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Boobs McGee
01-14-2012, 10:03 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Broncos-at-Patriots-Fox/60155da3-a54b-46cb-87c9-514f61b03518



Helluva season Broncos, I'm proud of what we accomplished, and can't WAIT for next year! Love Fox's coaching style, and see nothing but good things in our future.


EDIT: Here's Tebow -
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Broncos-at-Patriots-Tebow/04058a0b-5060-41ae-8561-165e03bc8ffb

schaaf
01-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Anyone see Vons comment to Mark Schlereth after the game???

I hate that POS

Agamemnon
01-14-2012, 10:10 PM
What I took from that video: "Well shucks we just aren't as good as that team so what could we do?"

::)

MagicHef
01-14-2012, 10:12 PM
Anyone see Vons comment to Mark Schlereth after the game???

I hate that POS

No. Please expand.

Boobs McGee
01-14-2012, 10:15 PM
What I took from that video: "Well shucks we just aren't as good as that team so what could we do?"

::)

I took it as: "well, we got beat by a pretty damn good team, and right now we're not as good as them. Lots of work to do this offseason, but I'm proud of our guys from trainer to tebow, and the offseason starts right now. "

But, you know, whatever floats your boat

Denver724
01-14-2012, 10:30 PM
I took it as: "well, we got beat by a pretty damn good team, and right now we're not as good as them. Lots of work to do this offseason, but I'm proud of our guys from trainer to tebow, and the offseason starts right now. "

But, you know, whatever floats your boat

His opinion is the whole team sucks (and I guess the coaching staff as well) except Tebow and Tebow would be great if the supporting cast was better. After reading many of his posts I have concluded that he has a "Man Crush" for Timmy.

epicSocialism4tw
01-14-2012, 10:33 PM
http://www.denverbroncos.com/multimedia/videos/Broncos-at-Patriots-Fox/60155da3-a54b-46cb-87c9-514f61b03518



Helluva season Broncos, I'm proud of what we accomplished, and can't WAIT for next year! Love Fox's coaching style, and see nothing but good things in our future.

Absolutely.

Agamemnon
01-14-2012, 10:37 PM
His opinion is the whole team sucks (and I guess the coaching staff as well) except Tebow and Tebow would be great if the supporting cast was better. After reading many of his posts I have concluded that he has a "Man Crush" for Timmy.

Don't put words in my mouth jackass.

I think we have some very good players and some very promising players on this team, and Tebow belongs in the latter much more than the former. We also have some glaring holes obviously, but to me that's not the biggest problem with this team.

The coaching staff is dog****. We basically won in spite of them, not because of them, and I think tonight was the epitome of how utterly outclassed they are in today's NFL when it comes to calling plays, crafting gameplans, and preparing their players.

Boobs McGee
01-14-2012, 10:41 PM
Don't put words in my mouth jackass.

I think we have some very good players and some very promising players on this team, and Tebow belongs in the latter much more than the former. We also have some glaring holes obviously, but to me that's not the biggest problem with this team.

The coaching staff is dog****. We basically won in spite of them, not because of them, and I think tonight was the epitome of how utterly outclassed they are in today's NFL when it comes to calling plays, crafting gameplans, and preparing their players.

My goodness your life must suck. Completely overhauling a team with no offseason, tailoring a new offense midseason with a (magical) rookie at the helm, working with major injuries to key players on both sides of the ball, and you can't even glean the SLIGHTEST bit of optimism.

I truly hope you can enjoy the fact that it's mid January and our team JUST finished playing.

Vine
01-14-2012, 10:45 PM
My goodness your life must suck. Completely overhauling a team with no offseason, tailoring a new offense midseason with a (magical) rookie at the helm, working with major injuries to key players on both sides of the ball, and you can't even glean the SLIGHTEST bit of optimism.

I truly hope you can enjoy the fact that it's mid January and our team JUST finished playing.

Your life must suck worse. Never question authority. You would fit right in China.

sinuous sausage
01-14-2012, 10:48 PM
easily the best I've felt after a season in the last five years

Boobs McGee
01-14-2012, 10:49 PM
Your life must suck worse. Never question authority. You would fit right in China.

Question authority? WE JUST MADE IT TO THE SECOND ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS. If being overly excited about the COMPLETE about face this franchise took in one year means I don't question authority, then yes, China sounds lovely.

Agamemnon
01-14-2012, 10:52 PM
My goodness your life must suck. Completely overhauling a team with no offseason, tailoring a new offense midseason with a (magical) rookie at the helm, working with major injuries to key players on both sides of the ball, and you can't even glean the SLIGHTEST bit of optimism.

I truly hope you can enjoy the fact that it's mid January and our team JUST finished playing.

Sorry, but when I see bad coaching predicated on utterly flawed philosophies, I call it like I see it. We went 8-8 primarily due to the magic created by Tebow (and others), while being coached in a manner that really should have resulted in another 4-12 record (if you doubt me go look at our point differential on the season; we were -81 while 4-12 Cleveland was -89 and 5-11 Washington was -79). I've seen good coaching from Allen, which is more than I can say for the rest, but the truth is none of these guys are particularly good by NFL standards.

I am not optimistic about the future with these jokers, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

sinuous sausage
01-14-2012, 10:54 PM
is anyone gonna get around to Von Miller/Schlereth bit?

Boobs McGee
01-14-2012, 10:57 PM
Sorry, but when I see bad coaching predicated on utterly flawed philosophies, I call it like I see it. We went 8-8 primarily due to the magic created by Tebow (and others), while being coached in a manner that really should have resulted in another 4-12 record (if you doubt me go look at our point differential on the season; we were -81 while 4-12 Cleveland was -89 and 5-11 Washington was -79). I've seen good coaching from Allen, which is more than I can say for the rest, but the truth is none of these guys are particularly good by NFL standards.

I am not optimistic about the future with these jokers, and I'm not going to pretend otherwise.

How can you not see that a man essentially risked his coaching career BANKING on a QB that everyone thought would fail? You don't think there are growing pains involved when completely redesigning your offense? Yes, McCoy was extremely frustrating at times, but again, it's kind of hard NOT to defer to their experience when they spend every waking moment of their lives surrounded by the players. They're all growing together. Coaches, players, executives. In one year...hell, in a third of a year, they figured out a way to jumpstart that progression and make leaps.

I really can't fathom how people aren't willing to give someone a pass after ONE ****ING YEAR. You don't think there is any possibility, that a staff who was willing to overhaul a plan midseason, has the same possibility to tweak that offense in the coming months?

Boobs McGee
01-14-2012, 10:58 PM
is anyone gonna get around to Von Miller/Schlereth bit?

Didn't see it...what happened?

sinuous sausage
01-14-2012, 11:00 PM
Didn't see it...what happened?

that's what I'm asking! The second comment on this thread leads me to believe I missed something

MagicHef
01-14-2012, 11:01 PM
Didn't see it...what happened?

Only schaaf knows, and he's not telling.

ant1999e
01-14-2012, 11:04 PM
Anyone see Vons comment to Mark Schlereth after the game???

I hate that POS

Elaborate...

Rother8
01-14-2012, 11:07 PM
Mark mentioned something about the cheap shot being his first hit and Von responded thanks for the support. Gig'em.

Twitter

Agamemnon
01-14-2012, 11:09 PM
I really can't fathom how people aren't willing to give someone a pass after ONE ****ING YEAR. You don't think there is any possibility, that a staff who was willing to overhaul a plan midseason, has the same possibility to tweak that offense in the coming months?

No because I loathe the philosophies they base their entire coaching style off of. I don't want to watch this **** for another four years, or whatever it ends up being, because I already know how it's going to play out. Well actually I see two possibilities:

1) Tebow improves within their pathetic joke of an offense, but is still hindered by their hyper-conservative style that has no place in today's NFL. We continue to have moderate success (wavering between 8-8 and 10-6 most seasons) that ends in miserable failure in the playoffs over and over again.

2) Tebow fails to improve within their joke of an offense, and we spend the next few years trying to find a franchise QB while running with Jason Campbell-quality QB's. Our record hovers between 4-12 and 6-10 for the next few years until they are replaced.

And what really scares me is the thought that some team that understands Tebow as a QB gives him an offense like what Carolina runs, and we basically end up giving a franchise QB to another team because of **** coaches.

Boobs McGee
01-14-2012, 11:16 PM
No because I loathe the philosophies they base their entire coaching style off of. I don't want to watch this **** for another four years, or whatever it ends up being, because I already know how it's going to play out. Well actually I see two possibilities:

1) Tebow improves within their pathetic joke of an offense, but is still hindered by their hyper-conservative style that has no place in today's NFL. We continue to have moderate success (wavering between 8-8 and 10-6 most seasons) that ends in miserable failure in the playoffs over and over again.

2) Tebow fails to improve within their joke of an offense, and we spend the next few years trying to find a franchise QB while running with Jason Campbell-quality QB's. Our record hovers between 4-12 and 6-10 for the next few years until they are replaced.

And what really scares me is the thought that some team that understands Tebow as a QB gives him an offense like what Carolina runs, and we basically end up giving a franchise QB to another team because of **** coaches.

Well there you have it. Obviously, you can choose to draw your own conclusions from the body of work we've seen. I can see where you're coming from, and while I don't agree, I respect your opinion. The last thing I'm going to say, or rather, suggest...why not try optimism vs pessimism? It's a pretty fun road to look down. It dims the glaring lights of a tough loss, and broadens future horizons.

May a flock of slippery vaginas find their way into your life.

ant1999e
01-14-2012, 11:18 PM
Mark mentioned something about the cheap shot being his first hit and Von responded thanks for the support. Gig'em.

Twitter

If you check out mark's tweets throughout the game he's definitely a Broncos hater. What a POS.

Agamemnon
01-14-2012, 11:23 PM
Well there you have it. Obviously, you can choose to draw your own conclusions from the body of work we've seen. I can see where you're coming from, and while I don't agree, I respect your opinion. The last thing I'm going to say, or rather, suggest...why not try optimism vs pessimism? It's a pretty fun road to look down. It dims the glaring lights of a tough loss, and broadens future horizons.

May a flock of slippery vaginas find their way into your life.

I can't just turn the optimism on like a switch. I seriously dislike this coaching staff as much as I ever disliked McD. I know people are stoked with our unexpected playoff win, but to me it's not all that different from the 8-8 record McD posted his first year (other than the fact that 8-8 actually got us into the playoffs this year).

When you are convinced that your favorite football team is on a course that won't lead anywhere good, you can't just turn on the optimism. All I can say is I hope I'm wrong. I hope Fox and Co. lead us to the promised land. I just don't have any confidence in that happening.

Rolandftw
01-14-2012, 11:25 PM
I think a lot of ex-players feel that to be taken seriously, they can't pick their team to win/must strongly criticize the team. Schlereth is one of those guys.

epicSocialism4tw
01-14-2012, 11:25 PM
If you check out mark's tweets throughout the game he's definitely a Broncos hater. What a POS.

That disappoints me about the comments to Von.

I'm not sure why Stink feels the need to interject himself into Broncos conversations if he does nothing more than troll the fans and players.

Elway needs to set him straight in a public interview.

theAPAOps5
01-15-2012, 12:53 AM
Ever since Stink got booed when ESPN was in town he has been a full on douche. Hope it hurts his crappy green chili.

eddie mac
01-15-2012, 02:02 AM
You know why he's really called Stink. Cos he used to vomit and piss himself every single game.

MileHighMagic
01-15-2012, 04:15 AM
You know why he's really called Stink. Cos he used to vomit and piss himself every single game.

Not much has changed it seems.

go_broncos
01-15-2012, 07:36 AM
Schlereth is an idiot..All Bronco haters lost sleep once Tebow took over.
They might be sleeping well today.

ghostofjosh
01-15-2012, 07:54 AM
to be fair,that was a cheap shot by Von...I meanI was surprised to see him pull that crap,reminded me of the Cheifs Broncos game a while ago..monday night i think, when derrick Thomas went nuts and was throwing cheap shots all around

Circle Orange
01-15-2012, 09:13 AM
What I took from that video: "Well shucks we just aren't as good as that team so what could we do?"

::)

I got the same weird vibe...like they really weren't that upset that they played horribly. Or that they didn't really expect to win at all. Hardly this "competitive attitude" the media kept building up. And now they're all over Tom's flat backside now, kissing and talking about his greatness.

"Well shoot, we're just growing kids. Whut'd ya expect? No big deal." :mullet1:

CO Bronco
01-15-2012, 06:08 PM
Ever since Stink got booed when ESPN was in town he has been a full on douche. Hope it hurts his crappy green chili.

I am a green chili fanatic and have never and will never try or buy his green chili. His right to criticize the Bronco's relentlessly, mine to boycot his personal gain.

Denver724
01-15-2012, 06:36 PM
No because I loathe the philosophies they base their entire coaching style off of. I don't want to watch this **** for another four years, or whatever it ends up being, because I already know how it's going to play out. Well actually I see two possibilities:

1) Tebow improves within their pathetic joke of an offense, but is still hindered by their hyper-conservative style that has no place in today's NFL. We continue to have moderate success (wavering between 8-8 and 10-6 most seasons) that ends in miserable failure in the playoffs over and over again.

2) Tebow fails to improve within their joke of an offense, and we spend the next few years trying to find a franchise QB while running with Jason Campbell-quality QB's. Our record hovers between 4-12 and 6-10 for the next few years until they are replaced.

And what really scares me is the thought that some team that understands Tebow as a QB gives him an offense like what Carolina runs, and we basically end up giving a franchise QB to another team because of **** coaches.

Here's to hoping the Broncos trade Tebow and you go with him.

Tim
01-15-2012, 07:25 PM
to be fair,that was a cheap shot by Von...I meanI was surprised to see him pull that crap,reminded me of the Cheifs Broncos game a while ago..monday night i think, when derrick Thomas went nuts and was throwing cheap shots all around
He was just blocking up field on a punt return, no whistle yet and shouldn't have been flagged. But since nobody was back there to return it yet, it was a little cheap.

cutthemdown
01-15-2012, 07:33 PM
The Broncos doubled their wins, had a pretty good draft that could still get better, made a good trade and signed some FA who helped the team. All in all a great season. The fact they did that with no real offseason is really amazing.

Broncos were absolute trash last yr.

Elway did a bang up job and I am really excited to see what he does this offseason.

Agamemnon
01-15-2012, 07:42 PM
Here's to hoping the Broncos trade Tebow and you go with him.

Having been a Bronco fan longer than Tebow's been alive, probably not going to happen.

Now if only all the idiots like yourself would go root for their rightful team, the Chiefs. Ah but that probably won't happen either unfortunately.

Agamemnon
01-15-2012, 07:44 PM
I got the same weird vibe...like they really weren't that upset that they played horribly. Or that they didn't really expect to win at all. Hardly this "competitive attitude" the media kept building up. And now they're all over Tom's flat backside now, kissing and talking about his greatness.

"Well shoot, we're just growing kids. Whut'd ya expect? No big deal." :mullet1:

Yep. It was pretty obvious to me that he was perfectly okay with the way the game turned out. Disgusting...

cutthemdown
01-15-2012, 07:53 PM
I can't just turn the optimism on like a switch. I seriously dislike this coaching staff as much as I ever disliked McD. I know people are stoked with our unexpected playoff win, but to me it's not all that different from the 8-8 record McD posted his first year (other than the fact that 8-8 actually got us into the playoffs this year).

When you are convinced that your favorite football team is on a course that won't lead anywhere good, you can't just turn on the optimism. All I can say is I hope I'm wrong. I hope Fox and Co. lead us to the promised land. I just don't have any confidence in that happening.

Not sure it will be Fox that leads us to the Superbowl. I do think we got better though. Mostly I am watching to see how Elway builds the team. Fox is a good coach for a young team that didn't play good sound football under McDaniels. The first round pick looked good so that was also a positive.

I agree though this team not a ton better then we were, just a little bit.

We still need at least 3 new starters on defense, probably some interior olineman, rbs, wr the whole shabang.

If the team gets better again next yr then I don't see why we fire fox just yet lol. I mean he didn't even get an offseason to work with his players.

If you answered honestly would you say you are a patient or impatient person? lol

Agamemnon
01-15-2012, 08:11 PM
Not sure it will be Fox that leads us to the Superbowl. I do think we got better though. Mostly I am watching to see how Elway builds the team. Fox is a good coach for a young team that didn't play good sound football under McDaniels. The first round pick looked good so that was also a positive.

I agree though this team not a ton better then we were, just a little bit.

We still need at least 3 new starters on defense, probably some interior olineman, rbs, wr the whole shabang.

If the team gets better again next yr then I don't see why we fire fox just yet lol. I mean he didn't even get an offseason to work with his players.

If you answered honestly would you say you are a patient or impatient person? lol

I don't believe the team showed any real signs of improvement, at least not due to coaching. It simply boiled down to Dumervil being healthy, Miller being great as a rookie, and a clutch QB replacing a completely unclutch QB. That's it. The actual coaching didn't impress me at all, especially offensively. We needed five 4th quarter comebacks to go 8-8. We easily could have gone 3-13 without Tebow's magic and some very timely plays by others.

Coaching is not the reason we improved our record by four wins, and all the Bronco fans who think otherwise are delusional.

maher_tyler
01-15-2012, 08:30 PM
I think a lot of ex-players feel that to be taken seriously, they can't pick their team to win/must strongly criticize the team. Schlereth is one of those guys.

Sharpe and TJ are pretty biased..same with Cohwer with the Steelers.

Dedhed
01-15-2012, 09:14 PM
I don't believe the team showed any real signs of improvement, at least not due to coaching. It simply boiled down to Dumervil being healthy, Miller being great as a rookie, and a clutch QB replacing a completely unclutch QB. That's it. The actual coaching didn't impress me at all, especially offensively. We needed five 4th quarter comebacks to go 8-8. We easily could have gone 3-13 without Tebow's magic and some very timely plays by others.

Coaching is not the reason we improved our record by four wins, and all the Bronco fans who think otherwise are delusional.

Gotta agree with most of this, although I didn't get the feeling that Fox wasn't angry about the win. He took a pretty good shot, by his standards, at the tool who asked about Quinn warming up when Tebow got the wind knocked out of him.

I think what he said about being outmatched was just the honest truth. They were outmatched in personnel, but also completely outmatched in the coaching department as well. Particularly offensively.

I did see improvement in the defensive coaching, but we still have Mays and DJ who looked like school boys out there yesterday.