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lonestar
02-13-2012, 12:33 PM
Gun Wisdom

Some words to the wise. Shooting Advice from various Concealed Carry Instructors.

If you own a gun, you will appreciate this. If not, you should get one and learn how to use it:


A; Guns have only two enemies rust and politicians.
B; Its always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
C; Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.
D; Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.
E; Never say "I've got a gun." If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off.
F; The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes, the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.
G; The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win - cheat if necessary.
H; Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets . . . You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, cause it'll be empty.
I; If you're in a gun fight:
1/ If you're not shooting, you should be loading.
2/ If you're not loading, you should be movin,
3/ If you're not movin', you're dead.
J; In a life and death situation, do something . . . It may be wrong, but do something!
K; If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?
L; You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much a universal language.
M; You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.

If you believe in the 2nd Amendment, please pass this on.

Elway 4 Life
02-13-2012, 12:35 PM
Amen brother. REP

cutthemdown
02-13-2012, 12:41 PM
If Obama gets his way, puts another super liberal on the court, it will no go 5-4 against gun owners in ever case before it.

Spider
02-13-2012, 12:41 PM
The Columbine killers proudly support this thread ..........

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2012, 12:42 PM
I think I like this one second:

Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets . . . You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, cause it'll be empty.

I like this one best:

The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win - cheat if necessary.

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2012, 12:43 PM
If Obama gets his way, puts another super liberal on the court, it will no go 5-4 against gun owners in ever case before it.

That's not really a rule the Supreme court can make. The 2nd Amendment is clear.

Spider
02-13-2012, 12:44 PM
Since we are all being hard assed gun totin bad asses , lets celebrate ......Let be all cool n shiat .....
http://www.momlogic.com/2008/08/protect_your_kids_from_guns.php
On July 19, 4-year-old Dylan Jackson shot himself to death after finding a loaded gun at a friend's home during a birthday party.

- A 3-year-old Southeast Washington boy shot himself in the foot and grazed his hand while playing with his father's gun -- which he found lying on the floor.

- A 2-year-old Tampa boy shot himself in the chest with a loaded 9 mm he found in his parent's couch while playing.

- Last February, a 13-year-old boy shot himself with a semiautomatic handgun in the home of his guardian, a Maryland police officer.

- The 10-year-old son of a New York City police officer died after shooting himself in the face with his father's loaded revolver. The boy found the weapon on a shelf in the basement while looking for a ball his mom had hidden.

Is there a way to stop these senseless deaths?

The NRA (National Rifle Association) sponsors classes that teach children if they find a gun to leave the area and inform an adult, but studies show kids who take these classes are no less likely to play with guns than kids who don't attend class.



Read more: http://www.momlogic.com/2008/08/protect_your_kids_from_guns.php#ixzz1mISpvJIO

cutthemdown
02-13-2012, 12:44 PM
Don't forget to stock up on ammo people. You should have thousands of rounds between your weapons. Especially in the bigger cities. If the **** ever goes down last thing you want is to run out of ammo. Thats why i like my .22 rifle. Ammo so cheap. I figure a shotgun, a .22 rifle, and a large caliber handgun is a pretty good all around arsenal.

cutthemdown
02-13-2012, 12:45 PM
The Columbine killers proudly support this thread ..........

Had a teacher been armed that whole thing could have been avoided.

cutthemdown
02-13-2012, 12:46 PM
I think every school should probably have at least one person trained and licensed to carry a firearm.

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2012, 12:46 PM
Don't forget to stock up on ammo people. You should have thousands of rounds between your weapons. Especially in the bigger cities. If the **** ever goes down last thing you want is to run out of ammo. Thats why i like my .22 rifle. Ammo so cheap. I figure a shotgun, a .22 rifle, and a large caliber handgun is a pretty good all around arsenal.

They're pricey, but look at a 1911 ACP .45 Kimber for your side arm. Great weapon.

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2012, 12:46 PM
Had a teacher been armed that whole thing could have been avoided.

Or other students

Spider
02-13-2012, 12:47 PM
Had a teacher been armed that whole thing could have been avoided.

I see so we arm teachers ...... Good ****ing plan limp dick and if the teachers miss and hit other students ? ......Oh ****ing well ? too bad so sad , get over it ?

Spider
02-13-2012, 12:52 PM
I think every school should probably have at least one person trained and licensed to carry a firearm.

LOL you are an idiot , let the thinking be done by those that can handle it ....... Here is a gem , if those 2 assholes never get access to those Guns , Columbine never happens ....

Elway 4 Life
02-13-2012, 01:04 PM
LOL you are an idiot , let the thinking be done by those that can handle it ....... Here is a gem , if those 2 a-holes never get access to those Guns , Columbine never happens ....

If those 2 a-holes had better parents, Columbine never happens.

Fixed it for you.

Spider
02-13-2012, 01:07 PM
If those 2 a-holes had better parents, Columbine never happens.

Fixed it for you.

I see , so it was all the parents fault , Those kids were just misunderstood .Got it . I dont see how this dispels The fact that if those 2 assholes cant get a hold of guns Columbine never happens , but hey ,you gotta have an excuse right ?

Elway 4 Life
02-13-2012, 01:12 PM
No excuses here. Just stating that the parents could have done a better job parenting.

Dukes
02-13-2012, 01:16 PM
LOL you are an idiot , let the thinking be done by those that can handle it ....... Here is a gem , if those 2 a-holes never get access to those Guns , Columbine never happens ....

Guess we should get rid of fertilizer and ban the internet too, it's just too damn easy to make pipe bombs with so many recipes floating around.

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2012, 01:17 PM
The police were warned long in advanced about the possible trouble with Harris and Klebold in 1998. The also gained the firearms illegally getting an 18 year-old girl to buy the guns for them. She was not charged, but should have been.

lonestar
02-13-2012, 01:23 PM
The Columbine killers proudly support this thread ..........

I see the mental midgets have arrived..

lonestar
02-13-2012, 01:28 PM
Don't forget to stock up on ammo people. You should have thousands of rounds between your weapons. Especially in the bigger cities. If the **** ever goes down last thing you want is to run out of ammo. Thats why i like my .22 rifle. Ammo so cheap. I figure a shotgun, a .22 rifle, and a large caliber handgun is a pretty good all around arsenal.

Good advise.

Until just lately I have been unable to find ammo for my 45 and 380..

in the early stages of obama admin they stopped buying ammo for the troops..

Then they had to buy it, that is the biggest reason the manufactures were unable to supply it to the genreal pubilc...

Had a couple of Gun shops close down during that time frame as all they had to sell were guns.


Now no worryies I pick up a few boxes each month..

lonestar
02-13-2012, 01:32 PM
LOL you are an idiot , let the thinking be done by those that can handle it ....... Here is a gem , if those 2 a-holes never get access to those Guns , Columbine never happens ....

another moron that thinks banning guns will stop shootings..

That criminals will give up their weapons..

mental midgets all of you..

On the other hand had there been Concealed carry laws allowing them in schools many folks would not have died..

But you mental midgets will never get that..

If someone wants to kill there are many ways to do so.. Just thousands in chemistry class itself..

As I have said mental midgets and liberals will never get it..

Meck77
02-13-2012, 01:33 PM
I thought all WY boys supported the right to bear arms. *shrug*

Spider
02-13-2012, 01:51 PM
Guess we should get rid of fertilizer and ban the internet too, it's just too damn easy to make pipe bombs with so many recipes floating around.

Yeah bout that , they didnt make a bomb , they used a gun why ? .... When you figure that out Chief , call me we will talk

Spider
02-13-2012, 01:52 PM
I see the mental midgets have arrived..

LOL a birther calling someone a mental midget ....... ROFL!

Spider
02-13-2012, 01:55 PM
I thought all WY boys supported the right to bear arms. *shrug*

they do , doesnt make em right though ........

baja
02-13-2012, 01:59 PM
The second amendment is crucial to freedom in America.

I wish we had the right to bare arms here in Mexico.

baja
02-13-2012, 02:00 PM
It's mostly the drug dealers that have the guns here thanks to fast and furious.

lonestar
02-13-2012, 02:50 PM
LOL a birther calling someone a mental midget ....... ROFL!

a mental midget calling someone else names, is that not rich?..

For that matter calling names is the only way you know how to communicate I guess I should not expect more from you..

How does it feel to be an internet thug?

lonestar
02-13-2012, 02:52 PM
It's mostly the drug dealers that have the guns here thanks to fast and furious.

Another one of Nobamas FUBARS..

I know of Law enforcement folks from the US that have been arrested for carrying one across the border while in pursuit of drug runners and car thieves..

Some took months to get out of mexican jails.

YET the moron in the white house thought it would be good to give the drug dealers thousands of guns..

Pony Boy
02-13-2012, 02:55 PM
The Columbine killers proudly support this thread ..........

Lets ban airplanes so another 9-11 will never happen.

lonestar
02-13-2012, 02:57 PM
Lets ban airplanes so another 9-11 will never happen.

DO not forget trucks and cars

For that matter knives..

where there is a will there is a way..

Concealed carry laws have cut crime in all the states it is legal..

Dukes
02-13-2012, 03:19 PM
Yeah bout that , they didnt make a bomb , they used a gun why ? .... When you figure that out Chief , call me we will talk

You sure about that? Chief

lonestar
02-13-2012, 04:03 PM
OH BTW at columbine today a hammer was used to attack other students..

Just maybe it is the water down there..

Lets ban hammers also, maybe screw drivers and for sure pipe wrenches..

lonestar
02-13-2012, 04:15 PM
Hell all it takes to cause chaos at a school in a phone making a bomb threat..

banning guns is beyond dumb..

ghwk
02-13-2012, 04:28 PM
No excuses here. Just stating that the parents could have done a better job parenting.

How the heck would you know?

ghwk
02-13-2012, 04:30 PM
Gun Wisdom

Some words to the wise. Shooting Advice from various Concealed Carry Instructors.

If you own a gun, you will appreciate this. If not, you should get one and learn how to use it:


A; Guns have only two enemies rust and politicians.
B; Its always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
C; Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.
D; Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arms length.
E; Never say "I've got a gun." If you need to use deadly force, the first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off.
F; The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes, the response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second.
G; The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win - cheat if necessary.
H; Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets . . . You may get killed with your own gun, but he'll have to beat you to death with it, cause it'll be empty.
I; If you're in a gun fight:
1/ If you're not shooting, you should be loading.
2/ If you're not loading, you should be movin,
3/ If you're not movin', you're dead.
J; In a life and death situation, do something . . . It may be wrong, but do something!
K; If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?
L; You can say 'stop' or 'alto' or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone's head is pretty much a universal language.
M; You cannot save the planet, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.

If you believe in the 2nd Amendment, please pass this on.

You know I do own a gun and I know how to use it but I still see this as a pathetic cry for validation just like the open carry folks need. The Columbine shooters I am sure would have loved this, it has everything their low self esteem asses needed to feel good.

Folks who can take care of themselves don't need stuff like this to feel good, only the fragile and insecure do.

Meck77
02-13-2012, 04:30 PM
OH BTW at columbine today a hammer was used to attack other students..

Just maybe it is the water down there..

Lets ban hammers also, maybe screw drivers and for sure pipe wrenches..

I thought you were just trying to make a point. You weren't kidding.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/13/2-columbine-students-injured-in-hammer-attack/

Better add #2 pencils, pens and protractors to the list also. All could cause serious injury.

Rigs11
02-13-2012, 04:39 PM
No one is going to take your guns. More fear mongering from the right.you dipshets have anything else to do besides trying to scare people?Is this how you stir your base?

Spider
02-13-2012, 04:43 PM
a mental midget calling someone else names, is that not rich?..

For that matter calling names is the only way you know how to communicate I guess I should not expect more from you..

How does it feel to be an internet thug?

feels good you ****ing birther .......feels dayum good

Spider
02-13-2012, 04:44 PM
Lets ban airplanes so another 9-11 will never happen.

LMAO seriously ? I can get a gun right now , a Plane .......Not so much .... I cant even believe you bothered typing that bullshiat

Spider
02-13-2012, 04:45 PM
You sure about that? Chief

They wanted to , but they used guns instead..... Chief

Spider
02-13-2012, 04:47 PM
OH BTW at columbine today a hammer was used to attack other students..

Just maybe it is the water down there..

Lets ban hammers also, maybe screw drivers and for sure pipe wrenches..

LMAO now this I expected from you , you are not very bright , so his attack was as bad as the previous one right ?

Spider
02-13-2012, 04:49 PM
I thought you were just trying to make a point. You weren't kidding.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/13/2-columbine-students-injured-in-hammer-attack/

Better add #2 pencils, pens and protractors to the list also. All could cause serious injury.
LMAO come on meck really ? you agreeing with a Birther ?
you known me how long meck ? you really think you made a point here ?
How many kids died that day ?

Spider
02-13-2012, 04:51 PM
Cliff notes here , we got one guy that thinks getting a plane is as easy as getting a gun , another that thinks a hammer is the same as a gun ( and you people wonder why some of us want gun control ) and we have another righty that jumped on board with a birther and now equated Pencils with guns ........ And you people want to be taken seriously ? :rofl: .......

Meck77
02-13-2012, 04:54 PM
LMAO seriously ? I can get a gun right now

Really? Hmm..Maybe we do need tighter gun control.

I've "known" you for a decade now. From the stories you tell it's probably good you don't pack heat.

Garcia Bronco
02-13-2012, 05:07 PM
You know I do own a gun and I know how to use it but I still see this as a pathetic cry for validation just like the open carry folks need. The Columbine shooters I am sure would have loved this, it has everything their low self esteem asses needed to feel good.

Folks who can take care of themselves don't need stuff like this to feel good, only the fragile and insecure do.

Sometimes people are fragile and insecure for a good reason.

Spider
02-13-2012, 05:07 PM
Really? Hmm..Maybe we do need tighter gun control.

Thats a hellva lot better then equating a pencil as a fire arm , I can see it now .......AT the bank some guy pulls out a pencil to write something down , Meck mows him down with a shotgun

Spider
02-13-2012, 05:08 PM
I've "known" you for a decade now. From the stories you tell it's probably good you don't pack heat.

I dont , cause would use it , I dont even pack a knife , for the exact same reason .........

cutthemdown
02-13-2012, 05:16 PM
LOL you are an idiot , let the thinking be done by those that can handle it ....... Here is a gem , if those 2 a-holes never get access to those Guns , Columbine never happens ....

You think people wouldn't still snap and kill if guns were illegal? and you call me stupid? you are naive. If I had a kid they would be at a private school with trained security. No way making guns illegal would stop gun violence. Just like drugs being illegal doesn't stop drug use.

Spider
02-13-2012, 05:21 PM
You think people wouldn't still snap and kill if guns were illegal? and you call me stupid? you are naive. If I had a kid they would be at a private school with trained security. No way making guns illegal would stop gun violence. Just like drugs being illegal doesn't stop drug use.

where did Isay People wouldnt snap ? It is much easier to kill alot of people with a gun then a knife , Hammer , Pencil etc ....... Now knock it off and use your head for something besides a hat rack .......

baja
02-13-2012, 07:00 PM
I think everyone should carry a gun especially while driving on LA freeways.

That One Guy
02-13-2012, 07:32 PM
No one is going to take your guns. More fear mongering from the right.you dipshets have anything else to do besides trying to scare people?Is this how you stir your base?

I agree the post is pretty lame but I have no doubt they'd love to regulate so heavily that people wouldn't just have a gun laying around for the sake of it. Especially handguns.

Requiem
02-13-2012, 08:05 PM
Sheesh.

Rohirrim
02-13-2012, 08:18 PM
I believe in the second amendment. In fact, I want one of these:

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cutthemdown
02-13-2012, 09:45 PM
Yep this is how we stir up the base. When it works and Obama loses don't cry ok. We stir up the base by letting people know what Obamas real plans are.

cutthemdown
02-13-2012, 09:47 PM
I believe in the second amendment. In fact, I want one of these:

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KqUb23XCTCY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I really don't see why i shouldn't have one of those. What if the Chinese invade and we need to blow up tanks?

ant1999e
02-13-2012, 10:27 PM
LOL you are an idiot

Uh, no that would be you...

lonestar
02-13-2012, 10:55 PM
You think people wouldn't still snap and kill if guns were illegal? and you call me stupid? you are naive. If I had a kid they would be at a private school with trained security. No way making guns illegal would stop gun violence. Just like drugs being illegal doesn't stop drug use.

why are you trying to prove a valid point to a moron?

FWIW from 1998 on my kids went to private schools..

one in military other in a Christian school.

While neither had armed guards, nor did they have any issues with attacks..

It was not because of fear of what might happen in the public schools it was the fear of what would not happen like them getting an education..

It happened right after my sophomore son was required to take a state mandated test that if you did not pass it you could not graduate..

Afteward he told me there was nothing on the test he did not have in 8th grade.. He was enrolled the next semester in Military school..

that was when they were actually teaching classes now they "teach the test".. can't imagine the lack of teaching today..

As for Columbine could have happened with or without gun control..

Probably today it would be with guns bought from the feds in a "sting"

Spider
02-13-2012, 10:56 PM
Uh, no that would be you...

LOL way to refute anything I said .......If someone ever broke into my house , they would pray I would use a gun , cause it would be very painful ...... Aluminum bats dont have the same effect as a good old fashion wooden bat .....

Spider
02-13-2012, 10:58 PM
why are you trying to prove a valid point to a moron?

FWIW from 1998 on my kids went to private schools..

one in military other in a Christian school.

While neither had armed guards, nor did they have any issues with attacks..

It was not because of fear of what might happen in the public schools it was the fear of what would not happen like them getting an education..

It happened right after my sophomore son was required to take a state mandated test that if you did not pass it you could not graduate..

Afteward he told me there was nothing on the test he did not have in 8th grade.. He was enrolled the next semester in Military school..

that was when they were actually teaching classes now they "teach the test".. can't imagine the lack of teaching today..

As for Columbine could have happened with or without gun control..

Probably today it would be with guns bought from the feds in a "sting"

Well Birther , you need to sit down and have your kids help you out ..I doubt they can , but it is worth a shot

lonestar
02-13-2012, 11:01 PM
Well Birther , you need to sit down and have your kids help you out ..I doubt they can , but it is worth a shot

WELL moron how do you make it through the day..

Spider
02-13-2012, 11:05 PM
WELL moron how do you make it through the day..

No being a birther or a toofer ( different sides of the same coin) Is a hellva start .....Dont blame me cause you are an Idiot .....but I will admit you got it worse , a little assed runt with a grand conspiracy theory motivating him ......

lonestar
02-13-2012, 11:07 PM
No being a birther or a toofer ( different sides of the same coin) Is a hellva start .....Dont blame me cause you are an Idiot .....but I will admit you got it worse , a little assed runt with a grand conspiracy theory motivating him ......

BOY your a real tuffie arn't you

how ever still a moron..

nite....

Spider
02-13-2012, 11:08 PM
BOY your a real tuffie arn't you you dont ever want to find out ........

how ever still a moron.. :rofl: a birther ........ nuff said

nite....

nite

Elway 4 Life
02-14-2012, 05:57 AM
How the heck would you know?

Seriously?

In case you are I have to ask a couple questions. Do you have kids? If so are they teenagers?

To answer your question, I dont know for sure. I do know as a parent that when my kid was a teenager my wife and I were very protective (almost to a fault). There is know way in a million years we wouldnt have seen the signs or at the very least collection of weapons. If those kids parents were as vigilant as my wife and I were there might not have been an incident.

Spider
02-14-2012, 06:51 AM
Seriously?

In case you are I have to ask a couple questions. Do you have kids? If so are they teenagers?

To answer your question, I dont know for sure. I do know as a parent that when my kid was a teenager my wife and I were very protective (almost to a fault). There is know way in a million years we wouldnt have seen the signs or at the very least collection of weapons. If those kids parents were as vigilant as my wife and I were there might not have been an incident.

now this is responsible gun ownership , nothing like the original post in his thread , Guns are too dangerous not to be taken seriously .......
Just don see much room for false bravado and gun ownership , I am the same way about driving also

baja
02-14-2012, 07:34 AM
The main reason the current rouge power grabbing government in the USA is not more in your face is because there are 150 million privately owned guns in America. The founding fathers knew what they were doing when the drafted the 2nd amendment.

Spider
02-14-2012, 07:47 AM
The main reason the current rouge power grabbing government in the USA is not more in your face is because there are 150 million privately owned guns in America. The founding fathers knew what they were doing when the drafted the 2nd amendment.

Thats insane , the reason why is guns are also a part of the sporting world as well as defense for some pusscake , 150 million guns would be no match if Marshall law was employed , still have to see a hunting rifle take out a tank ........naw the government doesnt give a rats ass if you own guns , they just dont military type of weaponry on the streets , and for dayum good reason .....

baja
02-14-2012, 07:59 AM
Thats insane , the reason why is guns are also a part of the sporting world as well as defense for some pusscake , 150 million guns would be no match if Marshall law was employed , still have to see a hunting rifle take out a tank ........naw the government doesnt give a rats ass if you own guns , they just dont military type of weaponry on the streets , and for dayum good reason .....


How much longer do you think you can play the tough guy Spider?

Wooden bats aren't a great plan against a young hood with a gun looting your house.

Sometimes brave is mistaken for foolish.

baja
02-14-2012, 08:03 AM
Thats insane , the reason why is guns are also a part of the sporting world as well as defense for some pusscake , 150 million guns would be no match if Marshall law was employed , still have to see a hunting rifle take out a tank ........naw the government doesnt give a rats ass if you own guns , they just dont military type of weaponry on the streets , and for dayum good reason .....

You did catch the number, right?

That's a 150,000,000 armed men and women protecting their freedom if threatened strongly enough. And who do you think will stand against them? Other Americans who happen to wear a military uniform.

I DON'T THINK SO.

Spider
02-14-2012, 08:07 AM
How much longer do you think you can play the tough guy Spider?

Wooden bats aren't a great plan against a young hood with a gun looting your house.

Sometimes brave is mistaken for foolish.

till the day I die , and a young hood armed is no match for a guy like me , Never has been never will be , foolish ? how so no one is guaranteed to live for ever on earth , we all die , just a matter of time , I have seen people with guns get killed also , when your # is up , it is up doesnt matter if you are armed or unarmed ..... Healthy people die just like sick people do .....

Spider
02-14-2012, 08:09 AM
You did catch the number, right?

That's a 150,000,000 armed men and women protecting their freedom if threatened strongly enough. And who do you think will stand against them? Other Americans who happen to wear a military uniform.

I DON'T THINK SO.

oh brother ..... ok lets say Russia invades us how many hunting riles would it take to stop a tank ? Shoot an F16 out of the air ? would you say 100 people armed with Riles would be a good solid match for a seals like team ?

baja
02-14-2012, 08:15 AM
oh brother ..... ok lets say Russia invades us how many hunting riles would it take to stop a tank ? Shoot an F16 out of the air ? would you say 100 people armed with Riles would be a good solid match for a seals like team ?

I am not talking about an invasion from an outside force, I'm talking about an armed citizenry to protect themselves from a power /freedom grabbing government. History has shown time and time again governments, left to their own devices, will seek more and more power.

The short of it is an armed American has a better chance than a disarmed America.

That One Guy
02-14-2012, 08:24 AM
I am not talking about an invasion from an outside force, I'm talking about an armed citizenry to protect themselves from a power /freedom grabbing government. History has shown time and time again governments, left to their own devices, will seek more and more power.

The short of it is an armed American has a better chance than a disarmed America.

I agree except a gun doesn't help against an incrementally imposing government. All those guns would make a difference if someone decided to declare themselves emperor or something but they don't save the people from what we're currently seeing.

That One Guy
02-14-2012, 08:26 AM
How much longer do you think you can play the tough guy Spider?

Wooden bats aren't a great plan against a young hood with a gun looting your house.

Sometimes brave is mistaken for foolish.

How much longer can people continue to let Spider play the tough guy role? Anyone still listening to that blathering idiot is a fool as his uselessness on these forums has long been established. MAYBE the oil field discussions were one place where he genuinely had good input. Everything else is boasting, bravado, insults, or ignorance.

Spider
02-14-2012, 08:33 AM
I am not talking about an invasion from an outside force, I'm talking about an armed citizenry to protect themselves from a power /freedom grabbing government. History has shown time and time again governments, left to their own devices, will seek more and more power.

The short of it is an armed American has a better chance than a disarmed America.

LOL if government wants they could do it by legislating and what good are your guns then ? gonna shoot the shiat out of the voting machine ?

Spider
02-14-2012, 08:33 AM
How much longer can people continue to let Spider play the tough guy role? Anyone still listening to that blathering idiot is a fool as his uselessness on these forums has long been established. MAYBE the oil field discussions were one place where he genuinely had good input. Everything else is boasting, bravado, insults, or ignorance.

boo hoo baby girl

alkemical
02-14-2012, 09:46 AM
You did catch the number, right?

That's a 150,000,000 armed men and women protecting their freedom if threatened strongly enough. And who do you think will stand against them? Other Americans who happen to wear a military uniform.

I DON'T THINK SO.

Contractors. :)

Arkie
02-14-2012, 11:10 AM
Since we are all being hard assed gun totin bad asses , lets celebrate ......Let be all cool n shiat .....


That's the point. Guns level the playing field. I know you're a hard assed bad ass without a gun, but I also know your a good person that wouldn't take advantage of someone weaker. If we outlaw guns, then evil people have an unfair advantage with an illegally obtained weapon or brute strength alone.

Spider
02-14-2012, 11:44 AM
That's the point. Guns level the playing field. I know you're a hard assed bad ass without a gun, but I also know your a good person that wouldn't take advantage of someone weaker. If we outlaw guns, then evil people have an unfair advantage with an illegally obtained weapon or brute strength alone.

I understand that , and I dont want to take anyones gun away , but I want people to be responsible ... I thought about teaching a self defense course , you dont have to be built like me or some kind of blackbelt in karate , 2 things predators use ......
1. fear .... they want you to fear them , last thing they want is a fair fight ...
2. element of surprise , they dont want you to be expecting it , shock and fear ..
I found water bottles filled with Clorox bleach , Wooden baseball bats , hot hamburger grease and rearranging your furniture regularly will all help in home defense , when out on the streets dont stand out , blend in and for petes sake dont act like a victim or you will end up as one , Small blades hidden between your fingers , car keys in between your middle finger and ring finger , tazers , pepper spray , all of these things will save you in a jam ...... ;)

Pony Boy
02-14-2012, 02:33 PM
The Columbine killers proudly support this thread ..........

This is the last straw.... ban all hammers, get them off the store shelves

2 Columbine H.S. students wounded in hammer attack

JEFFERSON COUNTY, Colo. -- Two Columbine High School students were wounded when a hammer-wielding classmate attacked them outside a school restroom Monday. We’re going to the bathrooms and the next thing you know she pulls a hammer out of her backpack,” he says.

Flowers says the 14-year-old began swinging the hammer at his friend’s head, at which point he intervened and sustained injuries to his right hand.

“It could have been a life or death thing with a hammer. Swinging at (my friend's) face...and she didn’t have anything to defend herself.”

http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-report-hammer-attack-injures-2-columbine-hs-students-20120213,0,1356471.story

Spider
02-14-2012, 02:36 PM
This is the last straw.... ban all hammers, get them off the store shelves

2 Columbine H.S. students wounded in hammer attack

JEFFERSON COUNTY, Colo. -- Two Columbine High School students were wounded when a hammer-wielding classmate attacked them outside a school restroom Monday. We’re going to the bathrooms and the next thing you know she pulls a hammer out of her backpack,” he says.

Flowers says the 14-year-old began swinging the hammer at his friend’s head, at which point he intervened and sustained injuries to his right hand.

“It could have been a life or death thing with a hammer. Swinging at (my friend's) face...and she didn’t have anything to defend herself.”

http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-report-hammer-attack-injures-2-columbine-hs-students-20120213,0,1356471.story
:rofl: genius we already covered this ....... So to you this is just as bad as what happened that day huh ? Well now you see how stupid the plane thing was give you credit for that

Pony Boy
02-14-2012, 02:49 PM
:rofl: genius we already covered this ....... So to you this is just as bad as what happened that day huh ? Well now you see how stupid the plane thing was give you credit for that

Alright ..... How about this one...... ban all cars and trucks

Ballet dancer Zina Bethune dies after being hit by two cars and dragged 600ft along road as she stopped to help wounded possum ROFL!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100821/Zina-Bethune-dead-Former-ballet-dancer-dies-hit-2-cars-helping-possum.html

Spider
02-14-2012, 02:55 PM
Alright ..... How about this one...... ban all cars and trucks

Ballet dancer Zina Bethune dies after being hit by two cars and dragged 600ft along road as she stopped to help wounded possum ROFL!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100821/Zina-Bethune-dead-Former-ballet-dancer-dies-hit-2-cars-helping-possum.html

thats it ? ...... didnt read anything about a truck ...... oh wait you are trying to prove a point ;D .... I see what you did there ......

ant1999e
02-14-2012, 03:48 PM
A dumb ass truckers jack knifed his truck on I15 here in Vegas this morning. Backed traffic up for miles and made me late to work. I say ban all truckers.

lonestar
02-14-2012, 04:02 PM
How much longer can people continue to let Spider play the tough guy role? Anyone still listening to that blathering idiot is a fool as his uselessness on these forums has long been established. MAYBE the oil field discussions were one place where he genuinely had good input. Everything else is boasting, bravado, insults, or ignorance.

a few folks have repped me with the comment he is an internet thug..

mr tough guy, yet wants to train folks in self-defense..

Every self-defense course I have ever seen, says just the opposite. Never use your size, skills to beat up on others..

HAve never seen an instructor that mocks or engages in being a tough guy.. Every one has been self-confident and for the most part teach walking away and not engaging.. and using force as a LAST resort..

Which tells me that he is a bully and many fall prey to his Male Bovine Excrement..

Yet his expertise in OIL commentary is interesting..

Maybe he should confine himslef to being useful instead of being a Putz.

Spider
02-14-2012, 04:52 PM
mr tough guy, yet wants to train folks in self-defense..

Every self-defense course I have ever seen, says just the opposite. Never use your size, skills to beat up on others..



Maybe he should confine himslef to being useful instead of being a Putz. :rofl: you retard this is what I said ........I understand that , and I dont want to take anyones gun away , but I want people to be responsible ... I thought about teaching a self defense course , you dont have to be built like me or some kind of blackbelt in karate , 2 things predators use ......

Spider
02-14-2012, 04:53 PM
A dumb ass truckers jack knifed his truck on I15 here in Vegas this morning. Backed traffic up for miles and made me late to work. I say ban all truckers.

How in the **** did a truck wreck make you late picking up cans ?

Spider
02-14-2012, 04:54 PM
:rofl: thinking a birther can understand what he reads .........

orinjkrush
02-14-2012, 06:05 PM
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

don't think there is a "responsible" sub-clause there. or "adult". or "registered" or "assault weapon" or conventional weapon. or biological weapon. or nuclear weapon.

I for one want a suitcase nuke to use on Goldman Sucks.

Spider
02-14-2012, 06:27 PM
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

don't think there is a "responsible" sub-clause there. or "adult". or "registered" or "assault weapon" or conventional weapon. or biological weapon. or nuclear weapon.

I for one want a suitcase nuke to use on Goldman Sucks.

hell if it is a weapon of mass destruction you want , I will send you some of my ex wifes cooking .....cheap to ;D

That One Guy
02-14-2012, 07:07 PM
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

don't think there is a "responsible" sub-clause there. or "adult". or "registered" or "assault weapon" or conventional weapon. or biological weapon. or nuclear weapon.

I for one want a suitcase nuke to use on Goldman Sucks.

The right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Such vague wording and easily exploitable as they see fit.