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BroncoInferno
02-02-2012, 10:52 AM
Let the wild speculations begin:

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/02/01/12/New-Jags-owner-I-would-have-drafted-Tebo/msn_landing.html?blockID=657464&feedID=6916

broncocalijohn
02-02-2012, 10:54 AM
The new owner is selling his $110 million yacht. Maybe trade it to Bowlen for Tebow? BTW, the new owner looks a lot like Ron Jeremy. Amazing when the new owner is from Pakistan.

Kaylore
02-02-2012, 10:55 AM
I'm glad our owner doesn't look like he makes-a-the-pizza-pie!

lonestar
02-02-2012, 10:59 AM
I'm glad our owner doesn't look like he makes-a-the-pizza-pie!

Frankly not an Italian, BUT did anyone check under his suit jacket for a bomb?

Rolandftw
02-02-2012, 11:06 AM
Sounds like he's speaking from a business perspective and not a football one.

Chris
02-02-2012, 11:13 AM
Behold

The new Jags Logo

http://ny-image3.etsy.com/il_430xN.33100523.jpg

BroncoMan4ever
02-02-2012, 11:13 AM
Frankly not an Italian, BUT did anyone check under his suit jacket for a bomb?

aren't there american billionaires that could have bought an NFL franchise?

isn't Mark Cuban always trying to get his hands on another franchise? the guy might be a bit of a douche, but he is a fun owner.

Pick Six
02-02-2012, 11:17 AM
The new owner is selling his $110 million yacht. Maybe trade it to Bowlen for Tebow? BTW, the new owner looks a lot like Ron Jeremy. Amazing when the new owner is from Pakistan.

I can see Ron Jeremy, but that mustache makes me think of Mario or Luigi...

Beantown Bronco
02-02-2012, 11:18 AM
aren't there american billionaires that could have bought an NFL franchise?

Not to nit-pick, but this guy is technically an American.

Gort
02-02-2012, 11:18 AM
aren't there american billionaires that could have bought an NFL franchise?

isn't Mark Cuban always trying to get his hands on another franchise? the guy might be a bit of a douche, but he is a fun owner.

huh? a bit of a douche??

that's like saying the sun is a bit warm, or Madonna is a bit slutty, or Josh McDaniels is a bit evil.

Pick Six
02-02-2012, 11:20 AM
Tebow is a hot media commodity, now. It's only natural ($) to say that he would have drafted Tebow...

BroncoBeavis
02-02-2012, 11:20 AM
The new owner is selling his $110 million yacht. Maybe trade it to Bowlen for Tebow? BTW, the new owner looks a lot like Ron Jeremy. Amazing when the new owner is from Pakistan.

Well, at least we've got a competitor for that MissouriBronc Pack fan for best pornstache.

Gort
02-02-2012, 11:20 AM
I can see Ron Jeremy, but that mustache makes me think of Mario or Luigi...

that dude's a billionaire. he can get laid more often than Ron Jeremy, and by more different women, if he so chooses.

LonghornBronco
02-02-2012, 11:21 AM
Behold

The new Jags Logo

http://ny-image3.etsy.com/il_430xN.33100523.jpg

I see what you did there...

He does look like Dali

TheReverend
02-02-2012, 11:25 AM
I'm glad our owner doesn't look like he makes-a-the-pizza-pie!

lol I really like him!

Appearance gimmicks don't ONLY work if they're on our #2 draft pick, fyi.

Miss I.
02-02-2012, 11:29 AM
Frankly not an Italian, BUT did anyone check under his suit jacket for a bomb?

Well that's just silly. Have you never seen the Godfather movies, Italians are always blowing **** up or shooting it. Thatsawhattheydo. ;D

loborugger
02-02-2012, 11:33 AM
Funny - if some of the comments on here made about Khan were made about a black dude, you would be run off the interwebz as racist - and probably banned.

bronco militia
02-02-2012, 11:34 AM
I'm glad our owner doesn't look like he makes-a-the-pizza-pie!

that's racist!!

Miss I.
02-02-2012, 11:36 AM
Funny - if some of the comments on here made about Khan were made about a black dude, you would be run off the interwebz as racist - and probably banned.

Indeed. There is a very fine line between satirical humor and outright racist humor. I for instance do not actually think all Italians blow things up. My grandma was Italian, but she didn't blow things up, though she did carry a gun. She had the heaviest purse ever. It was like, Stop or my Nona will shoot! :curtsey:

Gort
02-02-2012, 11:38 AM
Well that's just silly. Have you never seen the Godfather movies, Italians are always blowing **** up or shooting it. Thatsawhattheydo. ;D

eh!, wassamaddayou? you want i should slap you?

http://images.buddytv.com/articles/the-sopranos/images/vincent-pastore-1.jpg

TheReverend
02-02-2012, 11:38 AM
that's racist!!

Pakistanis are known for their pizza?!

TheReverend
02-02-2012, 11:40 AM
Funny - if some of the comments on here made about Khan were made about a black dude, you would be run off the interwebz as racist - and probably banned.

Doubt it. The internet's the most racist "place" in the world. Granted our "smaller" community and less anonymity and mods that are very active (in this regard) keep that at bay.

Gort
02-02-2012, 11:40 AM
that's racist!!

is this racist? or just making fun of stereotypes?

http://www.nastyhobbit.org/data/media/4/thats-racist.gif

Miss I.
02-02-2012, 11:43 AM
is this racist? or just making fun of stereotypes?

http://www.nastyhobbit.org/data/media/4/thats-racist.gif

Oh my gawd, I get it. When you guys post all them nekkid girls with probably fake tatas, it's your way of poking fun at the world's obsession with sexualized commodified images of women. I get it. Totally bad ass, I had no idea the OM was so progressive. Carry on. ;D

TheReverend
02-02-2012, 11:47 AM
Fyi, in case anyone wants to discuss football ITT (lol), here's the most interesting tidbit:

"When is the next time Jacksonville is going to have an athlete like Tim Tebow?" Khan said. "Coming from being raised in Illinois, I couldn't see Red Grange playing for anybody other than the Bears or Dick Butkus playing for anybody other than the Bears. I don't want to get into 20/20 hindsight, and God help us, the draft record has not been the best with the Jaguars."

Gene Smith has been the Jags GM since 2009 and the college/pro personnel director before that. He got a 3 year contract extension from Wayne Weaver the same day that Weaver fired Del Rio and sold the team. So basically this is a vote of no confidence from the new owner in Gene Smith's past performance at his occupation.

Gort
02-02-2012, 11:50 AM
Fyi, in case anyone wants to discuss football ITT (lol), here's the most interesting tidbit:



Gene Smith has been the Jags GM since 2009 and the college/pro personnel director before that. He got a 3 year contract extension from Wayne Weaver the same day that Weaver fired Del Rio and sold the team. So basically this is a vote of no confidence from the new owner in Gene Smith's past performance at his occupation.

you also have to take into account that the new Jags owner just insulted his fans by saying that the only true fans were the ones who came to games. so talk about Tebow is probably designed to help offset that major faux pas.

bronco militia
02-02-2012, 11:51 AM
:giggle:Fyi, in case anyone wants to discuss football ITT (lol), here's the most interesting tidbit:



Gene Smith has been the Jags GM since 2009 and the college/pro personnel director before that. He got a 3 year contract extension from Wayne Weaver the same day that Weaver fired Del Rio and sold the team. So basically this is a vote of no confidence from the new owner in Gene Smith's past performance at his occupation.

doh! maybe he thought he was buying a soccer team?

TheReverend
02-02-2012, 11:51 AM
you also have to take into account that the new Jags owner just insulted his fans by saying that the only true fans were the ones who came to games. so talk about Tebow is probably designed to help offset that major faux pas.

I doubt it. I think he's just shooting straight from the hip and being honest from his POV. Nothing about this article is PC considering he trashed his own scouting department and GM in it.

55CrushEm
02-02-2012, 11:56 AM
is this racist? or just making fun of stereotypes?

http://www.nastyhobbit.org/data/media/4/thats-racist.gif

:spit:

Hahaha! I've never seen this animated gif with the basketball, watermelon, KFC, necklace, cornrows......

The best is when he talks, the watermelon comes flying out of his mouth....

Hilarious!

Spider
02-02-2012, 11:59 AM
Pat Bowlen should send this guy a memo ........12 pack of Bud light and a carton of Camels and you can have Tebow ......Fair price to pay to turn your NFL offense into a college offense

BroncoBeavis
02-02-2012, 12:03 PM
Italian jokes...

Black Jokes, Mexican Jokes. They're all the same.

Once you've seen Juan, you've seen Jamal.

Sorry.

LonghornBronco
02-02-2012, 12:03 PM
Pat Bowlen should send this guy a memo ........12 pack of Bud light and a carton of Camels and you can have Tebow ......Fair price to pay to turn your NFL offense into a playoff offense

Fixed it for ya, no charge.

Jay3
02-02-2012, 12:04 PM
TEBOW!

http://i.imgur.com/5TOTb.jpg

Spider
02-02-2012, 12:05 PM
Fixed it for ya, no charge.

Dayum you want to send them our defense also ? ......

v2micca
02-02-2012, 12:05 PM
Not to nit-pick, but this guy is technically an American.

This guy is about as American as you can get. He made his fortune building front and rear bumpers for Trucks. He's the kind of guy that represents why America is one of the richest countries in the world, We poach other country's talent while they are still young and developing and make them ours.

Anyway, reading the blurb on him, sounds like the guy worked his @$$ off, made some bold business decisions, got lucky by backing the right horse, and cashed in big. All the kind of traits you want in the head honcho of your Football Team.

LonghornBronco
02-02-2012, 12:07 PM
are you talking about the same defense that started out 1-4?

Spider
02-02-2012, 12:10 PM
are you talking about the same defense that started out 1-4?

no the same defense Tebow rode the coat tails of ......

Kaylore
02-02-2012, 12:12 PM
that's racist!!

Pizza makers everywhere: I'm sorry.

Shananahan
02-02-2012, 12:14 PM
Pat Bowlen should send this guy a memo ........12 pack of Bud light and a carton of Camels and you can have Tebow ......Fair price to pay to turn your NFL offense into a college offense
So this is what every thread about football is going to turn into for the rest of the offseason, huh?

WolfpackGuy
02-02-2012, 12:15 PM
Pakistani Al Sharpton

Rohirrim
02-02-2012, 12:16 PM
I swear I've seen that guy before:

http://www.popfi.com/wp-content/uploads/tiger-woods-cigar-guy.jpg

Spider
02-02-2012, 12:17 PM
So this is what every thread about football is going to turn into for the rest of the offseason, huh?

you can always put me on ignore .........

BroncoInferno
02-02-2012, 12:19 PM
So, if Khan wants to kickoff his ownership in style and calls up EFX to make a deal, what, if anything, would you folks be willing to take? Would a 2nd rounder be enough? 1st rounder? A particular player? Some other combination of picks and/or players? Or is there nothing you would accept?

Beantown Bronco
02-02-2012, 12:20 PM
He got a 3 year contract extension from Wayne Weaver the same day that Weaver fired Del Rio and sold the team.

If I was the new owner, I'd try to have my lawyers argue that Weaver signed that contract extension an hour after the sale was done, so he had no authority to sign it.

If that doesn't work, just fire him. He can't be making THAT much money in the grand scheme of things. Probably nothing more than a rounding error in his financials.

Beantown Bronco
02-02-2012, 12:21 PM
So, if Khan wants to kickoff his ownership in style and calls up EFX to make a deal, what, if anything, would you folks be willing to take? Would a 2nd rounder be enough? 1st rounder? A particular player? Some other combination of picks and/or players? Or is there nothing you would accept?

MJD + a first rounder :)

BroncoInferno
02-02-2012, 12:24 PM
MJD + a first rounder :)

Cosign :)

Of course, a trade is not probable, but I'm just curious as to the minimum return that people would find acceptable.

TheReverend
02-02-2012, 12:28 PM
If I was the new owner, I'd try to have my lawyers argue that Weaver signed that contract extension an hour after the sale was done, so he had no authority to sign it.

If that doesn't work, just fire him. He can't be making THAT much money in the grand scheme of things. Probably nothing more than a rounding error in his financials.

I ASSUME he's keeping him on board more to assist with the aspects of ownership that he may have become familiar with during Weaver's tenure.

Miss I.
02-02-2012, 12:28 PM
I would trade him for Aaron Rodgers, but I heard he plays for Green Bay.....and yes I am an ass....

http://img0.etsystatic.com/il_570xN.263118772.jpg

BroncoLifer
02-02-2012, 12:34 PM
eh!, wassamaddayou? you want i should slap you?

http://images.buddytv.com/articles/the-sopranos/images/vincent-pastore-1.jpg

I heard that guy is a Big P***Y.

jhns
02-02-2012, 12:35 PM
So, if Khan wants to kickoff his ownership in style and calls up EFX to make a deal, what, if anything, would you folks be willing to take? Would a 2nd rounder be enough? 1st rounder? A particular player? Some other combination of picks and/or players? Or is there nothing you would accept?

Four way deal where we get Cutler and Marshall back.

Captain 'Dre
02-02-2012, 12:38 PM
Funny - if some of the comments on here made about Khan were made about a black dude, you would be run off the interwebz as racist - and probably banned.

Yeah... that's really weird, considering American Civil War was fought over freeing the Pakistani's from slavery. :~ohyah!:

bronco militia
02-02-2012, 12:41 PM
Italian jokes...

Black Jokes, Mexican Jokes. They're all the same.

Once you've seen Juan, you've seen Jamal.

Sorry.

Hilarious!

Miss I.
02-02-2012, 12:41 PM
okay all smartassery aside, since I know very little about this man, except what is on this thread, is his comment about Tebow genuine or simply a way to promote the team and grab a little of the spotlight Tebow has. Not that this decision would not be noseworthy, but I would imagine in terms of news feeds, the fact that Tebow's name is in the article increases its circulation.

Captain 'Dre
02-02-2012, 12:42 PM
:spit:

Hahaha! I've never seen this animated gif with the basketball, watermelon, KFC, necklace, cornrows......

The best is when he talks, the watermelon comes flying out of his mouth....

Hilarious!

You forgot to mention the Pebbles Flinstone-esque bone in the hair. :yayaya:

Captain 'Dre
02-02-2012, 12:43 PM
okay all smartassery aside, since I know very little about this man, except what is on this thread, is his comment about Tebow genuine or simply a way to promote the team and grab a little of the spotlight Tebow has. Not that this decision would not be noseworthy, but I would imagine in terms of news feeds, the fact that Tebow's name is in the article increases its circulation.

"Noseworthy"? Hilarious!

Best typo I've seen in a while!

TheReverend
02-02-2012, 12:44 PM
okay all smartassery aside, since I know very little about this man, except what is on this thread, is his comment about Tebow genuine or simply a way to promote the team and grab a little of the spotlight Tebow has. Not that this decision would not be noseworthy, but I would imagine in terms of news feeds, the fact that Tebow's name is in the article increases its circulation.

His comments don't promote his team in any positive light, so what would that lead you to believe?

bendog
02-02-2012, 12:46 PM
that's racist!!

He's a Pak. At least we should get the slur right.

Kaylore
02-02-2012, 12:49 PM
How has this thread gone three pages without any Jew jokes?

Miss I.
02-02-2012, 12:50 PM
"Noseworthy"? Hilarious!

Best typo I've seen in a while!

ooops, damn it....stupid autocorrect...okay not really, just fat fingers...bitches need to go on a diet....

As to the other response, not making the argument so much as wondering if the bent of the article was his response or the writer's to garner more coverage. At this point, though I love Tim, it feels like a lot of people trying to jump onto the Tim train. If I was a sportswriter and I wanted to ensure whatever I wrote got adequate positioning either in the paper or on the internet Tebow would somehow feature prominently. I don't know that I believe there is any likelihood that a trade would happen. It seems to me it's just a safe thing to say right now given Tim's popularity, regardless of the controversy over his adaptability to the NFL.

Shananahan
02-02-2012, 12:52 PM
His comments don't promote his team in any positive light, so what would that lead you to believe?
Maybe he's simply just trying to encourage the fanbase about what the future of the team will look like with him as an owner. I can't imagine it's that effective to preach hindsight, but in this instance with Tebow I could possibly see how it might cause some fans to think this guy gets it or something.

bendog
02-02-2012, 12:54 PM
He's a bit of a loose cannon (bad joke) but imo he heart's in the right spot.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/blog/400617/gene-frenette/2012-01-13/gene-frenette-wrath-over-khans-joke-about-season-ticket

I admire the guy's life story. Y'all can find that yourselves if it interests you.

bronco militia
02-02-2012, 12:56 PM
How has this thread gone three pages without any Jew jokes?

doh! he's fooled us all.

Rich guy buys a cheap football team=Jew! :~ohyah!:

Miss I.
02-02-2012, 12:58 PM
Maybe he's simply just trying to encourage the fanbase about what the future of the team will look like with him as an owner. I can't imagine it's that effective to preach hindsight, but in this instance with Tebow I could possibly see how it might cause some fans to think this guy gets it or something.

makes sense actually.

loborugger
02-02-2012, 12:58 PM
Indeed. There is a very fine line between satirical humor and outright racist humor. I for instance do not actually think all Italians blow things up. My grandma was Italian, but she didn't blow things up, though she did carry a gun. She had the heaviest purse ever. It was like, Stop or my Nona will shoot! :curtsey:

I don't really care, to be honest. Tell any joke you want. Some are even funny. I am more interested in the hypocrisy and holier than attitude of the modern American towards ethnic jokes - esp about blacks.

And for crying out loud, this insensitivity is being put on full display during Black History Month.

Mogulseeker
02-02-2012, 01:03 PM
aren't there american billionaires that could have bought an NFL franchise?

isn't Mark Cuban always trying to get his hands on another franchise? the guy might be a bit of a douche, but he is a fun owner.

I think the NFL has a rul that you can't be a majority owner of two different teams in two different leagues.

If they didn't, Kroenke would sell the Avalanche, Nuggets, Arsenal and Rapids and become the full-time owner of the St. Louis Rams.

Butterscotch Stallion
02-02-2012, 01:07 PM
Four way deal where we get Cutler and Marshall back.

But what is in it for the Broncos?

TheReverend
02-02-2012, 01:07 PM
Maybe he's simply just trying to encourage the fanbase about what the future of the team will look like with him as an owner. I can't imagine it's that effective to preach hindsight, but in this instance with Tebow I could possibly see how it might cause some fans to think this guy gets it or something.

Meh, he did that extensively along with Mularkey in an event called "Rise Up" or something along those lines. He's just being candid.

Carmelo15
02-02-2012, 01:10 PM
Funny - if some of the comments on here made about Khan were made about a black dude, you would be run off the interwebz as racist - and probably banned.

THIS. Especially the comment about the bomb. I know he was just trying to be funny but its its not

jhns
02-02-2012, 01:11 PM
But what is in it for the Broncos?

Poor Florida fan...

Butterscotch Stallion
02-02-2012, 01:12 PM
Poor Florida fan...

What, no Mcfan? ****.

jhns
02-02-2012, 01:15 PM
What, no Mcfan? ****.

That is a given. Florida fan became McFans when he drafted your boy.

Kaylore
02-02-2012, 01:16 PM
What, no Mcfan? ****.

Disagreeing with jhiz = McFan.

Miss I.
02-02-2012, 01:18 PM
THIS. Especially the comment about the bomb. I know he was just trying to be funny but its its not

Bomb thing was less offensive I think than the why can't we get American owners. The bomb thing is over the top and clearly ridiculous. the comments about the American ownership was based on what exactly?

Out of curiosity i did look him up in Wikipedia. yes he was born in Pakistan, but he is a naturalized citizen like a lot of other friends I have actually and the former Governator come to think of it. Nobody questions their American citizenship? Hate to break it to people, but the US is an immigrant nation. We didn't stop letting people become citizens once we got a big enough population or something.

Besides this guy is an Industrial Engineer and my dad is an Industrial Engineer. I wish my dad had made enough money to buy me a football team because that would be cool.

anyway a little info, it is wikipedia, but it's something anyway
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahid_Khan

After reading it, I am more inclined to see Rev's point on this, he probably was just being candid. My dad says stuff all the time very candidly. I think engineers are wired very special. ;D

jhns
02-02-2012, 01:20 PM
Disagreeing with jhiz = McFan.

Defendin McDaniels = McFan.

Hating the QB that is winning games for the Broncos = raider fan.

Only being here for Tebow = Florida fan.

This isn't that complicated.

Miss I.
02-02-2012, 01:22 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8ADR9PQE1rs/Td_bdBTXKSI/AAAAAAAADhM/M-dEIhR4qXY/s1600/small_bacon+starry+night.jpg

BroncoBeavis
02-02-2012, 01:31 PM
THIS. Especially the comment about the bomb. I know he was just trying to be funny but its its not

I think there's some kind of continental/cultural race origin rule at play. If you're of European descent, it's fine to make fun of any other European group. Asian humor is borderline but may be more acceptable due to the contiguous Eurasian continental structure. :)

Europeans making fun of Africans or Native Americans however is generally frowned upon.

More leeway is given the other direction, mostly as a "sorry about the slavery/taking all your land" thing. :)

Lestat
02-02-2012, 04:13 PM
oh i can see it now, Smith better draft his ass off next season or Khan is gonna fire his ass with the quickness.
he might just let him hang around because he isn't familiar with NFL business right now but Smith getting canned is almost a forgone conclusion.
Fyi, in case anyone wants to discuss football ITT (lol), here's the most interesting tidbit:



Gene Smith has been the Jags GM since 2009 and the college/pro personnel director before that. He got a 3 year contract extension from Wayne Weaver the same day that Weaver fired Del Rio and sold the team. So basically this is a vote of no confidence from the new owner in Gene Smith's past performance at his occupation.

Cito Pelon
02-02-2012, 05:58 PM
JAX was stupid passing on Tebow. They spent their #10 on Alualu when they could have traded down a couple of times to accumulate picks, get Tebow, and still increase their first day draft picks, and second day draft picks. Too bad for them, they blew it. They had a perfect scenario, and they blew it.

Tombstone RJ
02-02-2012, 06:05 PM
JAX was stupid passing on Tebow. They spent their #10 on Alualu when they could have traded down a couple of times to accumulate picks, get Tebow, and still increase their first day draft picks, and second day draft picks. Too bad for them, they blew it. They had a perfect scenario, and they blew it.

well in their defense they probably never thought TT would be drafted in the first round and I'm thinking they would have jumped on TT in the second round. Oh well, you never can tell right? It only takes one team to value a player more than everyone else for everyone's draft board to go all funny..

HAT
02-02-2012, 06:14 PM
So, if Khan wants to kickoff his ownership in style and calls up EFX to make a deal, what, if anything, would you folks be willing to take? Would a 2nd rounder be enough? 1st rounder? A particular player? Some other combination of picks and/or players? Or is there nothing you would accept?

This years 2nd + 2013 1st

Cito Pelon
02-02-2012, 06:44 PM
well in their defense they probably never thought TT would be drafted in the first round and I'm thinking they would have jumped on TT in the second round. Oh well, you never can tell right? It only takes one team to value a player more than everyone else for everyone's draft board to go all funny..

Well, you can say "in their defense", but I was thinking on draft day when they kept that #10 pick they f'd up. I thought for sure they'd be smart enough to trade down and still get Tebow in round one. Considering they didn't have jacksh*t for QB's on their roster, they should have done the smart thing - trade down and get Tebow. Alualu? You stay at #10 for a DT when you need a QB? And Tebow will be available with a bold move? In Jacksonville?

Tebow should have been their first round target all the way. They blew it.

Archer81
02-02-2012, 06:54 PM
I'm tired of seeing the same draft scenario presented over and over any time an article comes up associated with Jacksonville, Andrew Luck or Tim Tebow.

What if sunlight shot out of flying monkey's peen. Would people wear them around their necks?

...

:Broncos:

Cito Pelon
02-02-2012, 07:10 PM
I'm tired of seeing the same draft scenario presented over and over any time an article comes up associated with Jacksonville, Andrew Luck or Tim Tebow.

What if sunlight shot out of flying monkey's peen. Would people wear them around their necks?

...

:Broncos:

I suppose if the same draft scenario came up associated with JAX, Andrew Luck or Tim Tebow, some kind of monkey peen and neck thing might come to pass. It hasn't, so relax.

Ratboy
02-02-2012, 07:58 PM
This years 2nd + 2013 1st

Tebow
Swap 1st
Broncos 2nd

lonestar
02-02-2012, 08:57 PM
Indeed. There is a very fine line between satirical humor and outright racist humor. I for instance do not actually think all Italians blow things up. My grandma was Italian, but she didn't blow things up, though she did carry a gun. She had the heaviest purse ever. It was like, Stop or my Nona will shoot! :curtsey:

Quote:Lonestar
Originally Posted by Kaylore View Post
I'm glad our owner doesn't look like he makes-a-the-pizza-pie!
Frankly not an Italian, BUT did anyone check under his suit jacket for a bomb?

Sorry that did not come out correctly..

It should have been

Frankly does not look like an Italian to me, BUT did anyone check under his suit jacket for a bomb?

(As in terrorist bomber).

lonestar
02-02-2012, 09:00 PM
JAX was stupid passing on Tebow. They spent their #10 on Alualu when they could have traded down a couple of times to accumulate picks, get Tebow, and still increase their first day draft picks, and second day draft picks. Too bad for them, they blew it. They had a perfect scenario, and they blew it.

For what it is worth had they taken Tebow with their top choice they would have been rewarded with a gazillion new season ticket holders. We all know that Tebow Fans are just that fanatics. Whether he was worth a top 10 pick or not northern Florida would have exploded..Fanatics do not place the same value as seasoned NFL fans do..

KO5K
02-02-2012, 09:13 PM
It's a no brainer.

PFT ranked Alualu, who they took at #10 that year, 86th out of 88 DTs last year.

Then they have Blaine Gabbert who has the passing ability of Tebow but doesn't have the rushing ability or the intangibles. He's also a p***y and you can't teach tough.

Even if Tebow didn't work out for them, they'd be in no worse of a position than they are today.

R8R H8R
02-02-2012, 09:57 PM
If I remember right, didn't Jax trade up to #10 with us to get Alualu? I remember trading back twice in the 1st round to get into the 20's. The second trade was with the Eagles. I want to say the first trade was like 3 spots back with the Jax, but I could be wrong.

Shananahan
02-02-2012, 11:35 PM
they have Blaine Gabbert who has the passing ability of Tebow
I think Tebow's passing abilities are probably more underrated than they deserve to be due to his unconventional style and accuracy/delivery faults, but in my opinion Gabbert has much, much more ability to work with passing the football than Tebow right now. Yeah, he had a rough introduction to the league last season and who knows how he'll pan out, but his basic tools are just much better, I think.

Not that I think he's great or would want him on the team or anything, but I've seen too much of him in college and last season to get carried away.

Cito Pelon
02-02-2012, 11:50 PM
I think Tebow's passing abilities are probably more underrated than they deserve to be due to his unconventional style and accuracy/delivery faults, but in my opinion Gabbert has much, much more ability to work with passing the football than Tebow right now. Yeah, he had a rough introduction to the league last season and who knows how he'll pan out, but his basic tools are just much better, I think.

Not that I think he's great or would want him on the team or anything, but I've seen too much of him in college and last season to get carried away.

Please.

Play2win
02-03-2012, 12:10 AM
This years 2nd + 2013 1st

That would give Dever the ammo to get Matt Barkley in 2013.

extralife
02-03-2012, 12:15 AM
Not to nit-pick, but this guy is technically an American.

not to nit-pick, but who gives a **** where the guy is from?

HUR HUR HE HAS A BOMB GET IT BECAUSE BROWN PEOPLE ARE EVIL HUR HUR I WEAR A BIB WHEN I EAT

BroncoMan4ever
02-03-2012, 12:54 AM
huh? a bit of a douche??

that's like saying the sun is a bit warm, or Madonna is a bit slutty, or Josh McDaniels is a bit evil.

when you root for the team he owns, he seems like the greatest owner in the world, but when you don't cheer for his team he seems like a douche. so averaging out he is a slight douche.

it's all about perspective.

Beantown Bronco
02-03-2012, 07:26 AM
not to nit-pick, but who gives a **** where the guy is from?


Obviously, the poster I was responding to does.

bendog
02-03-2012, 08:36 AM
Steve Jobs outsourced a lot more jobs than Khan did. just sayin.

Powderaddict
02-03-2012, 08:44 AM
Schefter is saying that Denver could possibly get a 2nd and 5th from the Jags for Tebow.

Thoughts?

My opinion is that IF Tebow is going to develop into a decent passer, don't even think about it. If the FO does not believe Tebow can, his value may never be higher.

I don't see the behind the scenes stuff so I don't feel qualified to make a decision like that, but it is tempting. And if the Jags are leaking this through Schefter, possibly they may be willing to go a bit higher (never lead with your best offer).

BroncoBeavis
02-03-2012, 08:49 AM
That would give Dever the ammo to get Matt Barkley in 2013.

Yeah, totally. Trade Tebow and we could totally go 3-13 again and be in prime Bark-Dog territory.

Every REAL fan's dream come true.

Beantown Bronco
02-03-2012, 08:52 AM
Schefter is saying that Denver could possibly get a 2nd and 5th from the Jags for Tebow.

Thoughts?

I'd like to know who Schefter sees them throwing out there at QB if they make that type of trade. Yuck.

BroncoBeavis
02-03-2012, 08:52 AM
Schefter is saying that Denver could possibly get a 2nd and 5th from the Jags for Tebow.

Thoughts?

My opinion is that IF Tebow is going to develop into a decent passer, don't even think about it. If the FO does not believe Tebow can, his value may never be higher.

I don't see the behind the scenes stuff so I don't feel qualified to make a decision like that, but it is tempting. And if the Jags are leaking this through Schefter, possibly they may be willing to go a bit higher (never lead with your best offer).

What the FO believes about Tebow's development is irrelevant. They know who's currently buttering the franchise's bread.

There will be no trade. The Avatar bet still stands. :)

bendog
02-03-2012, 09:00 AM
Elway's not gonna trade him even if he had any desire to do so, and I really don't think EFX want that. But, simply because of club seat sales the guy's untradeable. He's worth several million dollars in 2012 even if he falls on his face. Besides a 2 and 5 aren't enough for a qb. Now you put Jax's 1 and Den's 1 together, you have enough value to get the 3 pick and GriffinIII, but .... not gonna happen even if anyone would really like to see it.

BroncoInferno
02-03-2012, 09:02 AM
I'd like to know who Schefter sees them throwing out there at QB if they make that type of trade. Yuck.

Matt Flynn is the only guy out there with any upside. Of course, if Green Bay franchises him, we'd probably have to turn around and ship the 2nd we got for Tebow to Green Bay (maybe even our 1st). I guess if Garrard is healthy, he could be a decent stop-gap. But then where do we get the QBOTF? Yeah, I don't see it happening.

BroncoBeavis
02-03-2012, 09:09 AM
Matt Flynn is the only guy out there with any upside. Of course, if Green Bay franchises him, we'd probably have to turn around and ship the 2nd we got for Tebow to Green Bay (maybe even our 1st). I guess if Garrard is healthy, he could be a decent stop-gap. But then where do we get the QBOTF? Yeah, I don't see it happening.

Has that been talked about? Seems like Franchising a backup QB would be a VERY expensive proposition.

Powderaddict
02-03-2012, 09:13 AM
Here's the thing (playing a bit of devils advocate), if the team has no faith that Tebow can be a franchise type quality QB, they probably believe that his production could be replaced by a number of free agents, and at least they'd get value for him.

For the record, I'd still like to see Tebow play here next year, and see how he progresses. I'm expecting him to work hard and have significant progress in his passing game.

But again, I'm not the one making the decisions, and I don't see what goes on behind the scenes.

jhns
02-03-2012, 09:18 AM
Here's the thing (playing a bit of devils advocate), if the team has no faith that Tebow can be a franchise type quality QB, they probably believe that his production could be replaced by a number of free agents, and at least they'd get value for him.

For the record, I'd still like to see Tebow play here next year, and see how he progresses. I'm expecting him to work hard and have significant progress in his passing game.

But again, I'm not the one making the decisions, and I don't see what goes on behind the scenes.

They won't get rid of Tebow unless they somehow get Luck or Manning. They would be fired if they got rid of him and didn't win at peast as many games. Fans already saw their last decision at QB almost screw this team. Playing Orton almost took a playoff team to another top five pick. This is the same reason that another QB won't beat Tebow out in camp, even if the other QB looks better.

BroncoBeavis
02-03-2012, 09:19 AM
Here's the thing (playing a bit of devils advocate), if the team has no faith that Tebow can be a franchise type quality QB, they probably believe that his production could be replaced by a number of free agents, and at least they'd get value for him.

For the record, I'd still like to see Tebow play here next year, and see how he progresses. I'm expecting him to work hard and have significant progress in his passing game.

But again, I'm not the one making the decisions, and I don't see what goes on behind the scenes.

I think these guys are smart enough to remember back to starting 1-4 this year. Throw another QB changeover and offensive shakeup into the mix next year, and unless we're talking a 95% healthy Peyton Manning, there's at least a 60% chance they don't sniff the playoffs.

They ship Tebow and that happens? This franchise will start falling apart at the seams. Complete implosion.

Ratboy
02-03-2012, 09:24 AM
Schefter is saying that Denver could possibly get a 2nd and 5th from the Jags for Tebow.

Do it.

BroncoInferno
02-03-2012, 09:25 AM
Has that been talked about? Seems like Franchising a backup QB would be a VERY expensive proposition.

Yeah, it's apparently a realistic option. Don't forget, New England franchised Cassel a few years ago, so it isn't unprecedented.

KO5K
02-03-2012, 09:27 AM
They won't get rid of Tebow unless they somehow get Luck or Manning. They would be fired if they got rid of him and didn't win at peast as many games.

Yeah I agree with this.

If people think EFX could trade Tebow and then get away with another 4 win season with a stop gap/rookie QB, they're sadly mistaken.

Beantown Bronco
02-03-2012, 09:32 AM
Yeah, it's apparently a realistic option. Don't forget, New England franchised Cassel a few years ago, so it isn't unprecedented.

They were only able to do that because they were sure a trade was going to be made a few weeks after tagging him, though. If they went into the season with his extra $15 mil cap hit on the books, it would've crippled them.

BroncoBeavis
02-03-2012, 09:32 AM
Yeah, it's apparently a realistic option. Don't forget, New England franchised Cassel a few years ago, so it isn't unprecedented.

Huh, I didn't remember that for some reason. Assumed he was still under contract I guess.

Ratboy
02-03-2012, 09:33 AM
Yeah I agree with this.

If people think EFX could trade Tebow and then get away with another 4 win season with a stop gap/rookie QB, they're sadly mistaken.

If Tebow is traded (I highly doubt it), they are going to have their ducks in order.

BroncoBeavis
02-03-2012, 09:35 AM
They were only able to do that because they were sure a trade was going to be made a few weeks after tagging him, though. If they went into the season with his extra $15 mil cap hit on the books, it would've crippled them.

That's kind of crap that they can tag a guy just to trade him, just so they can pay him less than he would've earned on the market and keep the difference. Seems like if you tag a guy you should be forced to carry him and his payroll into the next season.

BroncoInferno
02-03-2012, 09:49 AM
They were only able to do that because they were sure a trade was going to be made a few weeks after tagging him, though. If they went into the season with his extra $15 mil cap hit on the books, it would've crippled them.

Sure, but I think it's a given that Green Bay will be able to trade Flynn. A number of teams who are probably out of reach for Luck and RGIII will likely be interested (Miami, Cleveland, Washington off the top of my head).

Dedhed
02-03-2012, 09:50 AM
Matt Flynn is the only guy out there with any upside. Of course, if Green Bay franchises him, we'd probably have to turn around and ship the 2nd we got for Tebow to Green Bay (maybe even our 1st). I guess if Garrard is healthy, he could be a decent stop-gap. But then where do we get the QBOTF? Yeah, I don't see it happening.

Matt Flynn is 2012's Kevin Kolb.

barryr
02-03-2012, 09:55 AM
Only bozos who know very little about football think trading Tebow right now makes sense.

Beantown Bronco
02-03-2012, 09:57 AM
Sure, but I think it's a given that Green Bay will be able to trade Flynn. A number of teams who are probably out of reach for Luck and RGIII will likely be interested (Miami, Cleveland, Washington off the top of my head).

No doubt. As long as their asking price isn't too high. If they get greedy, they could be left holding the bag.

Dedhed
02-03-2012, 09:57 AM
So, if Khan wants to kickoff his ownership in style and calls up EFX to make a deal, what, if anything, would you folks be willing to take? Would a 2nd rounder be enough? 1st rounder? A particular player? Some other combination of picks and/or players? Or is there nothing you would accept?

It would only make sense if we acquired the ammo to get Luck. That would be at least 2012 and 2013 first rounders, and we'd still have to give the Colts our 2012 first rounder as well.

Beantown Bronco
02-03-2012, 09:59 AM
Matt Flynn is 2012's Kevin Kolb.

With even less starting experience. Some team is potentially gambling big time on only two career starts.

broncocalijohn
02-03-2012, 01:35 PM
Only bozos who know very little about football think trading Tebow right now makes sense.

Why? Unless you think Tebow is the best QB in the NFL, there is always some trade that can spike interest and you pull the trigger. Shutting out all incoming trade offers is not what a F.O. should do. Their job is to listen to realistic offers that come across them. I don't think Tebow is untouchable. 25% or less are untouchable IMO.

barryr
02-04-2012, 08:51 AM
Why? Unless you think Tebow is the best QB in the NFL, there is always some trade that can spike interest and you pull the trigger. Shutting out all incoming trade offers is not what a F.O. should do. Their job is to listen to realistic offers that come across them. I don't think Tebow is untouchable. 25% or less are untouchable IMO.

Because the Broncos have no other option at QB, so trading your only option is stupid, especially one that just helped you make the playoffs for the first time in 6 years and even won a playoff game to boot. That is how losing organizations stay losing with idiotic moves like that.

rugbythug
02-04-2012, 09:09 AM
Sure, but I think it's a given that Green Bay will be able to trade Flynn. A number of teams who are probably out of reach for Luck and RGIII will likely be interested (Miami, Cleveland, Washington off the top of my head).

At what cost. Tagging Flynn makes them loose finley not going to happen. Also plays havoc with their salary cap.

rugbythug
02-04-2012, 09:15 AM
Schefter is saying that Denver could possibly get a 2nd and 5th from the Jags for Tebow.

Thoughts?

My opinion is that IF Tebow is going to develop into a decent passer, don't even think about it. If the FO does not believe Tebow can, his value may never be higher.

I don't see the behind the scenes stuff so I don't feel qualified to make a decision like that, but it is tempting. And if the Jags are leaking this through Schefter, possibly they may be willing to go a bit higher (never lead with your best offer).

No way we take less than the Bengals got for washed up palmer.

broncocalijohn
02-04-2012, 09:53 AM
No way we take less than the Bengals got for washed up palmer.

That was a rape and cannot be the selling point for other QBs.

uplink
02-04-2012, 01:57 PM
Behold

The new Jags Logo
.

lonestar
02-04-2012, 02:25 PM
That was a rape and cannot be the selling point for other QBs.

BUT it is a standard that will be used like it or not..

Just like of a bunch of other standards demented Al made..

broncocalijohn
02-04-2012, 03:10 PM
BUT it is a standard that will be used like it or not..

Just like of a bunch of other standards demented Al made..

Prove it! It normally is for a 1st rounder pick in the draft but not for trades. There is way too many variables to say that every former starting QB is worth 2 1st round picks. Orton therefore would be worth two frist rounders and no way that will happen. Raiders had two things going against them; 1) They were desperate during a season and 2) they are dumb as a box of rocks.

rugbythug
02-04-2012, 03:15 PM
No you prove it. Kolb was close to that. Cutler more. Evidence on my side.

bombay
02-04-2012, 03:28 PM
I think these guys are smart enough to remember back to starting 1-4 this year. Throw another QB changeover and offensive shakeup into the mix next year, and unless we're talking a 95% healthy Peyton Manning, there's at least a 60% chance they don't sniff the playoffs.

They ship Tebow and that happens? This franchise will start falling apart at the seams. Complete implosion.

I wonder if they remember finishing 1-4?

R8R H8R
02-04-2012, 03:33 PM
Matt Flynn is 2012's Kevin Kolb.

Agreed, and he may even be 2012's version of Matt Cassell. But that won't stop some team from WAY over paying for him.

R8R H8R
02-04-2012, 03:48 PM
No you prove it. Kolb was close to that. Cutler more. Evidence on my side.

The argument is that the Palmer trade set a new standard of two 1st rounders for a QB(which I don't believe because the raiders are the raiders).

With that being said, the Kolb and Cutler deals were long before the Palmer deal, so their deals are irrelevant for this argument. You'll have to wait until March sometime or later to use evidence in this particular argument.

Momentum
02-04-2012, 04:08 PM
Patiently waiting the trade. :wave:

Momentum
02-04-2012, 04:09 PM
I wonder if they remember finishing 1-4?

Tebow fans cannot process statistics or logic. You know that.

KO5K
02-04-2012, 04:13 PM
I wonder if they remember finishing 1-4?

Two of the losses to the AFC Champions and Superbowl favourites.

The first playoff win in 6 years.

Not really the same is it?

Butterscotch Stallion
02-04-2012, 04:16 PM
Two of the losses to the AFC Champions and Superbowl favourites.

The first playoff win in 6 years.

Not really the same is it?

well Tebow was a seven year vet to be fair. That kind of record would only be excused to a young QB like Orton.



haters can not process reality.

broncocalijohn
02-04-2012, 04:20 PM
The argument is that the Palmer trade set a new standard of two 1st rounders for a QB(which I don't believe because the raiders are the raiders).

With that being said, the Kolb and Cutler deals were long before the Palmer deal, so their deals are irrelevant for this argument. You'll have to wait until March sometime or later to use evidence in this particular argument.

Thank you. Seems Rug jumped the gun on the argument. Cutler was a player and a pick. That pick wasnt a first rounder but a second rounder. Now you would need to decide if Orton's trade equates to Palmer. No way! Palmer's trade was purely based on outside thinking and not much on what players got in the past. I doubt 30 teams needing a QB would have given up 2 first round picks.

rugbythug
02-04-2012, 08:17 PM
Thank you. Seems Rug jumped the gun on the argument. Cutler was a player and a pick. That pick wasnt a first rounder but a second rounder. Now you would need to decide if Orton's trade equates to Palmer. No way! Palmer's trade was purely based on outside thinking and not much on what players got in the past. I doubt 30 teams needing a QB would have given up 2 first round picks.

Cutler was 2 firsts and a 3rd and orton.
Kolb was DRC at( least a 2nd round value) and a 2nd
Palmer was a first and a 2nd the following year. And the first was guaranteed to be in the 20's as Raiders were 7-4 at the time.

Tebows value is higher than Palmer and lower than cutler.

He is younger, and a Current starter for his team.

lonestar
02-04-2012, 09:28 PM
Cutler was 2 firsts and a 3rd and orton.
Kolb was DRC at( least a 2nd round value) and a 2nd
Palmer was a first and a 2nd the following year. And the first was guaranteed to be in the 20's as Raiders were 7-4 at the time.

Tebows value is higher than Palmer and lower than cutler.

He is younger, and a Current starter for his team.

Actually we also gave a 5th back to the bears. But other than that your spot on.

How soon the cutlet lovers forget!

As for Palmer anything that the raiders do is dumb.

I have to agree that they were between rock and hard spot..

But they could have had him for free this year. Was a couple of extra wins worth it?

Had they played their cards right they could have been in the luck competition. And kept their DAFT picks.

But then they have been like monkeys screwing a football on draft day anyway. So just maybe they are a couple of players ahead.

Ahahahahahahahahaha

Missouribronc
02-04-2012, 09:31 PM
Unfortunately, Tebow's trade value is very low, because GMs know that he's not a top passer, And its likely he will never be, and top passers win.

That's reality.

Butterscotch Stallion
02-04-2012, 10:08 PM
Unfortunately, Tebow's trade value is very low, because GMs know that he's not a top passer, And its likely he will never be, and top passers win.

That's reality.

maybe there is a GM out there that values winning?

lonestar
02-04-2012, 11:03 PM
maybe there is a GM out there that values winning?

What the hell who cares about winning?

Several lombardis have been won with not so great QBs.

Even more games have been won with heros at the helm. And wining games with here's fills seats.

Lest anyone forgets even as great as John by was he could not win it without a team, around him and IIRC his passer rating was not on the moon either till he did.

Shananahan
02-05-2012, 12:57 AM
Patiently waiting the trade. :wave:
You'd better get comfortable.

maher_tyler
02-05-2012, 01:07 AM
http://urbanchristiannews.com/ucn/jacksonville-jaguars-OWNER-shahid-khan.jpg

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/n/nintendos_mario-1895.jpg

???

Archer81
02-05-2012, 01:09 AM
Such is fate. He should have bought the team 3 years earlier.

His loss, our gain.

:Broncos:

OrangeSe7en
02-05-2012, 07:50 AM
Sounds like he's speaking from a business perspective and not a football one.

It sounds like he's just trying to win fans over.

It's easy to say this now.