspected of attempting to gain nuclear weapon technology.

3. Include in the NonProliferation Treaty specific language granting rights to the U.N. to monitor (by drone and satellite surveillance) and destroy any and all suspected nuclear facilities in states that do not oblige to the terms in the treaty. Such a state is deemed a "rogue" state.

4. Include in the NonProliferation Treaty specific language granting rights to the United States for unilateral action to monitor (by drone and satellite surveillance) and destroy any and all suspected nuclear and military facilities in "rogue" states if the U.N. fails to act, according to their specific responsibility, within a set specific time period.

5. Remove all U.N. civilian sanctions from any "rogue" states.

6. Remove the U.S. military occupational presence from the Middle East, with explicit intentions of retaining all rights of surveillance.

By UN I take it you mean the IAEA -- which handles the nuclear inspections.

All good ideas -- but probably none of them will become part of the NPT --

Today, the NPT is basically defunct. US presidents Clinton, Bush and Obama have so badly damaged the treaty that for all practical purposes it is meaningless.

Most importantly, their failure to pressure Israel to sign -- has dealt the treaty a death blow.

We now face a nuclear catastrophe.

It seems the only thing that will wake up the people to the grave danger is the thing in itself. Let us hope the coming nuclear war can be limited -- kept regional.

MHG

[mhgaffney]

Notice how Ro and W*gs evade the issue -- and wallow in personal attacks.

I predict that W*gs will never endorse a repeal of the 1913 federal reserve act -- because he is a Wall Street wannabe.

[W*GS]

You wallow in America-hating conspiracy ****, gaffe.

It's your sustenance; your reason for living.

You're just another garden-variety dickhead hater.

[pricejj]

By UN I take it you mean the IAEA -- which handles the nuclear inspections.

All good ideas -- but probably none of them will become part of the NPT --

Today, the NPT is basically defunct. US presidents Clinton, Bush and Obama have so badly damaged the treaty that for all practical purposes it is meaningless.

Most importantly, their failure to pressure Israel to sign -- has dealt the treaty a death blow.

We now face a nuclear catastrophe.

It seems the only thing that will wake up the people to the grave danger is the thing in itself. Let us hope the coming nuclear war can be limited -- kept regional.

MHG

You are right. It seems their only interest is in giving themselves unlimited power to disrupt any nation that does not have a figurehead leader to kowtow to their wants and needs. This lack of respect and independence for sovereign nations is in direct opposition for what they claim to represent.

[Odysseus]

Its nice to know that despite our political differences, we have the same exact opinion of Gaff.

Its heartwarming, really.

:Broncos:

:giggle: @brutal sarcasm dripping with irony sauce.

[Odysseus]

You are right. It seems their only interest is in giving themselves unlimited power to disrupt any nation that does not have a figurehead leader to kowtow to their wants and needs. This lack of respect and independence for sovereign nations is in direct opposition for what they claim to represent.

I disagree with the half truths that you and Ghaff have apparently taken for gospel. If you want to condemn one side without understanding the full context there is no law in America against being short sighted.

The problem with journalists like this is they don't get the bigger picture. They see one picture of a movie and then write a movie review. Um. Good luck with that.

[sirhcyennek81]

By UN I take it you mean the IAEA -- which handles the nuclear inspections.

All good ideas -- but probably none of them will become part of the NPT --

Today, the NPT is basically defunct. US presidents Clinton, Bush and Obama have so badly damaged the treaty that for all practical purposes it is meaningless.

Most importantly, their failure to pressure Israel to sign -- has dealt the treaty a death blow.

We now face a nuclear catastrophe.

It seems the only thing that will wake up the people to the grave danger is the thing in itself. Let us hope the coming nuclear war can be limited -- kept regional.

MHG

Way to forget India and Pakistan. They have not signed either, and they have confirmed nuclear arsenals.

Gobbels would be proud of you.

:Broncos:

[mhgaffney]

You wallow in America-hating conspiracy ****, gaffe.

It's your sustenance; your reason for living.

You're just another garden-variety dickhead hater.

Notice how support for the 99% -- opposing the wars and economic treason by the financial elite-- gets perverted into being anti American.

What I harte is the policy that led to Abu Graib and US drones murdering people at Muslim weddings and funerals.

W*gs identifies with the policies because he is a 1% wannabe. Ditto for Ro.

[mhgaffney]

Way to forget India and Pakistan. They have not signed either, and they have confirmed nuclear arsenals.

Gobbels would be proud of you.

:Broncos:

India and Pakistan did not sign -- correct -- but their nuke programs are out on the open.

Israel has never acknowledged its nuclear weapons. Neither has the US acknowledged them. Officially they don't exist.

It's the biggest open secret on the planet. But practicing official denial allows the US government to keep sending Israel military aid --

Denial also enables Washington to avoid having to put pressure on Israel.

Of course, this situation has also destroyed US credibility. We are a laughingstock.

[mhgaffney]

I disagree with the half truths that you and Ghaff have apparently taken for gospel. If you want to condemn one side without understanding the full context there is no law in America against being short sighted.

The problem with journalists like this is they don't get the bigger picture. They see one picture of a movie and then write a movie review. Um. Good luck with that.

Which half truth? Please be specific (if you know how).

[W*GS]

Notice how support for the 99% -- opposing the wars and economic treason by the financial elite-- gets perverted into being anti American.

Your **** runs much deeper than that, gaffe.

Don't play at being reasonable. That is one thing you are not.

[pricejj]

I disagree with the half truths that you and Ghaff have apparently taken for gospel. If you want to condemn one side without understanding the full context there is no law in America against being short sighted.

The problem with journalists like this is they don't get the bigger picture. They see one picture of a movie and then write a movie review. Um. Good luck with that.

The problem is:
1. How to avoid a full out war in Iran (which won't accomplish anything).
2. Learn how to properly approach foreign relations with legitimate islamic states.
3. Prevent U.S. policy from producing human rights catastrophes (as in Somalia).

Rather than "condemn" any particular party, it is useful to establish a set of ground rules, and actions to be taken, considering that the proliferation of nuclear weapons is not in the best interest of mankind. The goal is to learn from our past mistakes (Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc.), and establish foreign policy which not only a) protects the best interests of U.S. citizens, but (b) respects the sovereign status of legitimate foreign governments, and at the same time (c) protects the best interests of citizens, of the states in question.

It is easy to cast a light of negativity towards the U.S., Isreal, or Iran, but the goal is to establish long lasting peace, and mutual respect. Changes to the NPT, and U.N. security council would present a clear path to Iran, towards coming back in good standing with the U.N./U.S./Isreal. It has been clearly demonstrated that destroying islamic states and deposing islamic governments is not producing the desired effect. A human rights-based approach to U.S. foreign policy is not only necessary, it is long overdue, and imperative to the continued survival of the United States of America.

[mhgaffney]

It was Einstein who said: "I'm not certain how WW III will be fought -- but I know that WW IV will be fought with stones and clubs..."