PDA

View Full Version : Would Romney have been different than Obama?


Blart
01-05-2012, 12:24 AM
Serious question.


Healthcare reform? I think Romney could have passed the same reform - a right-wing idea after all - much more effectively, since Republicans wouldn't have opposed. There'd be no "constitutional" debate about healthcare mandates (especially since the founding fathers supported healthcare mandates!)

Debt ceiling increase? This probably would have gone smoothly, without the credit downgrade, again thanks to no Republican opposition.

End of Iraq war? Perhaps Obama was a little quicker, but Romney did say he wanted the US out of Afghanistan (of course he changed his mind after the Tea Party, but what hasn't he changed his mind on?)

Bailouts? I say Romney would have jumped at the chance to send taxpayer money to his Wall Street buddies, just like Obama. Remember, we had bailouts in the 1930's. Conservative president Herbert Hoover bailed out his Wall Street buddies, to ill effect (FDR won his presidential campaign with attacks against Hoover's crony-capitalist bailouts, and though FDR increased bailouts - he did it in a drastically different way, by bailing out our economy through smaller main street institutions to a much greater effect)

That's all I got. Am I missing something? What would have been different?

epicSocialism4tw
01-05-2012, 01:47 AM
Romney has a different set of pressures. He certainly wouldn't have nominated that wonk Kagan, and wouldn't have turned the political discourse in this country into a bunch of nerdy smack talk.

Bronco_Beerslug
01-05-2012, 03:40 AM
Romney says he will bomb Iran, end of discussion. Right Wingers can't figure out no matter who is in the WH, war mongering chicken hawks will not be elected. The majority of Independents have had enough of the crap.

Blart
01-05-2012, 09:56 AM
Romney says he will bomb Iran, end of discussion. Right Wingers can't figure out no matter who is in the WH, war mongering chicken hawks will not be elected. The majority of Independents have had enough of the crap.

Good point.

I wasn't sure if this was old Romney talking, or the new & improved Romneybot 8.0 Tea Edition, so I googled.

This is Romney in 2007, back when he was slightly more human,

“I don’t anticipate that the kind of strategy we would pursue would be a ground-intensive, change-the-regime, change-the-government type of effort. I think it’s more likely that other military actions would be in the nature of blockade or a bombardment or surgical strikes of one kind or another.”

He makes it sound like bombing Iran is a middle-road compromise. Ugh.

alkemical
01-05-2012, 10:28 AM
http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/MittRomney.jpg

Garcia Bronco
01-05-2012, 10:40 AM
I don't think so. I think it would have been absolutely the same.

Garcia Bronco
01-05-2012, 10:45 AM
Serious question.


Healthcare reform? I think Romney could have passed the same reform - a right-wing idea after all - much more effectively, since Republicans wouldn't have opposed. There'd be no "constitutional" debate about healthcare mandates (especially since the founding fathers supported healthcare mandates!)

Debt ceiling increase? This probably would have gone smoothly, without the credit downgrade, again thanks to no Republican opposition.

End of Iraq war? Perhaps Obama was a little quicker, but Romney did say he wanted the US out of Afghanistan (of course he changed his mind after the Tea Party, but what hasn't he changed his mind on?)

Bailouts? I say Romney would have jumped at the chance to send taxpayer money to his Wall Street buddies, just like Obama. Remember, we had bailouts in the 1930's. Conservative president Herbert Hoover bailed out his Wall Street buddies, to ill effect (FDR won his presidential campaign with attacks against Hoover's crony-capitalist bailouts, and though FDR increased bailouts - he did it in a drastically different way, by bailing out our economy through smaller main street institutions to a much greater effect)

That's all I got. Am I missing something? What would have been different?

The "Wall Street bailout" or rather loan happened before Obama took office. It bailed out any American with a stock account including 401k, a, mutual funds, annuity, and so on. What Obama and the democrats passed was a second stimulus that was roughly 800 billion of whihc roughly 400 million was a taxcut to everyone. The other 400 million went to infrastructure, they tried to funnel a bunch of money to ACORN and other places. It was a terrible bill IMO.