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IdahoBronco7
04-22-2013, 12:45 PM
College stats make me lol.

How's Geno Toretta's HoF induction coming along? Imminent, I suppose, due to all of his brilliant college stats.


His college stats elude to the fact that he's a much better passer than given credit for, that's all. He just needs an organization 100% behind him and he'll do fine, but that may never happen.

Drunk Monkey
04-22-2013, 01:09 PM
His college stats elude to the fact that he's a much better passer than given credit for, that's all. He just needs an organization 100% behind him and he'll do fine, but that may never happen.

He has had ample time and opportunity to demonstrate his QB skills and abilities to a team In both a practice and game setting. So far 2 have seen what he can do and taken a pass.

Why???

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-22-2013, 01:16 PM
His college stats elude to the fact that he's a much better passer than given credit for, that's all. He just needs an organization 100% behind him and he'll do fine, but that may never happen.

I see your makin friends. Ha!

I wouldn't read too much into college stats when talking about NFL development. Colt McCoy has spectacular stats with a 70% completion rate. In the pros it's not even close to that for him. NFL defenses bring it compared to college. It's how you adapt that makes or breaks a player. So far tebow has not adapted and is going down the akhili smith road rather than the kaepernick road.

Jay3
04-22-2013, 01:19 PM
College stats make me lol.

How's Geno Toretta's HoF induction coming along? Imminent, I suppose, due to all of his brilliant college stats.

Toretta's college stats weren't all that great. His Heisman year was one of the most down years on record.

You're supposed to use the Toretta argument for "Heisman doesn't mean good pro." Statistically, he passed for a much lower completion than Tebow, much lower TD passes, and way lower yards per attempt. Statistically, Tebow was more dominant than Johnny Manziell, and followed it up with a national championship.

With Tebow, it's mechanics (including footwork). Coming out of college, they were not conducive to a pro passing attack. So the question has always been whether he can translate his game and improve his mechanics.

It's that simple -- the vast majority of prospects don't translate. They just quietly fall off the map. With Tebow, nothing is quiet.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
04-22-2013, 01:31 PM
Toretta's college stats weren't all that great. His Heisman year was one of the most down years on record.

You're supposed to use the Toretta argument for "Heisman doesn't mean good pro." Statistically, he passed for a much lower completion than Tebow, much lower TD passes, and way lower yards per attempt. Statistically, Tebow was more dominant than Johnny Manziell, and followed it up with a national championship.

With Tebow, it's mechanics (including footwork). Coming out of college, they were not conducive to a pro passing attack. So the question has always been whether he can translate his game and improve his mechanics.

It's that simple -- the vast majority of prospects don't translate. They just quietly fall off the map. With Tebow, nothing is quiet.

DON'T CARRRRRRRRRE.

he sucks. Two teams have seen him, looked at what he can do, and passed. It's that simple, whether we're comparing Heisman players or just college players.

The lesson: college stats mean nothing in the pros.

Jay3
04-22-2013, 01:57 PM
he sucks. Two teams have seen him, looked at what he can do, and passed. It's that simple,

I don't think Denver "passed." They brought in a better QB, one who would have been better than about 5 other QB's in the NFL, give or take.

And the Jets said from day one that Tebow would not be under consideration to supplant Mark Sanchez. When it came down to it, they stuck to their guns.

It's this simple -- he either is, or is not, good enough to play in the NFL. Trying to push it out further than that, and say "_______ means nothing" or "here's a rule that we can apply universally," is fruitless. There's a constant parade of quarterbacks that march through the league, and a very small percentage display something that makes them an enduring player.

BroncosfanGuy
04-22-2013, 02:15 PM
His college stats elude
are you saying he's shifty too?

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-22-2013, 02:26 PM
I don't think Denver "passed." They brought in a better QB, one who would have been better than about 5 other QB's in the NFL, give or take.
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If manning wasn't acquired it wouldve been someone else. Elway would've still made the change.

razorwire77
04-22-2013, 02:29 PM
I see your makin friends. Ha!

I wouldn't read too much into college stats when talking about NFL development. Colt McCoy has spectacular stats with a 70% completion rate. In the pros it's not even close to that for him. NFL defenses bring it compared to college. It's how you adapt that makes or breaks a player. So far tebow has not adapted and is going down the akhili smith road rather than the kaepernick road.

Andre Ware
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Timmy Chang
and David Klinger say Hello!

2KBack
04-22-2013, 02:48 PM
Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......most....the word most. Not exceptions.

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BroncoBeavis
04-22-2013, 04:01 PM
Andre Ware
Colt Brennan
Timmy Chang
and David Klinger say Hello!

Come now. You're comparing a bunch of system C-Leaguers to a two-time SEC champion (a conference that has still yet to ever lose a BCS Championship game) and two-time National champion.

Might as well be comparing NFL to Arena stats if you're willing to go that far.

Timmy's game may not translate to the NFL at the end of the day. But it's not over yet. And he still hasn't received a level shot.

broncosteven
04-22-2013, 04:25 PM
Come now. You're comparing a bunch of system C-Leaguers to a two-time SEC champion (a conference that has still yet to ever lose a BCS Championship game) and two-time National champion.

Might as well be comparing NFL to Arena stats if you're willing to go that far.

Timmy's game may not translate to the NFL at the end of the day. But it's not over yet. And he still hasn't received a level shot.

He has gotten a better shot than any other QB who couldn't win the starting job out of TC.

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04-22-2013, 10:25 PM
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Damn boy, you spent a lot of time and effort to produce 5 or 6 exceptions, which still don't even come close to "MOST".

IdahoBronco7
04-22-2013, 10:35 PM
are you saying he's shifty too?


Ah geez man, don't be a weasel. Now you're just being a plain dumbazz.

IdahoBronco7
04-22-2013, 10:40 PM
I don't think Denver "passed." They brought in a better QB, one who would have been better than about 5 other QB's in the NFL, give or take.

And the Jets said from day one that Tebow would not be under consideration to supplant Mark Sanchez. When it came down to it, they stuck to their guns.

It's this simple -- he either is, or is not, good enough to play in the NFL. Trying to push it out further than that, and say "_______ means nothing" or "here's a rule that we can apply universally," is fruitless. There's a constant parade of quarterbacks that march through the league, and a very small percentage display something that makes them an enduring player.

So Peyton is like the 6th worst QB in the NFL. LMFAOROTF:rofl::rofl::rofl:

DBroncos4life
04-22-2013, 10:41 PM
Another hopeless Teblow fan trying to change the flow of the oceans. I've got your tide hanging..

IdahoBronco7
04-23-2013, 07:29 AM
Another hopeless Teblow fan trying to change the flow of the oceans. I've got your tide hanging..

I got your bacon hangin', bacon. The only thing you got hangin' is stopping that ocean of flow.........or we could just all get along.

And no I'm not a hopeless Timmy fan, but you all over analyzing and dissing on him is bull. He did nothing but positive for the Broncos.

Jay3
04-23-2013, 07:37 AM
So Peyton is like the 6th worst QB in the NFL. LMFAOROTF:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Meant to say better than "all but" 5 other QB's.

Even that's debatable -- didn't have a specific 5 in mind, he might be higher. Just a fuzzy, age-adjusted math.

CEH
04-23-2013, 07:37 AM
At least this thread and the same old tireless arguments defending Timmy Try Hard are isolated to one thread.

Boo who Tim needs a shot. Well guess what the NFL is moving to the pop gun offenses right?

No reason now not to shine under his natural offense right?

Can't say team haven't committed to this offense right ? Seattle, SF, Washing? right?

TheElusiveKyleOrton
04-23-2013, 08:11 AM
And no I'm not a hopeless Timmy fan,

As evidenced by your jihad on anyone who might question whether or not he can perform at the NFL level as a quarterback.

Got it.

Requiem
04-23-2013, 08:19 AM
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IdahoBronco7
04-23-2013, 08:27 AM
IdahoBronco7 has been banned from the Internet.

Who's internet ?

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 08:30 AM
As evidenced by your jihad on anyone who might question whether or not he can perform at the NFL level as a quarterback.

Got it.

We questioned that for going on 3 seasons with Captain ****shispants. Timmy got 11 games to try to rescue another one of his failed seasons. And he went 7-4 and beat the defending AFC champs in the playoffs.

I don't mind a guy questioning whether Tim can make it or not. But this "He got his shot!" crap from people who otherwise had popcorn on standby to watch season 3 of the Neckbeard Chronicles is pretty redicules guy.

Tombstone RJ
04-23-2013, 08:48 AM
The problem is TT didn't get better, that is, he was not a better QB at the end of the season. I know what the TT defenders will say "it was that asshat McCoy's fault for hamstringing Captain America!" WRONG.

Just stop already.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-23-2013, 08:55 AM
I don't mind a guy questioning whether Tim can make it or not. But this "He got his shot!" crap from people who otherwise had popcorn on standby to watch season 3 of the Neckbeard Chronicles is pretty redicules guy.


Maybe if he beat out neckbeard in TC and practice he wouldve had a longer shot. Or beat out the 2 clowns passing in NY. So what your saying is give him a shot, and make sure no competition is around to win the position?

IdahoBronco7
04-23-2013, 09:19 AM
Maybe if he beat out neckbeard in TC and practice he wouldve had a longer shot. Or beat out the 2 clowns passing in NY. So what your saying is give him a shot, and make sure no competition is around to win the position?

Ya, it is disheartening that he can't beat out Sanchez in practice. But on the field during a real game at least he wouldn't be tackled by a butt. He more of a gamer, not a practicer.

DENVERDUI55
04-23-2013, 09:34 AM
I know the teblowers like to throw his record out there during that one miraculous run w years ago. To anyone with at least poor eyesite and only half of a functioning brain it was easy to see Denver was winning despite poor QB play in the passing department.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
04-23-2013, 09:45 AM
Ya, it is disheartening that he can't beat out Sanchez in practice. But on the field during a real game at least he wouldn't be tackled by a butt. He more of a gamer, not a practicer.

Ahhh, the old "practice is meaningless" chestnut. My favorite.

You realize that for every single player on the field, the reason they're able to break through in the first place is that they perform in practice, right? That goes for every position. If you don't beat the guy you're up against IN PRACTICE, you're not going to see the field.

Maybe instead of talking about how he's such a gamer, he should work on his practice habits so he doesn't completely embarrass himself every time he's out there.

Or you can keep talking about what a "gamer" the guy who can't get into the game is.

TheElusiveKyleOrton
04-23-2013, 09:48 AM
We questioned that for going on 3 seasons with Captain ****shispants. Timmy got 11 games to try to rescue another one of his failed seasons. And he went 7-4 and beat the defending AFC champs in the playoffs.

I don't mind a guy questioning whether Tim can make it or not. But this "He got his shot!" crap from people who otherwise had popcorn on standby to watch season 3 of the Neckbeard Chronicles is pretty redicules guy.

You realize that he couldn't beat out Captain ****shispants in training camp too, don't you precious?

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 10:48 AM
Maybe if he beat out neckbeard in TC and practice he wouldve had a longer shot. Or beat out the 2 clowns passing in NY. So what your saying is give him a shot, and make sure no competition is around to win the position?

Entrenched starters have a large preseason advantage. If you disagree, please tell me all the times prior-season's starters got replaced through one of these NFL Camp Champ Survivor matches you say is the way the NFL does business.

Meanwhile, we'll also have to assume the NFL Camp Champ Factor also meant...

Smith > Kaepernick
Bledsoe > Brady
Green > Warner
Majkowski > Favre
Flutie > Brees

Most young QB's get their chance by way of midseason circumstance. Camp Champ is a meaningless distinction.

Tombstone RJ
04-23-2013, 10:55 AM
Entrenched starters have a large preseason advantage. If you disagree, please tell me all the times prior-season's starters got replaced through one of these NFL Camp Champ Survivor matches you say is the way the NFL does business.

Meanwhile, we'll also have to assume the NFL Camp Champ Factor also meant...

Smith > Kaepernick
Bledsoe > Brady
Green > Warner
Majkowski > Favre
Flutie > Brees

Most young QB's get their chance by way of midseason circumstance. Camp Champ is a meaningless distinction.

lol, TT can't pass the ball, that's the difference. You keep going in these circles but this fact remains--TT is a lousy passer with lousy mechanics and he refuses to take the necessary steps to correct these issues. You really have to be dense to compare TT Brees or Brady. He's not even as well rounded as Kaepernick.

Again and again and again and again and again we've hashed this stuff out. IF TT could throw the ball even marginally effectively then he would do that--in practice--and the Jets would have a reason to bench Sanchize. But TT can't. This is TT's problem.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 10:55 AM
I know the teblowers like to throw his record out there during that one miraculous run w years ago. To anyone with at least poor eyesite and only half of a functioning brain it was easy to see Denver was winning despite poor QB play in the passing department.

Funny, cuz I can go back to '11 and see all the Ragin' Ortboners saying "if only Orton had a real O Line and a Defense!"

Then suddenly Timmy starts winning the games Kyle lost and it becomes all about what a talented team he had around him.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 11:05 AM
lol, TT can't pass the ball, that's the difference. You keep going in these circles but this fact remains--TT is a lousy passer with lousy mechanics and he refuses to take the necessary steps to correct these issues. You really have to be dense to compare TT Brees or Brady. He's not even as well rounded as Kaepernick.

This is a strawman. Nobody's comparing them as quarterbacks. It's just plain as day to anyone with a brain that training camp does little to prove which QB is better. 9 times out of 10, the starter is known by the coaching staff going into camp. He gets most the reps. Only way he loses the job in camp is if he completely screws the pooch.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-23-2013, 11:42 AM
Then suddenly Timmy starts winning the games Kyle lost and it becomes all about what a talented team he had around him.

Hard to believe the QB is the reason they win a game when that QB completes only 2 passes.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 11:57 AM
Hard to believe the QB is the reason they win a game when that QB completes only 2 passes.

Might want to try more than 3 or so per half.

And in the meantime, he made us the top rushing team in the league. There was no path to victory for this team with KO. Many of these kids still resent that fact made plain.

OBF1
04-23-2013, 12:04 PM
I can not believe you idiots are still talking about Tebow. You are aware he is no longer a Denver Bronco right? Has not been for over a year.

It is way past time to move on and get over it... No one's dick is bigger because you have a better case/argument on why Tim Tebow was good or bad for the team.

Internet fighting = Special Olympics, Even if you win, In the end you are still retarded.

Drunk Monkey
04-23-2013, 12:07 PM
Might want to try more than 3 or so per half.

And in the meantime, he made us the top rushing team in the league. There was no path to victory for this team with KO. Many of these kids still resent that fact made plain.

What is it with you and Orton? You keep trying to make this Timmy vs Orton. Damm near everyone on this board hated Orton with a passion. We had 0 good options at QB in 2011.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-23-2013, 12:08 PM
Might want to try more than 3 or so per half.

And in the meantime, he made us the top rushing team in the league. There was no path to victory for this team with KO. Many of these kids still resent that fact made plain.

I have the understanding that the team actually got better as the season went on. A new FO/HC in a lockout offseason is a recipe for a bad start no matter who's the QB. Every QB on that roster blew.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 12:13 PM
I have the understanding that the team actually got better as the season went on. A new FO/HC in a lockout offseason is a recipe for a bad start no matter who's the QB. Every QB on that roster blew.

Heh. "Timmy got his chance" followed up with "The FO just needed more time!"

You do realize Timmy was locked out as well.

Tombstone RJ
04-23-2013, 12:19 PM
This is a strawman. Nobody's comparing them as quarterbacks. It's just plain as day to anyone with a brain that training camp does little to prove which QB is better. 9 times out of 10, the starter is known by the coaching staff going into camp. He gets most the reps. Only way he loses the job in camp is if he completely screws the pooch.

You're the one who made the comparison between TT's situation and Brees, Brady and Favre and my point is all of those QBs could do one very important thing that TT can't, pass the ball.

TT has been to 4 training camps and he has never managed to impress anyone enough to elevate him above the starter. I think if TT would have shown the jets anything remotely close to being a decent passer they would have given him a shot. The Broncos did give TT a shot but not because TT impressed in practice but because the Broncos had nothing to lose by starting TT. The Broncos tried starting TT in the Fox/McCoy offense and he failed so they went spread option and the Broncos managed to squeak out some wins. But don't kid yourself, the Broncos got pretty darn lucky in those wins too and sometimes its better to be lucky than be good.

The Broncos team obviously had some talent too, which helped them win games. It wasn't like TT was the only player on the team with any talent, he had weapons. The offensive line alone did a great job all things considered. But the TT fans want to blame McCoy, they want to claim TT had no talent to work with, they want to say that TT carried the team on his back when the reality was that for 98% of the game the Broncos couldn't score with TT and then with a few white knuckle plays the Broncos pulled out some incredible wins.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-23-2013, 12:23 PM
Heh. "Timmy got his chance" followed up with "The FO just needed more time!"

You do realize Timmy was locked out as well.

Difference is my version of a chance isn't 5 years. He got worse as that season went on. If he was great he would be on the field plain and simple. No sabatoge theories. I watched enough of him to be clear that he doesn't have what it takes to be a starter. Those jets preseason games were brutal to watch. Had he been great in those games and camp? Sanchez likely sits.

Blart
04-23-2013, 12:47 PM
I haven't read all 45 pages, but do we all agree that Tebow is an idiot for choosing NYJ over JAX?

Drunk Monkey
04-23-2013, 12:50 PM
I haven't read all 45 pages, but do we all agree that Tebow is an idiot for choosing NYJ over JAX?

Of course we don't all agree. There are still some that say he had no choice. That Elway deliberately sent him to NY just to screw him.

Eldorado
04-23-2013, 01:08 PM
I haven't read all 45 pages, but do we all agree that Tebow is an idiot?

Yes, and FYP.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 01:14 PM
The Broncos team obviously had some talent too, which helped them win games. It wasn't like TT was the only player on the team with any talent, he had weapons. The offensive line alone did a great job all things considered.

I can quote you guys right here in this very thread who were calling that same O-Line garbage during KO's last few games. If they improved, Tim's run threat deserves at least some of the credit.

But my point here isn't really to rehash every argument we've had over the 2 years since. The fact of the matter remains that some of the most vocal Tebow bashers (even to this day) were some of the loudest KO excuse makers only a few games earlier in that 2011 season.

And they went from arguing that Kyle wasn't given the tools to succeed, straight to how Timmy was given every opportunity. If you went into year 3 thinking of KO as the best option coming out of the 2nd worst record in football, you've lost any credibility to ever criticize anyone on the topic of QB talent ever again.

Tebow may not have been THE answer. But he sure as hell was a better one.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 01:16 PM
I haven't read all 45 pages, but do we all agree that Tebow is an idiot for choosing NYJ over JAX?

Yeah. He effed up there. I honestly think he might've been trying to avoid the fan circus that his hometown would mean. But that circus is universal. Which is why teams will hesitate to take any chances on him.

Rabb
04-23-2013, 01:17 PM
Yeah. He effed up there. I honestly think he might've been trying to avoid the fan circus that his hometown would mean. But that circus is universal. Which is why teams will hesitate to take any chances on him.

So he decided to avoid a circus, by choosing the largest media market possible?

Solid, solid work.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 01:24 PM
So he decided to avoid a circus, by choosing the largest media market possible?

Solid, solid work.

When it comes to Tebowmania, Jacksonville Florida is the world's largest media market.

Jay3
04-23-2013, 01:51 PM
I haven't read all 45 pages, but do we all agree that Tebow is an idiot for choosing NYJ over JAX?

With the benefit of hindsight, maybe -- but I consider JAX an NFL death sentence. I always credited Tebow for having the sense to know his hometown franchise was a complete bunghole of an organization.

BroncoInferno
04-23-2013, 01:53 PM
Yeah. He effed up there. I honestly think he might've been trying to avoid the fan circus that his hometown would mean. But that circus is universal. Which is why teams will hesitate to take any chances on him.

I don't agree. Tebow chose NYJ because, ostensibly, it was the football people (Tannebaum, et al) who wanted him. In Jacksonville, the football people did not want him but were having him forced on them by Khan. I don't see how going to a situation where you know in advance the coaching staff does not want you would been a better situation.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 02:07 PM
I don't agree. Tebow chose NYJ because, ostensibly, it was the football people (Tannebaum, et al) who wanted him. In Jacksonville, the football people did not want him but were having him forced on them by Khan. I don't see how going to a situation where you know in advance the coaching staff does not want you would been a better situation.

You're right in that if the staff made it clear in Jville that he was their guy, he would've gone there. I think he knew what a zoo it was going to be though, having a staff who wasn't onboard in a town that would be screaming for Tim from the first huddle.

OTOH, he should've seen that the Jets had just finished handcuffing themselves to a turd QB with maybe the worst NFL contract of the century.

Neither situation was all that great. But in hindsight he should've erred on the side of the one that guaranteed him some field time.

BroncoInferno
04-23-2013, 02:19 PM
You're right in that if the staff made it clear in Jville that he was their guy, he would've gone there. I think he knew what a zoo it was going to be though, having a staff who wasn't onboard in a town that would be screaming for Tim from the first huddle.

OTOH, he should've seen that the Jets had just finished handcuffing themselves to a turd QB with maybe the worst NFL contract of the century.

Neither situation was all that great. But in hindsight he should've erred on the side of the one that guaranteed him some field time.

But that's what he did. NY supposedly had this grand plan in place to use Tebow in Wildcat packages. Jacksonville, to my knowledge, had no such plan in place. Of course, we see now that he was sold of bill of goods, but at the time it made perfect sense to go where the football people want you and are promising you playing time. I'm not sure he was anymore likely to start in Jacksonville than in NY given that the football folks did not want him on the team to begin with. I suppose the fans may have forced their hand eventually, but do you want to go to a team where your chances to start hinge entirely on public pressure rather than faith from the coaching staff? Ultimately, he didn't get that faith in NY either, but it's easy to see why he thought he would at the time.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-23-2013, 02:44 PM
I've never heard of a player like tebow getting guaranteed playing time. That's absolutey insane. Playing time is based on a players skills and the ability to play the game.

Tombstone RJ
04-23-2013, 03:01 PM
I can quote you guys right here in this very thread who were calling that same O-Line garbage during KO's last few games. If they improved, Tim's run threat deserves at least some of the credit.

But my point here isn't really to rehash every argument we've had over the 2 years since. The fact of the matter remains that some of the most vocal Tebow bashers (even to this day) were some of the loudest KO excuse makers only a few games earlier in that 2011 season.

And they went from arguing that Kyle wasn't given the tools to succeed, straight to how Timmy was given every opportunity. If you went into year 3 thinking of KO as the best option coming out of the 2nd worst record in football, you've lost any credibility to ever criticize anyone on the topic of QB talent ever again.

Tebow may not have been THE answer. But he sure as hell was a better one.

That wasn't me. Regardless of why you keep posting this stuff, who cares about Orton? TT was a breath of fresh air compared to the stank of Orton, no one denys this.

DBroncos4life
04-23-2013, 03:09 PM
That wasn't me. Regardless of why you keep posting this stuff, who cares about Orton? TT was a breath of fresh air compared to the stank of Orton, no one denys this.


Teblow fans also said that Manning would get killed playing with our OL. Hell one of them lost a bet to me about who would play more games Manning or Teblow. :giggle: Most of us said our OL and WRs sucked because of Orton and Teblow. It's not hard to figure out that neither Orton or Tebow are starting NFL QBs.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 03:15 PM
I suppose the fans may have forced their hand eventually, but do you want to go to a team where your chances to start hinge entirely on public pressure rather than faith from the coaching staff? Ultimately, he didn't get that faith in NY either, but it's easy to see why he thought he would at the time.

I think you pretty much just repeated most of what I said about why Tim went to New York.

peacepipe
04-23-2013, 03:17 PM
So basically he chose NY,for the platform it would have given him.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 03:19 PM
I've never heard of a player like tebow getting guaranteed playing time. That's absolutey insane. Playing time is based on a players skills and the ability to play the game.

It's just reality. There is a 0% chance the Jags start 1-9 last year and don't give Tim a starting shot at some point. It would have happened. There's no argument here.

BroncoInferno
04-23-2013, 03:21 PM
I think you pretty much just repeated most of what I said about why Tim went to New York.

My point is that given the info he had at the time, NY was the right call.

Drunken.Broncoholic
04-23-2013, 03:25 PM
It's just reality. There is a 0% chance the Jags start 1-9 last year and don't give Tim a starting shot at some point. It would have happened. There's no argument here.

He was on a team where the starting QB sucked ass and ran into ass mind you. The "third" stringer then saw field time. Stranger things have happened. Just cause its 1-9 doesn't guarantee playing time. If he's throwing it in the dirt every practice he's not seeing the field.

BroncoBeavis
04-23-2013, 04:10 PM
My point is that given the info he had at the time, NY was the right call.

Except that the Jests owed Dirty $20+ million GUARANTEED going into last season. They literally couldn't afford to destroy his career with any kind of Tebow spark.

errand
04-23-2013, 06:04 PM
He did nothing but positive for the Broncos.


I still maintain he'd probably would still be a Bronco had his "fans" not been a bunch of clowns who created a circus atmosphere.

GreatBronco16
04-23-2013, 06:11 PM
I still maintain he'd probably would still be a Bronco had his "fans" not been a bunch of clowns who created a circus atmosphere.

That circus atmosphere was mostly due to the media. Mainly ESPin. Yeah there were some Tebow crazies out there, but Tebow is not here because he just can't play QB in the NFL plain and simple.

Blueflame
04-24-2013, 03:22 PM
Entrenched starters have a large preseason advantage. If you disagree, please tell me all the times prior-season's starters got replaced through one of these NFL Camp Champ Survivor matches you say is the way the NFL does business.

Meanwhile, we'll also have to assume the NFL Camp Champ Factor also meant...

Smith > Kaepernick
Bledsoe > Brady
Green > Warner
Majkowski > Favre
Flutie > Brees

Most young QB's get their chance by way of midseason circumstance. Camp Champ is a meaningless distinction.

Going into training camp last year, the consensus of opinion was that Flynn would be the Seattle Seahawks' starting QB. But Russell Wilson showed a spark in preseason and took the starting job from him. It does happen.

broncosteven
04-24-2013, 03:53 PM
That circus atmosphere was mostly due to the media. Mainly ESPin. Yeah there were some Tebow crazies out there, but Tebow is not here because he just can't play QB in the NFL plain and simple.

So ESPN was behind the "Start Tebow" Billboard and sent all those Gator fans to TC?

Sure once he started winning ESPN went 30 minutes without a break covering the guy but once he disappeared so has his coverage over there. It is Fox sports that keeps posting stupid Tebow articles trying to keep his name alive in the media.

BroncoBeavis
04-24-2013, 04:34 PM
Going into training camp last year, the consensus of opinion was that Flynn would be the Seattle Seahawks' starting QB. But Russell Wilson showed a spark in preseason and took the starting job from him. It does happen.

I thought about that example. But both guys were entirely new to the team and the coach last year (and basically to starting in the NFL)

Blueflame
04-24-2013, 05:07 PM
I thought about that example. But both guys were entirely new to the team and the coach last year (and basically to starting in the NFL)

Wilson was impressive right from his very first preseason game, though. Moreso than Flynn was. It wasn't surprising at all that he won the starting job.

Point is, though... he scaled the depth chart based on training camp and preseason games. Had he sucked in practice, Flynn would have remained penciled in as the starter.

Expectations were not high (at all) for Russell Wilson... but his performance far exceeded expectations. Tebow, on the other hand, was deemed (by coaches) to be in need of far more work than they'd anticipated. Wilson's readiness for the NFL was a pleasant surprise for his coaches; Tebow's... not so much (going into his 4th season, he's still nowhere near ready to be a starter).

maven
04-27-2013, 08:35 AM
Jets now have 6 QB's on the roster.

They sure do like a circus.

:rofl:

broncosteven
04-27-2013, 12:23 PM
Can the jets make a trade to the Argonauts? Maybe a water boy for Timmy?

peacepipe
04-29-2013, 06:03 AM
Jets release tebow.

Drunk Monkey
04-29-2013, 06:07 AM
Wow, who saw that coming.

bronco militia
04-29-2013, 07:52 AM
tebow sucks again

broncosteven
04-29-2013, 11:25 AM
I think the Tebow fans should use what ever is left in the kitty from the "Start Tebow" billboard to get him one saying something along the lines of "thanks for your 3 year career" or "Best of luck in Canada"

That billboard incident really got stuck in my craw.

bronco militia
04-29-2013, 11:29 AM
watching Kyle Orton play QB really stuck in my craw.

broncosteven
04-29-2013, 11:38 AM
watching Kyle Orton play QB really stuck in my craw.

True,

TheElusiveKyleOrton
04-29-2013, 11:47 AM
Watching Kyle Orton and the Chiefs beat Tebow and Denver 7-3 at Mile High with playoffs on the line really stuck in my craw.

Drunk Monkey
05-31-2013, 01:38 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/31/report-tebows-camp-is-privately-admitting-hes-done-in-the-nfl/


The news around Tim Tebow (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5096/tim-tebow) has been quiet since he was cut by the Jets, but it’s been widely assumed that Tebow is still hoping to catch on with some NFL team. The people advising Tebow, however, may have come to the conclusion that there simply isn’t an NFL team willing to give him a shot.


In other news

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/70613/we-ve-landed-on-the-moon-o.gif

DBroncos4life
05-31-2013, 02:16 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/31/report-tebows-camp-is-privately-admitting-hes-done-in-the-nfl/


The news around Tim Tebow (http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5096/tim-tebow) has been quiet since he was cut by the Jets, but it’s been widely assumed that Tebow is still hoping to catch on with some NFL team. The people advising Tebow, however, may have come to the conclusion that there simply isn’t an NFL team willing to give him a shot.


In other news

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/70613/we-ve-landed-on-the-moon-o.gif
Tim Tebow - QB - Free AgentAccording to ESPN The Magazine, members of free agent Tim Tebow's camp "privately admit" Tebow's NFL career is likely over.Just 18 months removed from a stunning playoff win over the Steelers, Tebow has been written off by NFL teams in large part due to his unwillingness to change positions. "He's not a quarterback," said one NFC scout. "When you look at his run two years ago, when you watch the tape and break it down, he wasn't really doing anything that impressive. He's a tough guy, a great leader, a great person. But he isn't a good enough quarterback to have all the distractions that come with him." And that just about sums it up.

broncocalijohn
05-31-2013, 02:21 PM
Tim Tebow - QB - Free AgentAccording to ESPN The Magazine, members of free agent Tim Tebow's camp "privately admit" Tebow's NFL career is likely over.Just 18 months removed from a stunning playoff win over the Steelers, Tebow has been written off by NFL teams in large part due to his unwillingness to change positions. "He's not a quarterback," said one NFC scout. "When you look at his run two years ago, when you watch the tape and break it down, he wasn't really doing anything that impressive. He's a tough guy, a great leader, a great person. But he isn't a good enough quarterback to have all the distractions that come with him." And that just about sums it up.

I wonder if his ego can handle switching positions. Time will tell but it mus tbe tough to win a huge playoff game and then not even be wanted 18 months later. Even a team in your college backyard that struggles to sell tickets doesn't want you around must be a huge hint to all but Tebow himself. Play arena league for Philly or get another position.

DBroncos4life
05-31-2013, 02:30 PM
I wonder if his ego can handle switching positions. Time will tell but it mus tbe tough to win a huge playoff game and then not even be wanted 18 months later. Even a team in your college backyard that struggles to sell tickets doesn't want you around must be a huge hint to all but Tebow himself. Play arena league for Philly or get another position.

He needs to get his ass on a CFL team and keep throwing. He isn't going to get reps in the NFL. It's foolish for him to sit out football all together.

Drunken.Broncoholic
05-31-2013, 02:39 PM
When your own camp is waving the flag it's pretty much time to move on from being a QB in the NFL. All these teams have said no. Some politely. Others like Belichick bluntly. He "hates" him as a player. Ha!

It's time for the other league tebow.

DenverDynamite
05-31-2013, 02:46 PM
The Arena League needs Timmy and Timmy needs the Arena League.

peacepipe
05-31-2013, 03:07 PM
He needs to get his ass on a CFL team and keep throwing. He isn't going to get reps in the NFL. It's foolish for him to sit out football all together.

Unfortunately, throwing the football isn't his only problem.

elsid13
05-31-2013, 03:19 PM
He needs to get his ass on a CFL team and keep throwing. He isn't going to get reps in the NFL. It's foolish for him to sit out football all together.

Evidently Montreal CFL has offer out to him. But would be back-up QB spot only.

Got that one wrong

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/30/sports/la-sp-sn-tim-tebow-cfl-20130430

Turns out that might not be much of an option either. The Montreal Alouettes own Tebow's exclusive CFL negotiating rights, and their general manager seems to be in no hurry to make room on his roster for the popular American quarterback.

“We have quarterbacks under contract,” Jim Popp told the Montreal Gazette. “We’re going to camp in a month. We’ve got a starting quarterback. I’m not out there enticing or trying to convince [Tebow] to come to Montreal because he’s [not] going to be a starting quarterback. He would be coming to Montreal to be a backup player ... to learn the game and, maybe, in the future, he’ll be able to compete for a starting job.”

Bob's your Information Minister
05-31-2013, 03:44 PM
Among the problems NFL teams have identified about Tebow, according to the report, are that he has a hard time remembering plays, he didn’t run the offense well and got the Broncos flagged for delay of game too often, he struggled to read defenses and he didn’t have the self-awareness to know what he wasn’t doing well and work on improving those issues.

This guy is a ****ing mental midget. LMAO

That's why he loves jesus sooooooo much

peacepipe
05-31-2013, 04:28 PM
This guy is a ****ing mental midget. LMAO

That's why he loves jesus sooooooo much
LOL

Bob's your Information Minister
05-31-2013, 05:04 PM
tebow doesn't know that he sucks, therefore he can't improve

it's hilarious

errand
05-31-2013, 07:06 PM
This guy is a ****ing mental midget. LMAO

That's why he loves jesus sooooooo much

What does his being a Christian have to do with his alleged lack of intelligence? I mean seriously, a KC fan questioning someone else's intelligence?

Tim bets you Jesus will come back before the Chiefs even play in another SB...let alone win one.

errand
05-31-2013, 07:07 PM
tebow doesn't know that he sucks, therefore he can't improve

it's hilarious

and you still think the Chiefs are a decent team.....advantage Tebow.

errand
05-31-2013, 07:11 PM
LOL

You're just a douche to laugh at that weak sauce this other douche from KC posted....

You want to criticize Tebow for his lack of throwing prowess, or reading defense I'm right there with you.....but to trash his faith in God is just plain ignorant.

oubronco
05-31-2013, 07:41 PM
http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/grandpa-simpson-gif.gif (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=grandpa+simpson+gif&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=PYrqUGcDGs2rFM&tbnid=VXZtXIiIi-06TM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwithleather.uproxx.com%2F2013%2F0 4%2Fvictor-martinez-pulls-a-grandpa-simpson&ei=FxSNUZS0MpTA9gS2zIGgDg&bvm=bv.46340616,d.dmg&psig=AFQjCNGoNHwimnSTqbZjYcAydfNZqUzbLg&ust=1368286613971178)

peacepipe
05-31-2013, 09:37 PM
You're just a douche to laugh at that weak sauce this other douche from KC posted....

You want to criticize Tebow for his lack of throwing prowess, or reading defense I'm right there with you.....but to trash his faith in God is just plain ignorant.

I could give a **** less about his faith in god, I simply found his post to be funny. Get over yourself.

jerseyboiler120
06-01-2013, 12:39 PM
I could give a **** less about his faith in god, I simply found his post to be funny. Get over yourself.

Then why didn't you specify that in your post????

Bob's your Information Minister
06-01-2013, 02:23 PM
and you still think the Chiefs are a decent team.....advantage Tebow.

Nah. 6-10 or 7-9 this year.

Also I am not a virgin and Tebow is...go me!

Bob's your Information Minister
06-01-2013, 02:24 PM
What does his being a Christian have to do with his alleged lack of intelligence?.

Well, most devout Christians and jesus freaks like Tebow aren't too smart.

Watch any interview with him...his head is in the clouds...he's kind of a dumb blonde.

Drunken.Broncoholic
06-01-2013, 03:00 PM
Well, most devout Christians and jesus freaks like Tebow aren't too smart.

Watch any interview with him...his head is in the clouds...he's kind of a dumb blonde.

Really?


Someone who follows one of the ****iest teams in the NFL should not be criticizing someone else's intelligence let alone an entire group of people.

oubronco
06-01-2013, 03:19 PM
http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/grandpa-simpson-gif.gif (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=grandpa+simpson+gif&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=PYrqUGcDGs2rFM&tbnid=VXZtXIiIi-06TM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwithleather.uproxx.com%2F2013%2F0 4%2Fvictor-martinez-pulls-a-grandpa-simpson&ei=FxSNUZS0MpTA9gS2zIGgDg&bvm=bv.46340616,d.dmg&psig=AFQjCNGoNHwimnSTqbZjYcAydfNZqUzbLg&ust=1368286613971178)

Bob's your Information Minister
06-01-2013, 05:02 PM
Really?

Someone who follows one of the ****iest teams in the NFL should not be criticizing someone else's intelligence let alone an entire group of people.

I'm intelligent enough that I've never bought season tickets...how about that?

FYI team choice has nothing to do with intelligence...it's almost genetic for some people...you're born into it or become a fan when you're a kid for some reason and it just sticks.

But Tebow is pretty much an airhead who sucks at football and believes in a man in the sky.

errand
06-01-2013, 05:03 PM
Nah. 6-10 or 7-9 this year.

Also I am not a virgin and Tebow is...go me!

just because you get ****ed in the ass at truck stops doesn't make you better than Tim Tebow....

Bob's your Information Minister
06-01-2013, 05:06 PM
just because you get ****ed in the ass at truck stops doesn't make you better than Tim Tebow....

That's why Tim Tebow is such a piece of ****...he probably thinks he's too good to eat at a truck stop.

Kaylore
06-01-2013, 05:19 PM
That's why Tim Tebow is such a piece of ****...he probably thinks he's too good to eat at a truck stop.

LOL

broncocalijohn
06-03-2013, 02:01 PM
Very sad reality.
http://tracking.si.com/2013/05/31/members-tim-tebow-camp-think-nfl-days-are-over/?sct=obnetwork

I expect many from Tebow's tribe to be in a Japan forest very soon.

broncosteven
06-03-2013, 04:11 PM
just because you get ****ed in the ass at truck stops doesn't make you better than Tim Tebow....

Maybe not as a person but Boob is probably the better QB of the 2.

oubronco
06-03-2013, 04:35 PM
http://cdn.wl.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/grandpa-simpson-gif.gif (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=grandpa+simpson+gif&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=PYrqUGcDGs2rFM&tbnid=VXZtXIiIi-06TM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwithleather.uproxx.com%2F2013%2F0 4%2Fvictor-martinez-pulls-a-grandpa-simpson&ei=FxSNUZS0MpTA9gS2zIGgDg&bvm=bv.46340616,d.dmg&psig=AFQjCNGoNHwimnSTqbZjYcAydfNZqUzbLg&ust=1368286613971178)

bronco militia
06-05-2013, 10:21 AM
http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/peyteeb-600x374.png

bronco militia
11-20-2013, 02:24 PM
Ex-NFL ref: ‘Uncatchable’ should only be factor in ‘Tim Tebow-type’ passes
Former NFL official Jim Daopoulos throws shade at free agent quarterback.

in an interview with USA TODAY Sports’ Tom Pelissero, former NFL official Jim Daopoulos spoke about the controversial call at the end of last night’s Patriots-Panthers game.

When asked if back judge Terrence Miles was correct in picking up the flag that was initially thrown for pass interference, Daopoulos was candid in his response.

From the article (emphasis ours):

…Daopoulos said Miles should have stood by his initial call rather than being talked into picking up the flag, especially if the pass being uncatchable factored into the conversation.

“We as officials have always been taught, for a ball to be uncatchable, it has to be clearly out of the field of play or it has to be a kind of — I probably shouldn’t say this — a Tim Tebow-type pass that lands 15 yards in front of you,” Daopoulus said.

Oh. Oh no.

http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/678837.gif

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/11/19/nfl-officials-feel-heat-after-controversial-calls-49ers-saints-patriots-panthers/3646043/

ouch! Ha!

oubronco
11-20-2013, 02:47 PM
Hilarious!

randerson1184
11-20-2013, 03:06 PM
Well, if it looks like a canary and sounds like a canary.....

Drunk Monkey
11-20-2013, 03:56 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/BunnyWurb/giffy%204/1582112_o_zps9af33a65.gif

TonyR
11-20-2013, 04:10 PM
“We as officials have always been taught, for a ball to be uncatchable, it has to be clearly out of the field of play or it has to be a kind of — I probably shouldn’t say this — a Tim Tebow-type pass that lands 15 yards in front of you,” Daopoulus said.
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LOL Better than Cam Newton, though...

Drunken.Broncoholic2
11-20-2013, 04:37 PM
LOL Better than Cam Newton, though...

Justifying Tebows suck with Cam Newtons ability. That was priceless.

TonyR
11-20-2013, 04:48 PM
^ DB, I must not have been clear with my sarcasm! This is a shout out to the locomotive of retardation that barreled through this thread:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=103360

Jekyll15Hyde
11-20-2013, 05:05 PM
I need some Beavis in this thread....

Drunken.Broncoholic2
11-20-2013, 05:32 PM
^ DB, I must not have been clear with my sarcasm! This is a shout out to the locomotive of retardation that barreled through this thread:

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=103360

No I knew exactly what it was. Lol. I should've worded better as I was reinforcing your post and referring to the idiots that are in the link you just posted. Dedhed dropped some major stupidity in that thread. Talk about blinded

BroncoBeavis
11-20-2013, 07:11 PM
I need some Beavis in this thread....

All that does is invite the Errornd

errand
11-20-2013, 07:33 PM
No I knew exactly what it was. Lol. I should've worded better as I was reinforcing your post and referring to the idiots that are in the link you just posted. Dedhed dropped some major stupidity in that thread. Talk about blinded

Beavis was right LOL

Yes...a plethora of stupidity was spouted in that thread....Beavis, Dedhed and this gem from everyone's favorite azzhole -

TheReverend - "On the contrary, I've been listing the reasons for why he will succeed and be an innovative option at QB and potentially revolutionize the game since his ****ing draft day."

Credibility - 0

rmsanger
11-20-2013, 07:46 PM
please for the love of god, let this thread die...

errand
11-20-2013, 07:50 PM
Elway has said that he's looking for "the big athlete who can throw the ball from the pocket."


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHjcyAwSlK2_WD9ivLfiOsk3LI3D7_P j4oY1WltYNMU2DLtWv3

Drunken.Broncoholic2
11-20-2013, 08:13 PM
please for the love of god, let this thread die...

It's like Boris the Bullet Dodger. Can't die Won't die.

http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/113222/boristheblade.jpg

bronco militia
11-20-2013, 08:18 PM
muhahahahah!

errand
11-20-2013, 08:19 PM
WTF is it with Tebow fans and their billboards?

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTDPLtepXxffIKqft7Hb3aUI3GPaAY_-I1dUch9nQ9-COYiM40y

CHEF LUIGI
11-20-2013, 08:36 PM
there are 100 players employed by NFL teams as QBs
the reason they have jobs and TT does not is because they have legitimate "I can throw a football" QB skills.
something TT does not have !
TT is a fullback who has been masquerading as a QB.
His big fat stoopid ego is what is preventing him from being in the NFL.
or jesus just doesnt want him to play football because jesus has denied him that chance.
I am of course refering to jesus alvarez, not that other jesus.

broncosteven
11-20-2013, 08:43 PM
I wonder if mCgruder is pouncing from one internet message board to another like a rudderless ship hoping to come across a tinfoil cap discussion of Timmy or to talk about Aliens.

McDman
11-20-2013, 09:59 PM
I wonder if mCgruder is pouncing from one internet message board to another like a rudderless ship hoping to come across a tinfoil cap discussion of Timmy or to talk about Aliens.

I'm pretty sure him and his cult drank the kool-aid when Tebow was cut.

TheReverend
11-20-2013, 10:03 PM
Beavis was right LOL

Yes...a plethora of stupidity was spouted in that thread....Beavis, Dedhed and this gem from everyone's favorite azzhole -

TheReverend - "On the contrary, I've been listing the reasons for why he will succeed and be an innovative option at QB and potentially revolutionize the game since his ****ing draft day."

Credibility - 0

Yeah, the read-option really died out in the pro-game with him...

Oh wait.

errand
11-21-2013, 06:45 PM
Yeah, the read-option really died out in the pro-game with him...

Oh wait.

LOL

Yeah, just like your stupid take that Bill Belichick popularized the TE position as a receiving weapon, when there have been many instances of TE's who became big popular stars in the NFL over the course of decades prior to Hernandez and Gronkowski ever showing up in NE, like Ditka, Casper, Sharpe, Christensen, Newsome, Winslow, Gonzalez etc....

The option has been around for decades, and was used many times in the NFL prior to Tim Tebow arriving onto the scene....I'm not gonna even bring up the fact that our very own Norris Weese ran a few option plays whenever he played QB for us, or that our very own John Fox used an option offense using DeAngelo Williams basically setting up in a shallow shotgun formation and running in the Carolina Panthers final two games of 2006, hence the name "wildcat"....

Instead I'll just bring up the most recent examples of it being used more than once or twice a game prior to 2011.

[] 2004 Michael Vick ran it when he had Warrick Dunn and TJ Duckett on the Falcons who went 11-5 and ranked #1 in rushing yards losing the NFC title game...they also used it in 2006 and again led the NFL in rushing yards per game

[] 2008 the Miami Dolphins used the "wildcat" option and went 11-5, after going 1-15 the season prior.

[] 2009 the Titans Vince Young ran the option, and it helped Chris Johnson rush for over 2000 yards and they ranked 2nd in rushing yards

See the problem is you seem to forget that those of us who have been around a lot longer than you have witnessed things that you think are new or revolutionizing when all they are is a new twist to an old trick.

TheReverend
11-21-2013, 06:48 PM
LOL

Yeah, just like your stupid take that Bill Belichick popularized the TE position as a receiving weapon.

...and stopped reading.

That sho wasn't me. Nice try though.

Archer81
11-21-2013, 06:55 PM
The thread that never ends...it just goes on and on my friends...


:Broncos:

errand
11-21-2013, 06:55 PM
...and stopped reading.

That sho wasn't me. Nice try though.

LOL

KCStud said that Bill Belichick popularized the TE position and you defended his take, which basically means you agreed with it

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3859955&postcount=131

errand
11-21-2013, 06:58 PM
The thread that never ends...it just goes on and on my friends...


:Broncos:

Well just like Seinfeld and Big Bang Theory, great comedies never get too old :wave:

wolf754life
11-21-2013, 07:05 PM
garbage pail thread about a QB with garbage pail ability

nice guy though

mennonite
11-21-2013, 07:12 PM
For Christ's sake. Once during the war I visited a prostitute, and my life has been a living hell ever since.

TheReverend
11-21-2013, 07:15 PM
LOL

KCStud said that Bill Belichick popularized the TE position and you defended his take, which basically means you agreed with it

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpost.php?p=3859955&postcount=131

lol, I'd say I'm surprised you've stooped to "guilt by association" but we all know you go much, much lower than that.

Pray tell, which part of this post do you disagree with?

I'd honestly assume that wasn't a serious post if I didn't know you were dumber than a flaming bag of ****.

Yes some of those greats made the TE position more popular, but just because other people have also made the position more popular certainly doesn't mean someone didn't make it even more popular. These things are not mutually exclusive.

In 2011 when moderately healthy, they produced over 2,200 yards from the TE position.

To put that in perspective (and piggy backing off your citing Tony Gonzalez as an example), the Falcons produced less than 1,000. In fact, the Patriots #2 TE outproduced Tony, ceteris paribus.

Summary because you can barely read:

I'm saying he DIDN'T make the position popular, but he did make it MORE popular

24champ
11-21-2013, 07:21 PM
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k160/BunnyWurb/giffy%204/1582112_o_zps9af33a65.gif

A low down dirty shame rep.

bronco militia
06-03-2014, 11:08 AM
bump

oubronco
06-03-2014, 11:34 AM
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TheReverend
06-03-2014, 11:37 AM
Loves me some Timmy T.